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Good
morning,
all,
and
welcome
to the
Mondi
2021
Results
Presentation.
I'm
Andrew
King,
your
Group
CEO;
and
I'm
joined
by
Mike
Powell,
our
Group
CFO.
I'll
be
providing
you
some
highlights
for
the
year
before
passing
on
to
Mike
for an
overview
of
both
the
financial
and
operating
performance.
I'll
then
be
coming
back
to
update
you
on
both
our
strategic
positioning,
and
more
importantly,
some
of
the
exciting
growth
opportunities
we
do
see
for
the
business
going
forward.
After
that,
Mike
and
I
will
obviously
be
delighted
to
take
your
questions.
However,
before
we
go
into
the
review
of
the
prior
year,
I
would
like
to
share
some
thoughts
on
what
is
obviously
a
fast
escalating
situation
in
the
Ukraine.
The
events
unfolding
in
the Ukraine
are
tragic,
and
the
impact
extends
well
beyond
national
borders.
Our
thoughts
are
obviously
with
those
directly
affected
and
we
are
actively
doing
what
we
can
for
our
much
valued
colleagues
at
our
paper
bag
plant
in
Lviv
in
Western
Ukraine,
where
production
is
currently
suspended,
as
well
as
our
regional
sales
team
located
in
the
capital
Kyiv.
We
also
have
a
number
of
Ukrainian
nationals
working
in
our
plants
in
bordering
European
countries.
So
this
humanitarian
crisis
is
obviously
deeply
personal
for
many
Mondi
employees.
We
are
contributing
to
the
humanitarian
effort,
both
at
the
group
level
with
financial
assistance
to
the
World
Food
Program
where
we
have
an
existing
relationships
and
also
through
many
local
initiatives.
While
we
may
all
wish
for
peace
and
stability,
attempting
to
predict
the
medium
to
long-term
impact
on
both
our
business
and
the
situation
more
broadly
remains
extremely
volatile
and
is,
of
course,
complete
guesswork.
I
remind
you
that
we
have
four
operations
in
Russia
that
represent
around
12%
of
the
group's
revenue
by
location
of
production
and
have
on
average
contributed
around
20%
to
group
EBITDA
over
the
last
three
years.
This
includes
a
high
margin
cost
competitive,
integrated
paper
mill
in
Syktyvkar
in
the
Komi
Republic
and
three
packaging
converting
businesses.
All
are currently
operational.
At
present,
we
do
continue
to
operate
in
all
of
these
locations
where
it
is
both
safe
and
clearly
within
the
law
to
do
so.
We're
actively
assessing
the
implications
on
our
business
of
the
Russian
sanctions
and
of
course
the
related
international
responses.
But
as
I've
already
said,
and
I'm
sure
you'll
appreciate,
this
is
a
fast
moving
and
very
fluid
complex
situation.
I
know
that
you will
have
many
questions,
but
there's
not
much
more
we
can
say
today.
We'll
of
course
update
the
market
as
required
as
developments
unfold.
If
I
then
look
back
at
2021,
I
think
it
can
be
summarized
as
a
year
of
strong
delivery,
accelerating
growth
and
ongoing
progress
on
our
sustainability
journey.
Our
integrated
position,
the
agility
of
our
people,
and
the
proactive
collaboration
across
the
supply
chain
ensured
we
were
able
to
deliver
strongly
for
all
our customers.
We
achieved
good
volume
growth
across
all
key
segments
of
our
business.
I'm
obviously
particularly
pleased
with
the
strong
gains
we
continue
to
make
in
our
growing
packaging
segments,
and
also,
the
recovery
in
volumes
we've
seen
in
uncoated
fine
paper
business,
aided
by
solid
market
share
gains.
We
saw
meaningful
price
momentum
across
the
group,
driven
by
significantly
improve
supply
demand
fundamentals
and
positive
mix
effects.
Importantly,
as
we'll
cover
in
more
detail
later
in
the
presentation,
we
were
able
to
fully
compensate
for
the
significant
cost
inflation
that
we
just
see
and
has
really
become
a
feature
of
the
operating
environment.
We
also
continue
to
invest
for
the
future.
A
highlight
of
the
year
was
the
successful
delivery
on
a
number
of
our
key
CapEx
projects,
bringing
increased
capacity
in
strongly
growing
markets,
cost
improvements,
and
of
course
also
sustainability
benefits.
Importantly,
and
this
is
a
feature
what we
will
discuss
a
bit
later,
the
growing
markets
we
serve
and
the
unique
positioning
we
have
within
these
markets
provides
opportunity
for
further
growth.
Supported
by
our
ambitious
CapEx
programs,
we
have
currently
a
pipeline
of
expansionary
projects
already
approved
or
under
advanced
evaluation
amounting
to
about
€1
billion.
As
I
say,
I'll
come
on
to
provide
more
detail
on
this
later.
We
are
confident
that
the
cash
generation
of
the
business
could
support
both
this
investment
program
and
also
supporting
returns
to
shareholders
with
the
annual
dividend
up
8%.
Sustainability
clearly
remains
center
to
our
strategy.
We
have
a
great track
record
on
this
regard
and
are
rightly
recognized
as
a
leader
in
the
field.
But
clearly,
there's
much
more
to
be
done.
And
here,
we
made
great
progress
in
embedding
our
MAP2030
program,
the
action
plan
for
the
next
decade.
Very
excitingly,
of
course,
around
the
sustainability
agenda,
as
we've
identified
significant
opportunities
to
develop
our
unique
portfolio
of
sustainable
packaging
solutions,
I'll
come
back
to
some
of
the
recent
examples
of
innovation
in
the
space
later
again
in
the
presentation.
We
really
do
see
great
opportunity
to
continue
growing
in
this
area
and
are
supporting
it
with
meaningful
investment.
I'll now
hand
over to
Mike
to
take
us
through
both
the
financial
and
operating
highlights
before
coming
back
to
talk
to
you about
the
strategy.
Thanks,
Andrew.
Morning,
everybody.
Let
me
take
you
through
the
numbers
for
the
year
ended
31st
of
December
2021.
I'll
start
with
the
group
and
then
I'll
dive
into
the
business
units.
We
delivered
a
strong
financial
performance
in
2021.
All
key
metrics
were
up
year-on-year.
EBITDA
of
just
over
€1.5
billion
was
up
€150
million
against
2020
with
the
second
half
up
around
30%.
All
of
this
gives
the
board
confidence
to
propose
a
final
dividend
of
up
10%.
I'll
take
you
through
the
key
components
of
2021's
EBITDA
growth,
which
you
can
see
is
mainly
driven
by
higher
selling
prices,
outpacing
costs
alongside
some
good
volume
increases.
We
drove
volume
growth
in
corrugated
packaging
and
flexible
packaging
on
the
back
of
our
portfolio
of
innovative
and
sustainable
packaging
solutions.
Our
attention
to
quality
and
service
for
our
customers
and
the
reliability
of
our
integrated
value
chain
continues
to
win
through.
Uncoated
fine
paper
volumes
also
increased
with
our
customers
recognizing
the
stability
of
a
long-term
supplier
and
the
sustained
quality
of
our
products
alongside
consistent
service
as
others
exit
this
market.
Selling
prices
were
up
across
the
entire
business,
most
significantly
in
corrugated
packaging.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
selling
prices
in
more
detail
as
I
come
to
the
business
units.
