Chart Industries Inc

NYSE:GTLS

Earnings Call Transcript

[Operator]

Good morning, and welcome to the Chart Industries, Inc. 2024 Second Quarter Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] The company's release and supplemental presentation were issued earlier this morning. If you have not received the release, you may access it by visiting Chart's website at www.chartindustries.com. A telephone replay of today's broadcast will be available approximately 2 hours following the conclusion of the call until Sunday, September 1, 2024. The replay information is contained in the company's press release.

Before we begin, the company would like to remind you that statements made during this call that are not historical, in fact, or forward-looking statements. Please refer to the information regarding forward-looking statements and risk factors included in the company's earnings release and latest filings with the SEC. The company undertakes no obligation to update publicly or revise any forward-looking statements.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Jill Evanko, Chart Industries' CEO. Please go ahead.

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Thank you, [ Joel ]. Good morning, and thank you for joining Joe Brinkman, our CFO; and me to walk through our second quarter 2024 results. We are executing consistently and on the path to our reiterated medium-term financial targets, including organic sales CAGR of mid-teens, mid-30% gross margin, adjusted diluted EPS growth CAGR of mid-40% and free cash flow conversion to attain our target net leverage ratio range of 2 to 2.5x.

For all periods referenced, all metrics are pro forma for continuing operations of the combined business of Chart and Howden, unless otherwise noted, which also excludes all assets divested in 2023.

Starting on Slide 5, I would point you to the far right-hand column of the table showing the growth in each metric from the second quarter '23 through the second quarter '24. We had numerous all-time historical records in Q2. These included all-time record reported sales, backlog, gross profit, gross margin, operating income and margin, EBITDA and EBITDA margin. All the associated adjusted metrics for these are also all-time records. Orders were $1.16 billion, an increase of 12% and an increase of about 40%, excluding Big LNG.

Demand remains robust. In a few slides, we will take you through some examples of key wins in the second quarter, including a $40 million data center win for our air cooled heat exchangers and record orders for carbon capture, metals, mining, water treatment and field service. Record sales of $1.04 billion increased 18.8%. Repair service leasing or aftermarket segment as we use for shorthand, was about 35% of our second quarter sales. We had record reported gross margin of 33.8%, and record reported operating income of $167.8 million or 16.1% of sales.

This was also a record $225.7 million when adjusted for specific items primarily related to the Howden integration and consolidation and restructure of our Asia Pacific region into our Middle East and Africa region, resulting in 21.7% record adjusted operating margin. Record reported EBITDA of $229.6 million was also a record 22.1% of sales. When adjusted, EBITDA margin was a record 24.7% of sales.

We are focused on simplifying metrics Therefore, we have included the negative impact of the mandatory preferred dividend in our adjusted diluted EPS, which was not included in prior periods, nor was it in our prior outlook. So compared to the prior outlook, the second quarter adjusted EPS had a negative $0.14 impact from that, and our updated full year guidance compared to prior has a negative $0.60 impact from that, from this definitional change, which has no impact on the underlying business nor anticipated operational performance.

Reported diluted EPS of $1.10 when adjusted was adjusted diluted EPS of $2.18, which again includes that negative $0.14 impact of the mandatory preferred dividend and $0.04 of negative foreign exchange. Our June 30 net leverage ratio of 3.26 has declined from 4.08 since closing on Howden 5 quarters ago. We'll discuss cash in more detail in a moment.

Turning to Slide 6. Our 4 key takeaways are shown here, which we will touch on throughout the deck today. On Slide 7, you can see both the increases in each metric year-over-year as well as the sequential increases in each metric from Q1 to Q2 2024. Every segment and every region sales increased year-over-year, and there were record sales in both the RSL and Specialty Products segments in the second quarter of '24. We are pleased with our operational margin expansion, as you can see on this page and again on Slide 8, which shows the gross margin dropping through to operating profit and margin.

The incremental second quarter '23 to second quarter '24, operational margin improvements increased meaningfully, and all metrics shown on Slide 8 were records this quarter. Reported gross margin was a 310 basis point improvement, adjusted operating margin grew 490 basis points and adjusted EBITDA margin increased 330 basis points. It is important to note that we do have more room to expand margin ahead. We will continue to execute further cost synergies. We have established Chart Business Excellence and associated Six Sigma continuous improvement activities throughout the organization, and we continue to anticipate and execute on further productivity and throughput improvements ahead.

