Janus International Group Inc
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Market Cap: $712.4m

Q1-2025 Earnings Call

AI Summary
Earnings Call on May 8, 2025

Revenue Decline: Janus reported first quarter 2025 revenue of $210.5 million, down 17.3% year-over-year, largely in line with expectations.

Segment Weakness: Self-storage revenue fell 23.1%, and new construction was down 25.5%, driven by project delays and macroeconomic uncertainty. R3 segment grew 19.3%.

Profitability Impacted: Adjusted EBITDA was $38.4 million (down 42.1%), with margin dropping to 18.2% due to lower volumes and less favorable mix.

Guidance Reaffirmed: Full-year 2025 outlook for revenue ($860–$890 million) and adjusted EBITDA ($175–$195 million) was reaffirmed.

Cost Reduction Progress: Cost savings plan on track, with $1.5 million realized in Q1 toward a $10–$12 million target by year-end.

Tariff Exposure: Tariff-related costs expected to be in the low single-digit millions for 2025, rising to $10–$12 million annually if unmitigated in future years.

Backlog & Pipeline: Backlog and pipeline are showing steady growth, with management optimistic about a stronger second half.

Cash Generation & Capital Allocation: Strong cash flow enabled a $40 million debt prepayment and $5.1 million in share buybacks during the quarter.

Revenue Trends

Revenue for the first quarter fell sharply, down 17.3% year-over-year. Both self-storage and new construction segments experienced significant declines due to delayed customer projects and cautious capital deployment amid economic uncertainty. The R3 segment, however, saw notable growth, partially offsetting the declines in other areas.

Cost Reduction Initiatives

The company is progressing on its cost reduction plan introduced in 2024, realizing $1.5 million in savings during Q1 and aiming for $10 million to $12 million in annual pretax savings by year-end. These efforts target improved margins, a streamlined organizational structure, and enhanced operational efficiency.

Tariff and Material Cost Exposure

Management addressed potential tariff impacts, estimating 2025 costs in the low single-digit millions due to domestic sourcing and inventory positions. If current tariff rates persist into 2026 without mitigation, the annual impact could reach $10 million to $12 million. The company is pursuing productivity and commercial actions to offset these pressures.

Order Backlog and Pipeline

Despite the tough environment, the order backlog and sales pipeline have both grown modestly, with management highlighting increased project movement since late 2024. Churn rates for projects remain elevated compared to pre-pandemic norms, but both orders and pipeline have been trending upward since the start of the year.

Segment Dynamics

The self-storage and new construction segments suffered from volume declines as customers delayed projects. The R3 segment, focused on renovation and replacement, benefited from an uptick in activity, particularly as institutional customers shift focus from new builds to upgrading existing properties. Commercial sheet door sales remained soft, but other commercial lines showed signs of stabilization.

Financial Strength and Capital Allocation

Janus maintained robust cash generation, ending the quarter with $217.1 million in liquidity and net leverage of 2.3x. The company made a $40 million voluntary debt prepayment and repurchased $5.1 million in shares, signaling disciplined capital allocation and financial flexibility.

Guidance and Outlook

Full-year 2025 guidance for revenue and adjusted EBITDA was reaffirmed. Management expects results to improve in the second half as customers increasingly shift focus toward renovation projects (R3) and as the backlog works through. Free cash flow conversion is expected to be at the higher end of the 75%–100% target range.

Noke Smart Entry System

The Noke smart entry system reached 384,000 installed units at quarter-end, up 5.2% sequentially. Although the growth rate has moderated as the installed base grows, management remains optimistic about continued adoption, especially with the new Noke Ion product.