However,
let
me
deal
with
costs
generically
on
this
slide
as
it's
pretty
widespread
and
saves
me
repeating
it
4
times
in
each
business
unit.
We
saw
large
cost
increases,
in
particular,
energy,
resins,
paper
for
recycling,
and
transport
costs.
On
energy,
our
pulp
and
paper
mills
generate
most
of
their
energy
needs
internally
from
biomass,
accounting
for
around
65%
of
all
fuel
sources.
This
mitigates
the
impact
of
significant
surge
in
external
fuel
costs.
Energy
costs
gradually
increased
during
the
first
half
from
the
very
low
levels
in
2020
before
rising
sharply
at
the
end
of
Q3
as
a
result
of
the
significant
European
gas
and
electricity
price
increases.
The
year-on-year
increase
in
energy
was
about
€160
million.
Resin
and
paper
for
recycling
costs
increased
sharply
in
the
first
half
and
have remained
stable
at
those
high
levels.
The
year-on-year
increases
were
around
€160
million
and
€120
million
respectively.
We're
currently
seeing
cost
pressures
continuing
to
rise,
particularly
wood,
chemicals,
and
of
course
energy
costs.
That
said,
we
do
expect
to
be
able
to
pass
these
into
the
markets.
The
rest of
the
cost
base
was
well
managed,
though
that
was
subject
to
higher
maintenance
costs
due
to
the
longer
plant
shuts,
additional
resources
to
service
the
extra
demand
for
our
products,
and
general
inflation
applying
to
most
of
the
costs.
Currency
movements
had
a
net
negative
impact,
mainly
already
reported
in
the
first
half of
the
year
as
a
result
of
the
weaker
US
dollar,
coupled
with
losses
on
translation
from
a
weaker
Russian
ruble
and
Turkish
lira
relative
to
the
euro.
Turning
to
the
strong
cash
characteristics
of
the
business
now. On
the
left-hand
side,
you
see
last
year's
closing
net
debt
followed
in
green
by
the
EBITDA
of
€1.5
billion
that
we
delivered
in
FY
2021.
Working
capital
increased
on
the
back
of
strong
revenue
growth
in
the
year
and
some
inflow
timing
of
Q4
in
the
prior
year.
Absolute
working
capital
as
a
percentage
of
revenue
was
12.8%
in
line
with
our
expected
range
and
guidance
of 12%
to
14%.
We
have
leading
market
positions
in
good
markets
and
we
continue
to
consistently
invest
behind
that
potential
to
deliver
value
accretive
growth.
Our
capital
expenditure
for
the
period
was
€573
million.
That
equates
to about
140%
of
depreciation.
And
as
you
know,
we
completed
the
acquisition
of
Olmuksan,
which
is
delivering
well.
With
net
debt
of
€1,673
million,
that
leaves
us
1.2
times
levered
at
the
end
of
the
year
with
good
strength
for
us
to
continue
to
have
optionality
and
Andrew
will
cover
some
of
that
later
in
the
presentation.
In
June
2021,
we
entered
into
a
€750
million
revolving
credit
facility.
This
is
a
sustainability-linked
loan,
matching
funding
strategy
with
the
core
business
strategy.
And
at
the
end
of the
year,
the
group
had
a
strong
liquidity
position
of
around
€1.3
billion.
Credit
ratings
remain
unchanged
and
debt
maturities
in
good
shape
with
nothing
material
due
in
the
short-term.
So,
to
wrap
up
the
group
part,
good
numbers,
continued
opportunities,
and
a
strong
financial
position.
After
the
year
in
mid-February,
we
agreed
to
sell
our personal
care
components
business
to
Nitto
Denko
for
an enterprise
value
of €615
million.
This
simplifies
our
portfolio
and
enables
us
to
focus
on
core
packaging
and
paper
businesses
and
pursue
our
strategic
priority
to
grow
in
sustainable
packaging.
We
expect
completion
of
this
in
the
second
half
of
2022.
A
decision
regarding
the
use
of
the
net
cash
proceeds
from
the
sale
of
PCC
will
be
taken
upon
completion.
The
remaining
portion
of
engineered
materials,
functional
paper
and
films
will
be
merged
into
our
flexible
packaging
business
unit,
and
this
will
strengthen
integration
along
the
kraft
paper
value
chain,
fostering
innovation
in
functional
papers.
I
just
wanted
to
also
take
this
opportunity
to
remind
you
about
our
disciplined
approach
to
capital
allocation.
This
remains
unchanged.
Organically,
we're
focused
on
our
growing
in
packaging
through
selective
capital
investment
opportunities.
Our
track
record
of
execution
here
speaks
for
itself.
We
have
a
strong
pipeline
of
capital
investment
projects
to
further
capture
that
growth.
Again,
Andrew
will
cover
those
later.
Supporting
payments
of
dividends
to
shareholders
remains
important
to
us,
and
we're
pleased
to
recommend
an
increase
in
the
final
dividend,
up
10%.
And
we
continue
to
evaluate
growth
opportunities
through
selective
M&A.
So,
to
summarize,
we
can
invest
organically, deliver
dividends,
and
seize
appropriate
opportunities
in
M&A,
as
well
as
repatriate
cash
if
surplus.
All
these decisions
on
free
cash
flow
are
made
within
the
core
premise
of
maintaining
our
strong
and
stable
financial
position
and
solid
investment-grade
credit
metrics.
And
you've
seen
we've
got
a
strong
balance
sheet.
So,
let
me
dive
quickly
a
little
deeper
business
by
business.
Starting
with
corrugated
packaging.
This
business
continues
to
deliver
industry-leading
margins
and
returns.
Sales
volumes
were
up
in
the
year
and
selling
prices
were
significantly
higher
with
the
effect
coming
through
strongly
in
the
second
half.
Our
capital
investment
program
and
acquisitions
completed
in
the
year
further
contributed
to
corrugated
packaging's
performance.
Whilst
2020
was
very
much
a
story
of
e-commerce
demand,
in
2021,
we
saw
strong
demand
across
all
end
uses,
particularly
e-commerce
and
FMCG.
Pleasingly,
containerboard
sales
volumes
were
up
on
the
prior
year,
supported
by
our
broad,
high-quality
product
portfolio.
Corrugated
solution
volumes
grew
13%
organically.
This
was
made
possible
by
our
backward
integration
to
paper
at
the
time
of
paper
shortages,
ongoing
investments
in
our
converting
network,
and
our
sharp
focus
on
innovative
products
and
services
of
the
highest
quality.
We
implemented
price
increases
across
all
containerboard
grades,
leading
to
higher
average
selling
prices
year-on-year,
and
we
were
successful
in
passing
on
higher
input
costs
through
to
box
prices.
Now,
turning
to
flexible
packaging.
The
business
achieved
good
volume
growth,
successfully
implemented
price
increases
to
recover
significantly
higher
input
cost
prices.
We
saw
strong
volume
growth
in
end
uses,
in
particular
paper-based
shopping and
e-commerce
bags,
as
well
as
consumer
applications
such
as
food
and
pet
food,
where
we
have
leading
market
positions.
There
was
also
good
demand
from
building
materials
and
the
construction
sector
during
the
period.
