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Q1-2025 Earnings Call

AI Summary
Earnings Call on Apr 30, 2025

Strong Q1 Performance: Hess Midstream delivered strong operating and financial results in Q1 despite weather-related volume disruptions.

Guidance Reaffirmed: Management reaffirmed all full-year 2025 financial and throughput guidance, expecting improved volumes and EBITDA in Q2 and for the rest of the year.

Distribution Growth: The company remains committed to at least 5% annual distribution growth through 2027, supported by stable contract structures.

Capital Allocation: Over $1.25 billion in financial flexibility is targeted through 2027 for shareholder returns, with ongoing plans for multiple unit repurchases per year.

Low Leverage & High Margins: Leverage is around 3.1x EBITDA, one of the lowest in the sector, and EBITDA margins remain robust at about 80%.

Operating Performance

Hess Midstream achieved strong operational and financial performance in the first quarter, despite facing severe winter weather that temporarily reduced throughput volumes. Management highlighted a swift recovery in March and expressed confidence that volumes are back on track to meet annual guidance.

Volume and Throughput Trends

Throughput volumes for gas processing, crude terminaling, and water gathering were lower in Q1 compared to Q4 due to weather-related production declines. However, management expects volume growth in Q2 and throughout the rest of 2025, partially offset by higher seasonal maintenance.

Guidance and Outlook

Management reaffirmed all previously announced guidance for 2025, including full-year financial and throughput targets. Expectations are for net income and adjusted EBITDA to grow each quarter, with second-half adjusted EBITDA forecasted to be approximately 11% higher than the first half.

Distribution and Shareholder Returns

The company continues its strategy of returning capital to shareholders, targeting at least 5% annual distribution growth through 2027. Over $1.25 billion in financial flexibility is projected through 2027 for potential share repurchases, and the quarterly distribution was increased in line with this goal.

Balance Sheet Strength

Hess Midstream maintains low leverage at approximately 3.1x adjusted EBITDA, significantly below sector peers. The company also emphasized its high gross EBITDA margins, with Q1 margin at about 80%, exceeding its 75% target.

Macro Environment & Contract Protections

Management described the business as resilient to macroeconomic volatility thanks to contract structures with no direct commodity price exposure and minimum volume commitments (MVCs) set through 2027. These contracts ensure both growth potential and downside protection.

CapEx and Project Pipeline

Capital expenditures for 2025 are expected to be around $300 million, with continued progress on two new compressor stations and the start of civil construction on a new gas plant. Routine CapEx for well tie-ins is expected to remain stable, even as longer lateral wells are drilled.

Bakken Basin Activity

Hess is running a 4-rig drilling program, reaffirmed for 2025, with no anticipated near-term changes despite sector volatility. The company expects continued oil and gas volume growth and highlighted that third-party volumes typically represent about 10% of the total.