Both cost and commercial synergies have been a key part of our operational margin expansion being ahead of schedule. As you can see on Slide 9, we have exceeded both the size and timing goals of our original year 3 commercial synergy target, which was $350 million by March of 2026. As of yesterday, we have achieved $924 million of commercial synergies and are well on our way to the $1 billion mark, which we anticipate to hit in the third quarter of 2024.

Cost synergies are tracking ahead of schedule toward our original year 3 target of $250 million with $223 million already achieved. We expect to pass the 3-year target by the end of 2024. In the second quarter of 2024, we combined our Asia Pac, India region with our Middle East Africa region, achieving further back-office synergies. Going forward, we are accelerating the localization of products, utilizing our global footprint.

Slide 10 shows some examples of the breadth of our Q2 commercial wins, including compressor packages for a direct reduction iron or DRI application. We are seeing an increasing number of those opportunities in DRI, including this being our second consecutive quarter of orders in new green steel applications. We also received an order for cryogenic storage tanks for a semiconductor company as they continue to manufacture more in the United States. Another benefit of our global manufacturing footprint as nearshoring trends occur.

Q2 also continued our strength of strong orders that individually were each over $1 million with 147 of those in the quarter, and 24 first-of-kind orders. This diversity of awards also reflects our commercial pipeline's breadth across end markets products, solutions and applications. This gives us the opportunity to have a relatively consistent order rate as we have shown over the past 12 months with book-to-bill consistently above 1.

The third quarter 2024 activity has started strong with RSL booking a $10.5 million order for Power Africa Power Station spares, and further orders from this customer totaling over $25 million are expected to be awarded in the second half. In July, we also received an order for approximately $27 million for a significant petrochemical project in Asia Pac. Space exploration orders in July totaled $19 million. Additionally, Airbus has awarded us a contract to fabricate a liquid hydrogen inter vessel subsystem to integrate into an Airbus physical demonstrator program.

We are able to serve the breadth of the end markets and applications just discussed without having to change our manufacturing operations. For example, we manufacture compressors at multiple locations globally, and they serve traditional energy applications as well as specialty markets, including hydrogen and carbon capture. On Slide 11, you can see examples of our equipment that are used across molecules and from traditional energy to energy transition to specialty markets. Because of this, we do not foresee a material impact to our outlook as a result of the U.S. presidential election regardless of administration.

Our ability to serve multiple applications in end markets with these existing manufacturing capacities along with our synergies between Chart and Howden are the primary drivers of our commercial pipeline of opportunities for the next 3 years being at an all-time high over $23 billion. We expect to further increase the pipeline from data centers and artificial intelligence cooling and storage needs given the energy intensive environment, as shown on Slide 12.

As mentioned earlier, in the second quarter, we received an award from a data center provider for approximately $40 million for air cooled heat exchangers for heat rejection, the starting point with a key customer that we anticipate will continue to expand volume ahead. The data center and artificial intelligence opportunity for us, specifically based on 3 gigawatts of data center addition per year is approximately $500 million, and it can expand from there to heavy industrial chilling using Howden leading screw compressors. We anticipate also that our Tuf-Lite IV fan offering will be a key part of data center cooling applications. You can see our Tuf-Lite IV action in the photo in the middle right of Slide 12, which is at a location in Texas.

In this photo, you can see the uniquely designed backward suite characteristic, which improves efficiency and resiliency. Tuf-Lite IVs are another good example of the same equipment being used in multiple end markets, and you'll see this again in a few slides on LNG. In the second quarter, we booked 2 separate U.S. LNG export facility customers' orders to utilize these fans in their terminals. And we are very proud to support Cheniere's debottlenecking efforts with our Tuf-Lite IV fans at both their Sabine Pass and Corpus Christi location.

Another end market that our products serve is nuclear and SMR, as you can see on Slide 13, and this is a market that is gaining traction. For us, our applications include fans and SMR applications and mainly our orders today have been split between France and North America. As Slide 14 shows, LNG activity continues very actively and globally, including a conscious move of LNG operators to more modular solutions, specifically benefiting our IPSMR process technology. Our big LNG commercial pipeline expanded to 32 potential projects, with 16 potential international projects considering using IPSMR. We announced our liquefaction technology and equipment was chosen for Argent's anticipated 20 MTPA project, which is not yet booked into backlog and not included in our medium-term outlook.