Kraft
paper
sales
volumes
were
significantly
up
on
the
prior,
notably
in
our
range
of
specialty
kraft
papers
where
sales
volumes
have
almost
doubled
over
the
last
three
years,
benefiting
from
increasing
customer
demand
for
paper-based
sustainable
packaging.
Paper
bags
sales
volumes
were
up
9%,
growth
across
all
regions
supported
by
growing
demand
in
new
applications.
For
example,
our
recyclable,
lightweight,
and
flexible
MailerBAG
for
e-commerce
now
accounts
for
3%
of
our
total
paper
bags
volumes.
Prices
in
the
kraft
paper
value
chain
were
modestly
up
year-on-year.
On
the
back
of
continued
strong
order
books
and
tight
market
conditions,
we
have
implemented
price
increases
across
our
range
of
kraft
papers
and
paper
bags
at
the
start
of
2022
that
reflects
prevailing
spot
prices.
Prices
today
are
some
20%
to
25%
higher
than
the
average
for
that
of
2021.
Engineered
materials,
just
to
remind
you,
this
is
less
than
5%
of
the
group's
revenues.
Its
performance
stabilized
in
2021.
We
saw
good
recovery
in
industrial
and
specialized
end
uses
in
functional
paper
and
films
and
we
completed
the
restructuring
work
in
personal
care
components
that
we
initiated
at
the
end
of
2020.
This
business
also
implemented
significant
price
increases.
Uncoated
fine
papers
underlying
trading
performance
improved
significantly
over
the
course
of
the
year,
higher
volumes
and
prices
offsetting
input
costs
particularly
energy
and
transport.
EBITDA
comparability
with
2020
is
impacted
by
a
€34
million
lower
forestry
fair
value
movement
in
the
year
and
the
impact
of
longer
planned
maintenance
shuts
in
2021
with
a
€30 million
effect.
If
you
add
those
numbers
together,
the
€64
million
effect
was
mainly
a
second
half
effect,
and
therefore,
you
can
see
clearly
from
the
chart
the
underlying
progress
that
was
made
in
this
business.
Our
sales
volumes
grew
11%
in
the
period.
Customers
do
value
us
as
a
supplier
of
choice,
whilst
capacity
leaves
the
market
due
to
our
excellent
customer
service,
superior
cost
competitiveness,
and
our
financial
stability.
We've
increased
our
market
share
in
all
the key
markets
where
we
operate.
In
Europe,
we
estimate
market
demand
to increase
6%
to
7%
in
the
year,
showing
a
good
recovery,
whilst
all
sales
volumes
in
this
region
grew
some
14%.
On
the
back
of
improving
demand
and
increasing
costs,
we
implemented
a
series
of
price
increases,
most
notably
in
the
second
half of
the
year
and
also
earlier
in
this
current
year.
European
benchmark
prices
today
are
20%
to
22%
higher
than
the
2021
average.
So
let
me
summarize.
We're
really
pleased
with
our
strong
financial
performance.
Our
results
have
been
driven
by
growing
volumes,
implementing
price
increases,
which
more
than
offset
higher
costs.
We
have
successfully
executed
strategic
investments
and
the
agreed
PCC
disposal
gives
us
further
focus.
The
group
has
a
robust
balance
sheet,
providing
strategic
flexibility
to
invest
and
grow
in
our
expanding
packaging
markets
where
we
have
leadership
positions.
With
that,
let
me
hand
you
back
to
Andrew
and
he'll
talk
about
the
longer-term
strategic
view.
Thank
you.
Thanks
very
much,
Mike.
As
I
said
earlier,
I would
like
to
come
back
now
to
the
strategic
positioning
of
the
group
and
most
importantly
the
growth
opportunities
we
see
for
the
business
going
forward.
I'll
remind
you
of
our
track
record,
how
we
see
the
markets
developing
going
forward,
and
why
we
have
the
ability
to
keep
winning
in
these
markets,
and
in
turn,
how
that
supports
our
accelerated
investment
program.
If
I
step
back
first,
I
remind
you
of
the
credentials
we
have
for
profitable
long-term
value
accretive
growth.
I
think
you
can
see
from
this
slide,
we
have
a
great
track
record
of
delivery.
Over
the
past
decade,
we
have
successfully
grown
the
business
on
all
key
profit
metrics,
while
at
the
same
time
driving
improved
returns
on
capital.
We
have
done
this
by
systematically
investing
in
our
cost-advantaged
assets
and
seizing
acquisition
opportunities
at
the
right
value,
balancing
investment
for
growth
with
supporting
returns
to
our
shareholders.
This
has
of
course
been
facilitated
by
the very
strong
cash
generation
of
the
business,
allowing
us
to
grow
without
recourse
to
external
funds.
As
a
consequence
of
this
disciplined
capital
allocation,
coupled
with
our
relentless
– our
rigorous
and
relentless –
apologies,
didn't
change.
As
a
consequence
of
this
disciplined
capital
allocation,
coupled
with
our
rigorous
and
relentless
focus
on
driving
operational
performance,
we
have
built
an
industry-leading
integrated
cost-advantaged
platform.
Importantly
also,
our
early
embrace
of
sustainability
has
guided
and
focused
our
product development
and
operations
over
many
years.
This
has
ensured
that
as
demand
for
sustainable
solutions
has
increased,
our
ability
to
anticipate
and
respond
to
customers
and
the
end
user
needs
has
kept
us
ahead
of
the
game.
Our
leadership
in
sustainability,
I
think,
is
widely
recognized
and
valued
by
our
customers.
Here,
you
can
see
I
highlight
a
selection
of
external
benchmarks.
I
believe
I
can
safely
say
that
no
other
group
in
our
sector
ranks
consistently
so
highly
across
all
of
these
well-regarded
rating
systems.
And
of
course,
as
mentioned
earlier,
we
are
far
from
done
on
our
sustainability
journey.
We
are
taking
the
necessary
action
for
the
future,
guided
by
our
Mondi
Action
Plan
2030,
which
is
now
very
much
embedded
in
the
business.
More
recently,
you
would
have
seen
this
includes
a
commitment
to
net
zero
by
2050
with
science-based
targets
to
limit
global
warming
below
the
1.5-degree
threshold.
Clearly,
the
urgency
around
climate
change
has
not
diminished
as
a
consequence
of
the
recent
crisis
in
Ukraine.
Our
leading
market
positions
that
focus
on
sustainability,
the
cost-advantaged
assets
that
we
enjoy,
and
of
course
our
culture
of
continuous
improvement
have
allowed
us
to
consistently
deliver
strong
growth
in
our
key
packaging
segments
as
illustrated
on
this
slide.
You'll
see
that
this
growth
has
accelerated
in
the
past
year,
driven
in
large
part
by
the
rapid
increase
in
demand
for
new
sustainable
packaging
solutions.
At the
same
time,
as
Mike
already
talked
to
you
about,
the
demand
for
the
more
traditional
products
has
also
recovered
following
the
slowdown
during
the
height
of
the
COVID
pandemic.
The
security
of
supply
we
can
offer
given
our
wide
production
footprints
and
our
vertical
integration,
coupled
with
our
focus
on
innovation,
service,
and
quality,
has
driven
growth
ahead
of
the
markets
in
all
key
segments.
And
very
importantly,
the
packaging
markets
we
serve
do
continue
to
grow.