Revenue
$210.5 million
Change: Down 17.3% YoY.
Guidance: $860 million to $890 million in 2025.
Adjusted EBITDA
$38.4 million
Change: Down 42.1% YoY.
Guidance: $175 million to $195 million in 2025.
Adjusted EBITDA Margin
18.2%
Change: Decreased by approximately 790 basis points YoY.
Guidance: 21.1% at midpoint for 2025.
Adjusted Net Income
$17.7 million
Change: Down 51.6% YoY.
Adjusted EPS
$0.13
No Additional Information
Cash from Operating Activities
$48.3 million
No Additional Information
Free Cash Flow
$41.9 million
Guidance: Expected to be near the higher end of 75% to 100% of adjusted net income for 2025.
Free Cash Flow Conversion
170% of adjusted net income (trailing 12 months)
No Additional Information
Capital Expenditures
$6.4 million
No Additional Information
Total Liquidity
$217.1 million
No Additional Information
Cash and Equivalents
$140.8 million
No Additional Information
Total Outstanding Long-term Debt
$557 million
No Additional Information
Net Leverage
2.3x
Guidance: Target range of 2x to 3x.
Shares Repurchased
0.6 million shares for $5.1 million
No Additional Information
Share Repurchase Authorization Remaining
$16.3 million
No Additional Information
First Lien Term Loan Prepayment
$40 million
Guidance: Expected to lower annual interest expense by $2.2 million in 2025 and $2.7 million annualized.
Noke Installed Units
384,000
Change: Up 5.2% sequentially.
Cost Reduction Savings
$1.5 million in Q1
Guidance: $10 million to $12 million in annual pretax cost savings by end of 2025.
Tariff Expense Impact (2025 estimate)
Low single-digit millions
No Additional Information
Tariff Expense Impact (annual, ongoing)
$10 million to $12 million
No Additional Information
Revenue
$210.5 million
Change: Down 17.3% YoY.
Guidance: $860 million to $890 million in 2025.
Adjusted EBITDA
$38.4 million
Change: Down 42.1% YoY.
Guidance: $175 million to $195 million in 2025.
Adjusted EBITDA Margin
18.2%
Change: Decreased by approximately 790 basis points YoY.
Guidance: 21.1% at midpoint for 2025.
Adjusted Net Income
$17.7 million
Change: Down 51.6% YoY.
Adjusted EPS
$0.13
No Additional Information
Cash from Operating Activities
$48.3 million
No Additional Information
Free Cash Flow
$41.9 million
Guidance: Expected to be near the higher end of 75% to 100% of adjusted net income for 2025.
Free Cash Flow Conversion
170% of adjusted net income (trailing 12 months)
No Additional Information
Capital Expenditures
$6.4 million
No Additional Information
Total Liquidity
$217.1 million
No Additional Information
Cash and Equivalents
$140.8 million
No Additional Information
Total Outstanding Long-term Debt
$557 million
No Additional Information
Net Leverage
2.3x
Guidance: Target range of 2x to 3x.
Shares Repurchased
0.6 million shares for $5.1 million
No Additional Information
Share Repurchase Authorization Remaining
$16.3 million
No Additional Information
First Lien Term Loan Prepayment
$40 million
Guidance: Expected to lower annual interest expense by $2.2 million in 2025 and $2.7 million annualized.
Noke Installed Units
384,000
Change: Up 5.2% sequentially.
Cost Reduction Savings
$1.5 million in Q1
Guidance: $10 million to $12 million in annual pretax cost savings by end of 2025.
Tariff Expense Impact (2025 estimate)
Low single-digit millions
No Additional Information
Tariff Expense Impact (annual, ongoing)
$10 million to $12 million
No Additional Information

Earnings Call Transcript

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Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Janus International Group First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Ms. Sara Macioch, Senior Director, Investor Relations of Janus. Thank you. You may begin, Ms. Macioch.

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Sara Macioch
executive

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for joining our earnings conference call. I am joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Ramey Jackson; and our Chief Financial Officer, Anselm Wong. We hope that you have seen our earnings release issued this morning. We have also posted a presentation in support of this call, which can be found in the Investors section of our website at janusintl.com.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that today's call may include forward-looking statements. Any statements made describing our beliefs, plans, strategies, expectations, projections and assumptions are forward-looking statements. The company's actual results may differ from those anticipated by such forward-looking statements for a variety of reasons, many of which are beyond our control. Please see our recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which identify the principal risks and uncertainties that could affect our business, prospects and future results. We assume no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements and any forward-looking statement made by us during this call is based only on information currently available to us and speaks only as of the date when it is made.

In addition, we will be discussing or providing certain non-GAAP financial measures today, including adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, adjusted net income and adjusted EPS. Please see our release and filings for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measure.

On today's call, Ramey will provide an overview of our business. Anselm will continue with the discussion of our financial results and 2025 guidance before Ramey shares some closing thoughts, and we open up the call for your questions. At this point, I will turn the call over to Ramey.