The upper left-hand box on Slide 14 shows Q2 '23 pro forma orders to Q2 '24 for a total company and for our HTS segment, which shows non-big LNG orders growth for HTS being significant, representing a series of larger orders in the second quarter, including for air coolers and a South American Small Scale LNG project to name a couple. In LNG infrastructure, we booked our largest ever order for our Decin Czech Republic facility for an LNG regas project. And as of this past week, we have sold 103 LNG trailer orders in China year-to-date 24 comparing to 25 and 15 for the full year '23 and '22.

Slide 15 shows how effectively the RSL or aftermarket segment is executing on our profitable growth strategy plus synergy attainment, which in turn increased RSL to about 35% of our second quarter sales. In the upper left-hand table, sales were a record and grew over 26% and margin was a record 49%, driven by strong field work. Note that this level of RSL margin is not consistently typical. As a point of reference, all quarters to date, since we acquired Howden, ours has been above 43% gross margin, and margins in RSL have been, on average, 200 basis points higher than pro forma RSL pre-acquisition, driven by cost and commercial synergies.

As a result of our fast response to customers and high value add to their operations, there does continue to be upside opportunities and margin benefits ahead in RSL. Second quarter '24 RSL orders of $312.4 million increased 0.5% when compared to the second quarter '23. The second quarter of '23 did include 3 less frequent larger spares orders.

On the right-hand side of Slide 15, I would like to point out a few key second quarter wins we had in RSL. We added a 3-year LTSA to the business with a CNG station customer, another great synergy example. Item B shown as an award for compressor LTSA in Turkey, and Item E is critical heater parts for a power plant in Mexico, a great $6 million win. Both Turkey and Mexico are geographies where we are beginning to see stronger traction and penetration.

We have seen great synergistic aftermarket wins to date, yet we do believe that we are at the beginning of these opportunities that exist in the combined business. For example, key legacy chart customers in refining, power and gas production facilities have now engaged with the Howden local aftermarket teams for parts and services for cooling fans and air coolers.

I'll now hand it over to Joe for the financial detail in our 2024 and medium-term outlook.

[Joseph Brinkman, executive]

Moving to Slide 16. You can see our free cash flow first and second quarter results. On the table, we are showing each category of the calculation that is considered operational cash in a period so that you can tie directly to the beginning and ending balances on the balance sheet. Net cash from operating activities of $115 million includes long-term beyond 1-year balance changes that are not reflective of our quarterly operating activity nor how we provide or previously provided our annual cash flow outlook.

Removing those, combined with our $28 million of second quarter 2024 CapEx spend, our comparable Q2 operating free cash flow was approximately $115 million as compared to our original prior quarter -- prior second quarter cash flow outlook of $175 million. The difference is due to 2 specific intra-quarter items that are cash flow timing that occurred in Q2. These were business decisions that we chose to make to drive stronger customer relationships with key long-term customers, and are timing related where cash is expected in the second half of 2024.

First, an emergency field service situation arose within the quarter. We dedicated a large field service team from other work to respond and the associated timing of cash payment will be in the second half of 2024. We also had a key customer whose project has a cash milestone in the second half, requests that they needed specific steps taken to hold schedule and the related materials purchase occurred earlier than we had previously planned. In the normal course of our larger project business, we achieved a cash positive or cash neutral position.

We continue to see strong margins. Capital spending is declining as expected as our significant capacity expansion is complete and working capital continues to be a source of cash as shown on Slide 17. As we had previously shared in our first quarter 2024 earnings call, we expected $125 million of milestone payments in the second quarter of 2024 for our top 4 projects, and we collected all of that. As you can see on Slide 17, when considering AR, inventory, AP and the net of unbilled and customer advances, we have reduced our net working capital from 23% of sales a year ago to 20% of sales in the second quarter of 2024.