While
estimates
obviously
vary
significantly,
we
do
expect
to
see
good,
strong
structural
growth
in
our
two
core
packaging
markets
of
corrugated
and
flexibles,
underpinned
by
those
key
growth
drivers
of
sustainability
and
e-commerce.
Going
to
those
briefly
looking
at
the
e-commerce
led
growth,
we
do
see
the
rate
of
growth
in
demand
for
e-commerce
packaging
slowing
relative
to
the
very
high
levels
seen
in
the
last
few
years,
mainly
as
COVID
restrictions
are
lifted
and
consumers
are
tending
to
spend
more
money
on
services.
However,
we
still
expect
to
see
a
clear
positive
trend
and
absolute
demand
growth
will
still
be
material,
particularly
now
that
e-commerce
is
working
off
a
much
higher
base.
On
sustainability,
it
is
very
clear
that
the
trend
for
more
sustainable
packaging
is
here
to
stay.
All
key
stakeholders
from
end
customers
through
our
FMCG and
other
customers
to
NGOs
and
regulators
are
demanding
change.
We
are
seeing
a
clear
acceleration
of
this
trend
and
are
very
well
placed
to
capitalize
on
it
with
our
unique
platform,
offering
paper
where
possible
and
plastic
where
useful.
I'll
come
back
again
to
some
of
the
latest
innovation
we're
seeing
in
this
area
in
the
presentation.
Supporting
all
of
this,
we
have
an
ambitious
expansionary
capital
investment
program.
We
have
a
pipeline
of
projects
already
approved
or
under
advanced
evaluation
amounting
to
around
€1
billion,
which
we
expect
will
deliver
mid-teen
returns
when
in
full
operation.
On
the
slide,
you'll
see
we
detail
a
number
of
these
key
projects.
Very
compelling
to
me
is
that
the
investments
are
spread
across
our
range
of
packaging
businesses
both
in
terms
of
product
and
geography
and
upstream
and
downstream,
meaning
we
are
not
placing
undue
reliance
on
any
single
market
or
asset.
In
round
terms,
we're investing
around
50%
in
each
of
corrugated
and
flexibles,
while
the
upstream/downstream
split
is
around
60/40.
In
corrugated,
we are
building
on
our
containerboard
capacity
by
investing
in
brownfields
expansion
in
our
Kuopio
and
Świecie
mills,
while
we
have
underway
around
€185
million
in
expansionary
projects
across
our
network
of
corrugated
plants,
serving
the
fast-growing
markets
of
Central
and
Eastern
Europe
and
Turkey.
In
flexible
packaging,
we
are
currently
in
advanced
evaluation
of
a
new
200,000
tonne
per
annum
kraft
paper
machine
at
one
of
our
cost-advantaged
locations
to
serve
the
growing
kraft
paper
market.
Here,
we
have
a
clear
market
leadership
position
with
very
strong
vertical
integration
with
our
paper
bags
business.
Similarly,
many
of
the
new
applications
we are
seeing
for
paper-based
solutions
to
displace
other
forms
of
less
sustainable
packaging
solutions
are
using
kraft
paper
packaging
– paper
products
as
their
base.
Linked
to
this,
we
see
exciting
opportunities
to
grow
functional
papers
offering
to
meet
our
customers'
growing
demand
for
innovative
sustainable
packaging
with
the
necessary
barrier
properties,
again
using
kraft
paper
as
the
base.
In
our
flexibles
converting
businesses,
we
continue
to
expand
our
leading
global
paper
bag
network
while
also
investing
to
expand
our
capacity
and
cement
our
leading
position
in
the
fast-growing
European
pet
food
packaging
market.
With
this
pipeline
of
expansionary
projects,
coupled
with
our
ongoing
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staying
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business
needs,
we
would
expect
capital
expenditure
to
be
in
the
region
of
€700 million
to
€800
million
in
2022,
rising
to
€900
million
to
€1 billion
in
2023.
As
you
can
see,
this
represents
a
manageable
acceleration
of
our ongoing
capital
investment
program,
supporting
the
growth
opportunities
we
continue
to
see
in
our
packaging
businesses.
Coming
back
now
then
to
our
innovation
focus,
I
would
like
to
take
you
through
a
few
recent
examples
of
innovation
in
sustainable
packaging
and
our
three
Rs
principle
of
replace,
reduce,
or
recycle,
using
paper
where
possible
and
plastic
when
useful.
Here,
you'll
see
two
fantastic
examples
of
how
we
are
leveraging
our
unique
platform
and
our
capabilities
in
papermaking,
coating,
and
converting
to
replace
unnecessary
plastics
with
recyclable,
paper-based
packaging
for
Iceland
and
Les
Crudettes.
We
have
developed
these
solutions
to
run in
our
customers'
existing
packaging
lines,
avoiding,
as
a
consequence,
additional
costs.
As
important,
they
provide
the
same
shelf
life
preventing
food
waste,
which
is
also
critical
for
sustainable
societies
and
in
taking
action
against
climate
change.
We
continue
to
innovate
with
customers
to
develop
e-commerce
solutions
that
are easy
for
the
consumer
to
recycle
and
enable
our
consumers'
businesses
to
grow.
You'll
see
there
our
fantastically
named
BCoolBox
is
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
slide.
It has
specially
designed
internal
insulating
panels,
keeping
meals
refrigerated
for
over
24
years – hours.
That
would
be
extreme.
I'd
encourage
you
then to
try
to
time
foods
who has
ability
to
expand
deliveries
beyond
the
city
centers
with
standard
transport,
of
course,
now
without
the
need
for
expensive
refrigerated
trucks.
Our
customized
insert
for
the
ship
in
own
container
solution
on
the
right-hand
side,
as
you'll
on
the
slide,
eliminates
the
need
for
additional
packaging,
fits
through
a
letterbox
while
protecting
the
product,
and
it
is
Amazon-certified
frustration-free
packaging.
And
clearly,
if
our
paper-based
solutions
cannot
do
the
job,
we
believe
recyclable,
flexible
packaging
is
the
most
resource efficient
alternative
due
to
both
its
barrier
properties
and
high material
efficiency.
We
help
our
customers
reach
their
recyclability
targets
by
developing
mono-material
packaging
solutions
that
are
again
fit
for
a
circular
economy.
You'll
see
the
pouch
on
the
left
for
Henkel
uses
70%
less
plastic
than
a
rigid
bottle
and
can
be
a
refill
for
the
dispensing
container
at
home,
supporting
a
consumer
reuse
model.
On
the
right-hand
side
of
the
slide,
you
can
see
our
lightweight
high-barrier
solution
for
a
German
consumer
brand.
WalletPack
replaces
non-recyclable
multi-material
packaging,
while
reducing
plastic
by
40%.
It
is
easy
to
open
and
reclose,
and
again,
very
importantly
prevents
food
wastage.
Let
me
then finish
by
reminding
you
of
the
key
takeaways.
We
continue
to
deliver
strongly,
evidenced
by
that
strong
performance
in
2021
across
all
key
financial
and
sustainability
metrics.
The
strong
growth
we
see
in
our
markets,
coupled
with
our
proven
ability
to
win
in
these
markets,
opens
up
further
growth
opportunities
for
the
business.
And
we
are
putting
more
money
behind
it
with
our
accelerated
investment
program,
including
that
pipeline
of
€1 billion
in
projects
delivering
strong
growth
in
packaging,
which
is
sustainable
by
design.