Gas Processing Throughput
424 million cubic feet per day
Change: Down compared to Q4 due to weather.
Guidance: 455 to 465 million cubic feet per day for the year.
Crude Terminaling Throughput
125,000 barrels of oil per day
Change: Down compared to Q4 due to weather.
Water Gathering Throughput
126,000 barrels of water per day
Change: Down compared to Q4 due to weather.
Net Income
$161 million
Change: Down from $172 million in Q4 2024.
Guidance: $170 million to $180 million in Q2 2025; $715 million to $765 million for full-year 2025.
Adjusted EBITDA
$292 million
Change: Down from $298 million in Q4 2024.
Guidance: $300 million to $310 million in Q2 2025; $1.235 billion to $1.285 billion for full-year 2025.
Gross Adjusted EBITDA Margin
80%
Guidance: Target remains 75%.
Capital Expenditures
$50 million (Q1); $300 million (expected full-year 2025)
Guidance: Increase expected in Q2 and Q3 due to seasonal activity.
Adjusted Free Cash Flow
$191 million (Q1); $735 million to $785 million (expected full-year 2025)
No Additional Information
Distribution per Class A Share
Increased by approximately 57% since 2021
Guidance: Targeted to grow at least 5% annually through 2027.
Shareholder Returns (since 2021)
$1.95 billion returned
Guidance: Expect multiple unit repurchases per year through 2027.
Leverage
3.1x adjusted EBITDA
Guidance: Expected to fall below 2.5x by end of 2026.
Gas Processing Throughput
424 million cubic feet per day
Change: Down compared to Q4 due to weather.
Guidance: 455 to 465 million cubic feet per day for the year.
Crude Terminaling Throughput
125,000 barrels of oil per day
Change: Down compared to Q4 due to weather.
Water Gathering Throughput
126,000 barrels of water per day
Change: Down compared to Q4 due to weather.
Net Income
$161 million
Change: Down from $172 million in Q4 2024.
Guidance: $170 million to $180 million in Q2 2025; $715 million to $765 million for full-year 2025.
Adjusted EBITDA
$292 million
Change: Down from $298 million in Q4 2024.
Guidance: $300 million to $310 million in Q2 2025; $1.235 billion to $1.285 billion for full-year 2025.
Gross Adjusted EBITDA Margin
80%
Guidance: Target remains 75%.
Capital Expenditures
$50 million (Q1); $300 million (expected full-year 2025)
Guidance: Increase expected in Q2 and Q3 due to seasonal activity.
Adjusted Free Cash Flow
$191 million (Q1); $735 million to $785 million (expected full-year 2025)
No Additional Information
Distribution per Class A Share
Increased by approximately 57% since 2021
Guidance: Targeted to grow at least 5% annually through 2027.
Shareholder Returns (since 2021)
$1.95 billion returned
Guidance: Expect multiple unit repurchases per year through 2027.
Leverage
3.1x adjusted EBITDA
Guidance: Expected to fall below 2.5x by end of 2026.

Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Quarter 2025 Hess Midstream Conference Call. My name is Kevin, and I'll be your operator for today. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised today's conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jennifer Gordon, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please proceed.

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Jennifer Gordon
executive

Thank you, Kevin. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in our first quarter earnings conference call. Our earnings release was issued this morning and appears on our website, www.hessmidstream.com.

Today's conference call contains projections and other forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in such statements. These risks include those set forth in the Risk Factors section of Hess Midstream's filings with the SEC.

Also on today's conference call, we may discuss certain GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the differences between these non-GAAP financial measures and the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the earnings release. With me today are John Gatling, President and Chief Operating Officer; and Jonathan Stein, Chief Financial Officer. I'll now turn the call over to John Gatling.

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John Gatling
executive

Thanks, Jennifer. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Hess Midstream's First Quarter 2025 Conference Call. Today, I'll discuss our first quarter performance and review Hess Corporation's results and outlook for the Bakken. Jonathan will then review our financial results and guidance.

In the first quarter, Hess Midstream delivered strong operating and financial performance despite challenging weather. Throughput volumes averaged 424 million cubic foot per day for gas processing, 125,000 barrels of oil per day for crude terminaling, and 126,000 barrels of water per day for water gathering. In line with our guidance, throughput volumes were down compared to the fourth quarter, reflecting lower production from Hess due to severe winter weather in January and February, partially offset by higher third-party oil volumes and a strong recovery in March.

Now turning to Hess Upstream highlights. Earlier today, Hess reported first quarter net production for the Bakken averaged 195,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day. Hess reiterated their plans to continue running a 4-rig drilling program in 2025 and expects Bakken net production to be in the range of 210,000 to 215,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day in the second quarter, up approximately 9% at the midpoint compared to the first quarter.

Turning to Hess Midstream guidance. We're reaffirming our previously announced full year 2025 financial and throughput guidance. In the second quarter, we expect volume growth from the first quarter across our oil and gas systems, partially offset by higher seasonal maintenance activity.

Turning to Hess Midstream's capital program. Our multiyear projects continue as planned. In 2025, we remain focused on completion of 2 new compressor stations and their associated gathering systems as well as starting civil construction on the Capa gas plant. Full year 2025 capital expenditures remain unchanged and are expected to total approximately $300 million.

In summary, we remain focused on executing our strategy of disciplined low-risk investments to meet basin demand while maintaining reliable operations and strong financial performance. We expect our growth strategy to generate sustainable cash flow and create opportunities to return additional capital to our shareholders. I'll now turn the call over to Jonathan to review our financial results and guidance.