We anticipate our full year 2024 sales to be in the range of approximately $4.45 billion to $4.6 billion, inclusive of an approximate 1% foreign exchange headwind. Forecasted full year adjusted EBITDA is in the range of $1.08 billion to $1.15 billion. Our anticipated 2024 full year adjusted EPS range is $10.75 to $11.75. This range is based on an effective tax rate range of approximately 20% to 21%, and a diluted share count of approximately 47 million. Free cash flow guidance is in the range of approximately $400 million to $475 million.

Compared to our prior 2024 full year outlook, the main drivers of the change are foreign exchange, timing of sales on larger and longer projects, timing of larger awards received late in the second quarter 2024, having revenue impacts in 2025 and 2026, and a purely definitional change to our adjusted EPS calculation by no longer excluding the negative $0.60 mandatory preferred dividend EPS impact. We have included Slide 20 as a bridge from first half 2024 actuals to the second half 2024 adjusted EBITDA outlook.

On Slide 22, you can see our reiterated medium-term financial outlook through 2026. Given the breadth of our end markets and applications, we have multiple macro growth drivers, including energy access, growing need for energy, given the increasing artificial intelligence trends and the continued era of natural gas with energy transition. Our medium-term financial targets are underpinned by continued throughput and productivity activities underway, anticipated further an additional cost synergy achievement and normalizing capital expenditures. We are already in the neighborhood of our midterm gross margin goal based on recent results.

Additionally, this medium-term outlook doesn't include any big LNG projects that were not in our backlog as of September 30, 2023. There are several known big LNG project awards not currently reflected in our backlog and not assumed in our guidance metrics, including IPSMR for an international oil companies Big LNG project, Argent's facility and the drift with 27 MTPA export terminal, which is already permitted. These 3 Big LNG projects that are not yet in backlog total approximately $1.5 billion of Chart content.

The medium-term outlook also excludes future benefits from the U.S. hydrogen hub projects. Just this week, the DOE's Office of Clean Energy Development finalized the second of 7 projects that will receive funding. We anticipate to sequentially grow sales in 2025, and 2026 each in double digits, continue our margin expansion and generate more cash with capital expenditures as a percentage of sales in the 2% to 2.5% range.

To conclude, we are well on our way to our medium financial -- medium-term financial targets, and I would like to take this opportunity to thank our OneChart global team members for their efforts. And for doing so safely, delivering our quarterly lowest rolling 12-month total reportable incident rate of 0.42.

Joelle, please open it up for Q&A.

[Operator]

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from James West with Evercore.

[James West, analyst]

So Jill, I wanted to dig in on your cooling solutions. So obviously, we know Chart very well as an LNG liquefaction provider and a producer -- sorry, a company that is known for synergy solutions and LNG solutions. But a lot of your compression and other equipment, especially the Howden equipment is now being, as you alluded to in your prepared remarks, starting to be used in data centers and SMRs and things like that, where you need to keep things cooler, not hotter.

And so I'd love to hear kind of how you're thinking about those parts of your business and what that opportunities that could be?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes. Thanks, James. We're very excited about that because it's really -- this is an expanded addressable market for us, and it's something that we have the equipment and solutions already being produced for other applications, and they're perfect for the data center and the energy-intensive artificial intelligence arenas.

So air cooled heat exchangers are really mission-critical to these applications. We have the ability to build horizontal, vertical, the one forward that we referenced from the second quarter of $40 million is actually a uniquely designed air cooler to our own design for that application. Then you get into fans. So fans work across these end markets to fans are critical, not only for the cooling and data centers, but also to your point on the nuclear side of things. In July, we received almost $1 million of orders for fans for nuclear applications. So you can see that gaining traction as like you said, may need to get cooler.

On the Howden side, absolutely, especially as more heavy industrial occurs, so we're really excited about the screw compression capabilities that we have on the Howden side because that's perfect for chilling when we talk about heavy industrial tailing applications, which again goes to these energy-intensive increasingly larger sized projects that you're hearing about on a daily basis.

[James West, analyst]

All right. And then maybe just a quick follow-up for me. Did I hear correctly that you think the data center opportunity based on, I think, 3 gigawatts is a [ $0.5 billion ] or so...

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes. So that's our near-term next 3 years based on the -- as the heavy industrial chilling expands, we anticipate that, that can add another $600 million to $800 million addressable market for us, which is really targeted to the Howden side of the business.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Ben Nolan with Stifel.