While
we
are
fully
aware
of
the
recent
significantly
heightened
geopolitical
and
macroeconomic
risks,
we
have
the
capacity
to
both
manage
and
finance
this
investment
program,
and
we
are
convinced
it
is
the
right
thing
for
the
long-term
benefit
of
our
stakeholders.
So,
with
that,
I
thank
you
very
much
and
happy
to
turn
over
to
questions
that
Mike
will
facilitate.
So,
I
have
the
job
of
facilitating.
We're
back
live
in
the
room,
which
is
great.
It means
we
don't
have
a
camera
3
feet
in
front
of
our
noses,
a
little
bit
further
away.
We've
got
three
streams
just
we
have
people
on
the
phone,
we
have
the
textbox
on
the
webcast,
and
we
have
people
in
the
room.
So
I
will
try
to
navigate
between
those
three
audiences.
I'll
take
the
first
question
from
the
room
if
I
could.
It's Cole Hathorn
from
Jefferies.
Thanks
very
much
for
taking
the
question.
Andrew,
I'd
like
to
focus
on
the
longer-term
strategic
investments
first
of
all.
I
mean,
you
talked
about 2%
to
4%
packaging
growth.
If
I
went
back
to
2015
levels,
am
I
right
in
assuming
that
this
is
better
growth
into
the
future
than
in
the
past
due
to
the
structural
drivers
you
talked
about
and
particularly
flexible
packaging?
I'd
like
to
focus
on
that.
I
mean,
you
talk
about
a
potential
kraft
paper
machine,
and
then
on
the
converting
side,
how
would
you
frame
your
position
in
kind
of
sack and
kraft
paper
and
how
you're
winning
in
that
converting?
Because
I
think
you're
the
market
leader
with
kind
of
more
than
30%
capacity
on
sack
kraft
and
then
on
the
converting
side
as
well.
Is
this
investment
so
that
you
get
more
than
your
share
of
paper
growth
and
then
the
converting
side
more
than
your
fair
share
of
converting
growth
as
well?
Thank
you.
Yes.
Thanks
very
much,
Cole.
Yeah,
I
think
the
short
answer
is
yes.
We
do
see
an
acceleration
in
the
growth
in
these
markets,
particularly,
as
you
say,
in
the
flexibles
space.
I
think
historically,
particularly
in the
sack
kraft
business,
you
would
have
seen
this
was
a
very
low
growth
industry
with
the
tradition –
focused
around
traditional
industrial
applications,
cement,
building
materials,
and
the
like.
Clearly,
we've
seen
a
change
in
that
dynamic
over
the
last
few
years.
As
I
highlighted
in
the
presentation,
a
lot
of
the
kraft
paper
offering
goes
into
a
number
of
these
flexible
solutions,
which
are
increasingly
being
used
to
displace
less
sustainable
packaging
solutions.
We
cite
a
couple
of
examples
there,
but
there
are numerous
such
examples
from
the
StretchWrap
that's
replacing
a
plastic
alternative
to
obviously,
for
example,
things
like
the
MailerBAG
which
is
now
being
used
in
e-commerce
applications
so
displacing
plastic
wrap
in
e-commerce,
similarly
using
kraft
paper
directly
and
wrapping
e-commerce
solutions.
I
can
go
on
things
like
that,
salad
a
simple
example
like
that,
that
packaging
solution
for
salad
and
things
like
that
simply
didn't
exist
two
or
three
years
ago.
And
I
think
what's
important
here
is
one
can
often
talk
about
anecdotal
evidence
of
sort
of
innovation of
things.
These
are
really
making
a
big
difference
now.
We
highlight,
for
example,
the
MailerBAG
being
3%
of our
volume
now
in
paper
bags.
It
was
nothing
two
years
ago.
So
it
just
illustrates
that
is
starting
to
really
move
the
needle.
And
we
are
really
seeing
a
huge
number
of
different
applications
coming
for
those
speciality
kraft
paper
applications
as
we
see,
but
also
the
traditional
sack
kraft.
So
I
think
with
all
of
that
in
mind
applications,
we
are
looking
–
the
market is
extremely
tight.
I
believe
it
will
continue
to
be.
Obviously,
this
is
the
normal,
always
normal
ebbs
and
flows,
but
these
strong
structural
drivers
are
not
going
away.
So
yes,
we're
very
confident
when
referring
to
that
market
growth
of
2%
to
4.
I
mean,
we
think
that's
the
market.
We
still
think
we
can
do
more
than
our
fair
share
of
that.
How
do
we
do
that?
Certainly,
on
the
converting
businesses,
we
continue
to
invest
behind
the
growth
of
those
businesses.
As
you
would
have
seen,
we've
highlighted,
for
example,
our
new
plant
in
Colombia,
we're
doing
a
new
one
–
another
one
in
Morocco
as
well.
We're
investing
also
behind
increased
capacity
in
our
existing
facilities,
and
we
have
the
biggest
global
network
of
paper
bag
plants
of
anyone
by
some
distance.
So
I
think
that
in
itself
puts
us
in
a
very
strong
position.
But
again,
I
come
back
to
the
unique
platform
we
have.
And
again,
I
know
this
is
an
easy
statement
to
make,
but
I
think
it
is
demonstrably
the
case.
We
have
the
deep
knowledge
on
the
kraft
paper
making.
We are
the
biggest
producer
of
kraft
paper
grades
in
the
world.
We
have
deep
knowledge
in
what
we
call
the
coating
applications,
making
functional
barrier
properties
for
that
paper,
where
you
need
additional
functionality.
And
we
have
the
deep
knowledge
and
customer
intimacy
on
the
converting,
both
from
our
consumer
flexibles
and
our
traditional
bags
businesses.
And
really,
it's
about
bringing
that
to
bear
and
giving
that
opportunity
offering
to
our
customers.
And
we
are
very
excited
by
a
lot
of
these
opportunities.
And
again,
we're
putting
money
behind
it
to
make
sure
we
stay
ahead
of
the
market
on
this.
Okay.
I'm
going to
take
the
next
question
from
the
phone
line.
For
those
on
the
phone,
remember,
if
you
want
to
ask
a
question,
please
use
star
one.
And
on
the
webcast,
please
use
the
text
box,
but
we'll
move
to
phones.
Next
question
is
from
Lars
at
Credit
Suisse. Good
morning,
Lars.
Good
morning.
Thanks
for
taking
my
question.
I
just
need
to
still
ask
about
Russia.
Of
course,
we're
seeing
quite
a
few
companies
simply
[ph]
putting
down (00:37:37)
trade
lines,
exiting
Russia,
all
sorts
of
reasons.
Where
do
you –
kind
of
how
do
you
think
about
Russia
in
the
context
of
what's
going
on
there? I
know
this
is
an
incredibly
maybe
unfair
and
difficult
question
to
respond
to,
but
if
you
can
provide
some
color
on
that.
And
[indiscernible]
(00:37:56)
simpler
ones,
I
suppose,
you
of
course
had
a
very
strong
price
over
cost
and
very
strong
pricing
momentum,
I
should
say,
at
exceeding
cost
in
2021.
How
should
you
make
us
think
about
that
relationship
in
2022
especially
when
considering
the
big
step
up
you're
seeing
kraft
paper
as
you
– the
annual
contracts,
of
course,
uncoated
fine
is
seeing
strong
momentum.