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Jonathan Stein
executive

Thanks, John, and good afternoon, everyone. We continue to execute a financial strategy that prioritizes return of capital to shareholders with a demonstrated track record of differentiated shareholder returns. Since the beginning of 2021, we have returned $1.95 billion to shareholders through accretive repurchases. In addition, through the combination of our 5% targeted annual distribution growth and 10 distribution level increases following each repurchase, we have increased our distribution per Class A share by approximately 57% since 2021. As a result, our total shareholder return yield is one of the highest of our midstream peers.

Furthermore, our leverage of approximately 3.1x adjusted EBITDA is one of the lowest among our peers, highlighting our differentiated ability to deliver significant shareholder returns while also maintaining balance sheet strength. In January, we announced that we expect to generate greater than $1.25 billion of financial flexibility through 2027 for incremental shareholder returns, including the potential for multiple unit repurchases per year over this period.

We have also announced that we are targeting annual distribution per Class A share growth of at least 5% through 2027, which is supported by existing MVCs. This week, we announced our first quarter distribution increase that is consistent with this targeted 5% annual growth per Class A share.

Turning to our results. For the first quarter of 2025, net income was $161 million compared to $172 million for the fourth quarter of 2024. Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of 2025 was $292 million compared to $298 million for the fourth quarter of 2024. As guided in January, adjusted EBITDA decreased relative to the fourth quarter of 2024 as was primarily attributable to low volumes and revenues, partially offset by lower costs and the annual increase in rates due to inflation.

Total revenues, excluding pass-through revenues decreased by approximately $13 million, primarily driven by lower throughput volumes from severe winter weather during the first quarter as John described, resulting in segment revenue changes as follows: processing revenues decreased by approximately $7 million, and gathering revenues decreased by approximately $6 million. Total cost and expenses, excluding depreciation and amortization, pass-through costs and net of our proportional share of LM4 earnings decreased by approximately $7 million, primarily from lower third-party processing fees and lower G&A allocations under our omnibus and employee succumbent agreements, resulting in adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of 2025 of $292 million.

Our gross adjusted EBITDA margin for the first quarter was maintained at approximately 80%, above our 75% target, highlighting our continued strong operating leverage. First quarter capital expenditures were approximately $50 million. And net interest, excluding amortization of deferred finance costs, was approximately $51 million, resulting in adjusted free cash flow of approximately $191 million. We had a drawn balance of $128 million on our revolving credit facility at quarter end.

Turning to guidance. For the second quarter of 2025, we expect net income to be approximately $170 million to $180 million and adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $300 million to $310 million, reflecting higher volumes and revenues, partially offset by seasonally higher maintenance costs. We also expect CapEx to increase in the second and third quarters, consistent with seasonally higher activity levels.

For the full year 2025, we are reaffirming all previously announced guidance and expect net income of $715 million to $765 million and adjusted EBITDA of $1,235,000,000 to $1,285,000,000. With total expected capital expenditures of approximately $300 million, we expect to generate adjusted free cash flow of $735 million to $785 million. With distributions per Class A share targeted to grow at least 5% annually, we expect excess adjusted free cash flow of approximately $135 million after fully funding our targeted growing distributions.

For the remainder of 2025, we expect growing adjusted EBITDA in each quarter, consistent with increasing volumes. As implied by the midpoints in our guidance, we anticipate adjusted EBITDA in the second half of the year to be approximately 11% higher relative to the first half.

In summary, we are very pleased to have delivered additional incremental return of capital to Hess Midstream shareholders and look forward to a visible trajectory of growth in our operational and financial metrics that underpin our unique and differentiated financial strategy with a focus on consistent and ongoing return of capital to our shareholders. This concludes my remarks. We'll be happy to answer any questions. I will now turn the call over to the operator.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jeremy Tonet with JPMorgan.

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Elias Jossen
analyst

This is Eli Jossen on for Jeremy. Just wanted to start on the Bakken outlook in light of ongoing macroeconomic volatility. Can you just help frame some of the sensitivities for the business and how we should be monitoring those throughout the year, recognizing MVCs are likely playing a role here?

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John Gatling
executive

Sure. Yes, I'll touch on it and then I can hand it over to Jonathan. Obviously, in the basin itself, it's very operator dependent. It's going to -- there's a lot of moving parts to the basin. There's a lot of different ways that the programs are being managed by the different operators. From Hess perspective, we've not really seen any change in activity. Hess just reaffirmed the plans to run 4 rigs for the rest of this year.