[Benjamin Nolan, analyst]

Yes. Thanks, Jill. So I -- with respect to the guidance, appreciating there's always moving parts and things can go wrong or whatever. But there's been a couple of times now that slippage has sort of led to a -- the need to change the guidance a little bit. Can you maybe talk through how you're thinking about it, maybe handicapping the timing of projects and maybe how that is baked into what your revised guidance is?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Sure. Absolutely. And let me reiterate the revised guide here, the $4.45 billion to $4.6 billion on the top line and then adjusted EBITDA of $1.08 billion to $1.15 billion. If you look at those margins, that's EBITDA growth year-over-year of 44-plus percent, and that's top line sales growth is in the 20% range. So the challenge that, that against the performance to date way that we look at it, and we feel really good about an all-time record quarter that we had in the second quarter, the trajectory that the business is on posting 24, 27% adjusted EBITDA margins in the quarter.

Clearly, at this point in the year, we have better line of sight to those timings of the projects that, in particular, the orders that came in the first half and the associated timing to those orders. And so this is our look at where we sit today, where we think is in the very reasonable, achievable target range here. And obviously, I challenge anybody to put our growth metrics against other companies in our end market industries.

But with that said, we felt like we needed to give a range that we felt was very achievable, given the fact that we have had timing shifts, ours is not a quarterly business. And therefore, we looked to build some of that kind of inevitable quarterly movement into our updated full year guide. The other thing I would just make sure to point out here, is that our medium-term targets are unchanged, right? So we said our sequential growth is going to be sequential in '25, sequential in 2026. And those medium-term targets don't include that $1.5 billion for those 3 big LNG projects. They don't include any future U.S. hydrogen hub anticipated opportunities.

So again, we felt like that we know enough at this point in the year based on the timing of orders and based on the fact that our business is becoming more project oriented and there's movements between quarters that we needed to bake some of that into the year's outlook.

[Benjamin Nolan, analyst]

Okay. I appreciate it. And just maybe as a follow-up, as you're sort of going forward, do you expect to maybe handicap that a little bit more? Or any thoughts about sort of strategically how you think about doing it?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes. I mean I think, listen, we always put a range out that we think we can achieve with factors that could get us to the high end of the range. Clearly, as we have delivered these record results, which in the second quarter, again, across the board, we're well on our path here. So even with a more handicapped outlook, to your point, we're still on the trajectory to be ahead of our medium-term targets, which is where we sit today.

And so even with a little handicap in into that methodology, then we feel like we're still going to deliver what we said we were and not have to revise the current period because of timing shifts. So yes, to be very direct in your answer.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Marc Bianchi with TD Cowen.

[Marc Bianchi, analyst]

If I look historically on a pro forma basis, it looks like at least EBITDA is kind of flat. So if that's the case, I guess, here for third quarter, it would require a pretty sharp increase for fourth quarter, but maybe you could just talk us through the back -- how the back half is expected to unfold?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Sure. The first part of your question was cut off. So just to make sure I'm answering the question, how the back half is expected to unfold from -- in terms of our outlook?

[Marc Bianchi, analyst]

Yes. EBITDA for the third quarter and free cash flow for the third quarter. And then if those follow historical trends, it would seem to imply a pretty sharp increase in the fourth quarter, but maybe they're not going to follow historical trends.

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Okay. Yes. Thanks for the clarification. The fourth quarter has historically been a very strong fourth quarter us, and we anticipate that to be similar this year, yet again, sequential growth is what we anticipate through the back half. In addition, there's a slide in our deck on Page 20, that kind of walks from the first half to the second half, pointing to specific conversion from various different projects in the backlog as well as Big LNG as well as our cost synergies.

So Q4 should hold true, but should not be what a hockey stick as you have seen sometimes in the past. On the cash side, we would expect the third quarter cash to be positive and fourth quarter cash to be positive. We have very specific looks at the timing of the billings in the third quarter based on how they roll out within the quarter and same for the fourth.

So I would say fourth quarter will be stronger than third quarter yet, we're going to continue to see sequential improvement as we go here through the back half of the year.

[Marc Bianchi, analyst]

Okay. So 3Q free cash flow is better than 2Q is what I think I heard. And then on the EBITDA side, it sounds like 3Q EBITDA to be better than 2Q as well just because there's sequential improvement throughout and it's not as big of a hockey stick.