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Ramey Jackson
executive

Thank you, Sara, and good morning, everyone. Thank you all for joining us today. I'm pleased with our start to 2025 with results mostly in line with our expectations despite ongoing macroeconomic volatility. Our team continues to execute well in this challenging environment, maintaining our focus on operational excellence and disciplined capital allocation while positioning the business for long-term success. The strength of our business model has enabled us to navigate these headwinds effectively while continuing to invest in the future.

With that, let me start by highlighting a few key themes related to our first quarter results. First, despite ongoing market uncertainty, we're seeing growth in our backlog and continued stability in our pipeline. Second, we're making progress on our cost reduction plan, which is yielding tangible benefits. Third, we continue to demonstrate financial strength with robust cash generation and disciplined capital allocation. And finally, we believe we are well positioned to navigate the current tariff environment.

For the first quarter of 2025, we delivered revenue of $210.5 million, down 17.3% compared to first quarter of 2024. Total self-storage saw a decrease of 23.1% given the decline in volume associated with the uncertainty in the economic and interest rate environment. Our Commercial and Other sales channels saw a decrease of 1%, driven by a softness in rolling sheet door market, partially offset by contribution from our TMC acquisition completed last May. Our Noke smart entry system continues to gain traction in the market with 384,000 installed units at quarter end, representing sequential growth of 5.2%. We're excited about the momentum we're building in this business and see opportunities for further growth as customer adoption of Noke Ion continues in 2025.

While customers remain cautious about their liquidity and capital deployment in the current environment, we are confident in the underlying demand for self-storage solutions. The restructuring initiatives we implemented in 2024 are progressing well, with our structural cost reduction plan on track to deliver approximately $10 million to $12 million in annual pretax cost savings by the end of 2025. These actions are designed to improve margins, simplify our organizational structure and enhance our operational efficiencies.

From a financial standpoint, we continue to demonstrate the resilience of our business model. Our excellent cash flow generation and balance sheet have provided us the financial flexibility to make a voluntary prepayment of $40 million on our first lien term loan and repurchased 0.6 million shares for $5.1 million under our share repurchase program during the quarter.

At quarter end, we had $16.3 million remaining on our share repurchase authorization. I'd like to take a moment to address tariffs and the potential expense impacts to Janus. While the bulk of our steel and material inputs are sourced domestically, we do have some exposure to components sourced from areas that we expect will be impacted by tariffs. We have dual sources for many of our components, which, coupled with our inventory on hand allows us to mitigate much of our exposure to tariffs in 2025.

At this time, we estimate the total potential expense impact related to tariffs for 2025 to be in the low single-digit millions. At the current expected tariff rates beyond 2025, we estimate the potential ongoing annual impact to be in the range of $10 million to $12 million. We anticipate that our productivity and commercial actions will provide a mitigating effect against these impacts. As we look ahead, we remain confident in the long-term fundamentals of our business. We expect the self-storage industry to continue to benefit from strong underlying demand drivers and believe there is significant opportunity for our R3 business as consolidation across the self-storage industry, coupled with the average facility age exceeding 20 years, will lead customers focusing their capital allocation on existing properties.

As an industry leader in self-storage solutions, our strong balance sheet, exceptional cash flow generation and suite of innovative offerings positions us well to deliver attractive long-term shareholder value.

Now I'll turn the call over to Anselm for a detailed review of our financial results and updates to our 2025 guidance. Anselm?

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Anselm Wong
executive

Thanks, Ramey, and good morning, everyone. As Ramey highlighted, we continue to navigate a challenging macroeconomic environment and are pleased to deliver results that were largely in line with our expectations.

In the first quarter, consolidated revenue of $210.5 million was 17.3% lower as compared to the prior year quarter, with declines in all 3 sales channels. Together, our self-storage business was down 23.1%, new construction was down 25.5%, while R3 was up 19.3% for the quarter. The decline in revenues for new construction was almost entirely due to a decline in volume associated with macroeconomic uncertainty and sustained high interest rates impacting liquidity, causing some customers to adjust project timing.

The R3 decline was driven by a nearly 50% decrease in retail big box conversions and facility expansion activity, partially offset by increases in door replacement and renovation activity. For the quarter, the impact to organic revenues was driven roughly 10% by price and 90% by volume.