We're well above MVC levels. And I would say that from a growth trajectory, we really haven't seen a step change in activity, and we're really not anticipating it in the near term. We do, as you mentioned, we do have MVCs that are established through 2027. We'll also be setting our '28 MVCs later in the fall and early next year. So again, that provides protections. But from our perspective, the activity is still there. And in fact, we're continuing to see the same level of activity in our third-party business as well. So both Hess and third parties remain fairly active. I don't know, Jonathan, if there was anything you wanted to add there.

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Jonathan Stein
executive

John, thanks. That was -- what I'd just add is, I think, as a reminder, that one of the hallmarks of Hess Midstream has really been our proven track record of stability and visibility even through volatile periods. That includes, of course, underpinning that is our contracts that have no direct commodity price exposure, that generate our toll boat type revenue include inflation escalators and our operating model, which gives us a 75% EBITDA margin.

Remember, our CapEx spend is relatively low, so only $125 million of ongoing CapEx in our CapEx program. Of course, our low leverage at 3x EBITDA, one of the lowest in the sector and no near-term maturities. And as John mentioned, of course, our MVCs set through 2027, which was set based on a 4-rig program. And our 5% targeted distribution growth could be delivered even at MVC levels. So we're well positioned for the growth, as John said. No change there. We're well positioned to capture that growth but we're also well positioned for stability during a volatile period.

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Elias Jossen
analyst

Got it. That's great color from both. And then I guess just thinking about the volumes in excess of the MVCs, just maybe the split there, third parties, where you see those volumes right now? And any color you can provide on performance against the MVCs would be great.

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John Gatling
executive

Yes. And just as a reminder, the MVCs are set at approximately 80% of the nomination. So we're much closer to the nomination and continue to expect to see the volume growth over the longer term. As far as Hess versus third parties, we do expect, over the long term, third parties to represent approximately 10% of our total volume. So if Hess is continuing to grow by proxy, the third parties are growing essentially at the same rate since we kind of expect that to be in that 10% range.

We're constantly looking for opportunities to capture more volumes. I think with our strategic footprint, we're able to capture offset well pads that may be operated by others. Those are always things that enable us to actually bring additional volumes in the system. And in fact, in the first quarter, oil outpaced our gas slightly, and it was a result of those kind of offset well pads where we were actually able to capture third-party volumes that were recently brought on in the first quarter.

So that's -- it's a nice way to kind of mitigate the the portfolio of production that we've got between Hess and third parties, but Hess still represents the lion's share of our production.

Operator

Our next question comes from Naomi Marfatia with UBS.

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Naomi Marfatia
analyst

My first question is on basin rig count. Hess has reaffirmed its 4-rig. But do you think the oil rig decline overall, given the current macro environment? So just kind of curious on your thoughts on how should we think about any rig reduction at this point. And if you could perhaps discuss how Hess rig levels are contemplated and has it changed 2025, 2026 to 2027 outlook at this point?

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John Gatling
executive

Yes. I mean, I think as Hess has always done, and I think the midstream does it the same way is we look past short-term volatility, and we're looking for longer-term supply/demand. And we see the Bakken as a premier basin in the U.S. that provides a lot of oil, both domestically and internationally. And so from our perspective, we're continuing to see the rig plan that we've got in place.

As we mentioned, both I mentioned and Jonathan mentioned about our MVCs, we have those protections in place through the contract structure, but we are continuing to expect at a relatively consistent activity level, continue to expect to see oil volumes continuing to grow and then obviously, gas volumes continuing to grow as well with slight increase in GOR.

So overall, I think we're feeling pretty good about the activity. There's obviously some uncertainty in the market right now. But from our perspective, we're seeing stability, both for the Hess-operated production but also the third parties that we're supporting. We're continuing to see approximately the same level of activity going on. The basin rig count floats around quite a lot. It can depend on maintenance activities. It can depend on rig moves. So I wouldn't necessarily, in the short term, read too much into that, but just keep looking at the longer term, and that's kind of how we're looking at it.

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Jonathan Stein
executive

Yes. And I would just highlight, just really underpinning what John said is that we did reaffirm all of our guidance for 2025. And of course, that also means we're also reaffirming our forward guidance in terms of growth to '26 and '27, which is all underpinned by the MVCs, which is, again, as I said, can support our 5% targeted distribution growth.