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes. So that's how we're thinking about first half, second half, exactly like that. So I think you captured certainly the sequential anticipated improvement on the EBITDA side. Obviously, there's a lot of factors in cash flow that go into play here. So -- but we do -- even with the third quarter unsecured interest payment, we do anticipate the cash to be a positive.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Manav Gupta with UBS.

[Manav Gupta, analyst]

The data center opportunities seem pretty good. Can you talk a little bit more about what you're seeing on the hydrogen side of the business, especially as you're coming to a close of this administration, do you expect more hydrogen hub fundings to be released before November and December?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Thank you for the question. On the hydrogen side of the business, we have seen a very global set of demand. And so that's something that's extremely positive. What I also really liked about the second quarter order set in hydrogen for us has been the breadth of the applications that we're seeing. So ranging from compressors for steel applications to liquefaction applications to onboard vehicle tanks for class [ of ] 8 heavy-duty trucks, et cetera.

We just saw recently the DOE's announcement for the funding for a second of the 7 announced hubs. I would anticipate that you'll continue to see that progress forward. But I would like to reiterate that any future hydrogen hub activity that could benefit us is not built into our medium-term outlook. So definitely, global hydrogen is continuing to gain traction and be a part of the solution, and the breadth of applications are now starting to hit the end use side of the value chain so all of those things are a tailwind to us.

And then lastly, I just want to continue to hit the drumbeat around the fact that we don't have to change our manufacturing operations. So much of the same equipment that we build that goes into hydrogen also goes into traditional energy applications across the board. So what we see multiple different ways we can play in the energy transition itself.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Eric Stine with Craig Hallum.

[Eric Stine, analyst]

So I just want to come back to Q4 and just thinking about the guide. I mean are there -- because I know -- I mean as the previous question stated, I mean, you've got a lot of moving parts in your business. And obviously, this quarter, a lot of records, but today I will likely take a backseat to the lower guide. So just thinking about fourth quarter, I mean, are there -- is that -- are there a number of projects that you are anticipating need to hit in that quarter to meet that guide? Or are you contemplating that there is a decent amount of either orders or a chance that those orders may slip into '25? I'm sorry, orders I mean, revenues, sorry.

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Revenues, yes. So we have a very strong backlog and good line of sight to what's in there and the timing associated with it. So we're contemplating what we see today based on our current backlog and/or known orders in the third quarter timing. So the latter to answer your question specifically.

And thank you also for pointing out the second quarter strong records and the trajectory that we're on, realizing again that it's not -- it doesn't have an impact to the medium-term outlook.

[Eric Stine, analyst]

And you would agree, though, with the comment that you think you are appropriately handing capping that fourth quarter because you could have stuff further slip as we just think about our confidence in the back half?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes, we're very thoughtful around the updated guide, knowing that we had at this point in the year and the visibility that we have around the timing of orders that came in, in late Q2 as well as current backlog. So yes, we worked to contemplate that and include it, which we felt like, given the timing moves historically that we've had, we've really worked to build that in.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Rob Brown with Lake Street Capital Markets.

[Robert Brown, analyst]

I just want to hit a little bit on the cost synergy plan for the rest of the year and getting to the goals. What steps are to go? And how much visibility do you have there?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes. Thank you, Rob, for the question. And definitely tracking ahead of plan on the cost synergies. I commented that we expect to be hit our year 3 number by the end of 2024 on the cost synergy side. And there's still quite a bit of opportunity for us, whether that's around the sourcing side. So we expect to see more synergies from the global sourcing plan that we have in play. There's additional localization opportunities, which is cut down on freight cost, things like that.

We're also in massive, kind of massive agreement contract land of various different renewal cycles that come up, whether that's for services or systems and things like that, that we still have opportunity ahead of us here in the second half. So we're excited about the fact that we're executing against our original year 3 target early, but more so that we do continue to see opportunities for further cost synergies ahead.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Pavel Molchanov with Raymond James.