In the first quarter, the International segment saw total revenues increased by $6.5 million or 44.2% compared to prior year. The changes attributable to increased volumes as a result of normalizing local market conditions compared to prior year, which was negatively affected by the U.K. recessionary period starting late fiscal 2023 and impacting most of fiscal 2024. Due to the international businesses lower margin profile, this had a negative impact on the company's overall adjusted EBITDA margin.

Our Commercial and Other segment saw a 1% decline in the first quarter, driven by market softness for rolling sheet doors, largely offset by contribution from the TMC acquisition. First quarter adjusted EBITDA of $38.4 million was down 42.1% compared to the first quarter of 2024. This resulted in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.2%, a decrease of approximately 790 basis points from the prior year period. The decrease in profitability was due to lower volumes impacting our ability to leverage fixed costs as well as the impact of geographic segment and sales channel mix.

In the quarter, we realized approximately $1.5 million in savings associated with the previously announced cost reduction program, and we expect to realize approximately $10 million to $12 million in annual pretax cost savings by end of 2025. For the first quarter, we produced adjusted net income of $17.7 million, a decrease of 51.6% from the prior year and adjusted EPS of $0.13. We generated cash from operating activities of $48.3 million and free cash flow of $41.9 million in the quarter. On a trailing 12-month basis, this represents a free cash flow conversion of adjusted net income of [ 170% ].

Capital expenditures in the quarter were $6.4 million. We finished the quarter with $217.1 million in total liquidity, including $140.8 million of cash and closes on the balance sheet. Our total outstanding long-term debt at quarter end was $557 million, and net leverage was 2.3x, well within our target range of 2 to 3x. Aided by our strong balance sheet and cash position to start the year and consistent with our capital allocation priorities during the quarter, we repurchased 0.6 million shares for $5.1 million as part of our $100 million share repurchase program.

At quarter end, the company had $16.3 million remaining on its share repurchase authorization. We also made a voluntary prepayment of $40 million on our first lien term loan which will lower our overall interest expense for the year by an estimated $2.2 million. The annualized impact is expected to be $2.7 million.

Now moving to our 2025 guidance. Based on our first quarter results, current visibility into our end markets and current expectations of the direct impacts from tariffs, we are reaffirming our full year guidance for revenues and adjusted EBITDA. We continue to expect revenues to be in the range of $860 million to $890 million and adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $175 million to $195 million, reflecting an adjusted EBITDA margin of 21.1% at the midpoint.

As we look at the cadence of results for the year, we reiterate our expectation for results to strengthen in the back half of 2025. Additionally, as the year progresses, we expect our customers to begin shifting their focus towards our 3 initiatives as facility owners focus more on optimizing and upgrading existing properties over new construction.

As a reminder, the margin profiles for new construction in R3 are similar. So we are agnostic about moves between the 2 sales channels. New construction is expected to remain soft in the first half of the year as we work through customers extended project time lines. We continue to anticipate being near the higher end of the free cash flow conversion of adjusted net income target range of 75% to 100% in 2025. Please refer to the presentation we have posted for additional details on our key planning assumptions for 2025.

Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Ramey for his closing remarks. Ramey?

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Ramey Jackson
executive

Thank you again, Anselm. Despite the challenges we faced in the first quarter, I'm encouraged by the positive signals we're seeing in our business, including growth in our backlog and the continued stability of our pipeline. While the broader market environment remains in flux, our strong balance sheet, cash flow generation gives us significant flexibility and optionality to continue investing in our business while seeking out and delivering accretive shareholder value-enhancing opportunities. The strategic alignment resilience of our business model are reflected in our reaffirmed 2025 guidance.

We believe we're well positioned to deliver long-term value for all stakeholders. A big thank you to our employees, customers and shareholders for your continued support. Again, thank you for joining us. Operator, we can now open up the lines for Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

We'll take our first question from Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc.

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Jeffrey Hammond
analyst

So just listening to the public self-storage REITs, it seems like fundamentals are stabilizing or maybe moving a little off the bottom. I know rates are still stubborn. But just wondering, one, what's the latest that you're seeing on kind of the pacing of some of these project delays starting to break free and move through the backlog? And two, just how would you characterize order activity in the pipeline behind it?