And
if
you
could
share
some
thoughts
specifically
on
that
business
in
terms
of
the
competitive
environment,
considering
your
cost
business
really
outstanding
versus
some
of
your
peers.
Those
will
be
questions.
Thank
you.
Thanks
very
much,
Lars.
As
I
said
in
my
opening
remarks,
I
mean,
the
situation
in
Russia
is
clearly
rapidly
evolving,
highly
complex,
and
extremely
fluid.
We
are
addressing
that
on
an
active
basis,
actively
monitoring
the
situation,
actively
reacting
to
the
situation.
But
as
I
said,
if
we
have
any
further
updates
to
provide,
we
will
provide
them
as
the
situation
unfolds.
On
the
issue
of
price
versus
cost,
it's
the
perennial
debate.
I
mean,
clearly
the
cost
base
is
rising.
And
I
think
that's
not
new
news
to
anyone.
Everyone
who's
talking
in
the
industry
will
be
telling
you
that
and
not
just
our
industry,
across
industries.
But
I
think
very
importantly,
as
you
rightly
point
out,
we
have
seen
good
pricing
momentum.
Why
is
that?
I
mean,
clearly
the
supply
demand
balances
across
our
paper
offerings
has
been
very
strong
of
late
or
very
supportive,
should
I
say,
of
late.
We've
seen
good
price
momentum
on
the
containerboard
grades,
coming
into
the
start
of
this
year.
Clearly,
pricing
is
well
above
where
it
was
on
average
for
last
year.
Similarly,
on
the
kraft
paper
side
as
you
rightly
point
out,
because
we
have
some
more
contractual
business
in
kraft
paper, it
takes
a
bit
more
time
for
the
pricing
to
come
through.
But
that
has
come
through
as
we
expected
on
the
annual
business
going
into
2022
and
we
highlight
that
the
pricing
right
now
is
well
above
the
averages
for
2021.
So
certainly,
as
we
start
the
new
year,
we
have
seen
good
pricing
and
price
levels
are
well
elevated
from
what
they
were
in
2021,
albeit
the
cost
base
clearly
continues
to
rise.
The
most
– the
biggest
imponderable
on
the
cost
base
right
now
is
everyone
would
testify
too
is
the
energy
situation.
We
can
talk
more
about
that,
but
obviously,
it's
highly
volatile.
The
good
news
for
us
is,
as
you
all
know,
even
though
it
is
an
important
input
cost
and
will
continue
to
be
so, and course,
you've
seen
prices
rise
fivefold,
for
example,
for gas
in
Europe
and
even
beyond
that
now,
it'll
always
impact.
But
we're
also
structurally
well-positioned
because
we
have
a
lot
of
own
energy
production.
Because
by
definition,
if
you're
more
virgin
paper
producer –
more
of
a
virgin
paper
producer,
you
produce
more
of
your own
energy.
And
as
you
know,
we've
been
investing
heavily
for
that
energy
efficiency
over
a
number
of
years
now
and
I
think
that
places
us
in
good
stead
as
well.
So
the
cost
base
although clearly
impacted
by
the
input
cost
pressures
we
see
is
possibly
less
so than
you
might
see
if
we
weren't
so
backward
integrated
into
own
energy
production. So I think, yes, as we sit today,
pricing
is
strong
and albeit
there's
still
a
lot
of
pressure
on
the
cost
base.
Thanks,
Lars.
Good
morning. I'm
Justin
Jordan
from
BNP
Exane.
I've
got
three
separate
questions.
Firstly,
sorry,
I
need
to
ask a
little
bit
more
on
Russia.
Can
you
just
remind
us
firstly,
geographically,
where
are
you Syktyvkar?
From
memory,
you've
been
there
for
several
decades
through
periods
of
economic
and
political
uncertainty.
And
thirdly,
what
are
the
actual
products
that
you
make
and
sell
in
Russia?
Secondly,
back
to,
I
suppose
the
core
business
as
it
were.
Can
you
talk
us
through
the
increased
CapEx
guidance
that
you're
giving
on
slide
13
and
14?
Are
you
within
the
guidance
of
2023
CapEx?
Does
that
explicitly
include
a
decision
on
the
sack kraft
additional
mill?
Is
that
baked
into
the
guidance
as
it were
or
is
there
additional
potential
beyond
that?
And
then
thirdly,
clearly,
you've
just
–
well,
you're
in
the
process
of
realizing
€650
million
from
the
PCC
disposal,
which
is
fantastic
result.
Can
you
talk
us
through
how
the
board
can
think
about
allocating
net
proceeds?
It
gives
clearly
a very,
very
strong
position
to
the
group.
Just
refresh
our
thinking
on
how
we
should
be
thinking
about
capital
allocation
going
forward.
Sure.
Thanks,
Justin.
Let
me
take
questions
two
and
three
first
and
then
Andrew
can
come
back.
In
terms
of
the
capital,
the
cash
CapEx
flows
that
Andrew
talked
about,
that
does
assume
that
we
deploy
that
expansionary
billion
of
capital
to
help
how
that
sort
of
flows
out
and
these
are
sort
of
rough
numbers
because
it
will
change,
but
I
would
think
of
that
billion
flowing
out
in
cash
terms
is
about €250
million
in 2022,
about
€450 million
in
2023, and
then
the
balance
flowing
out
in
the
years
thereafter
if
that
helps.
Thank
you.
In
terms
of
–
you
mentioned
the
sale
of
the
PCC
business.
I
quite
like
to
complete
the
deal
and
get
the
cash
in.
You'd
expect
me
to
say
that.
Listen,
you
know
how
we
think
of
capital.
I've
been
through
it
again
this
morning. That
hasn't
changed.
We'll
continue
to
look
at
that
and
we'll
clearly
look
at
that
once
the
deal
is
completed.
Yes.
Justin,
on
the
Russian
situation,
Syktyvkar is
1,200-odd
kilometers
Northeast
of
Moscow
if
my
geography
is
correct.
It's
high
and
cold.
The
products
out
of
Syktyvkar,
in
particular,
it's
obviously
about
550,000
tonnes
of
uncoated
fine
paper,
330-odd
thousand
tonnes
of
white
top
products,
white
top
containerboard, a
couple
of hundred
thousand
tonnes
of
newsprint
and
some
pulp,
which
is
sold
into
the
outside
market
as
dry
pulp.
So,
that's
around the
product
mix there.
Okay.
I'll
take
one
more
from
the
room
and
then
we'll
go
to
Brian
of
Morgan
Stanley
on
the
phone.
But
one
more
from
the
room
first.
Good
morning,
everyone.
It's
Wade
Napier
from
Avior
Capital.
Just
a
couple
questions
for
me,
specifically
on
the
kraft
investment,
the 200,000-tonne
[ph]
more
(00:44:57) that
you're
sort
of
assessing
there.
Could
you
just give
us
a
little
bit
of
color
what
the
sort
of
size
of
the
market
is
within
Europe
or
globally?
I
just
want
to
sort of
understand
what
200,000 tonnes relatively
looks
like?
And
then
maybe,
post
investment,
what
your
sort
of
split
between
sort
of,
I
guess
call
it,
commoditized
industrial
bags
versus
specialty
paper
would
look
like?