[Pavel Molchanov, analyst]

You called out the U.S. election in November. Of course, we had a lot of elections already this summer. If we zoom in on the U.K. where the labor -- the new labor government is talking about kind of pushing green hydrogen among other sustainability initiatives, what's charge opportunity with that, particularly given the Howden presence in the U.K?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes. Great point. And we do have a good strong presence in the U.K. with Howden on the compression side, and we see multiple opportunities in that particular geography. Recently met with folks locally in the U.K., both public and private companies are looking at not only the green hydrogen project opportunities, but also around their industrial CCUS parts. There is also some planning for water treatment types of opportunities.

So we are very well positioned in the U.K. And thanks to Howden's presence there, we have the connections to get in the projects as early as possible to see that as additional potential upside from what we had been seeing previously.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Ati Modak with Goldman Sachs.

[Ati Modak, analyst]

You had a recent transaction in the LNG and equipment sort of process business in the market. Can you compare and contrast the various components of your LNG offerings with that? And are there similar opportunities for you to acquire that could be attractive?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Thanks, Ati, for the question. And there's been a lot of LNG activity in the market, whether that's NFE's first gas, which uses IPSMR whether that's Woodside's definitive agreement to purchase [indiscernible] Driftwood, [indiscernible] and the Driftwood project or Venture Global getting their FERC approval. So lots of activity, but I think what you're referring to is Honeywell's purchase of Air Products APCI.

And what I would say is what we've seen comparing contrasting generally IPSMR to other technologies is the move to more modular, and that's really what IPSMR sweet spot is, with modular being limited plot space needs also the ability to have higher efficiencies in many cases and partner up with e-drives and other ways to make LNG cleaner and greener.

So what I would say is that we have -- we feel great about our process technologies that are currently in the portfolio, whether that's IPSMR, which is organically developed or our cryo technologies for hydrogen helium, which links up really well on heavy hydrocarbon renewal or NRU. So in terms of technologies, we feel great about how our stacks up against the others. So I wouldn't look -- we don't see any particular things out there with respect to this that we need into the portfolio.

And the other kind of ad hoc item here is just the fact that if there are things that we want to add to the technology, we have an exceptional liquefaction engineering team in-house that does organic product development. And so there's a lot of behind-the-scene R&D happening here, too.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Walt Liptak with Seaport Research.

[Walter Liptak, analyst]

I wanted to ask about the timing issue and try and get a little bit more detail about -- I think this was in the HTS segment that you saw some of the timing issue. And I think in the past that from my experience was following you guys, it's been sort of like a business where you get your lead times, your projects, get the time schedule, and it's been pretty seamless. Better -- wonder if you could clarify which segment the timing issue was in and to? Was it more a matter of when the orders or came in during the quarter that they came in late? Or was it something with the customer schedules changing around?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

So what I would say is we have more larger projects heading across the business than what you have had 2 or 3 years ago, which would have primarily been HTS. So we have larger projects happening across the segments. Obviously, RSL is aftermarket spares, service repair. So that's not really impacted by this. We're really looking at specialty in HTS if you were looking at the brunt of the changes.

I would say that you can't really compare to a couple of years ago or a few years ago because of the fact that there's so many more across the business that is a great thing because it gives us good medium visibility, but yet they're -- 60 or 90 days in a period is not really this type of business. So it's difficult to pinpoint that exactly down.

What I would say is there's a couple of other factors that go into it, like you said, the timing of quarters within -- of orders within a quarter. We had heavy order activity in the month of June. But it is the other part of it being that things move around, customer schedules move around, inputs from supply chain move around that drive and priority changes within a quarter that move where you have to shifts some engineers to work on something that is a higher priority based on customer needs. So all of those things together drive timing between quarters.

[Walter Liptak, analyst]

Okay. Got it. And then I wondered to maybe -- this may not impact. But on the geographic region, when you looked at those timing issues, it sounds like China with the trailers, that's going well for you. But I wonder if you could talk about just kind of regionally where the timing issues are showing up?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Well, our 2 biggest regions are Americas and Europe. So that's where the brunt of the larger project activity happens. And between those 2 regions would be we're focused. China and what we now call [ AIMEA ], so Asia Pac, India, Middle East, Africa, those are a little more book-and-ship oriented businesses as well.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Martin Malloy with Johnson Rice.