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Anselm Wong
executive

Yes, great question, Jeff. We're seeing the movement we saw in Q4 that projects are moving in the pipeline. Unfortunately, still some of the stubborn rates that you mentioned. In terms of the pipeline, in backlog, we're seeing just a steady small growth in that in both of those categories as well. I think pretty good indication that stuff is moving.

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Ramey Jackson
executive

Yes. Just to add to that, Jeff, there's no question we're looking at kind of the churn rates kind of pre-pandemic around 300 days. They're currently sitting around 500 days. So there's no question that it's maintained, it's been pushed out and seems to be fairly consistent moving forward.

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Jeffrey Hammond
analyst

And just pipeline? .

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Ramey Jackson
executive

Yes. Both orders and pipeline have been on an uptick since the beginning of the year. Super happy with where we are there, and it continues to grow.

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Jeffrey Hammond
analyst

Okay. And then just on -- I appreciate the color on tariffs. Just on price. I think in your guide, you're originally saying, I think, price down high single digits. It was only 2% down in 1Q. And then I'm assuming you're probably seeing some steel inflation, some of the tariff inflation. So I'm just wondering how are you thinking about price downs relative to 90 days ago? And then just is the offset lower volumes or maybe that's an upside situation? .

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Anselm Wong
executive

Yes. No. Jeff, if you think about the pricing when we get any use for the full year, and we said it would blend into the year as we bleed off some of the older projects and in some of the newer ones. So that's why Q1 wasn't as impacted as much from a pricing point of view.

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Jeffrey Hammond
analyst

Okay. And then just real quick on the tariff number. Just help me understand the low single-digit million this year versus the $10 million to $12 million kind of on a full year run rate.

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Anselm Wong
executive

Yes. If you think about it, like we have -- as you know, how we buy inventory, we have a decent amount of inventory already for the year. So it's not as getting a full year impact for that. So when we actually look at kind of our inventory positions as well as some are mitigating actions, that's kind of how we got down to a much smaller impact for 2025.

And if you look into next year on an annualized basis, that $12-ish million there is if there's no mitigation actions at all. And obviously, with our normal process in terms of sourcing things, we're currently looking at renegotiating some of those items as well as looking at other sources in addition to just general productivity to mitigate that for 2026.

Operator

We'll go next to Phil Ng with Jefferies.

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Philip Ng
analyst

I guess, follow up on that question on pricing. Certainly better than expected, maybe that's timing and that's just kind of kicking a little more fully in the coming quarters. But help us kind of think through what you're seeing on the pricing front. Certainly, steel prices have moved up. You have some levels hedging, maybe that's helpful. But is that an opportunity for pricing to get better perhaps in the back half or maybe an opportunity to kind of pick up some share just given your competitors, your smaller competitors are probably a little less equipped to kind of navigate through some of the supply challenges and certainly tariffs as well?

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Anselm Wong
executive

Yes. So great question, Phil. I think if you look at it from a price [indiscernible], there's a bit of timing like you said. That's why the impact is not as much. I think if you look at steel, I think the suppliers have tried to kind of raise the price. And I think ultimately, it's going to be dictated by real demand and the demand hasn't been there and that's why you see it could fall back to a lower level than what the initial indication is.

So it will look like we've always said about with our steel, we've got a good process, how we buy it. And we're managing -- if it does step up at the end of the year, we have the ability to put in commercial actions to mitigate if we need to.

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Philip Ng
analyst

Okay. That's great color. And then on the R3 side of things, a few things, right? I mean the retail conversions has been a drag. When does that comp out? And then I think, Ramey, your comments suggested that as some of your customers are pivoting from new construction to R3. Any like real tangible signs that's going to come through in the back half or later this year just based on orders and bidding? And how does that kind of ripple through? And any color on some of the rebranding efforts that's out there from some of your larger institutional customers?

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Anselm Wong
executive

Yes. So we're -- you're right. I think it's getting really low, the retail conversion piece of it. We've always said that there will always be some amount of it. But you're right, it's -- that's kind of why you saw the slow the negative in terms of R3 slow up much better this quarter. And what I would expect going forward is that it'll be at a steady state there. There's a retail version. I think Ramey probably just can address the other question in terms of kind of what we're seeing. But I can tell you, when we're looking at our backlog right now, we're starting to see incremental increases in that R3 piece where our [indiscernible] are starting to put more projects of R3 and [indiscernible], becoming very sizeable, but we're starting to see that starting to increase.