And
then
what
sort
of
–
which
[ph]
mills (00:45:25)
are
you
actually
specifically
looking
at
making
that
investment?
I'm
just
trying
to
think
where
you
have
excess
pulp
capacity
to
accommodate
that,
[ph]
assuming (00:45:33)
you're
going
to
remain
integrated
vertically
post
that
investment.
And
then
secondly,
just
on
FX
maybe,
you
sort
of
have recorded
a
sort
of
impact
of
about
€60
million
this
year.
Obviously,
the
ruble
has
blown
out,
but
what
you
sort
of
– at
spot
prices,
how
should
we
think
about
that
impacting
the
group
in
2022?
Thanks
very
much.
Thanks,
Wade.
So,
just
to
cover
off
the
FX,
if
you
sat
here
today
and
just
worked the
ruble
out
and
other
currencies,
we're
probably
looking
at
something
around
the
€70
million
hit,
[indiscernible]
(00:46:08)
here today.
Most of
that
is
clearly
ruble
denominated.
That's
fairly
volatile
as
you've
seen.
Yes.
And
then,
just
coming
back
on
to
the
kraft
paper machine
that
we
are
looking
at.
In
terms
of
– just
to
put
it
in
context,
we
produced
about
1.2
million
tonnes
of
kraft
paper
grades.
In
round
terms,
it's
about
900,000
tonnes
of
sack
kraft, 300,000
tonnes
of
what
we
call
specialities
with
the
specialities
growing
rapidly.
Now,
in
certain
of
your
facilities,
we
have
the
capability
to
move
between
the
speciality
and
the
sack
kraft.
So,
as
the
different
markets
develop,
we
are
able
to
maneuver
between
them
and
that
is
a
real
strength
of
ours
because
we
have
a
portfolio
of
assets
within
that
kraft
paper,
which
again
makes
us
unique
in
the
market.
What
we'd
be
looking
at
is
–
the
concept
here
is
about
200,000
tonnes
of
incremental
sack
kraft
capacity,
but
it
does
allow
us
in
Syktyvkar,
other
facilities
then
to
look
at
increasing
the
speciality
component.
So,
I
would
think
in
rough
terms,
we
would
look
at
about
on
a
full
incremental
basis,
probably half
of
it
being
sack
kraft
and
the
other
half
being
essentially
specialities
as
we
develop
into
those
speciality
market.
And
that's
because,
as
I
said
earlier, a
lot
of
these
specialities,
speciality
kraft
papers
are
what
are
being
used
in
these
consumer
applications.
And
that
is
obviously
where
we
see
a
lot
of
growth,
but
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of
growth
also
in
the
traditional
sack
kraft
applications.
We
have
an
extremely
strong
downstream
presence
as
you
all
know.
That
is
growing
rapidly. You
saw
the
growth
rates
of
last
year
and
we
continue
to
see
growth
so
we
can
forward
integrate,
frankly
most
of
this
tonnage.
But
we
also
have
an
outside
market
that
we
see
big
opportunities
for
selling
into.
So
we
see
it
as
– yeah,
it's
a
strongly
growing
segment
for
us.
We
are
the
best
positioned
to
deliver
into
that
segment.
In
terms
of
overall
market
size,
the
addressable
global
market
is
hard
to
always
define
because
there
are
a
number
of
kraft
paper
grades
which
are
separately
defined,
but
I
would
say
it's
an
8-million
tonne
global
market
if
you
take
the
total
kraft
paper
segment.
So,
we're
certainly confident
this
is
a paper
that
is
much
needed
in
this
growing
market
and
can
be
easily
absorbed.
In
terms
of
mills
just
finally,
I
mean,
we're
looking
across
our
mill
network.
We
have
again
the
luxury
of
a
lot
of
low
cost
operations
which
have
low
cost
pulp
production
and
also
the
capability
for
expansion.
So,
we're
assessing
that.
But
the
good
news
is
we've
got
options
around
that
and
we
are
refining
all
of
that.
And
as
soon
as
we
have
that
refined,
we
will
be
making
a
final
decision
on
it.
Thanks,
Wade.
So
on
to the
phone
lines.
Brian,
Morgan
Stanley,
over
to
yourself.
Hi,
thanks
so
much,
guys. Sorry,
I'm going
to
beat
this a
little
bit
more
on
the
kraft
paper.
Would
you
expect
it
to
be
a
virgin
or
recycled
feedstock
or
a
combination
of
both?
And
then
also,
if
you
can
just
set
us
on
the
margins,
[ph]
I
mean obviously
you
don't
give
us
numbers,
you
won't
(00:49:35),
but
just
to
help
us
to
frame
our
thoughts
between
– is
the
specialities
materially
higher
margin
than
the
commodity
sack kraft
side
of
things?
That's
one
question on
kraft
paper.
And
then
the
second
one
is
on
energy
costs.
Can
you
give
us
a
number
for
2021?
I
can't
see
it
in
the
release
anywhere
on
total
energy
costs
and
what
you'd
expect
that
to
be
in
2022
if
you
were
to
say
mark
spot
for
the
rest
of
the
year?
Yeah,
sure.
Brian,
again,
let
me
take
the
energy
question
first.
The
energy
costs
in
2021
were
around
€500
million.
I
think
if
you
– depends
what
hour
you
look
at
the
forward
spot.
But
to
try
to
be
helpful,
I
think
you
could
probably
add
on
€250
million, €300
million
to
that.
Again,
I
would
just
balance
that
with
what
we've
also
said,
which
is,
of
course,
the
selling
price
environment.
So
of
course,
if
that
passes
through,
we
still
remain
confident
of
passing
those
costs
through
either
through
price
increases
already
established
or
if
the
market
takes
further
cost
increases,
then
I'm
sure
the
market
prices
will
also
move
across
the
industry
to
adjust.
Yeah,
Brian,
and
on
the
kraft
paper,
the
feedstock,
again,
I
mean
we
have
the
luxury
as
a
business
of
having
a
great
portfolio
here.
So
we
do
have
some
kraft
paper
grades
which
do
have
some
recycled
content.
So,
for
example, the
EcoVantage
product,
which
I
remind
you
is
the
product
we
invested
in
at
the
beginning
of
this
year
with
that
expansion
in
our
[indiscernible]
(00:51:16) machine
to
be
producing
a
product
for
particularly
the
paper
bag,
the
retail
bag
markets.
That
is
sold
out
because
clearly
huge
demand
for
that
both
driven
by
regulation
and
of
course
consumer
preferences.
That
does
have
some
recycled
content.
But
typically
with,
kraft
papers,
our
real
strength
is
in
the
strength
of
our
paper,
which
is
driven
by
the
virgin
pulp
utilization.
So
the
highest
strength,
the
highest
strength
kraft
paper
offerings
typically
are
largely
virgin
pulp
based,
and
that
is
where
we
see
our
real
strength.
So
where
you
see
a
lot
of
these
applications,
for
example,
that
StretchWrap
product
[ph]
and
things (00:52:04),
what
you
really
need
is
high
strength
properties,
and
that
is
what
the
market
is
looking for,
for
these
type
of
applications,
and
we
think
we
are
extremely
well-positioned.
So
[ph]
long and
short (00:52:17)
of
it
is
this
new
capacity
would
be
virgin
based,
but
we
also
have
some
capacity
across
the
group,
which
does
have
some
recycled
content
as
required
for
different
applications.