[Martin Malloy, analyst]

I wanted to ask about RSL this morning. That segment has been doing extremely well. I'm just trying to get a better sense in terms of the sustainability of the results there and maybe now that you've had it for a while or since the acquisition, if you could maybe speak to some of the initiatives that you see out there that maybe you're thinking about pursuing to continue to drive the growth there and maybe some update on your thoughts there for the growth?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes. Thanks, Marty. And we're very, very pleased with RSL on the aftermarket side of the business, pointing to just the margin performance, which we would attribute to bringing Howden's best practices across the Chart legacy business in this particular area as well as to the commercial synergies that we've seen with having field service proximity to where our customers' installed base is. Those have been really strong wins so far.

But we're in the early innings, we see a lot more opportunity to continue to expand the RSL growth, and that ranges anywhere from the digital offering to the LTSAs across our customer base [ relative ] to further rationalization on the pricing models. And that's kind of driving where we, initially 5 quarters ago when we closed on Howden had about 30% of our revenue in RSL. Obviously, it fluctuates between quarters. But this quarter at 34.7%, we were pleased with that as well as the margin expansion opportunity there.

I'm not going to drive you to say that every quarter is going to be in the high 40% gross margin because that really does depend on mix in the segment between field service and spares yet we do see a meaningful opportunity to continue to grow this segment and grow its margin.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Craig Shere with Tuohy Brothers.

[Craig Shere, analyst]

On the free cash flow bridge on Slide 16. I'm a little confused if you could elaborate about what exactly the long-term balance sheet change is not reflective of quarterly OCF refers to. And the next 2 lines sound like they're kind of like headwind second quarter, but should kind of the tailwinds into the second half, and trying to square that with the reduced guidance for the full year.

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Sure. So primarily in the long term, these are balances for activities outside of 1 year. And when we talk about our cash guide, we talk about a 1-year look. The primarily in there is changes in deferred tax. And then the next 2 lines are related to the 2 specific projects that we talked about or Joe referred to on the call here, then they're specific things we did in the quarter when customers had a need, and we responded to it so that we once again continue to build that relationship and have those opportunities with these particular 2 customers. And they -- these will be certainly cash tailwinds in the second half.

But when we looked at the outlook for the second half or the full year combined on cash, we had a change to our EBITDA outlook for the full year, so that flows through. And then we also looked at our cash conversion that we felt was achievable based on the fact that we have timing moves and build some of that in as well to the guide.

[Operator]

Your next question comes from Sherif Elmaghrabi with BTIG.

[Sherif Elmaghrabi, analyst]

Hopping on a little bit late here, so I apologize if it's been asked, but in the past, I believe you've talked about large-scale IPSMR orders being roughly $30 million per MTPA. So when it comes to the origin LNG deal because that's, I think we said mid-scale LNG. What is the revenue opportunity there?

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Yes. Thanks for the question. So if you look at the 3 projects the 3 Big LNG projects that we don't currently have in backlog, but we know that they will use our technology and equipment that's Argent that Driftwood and that is the international oil companies, Big LNG project that's an international project. Those 3 combined have Chart content of approximately $1.5 billion is the way to think about it.

[Sherif Elmaghrabi, analyst]

That's helpful. And then at a higher level, CCS drove record ordering in Specialty, it was one of the drivers. So I'm just wondering if you could speak to that, are you starting to see orders from industrial scale projects? Or is this order flow coming from localized stuff? So here, I'm thinking about an individual refinery or a power plant.

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Sure. Yes. In Specialty had a few different end markets that had records that we were very pleased with and kind of -- I don't know if you heard during the prepared remarks, but the DRI end market supporting green applications, et cetera. But specific to CCUS, the scales are getting larger. So the sizes of the projects that we're doing are getting larger in a breadth of end markets as well. So a little more expanded kind of applications.

I would say that it's not yet integrated. There's still 1 project per customer style activity, but there's more of them happening and there's more applications and end markets that they're happening in. So that, to us, is a second sequential quarter that CCUS has been a record in terms of orders. So the traction is there, gaining steam and very, I would say, pragmatic practical projects that are looking -- that are using these applications in our technology.

[Operator]

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call over to management for closing remarks.

[Jillian Evanko, executive]

Thanks, everybody, for joining us today. And as Joe concluded our prepared remarks, thank you to the Global OneChart team for all you do and for executing safely with our rolling 12-months TRIR of 0.42 as of the end of June. So thanks, everybody, and appreciate your time.

[Operator]

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