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Ramey Jackson
executive

Yes. Just a follow-up, specifically on the rebranding. That opportunity is well underway. We are obviously partnering with our customers to accommodate that. And so that's -- you've heard me talk about that. That's a multiyear opportunity, specifically on the large 1 that we -- that you know of. And to Anselm's point, we're seeing others more institutional operators accelerate that way of remix, full renovations, a little bit of expansion and then office upgrades.

So that's been a pleasant surprise in terms of the way that they're allocating capital. But I will say on the noninstitutional side of the business, they're pretty much on the sidelines from any CapEx expenditure at this time.

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Philip Ng
analyst

And Ramey, any color on how this kind of progresses and ramps up? Backlog is getting better on R3. But how does that kind of ripple through? Did that dial-up in the back half? Or this is more of a '26 event?

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Ramey Jackson
executive

No, it does. It certainly dials up in the back half. As you know, these are projects that we've been working on for a while, have great visibility the way the R3 program works. I mean there's touch points all throughout the process. And so we're super comfortable with the timing because we play a big part in that in terms of tenant notification and just the project management side of it. So our expectation is it will certainly accelerate in the second half.

Operator

We'll go next to Dan Moore with CJS Securities.

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Unknown Analyst

This is Will on for Dan. Last quarter, you started see signs of stabilization in commercial. Has that continued or is tariff and economic uncertainty impacted that momentum?

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Ramey Jackson
executive

Yes. It certainly has stabilized. We're seeing some growth in certain product lines, some opportunity in the car port and shed. As we've previously announced, we're positioned a door center kind of in the hub of where that product line is manufactured. So we're taking aggressive steps to gain share there. I would say the only thing that is relatively flat, and it kind of came through in our numbers this quarter would be the commercial sheet door, which is typically -- its application is in metal buildings.

So as you probably know, that sector is depressed, I would say, probably at a bottom right now. So any movement upward, we'll certainly get the benefit of that moving forward.

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Unknown Analyst

And then in self storage, a lot of small and midsized customers started doing projects those a year ago. Are those projects that have been on the shelf for 6 to 9 months or longer, are you starting to see more cancellations? Or conversely, are you starting to see more start to move forward?

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Ramey Jackson
executive

Yes, we're starting to see more starts move forward. That's the best way to think about it. In terms of cancellations, we haven't seen anything out of the ordinary from cancellations of the backlog.

Operator

We'll go next to John Lovallo with UBS.

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John Lovallo
analyst

The $10 million to $12 million of pretax cost savings from structural cost reduction still remains in place. You guys realized about $1.5 million in the first quarter. How should we sort of think of the cadence of those savings through the year? And what are some of the projects that are going to allow you to kind of drive those savings?

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Anselm Wong
executive

Sure. Thanks for the question, John. If you think about the cadence, we should probably be at a full rate at the end of Q2 for those savings. There are various items obviously in our cost goods sold in terms of resetting our labor force for the volume that we're delivering and then also in our G&A line that we did in some leases that we no longer need it. So it's on pace there and there's opportunity for incremental that we're seeing as we work through them as well.

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John Lovallo
analyst

Got it. And then on the Noke installed units, 384,000 and I think that was up about 5% sequentially, which is good, but it seems like the growth has kind of moderated a bit over the past few quarters. How are you kind of thinking about it through the remainder of the year and sort of the longer-term adoption?

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Anselm Wong
executive

Yes. I think it's still going pretty strong for the new product Noke Ion. I think as we always talked about is as the installed base gets bigger, then obviously, the sequential growth is going to get a bit small because we've got a much larger base. But I think we're still bullish on the opportunity for the rest of the year and going into next year because the new product is really hitting a lot of the expectation what the customer looking for.

Operator

This does conclude today's question-and-answer session. I will now turn the program back over to Ramey for any additional or closing remarks.

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Ramey Jackson
executive

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your support of Janus International and look forward to updating you on our progress. Have a great day.

Operator

This does conclude today's program. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at any time.

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