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Naomi Marfatia
analyst

That's helpful. Maybe another 1 on buybacks and secondaries. We saw a buyback in January, which was a 4Q push. And I've not heard about any additional buybacks for this quarter. So kind of just curious if there was any change in cadence as it relates to buybacks or secondaries now that GIP is less than 10% of Hess.

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Jonathan Stein
executive

Sure, yes. In terms of -- let me hit secondaries first. In terms of secondaries, as we've always said, there's no plan for secondaries. Those are investor demand-driven. To the extent that investors -- there's demand for secondary GIP, we'll evaluate that demand relative to their own disciplined view of value. And then if there is a match, then obviously, they would execute a secondary, but there's no specific plan or cadence for those.

In terms of the repurchases, as we announced in January, we have more than, and as I said in my remarks, more than $1.25 billion of financial flexibility through 2027 and expect to do multiple repurchases a year as we've done in the past. There's no change to that guidance. Over the past couple of years, we have done about $100 million a quarter generally, but that's not necessarily set in stone. Really, that may vary from time to time, but no change in terms of multiple repurchases per year. And we expect to continue to do that through the rest of this year going forward.

Operator

Our next question comes from Praneeth Satish with Wells Fargo.

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Praneeth Satish
analyst

So Q1, the gas processing volumes were 424 MMcf per day versus the guidance of 455 to 465 due to the weather challenges in January. Can you maybe just share where processing volumes are at currently into April? Have volumes kind of recovered into the range that you're forecasting for the year of 455 to 465? Just trying to understand the cadence.

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John Gatling
executive

Yes. I mean, I think the way to look at the volumes, and yes, January and February were very difficult weather challenges. Two things were occurring in that period of time. And we kind of anticipated this in late January, that this was going to be something that was going to affect first quarter performance. Temperatures were lower for longer. They didn't hit those extreme temperatures that we've seen in the past, but they were sub 0, minus 20, minus 30 degrees, but the wind played a significant impact in the weather. And that had a direct impact on Hess volumes and ultimately, the throughputs that came through our system.

As far as what we're seeing now, we've seen a very strong recovery. And I think you can, without giving specific second quarter guidance, you kind of know what our reaffirmed guidance is for 2025. You look at where we exited in '24, and you kind of see a trajectory there where there's a nice smooth transition into Q2. So we're feeling really good about coming out of March really strong. I think the team up in North Dakota has done a great job, both on the upstream and the midstream side to manage that. And well performance has been strong, well delivery has been strong. So overall, I think we're extremely optimistic about the volumes coming into the system and continuing the trajectory that we'll meet our guidance for the year.

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Praneeth Satish
analyst

Got it. And then secondly, I just wanted to -- I know this isn't the kind of the base case now, but I'm just trying to understand at what oil price would Hess consider shifting down to a 3-rig program? It doesn't seem like that's the case, but at the same time, we are seeing oil prices continue to weaken and OPEC taking action here. So just trying to understand how much cushion there is on that 4-rig count.

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John Gatling
executive

Yes. I mean, I think maybe I'll hit it and then Jonathan could add any additional context. From our perspective, we're looking past the short-term volatility. And I think Hess has done that over the long term. I mean, Hess Midstream obviously ready to prepare in any kind of extreme price environments. But from our perspective, we're trying to really look through the short-term price volatility.

And again, we do see there being need for the production. We're seeing activity levels remain relatively consistent in the basin. There are some fluctuations for smaller operators. But as we talk to Hess and as we anticipate the development, the economics of these wells just keep getting better, and we're -- Hess is drilling 3- and 4-mile laterals. It's brought on its first two 4-mile laterals. They're very, very strong producing wells.

These lower the breakevens for both 3- and 4-mile wells. So when you start talking about some of the price sensitivity, the ability to execute those efficient longer laterals are lowering that breakeven, which takes some of the relief, some of the pressure off of the price. And again, I think both Hess and Hess Midstream look past short-term volatility to try and maintain that consistent activity level. I don't know, Jonathan, if there's anything else you wanted to add.