In
terms
of
the
margins,
I
mean,
it's
a
gross
generalization
to
say
speciality
is
better
than
sack kraft
because
a
lot
depends
on
the
configuration
of
the
assets
that you're
using,
the
markets
that
you
serve.
We
believe
all
our
kraft
paper
offering
is
nicely
profitable.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Move
next
to
James
Twyman
on
the
telephone
line.
Over
to
you,
James.
Yes.
Hi.
Thank
you
very
much.
So,
yeah,
I've
got
three
questions.
The
first
one
is
just
on
wood
costs.
It
sounds
as
though
it
was
sort of
low
single-digit
increases
last
year.
Could
you
get
some
idea
about
whether
that's
similar
again
or
in
terms
of
the
presentation, it
sounds
like
it
may
be
picking
up
a
little
bit.
Secondly,
the
engineered
plastic
products
business,
could
you
talk
about
what
you've
actually
got
left
there? Still
quite
a
decent
sized
business
and
why
you
think
that
those
businesses
are
going
to
be
core to
the
group
in
future
when
they
obviously
weren't part
of
the
flexibles
business
when
you
did
change
the
divisional
structure
before?
And
the
final
one,
just
if
you
don't
mind
just
on
Russia,
there
are
some
companies
that
have
said
that
they're going
to
stop
supplying
paper,
chemicals,
and
other
products
to
Russia.
Just
based
on
the
facts
as
we
see
them
now
in
terms
of
what
companies
have
said
going
forward
to
you,
can
you
continue
operating
under
that
scenario?
Obviously,
things
will
change
in the
future
just
based
on
what
we've
seen
so
far.
Thank
you.
Thanks,
James.
Yeah,
let
me
comment
on
wood.
Yeah,
wood
prices
were
fairly
benign
last
year.
They
were
fairly
flattish. They
have
increased
through
very
back
end
of
last
year
and
into
early
this
year.
So
we
would
expect
wood
to
increase
particularly
around
the
sort
of
Central
Europe
and
Eastern
Europe
area.
So
we
are
expecting
increased
wood
prices
there.
I
think
the
scale
of
that
time
will
tell.
But
I
don't
think
they'll
be
low
single-digit.
They'll
be
higher
than
that.
Clearly,
forecasting
that
forward
becomes
quite
difficult.
But
again,
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
pass
those
through,
we
remain
pretty
confident
on
that.
But
we
will
see
increased
wood
prices
we
believe.
Yes,
James.
On
the
issue
of
what's
left
after
the
disposal
of
PCC, what's
left
is
a
very
important
business
for
us,
which
is
our
functional
paper
and
films
business.
It
was
in
a
different
business
unit
to
flexibles,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
there's
not
significant
interaction
and
integration,
benefits
between
the
two.
And
frankly,
it
fits
more
logically
as
part
of
the
flexibles
value
chain
because
effectively
what
they
do
is
they
use
a
lot
of
the
kraft
paper
grades,
which
they
then
coach
with
different
applications
to
provide
additional
barrier
protection
properties,
which
then
in
turn
can
be
used
either
in
our consumer
packaging
applications
or
a
number
of
other
industrial
applications
and
the
like.
So when
we
talk
about
leveraging
that
unique
platform,
I
see
this
as
a
core
part
of
that
because
this
is
really
interlinkage,
should
I
say,
between
the
paper
businesses
and
the
converting
businesses,
providing
that
extra
barrier
functionality,
which
allows
us
to
make
a
number
of
those
products
that
we
showed
earlier.
And
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
exciting
opportunities
around
us
because
where
you
see
the
need
to
replace
plastic
by
paper
solutions,
invariably,
you
need
to
add
barrier
properties
to
that
paper
and
that's
exactly
what
this
business
does
and
we
are
looking
to
put
more
money
behind
it.
I
mentioned
in
the
presentation
that
we're
looking
to
invest
further
in
that
functional
paper
and
films
area
to
deliver
more
of
these
functional
barrier
papers.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
exciting
opportunities
that
that
business
brings
for
us,
and
it
fits
very
well
in
our
flexibles
offering
and
we
are
looking
to
increase
the
integration
of
that
business
into
our overall
flexibles
offering.
And
then
finally,
on
Russia,
I
mean,
we
are
operational
as
we
said
today.
We're not
unaware
of
all
the
complexities
around
all
of
that.
But
as
of
today,
we
are
fully
operational.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thanks,
James.
We
have
time
for
one
last
question,
and
I'm
going
to
take
it
from
[ph]
Sean
(00:57:07) on
the
phone.
Over
to
you,
[ph]
Sean (00:57:10).
Good
morning,
guys.
Thanks
for
the
time.
A couple of
questions,
and
please
excuse
me,
first
one
[ph]
a
bit
silly (00:57:19).
But
just
in
terms
of
the
PCC
disposal,
barring
sort
of formalities.
Can
we
confirm
that
that is
pretty
much
been
100%
[indiscernible]
(00:57:29)
but
the
proceeds
on
that
basis?
And
then
my
second
question
is
around
the,
I
mean,
it's
quite
a
nice
hefty
CapEx
and
obviously quite
encouraging
in
terms of
your
plans
[indiscernible]
(00:57:42)
in
your
assumptions
for
[indiscernible]
(00:57:46)
CapEx,
what
has
your
assumptions
been
around
Russia and
formulating
that flex.
I
mean,
obviously
the
balance
sheet
at the
moment
is
strong,
the
prices is
going
to be
a bit
stronger
and
you
can pretty
much
assume
[indiscernible]
(00:57:58)
the
balance
sheet
would
be
fine.
So it'd
be
interesting to see
if you
can
give
us
any
insights
on
that.
And
then
just,
sorry
going
back
to
Russia,
just
from
a
operational
[indiscernible]
(00:58:10) at
the
moment,
you've
got
enough
raw
materials,
et
cetera, et
cetera.
But
in
terms
of
actually
making
cash payments
and
receiving
cash
and
export
payments.
Could
you
comment
around
that?
That's
it
from
my
side.
Thanks.
So
thank,
[ph]
Sean (00:58:23).
On
PCC,
the
deal
is
subject
to
normal
customary
closing
conditions.
We'll
work
through
those.
And
as
I
say, we
expect
to
close that
in
the
second
half
of
2022.
Yes.
And
on
the
question
around
CapEx
and
the
Russian
assumptions,
I
mean,
firstly,
obviously,
this
€1
billion
of
CapEx
pipeline
as
you'll
see
is
spread
geographically.
None
of
it
incorporates
our
Russian
position.
But
in
terms
of
funding
requirements,
we
believe
we
are
well-funded
as
a
group.
And
we
have
the
capacity
and
it's
the
right
thing
to
be
doing
to
continue
to
support
long-term
growth
of
the
business.
And
in
terms
of
the
Russian
exports,
again,
I
can
only
reiterate
what
I
said earlier,
it's
a
fluid
situation.
We
continue
to
operate
as
of
today.
Okay.
Listen,
thank
you
very
much.
It's
great
to
be
physically
back
with
everybody to
meet
people.
If
we
haven't been
able
to
get
to
your
question,
apologies
for
that.
But
Clara,
myself,
and
Andrew
are
available
as
ever
to
take
your questions.
Thanks
very
much
for
this
morning
and your
support.