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Jonathan Stein
executive

No, that was great. I think as you said, we're positioned for growth. There's no change right now and Hess continue to be a firm 4 rigs, as John said, and all the factors you said. And then as I highlighted earlier, we also have a proven track record of getting through volatile periods as well. So nothing to add.

Operator

Our next question comes from Doug Irwin with Citi.

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Douglas Irwin
analyst

Maybe just 1 more macro question for the Bakken just in the context of rising GORs. I realize it's still early days and you're focused on the long term here. But just curious if you have a view on what gas growth would look like in the basin, a scenario where you're potentially seeing flat crude production near term.

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John Gatling
executive

Yes. I mean, I think the -- when you talk -- relates to the North Dakota pipeline, Justin Kringstad kind of often talks about flatter oil but growing gas. We do see that in our production. I mean, when you look at Hess, we do anticipate oil growth so it's a little bit different than the basin. But on the GOR side, the question you asked about GORs, we do anticipate GORs to increase over time as those wells mature and as the kind of gas makes its way through the production system.

So from our perspective, I think going from about 3, 3.5 Bcf of total gas, growing to the 5 to 6 Bcf of gas in the basin for the macro, which, again, is coming from the North Dakota Pipeline Authority, we see a similar trajectory as it relates to gas growth versus oil. So as the wells mature, we do anticipate GORs increase over time. This is all predicted and something that we've been talking about for quite some time. So we do expect gas volumes to continue to increase over time.

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Douglas Irwin
analyst

Got it. That's helpful. And then a follow-up just on capital allocation. Can you maybe remind us how much of that $1.25 billion of flexibility you talked about is driven by leverage capacity versus excess cash flow? And I think in the past, you've shown at least a bit of an appetite to temporarily move above 3x leverage to buy back shares. Just curious how you're thinking about that target today in the context of capital allocation.

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Jonathan Stein
executive

Sure. So in terms of the $1.25 billion, it's about half. We've talked about our leverage falling below 2.5x by the end of 2026 and then through 2027, that gives you about half a turn. So if you work out the growth on our EBITDA based on the guidance we've given through -- trajectory through 2027, you can get about half of the $1.25 billion. And then as our free cash flow grows quicker than our 5% target growth, that also gives us excess free cash flow, and that gives you about the other half. So about half in terms of leverage capacity and the other half in terms of cash.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Mackay with Goldman Sachs.

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John Mackay
analyst

Two quick ones for me. Just first, you mentioned the increasing 4-mile laterals that Hess, as that becomes kind of more of the overall well mix, does that change the CapEx intensity for HESM going forward if we think about CapEx per incremental barrel or something like that?

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John Gatling
executive

No, not particularly. Most of the well pad locations, the surface locations are generally set. We are still building some greenfield sites. But I would say, generally speaking, the 3- and 4-mile laterals get placed close to the same approximate location as the 2-mile laterals were. What it ends up doing is it ends up making some of those areas that were a little more marginal, a little more economic. So it may shift the sequence of when wells are drilled.

But as Jonathan mentioned, we're in that $100 million to $125 million of ongoing capital that's related to well tie-ins and we really don't anticipate that being materially different as a result of the longer lateral drilling by Hess.

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John Mackay
analyst

That's helpful. Second quick one, just going to gas growth in the basin and egress. There's a new residue pipeline kind of proposed out there. Curious, just any thoughts you can share on that? And then maybe just broadly kind of the state of egress across the basin overall on the gas side.

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John Gatling
executive

Sure. And when you're talking about the -- are you talking about the Bison takeaway systems?

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John Mackay
analyst

No, think about the intensity one but curious, Bison's coming sooner, I guess.

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John Gatling
executive

Yes. I think Bison is a bit more kind of focused on the residue gas export. I think overall, we obviously work very closely with Hess to make sure that flow assurance is there. We've got all the commitments we need to make sure that we've got plenty of capacity out of the basin.

I do think as gas continues to grow, I think others that maybe haven't been as focused on flow assurance, there could be some additional challenges for them. But as we think about Hess's and Hess Midstream's volumes, we feel like we've got that well taken care of through the export agreements we've got in place. And for the new expansions that are in place, Bison as an example, Hess is a shipper on the Bison express system, and that just adds some additional flexibility to Northern Border and the ONEOK system.

Operator

And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. As such, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect, and have a wonderful day.

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