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Updated: Apr 26, 2024

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Summary
Q2-2024

Company Anticipates Revenue Growth & Margin Recovery

The company projects revenue to modestly increase in Q3 and substantially in Q4, with this trend carrying into fiscal 2025 and 2026. Gross margin suffered due to low volume impacting overhead recovery, resulting in a consistent 6% for two quarters. Cost control led to the lowest SG&A expense since fiscal Q1 2014 at $15.7 million, down from $17.1 million. The company reported a quarterly net loss of $2.9 million, similar to Q1's loss of $3.2 million despite a decrease in revenue. However, liquidity improved by $26 million due to net cash inflows of $30 million, allowing repayment of all credit facility borrowings and increasing cash by $20 million. The forecast includes improved cash flow and liquidity, full overhead recovery in Q4, and a strategic focus meant to generate shareholder value.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2024-Q2

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Matrix Service Company Conference Call to discuss results for the second quarter of fiscal 2024. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host today, Ms. Kellie Smythe, Senior Director of Investor Relations for Matrix Service Company.

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Kellie Smythe
executive

Thank you, Valerie. Good morning, and welcome to Matrix Service Company's Second Quarter Fiscal 2024 Earnings Call. Participants on today's call will include John Hewitt, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Kevin Cavanah, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. The presentation materials we will be referring to during the webcast today can be found under Events and Presentations on the Investor Relations section of matrixservicecompany.com.

Before we begin, please let me remind you that on today's call, we may make various remarks about future expectations, plans and prospects for Matrix Service Company that constitute forward-looking statements for the purposes of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements because of various factors, including those discussed in our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K and in subsequent filings made by the company with the SEC. To the extent we utilize non-GAAP measures, reconciliations will be provided in various press releases, periodic SEC filings and on our website.

Before I turn the call over to John Hewitt, I'd like to share that Matrix will be presenting at the upcoming Sidoti Small-Cap Virtual Conference on March 13th and 14th. If you'd like additional information on this event or would like to have a conversation with management, I invite you to contact me through Matrix Service Company Investor Relations website.

I'll now turn the call over to John.

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John Hewitt
executive

Thank you, Kellie, and good morning, everyone. When we think about the safety risks present in the construction industry, we often think about the physical risks to people, but there are equally significant risks that have to do with mental health and well-being. Mental health issues arise for a variety of reasons: loneliness, high-pressure work environments, seasonal layoffs, loss of a family member or friend and can manifest in different ways, including loneliness, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts and substance abuse.

The construction industry has one of the highest suicide rates of any industry, but when compared to all other construction fatalities, suicide occurs 5 times or often. This is why the construction industry has taken a collaborative approach to better understand mental health issues by providing research-based solutions.

Through our participation in the Construction Industry Institute and Construction Safety Research Alliance, Matrix is directly involved in this effort. Matrix is also committed to doing all we can across our job sites and office locations, and we're doing so through a cross-functional internal initiative, Matrix Cares. We believe that together, we can make a difference for our own employees and others across our industry. And I believe that mental and physical safety of our employees as well as those visiting in our offices or job sites, is the most important thing we can do as coworkers and leaders.

Now let's talk about the business. I'm proud to announce that with awards of [ $233 ] million in the quarter, we have achieved a record backlog for Matrix of $1.45 billion. This is an all-time high for the company in its 40-year history and is an achievement that is a result of the hard work of our people and our focused strategic approach in our core markets.

We have transformed our organization to be more cost efficient while ensuring our skills, expertise and strong brand, are aligned with our core markets. We are positioned to safely execute projects with improved operating processes while continuing to deliver best-in-class quality for our customers.

As you will see when Kevin walks through our results, Matrix has resolved the primary issues that have plagued us the last few years. We have completed projects that were bid into highly competitive pandemic environment, which resulted in limited margin opportunity. We also streamlined and refocused the company, restored our direct gross margins to our historical double-digit range, rebuild our backlog to historic levels to support higher revenue volumes in the coming quarters and improved our liquidity position and reduced our debt to 0.

The dramatic improvement in both the volume and quality of the projects in our backlog, we expect revenue volume to grow and as such, leverage our streamlined cost structure, which will resolve our final issue.

Now I want to spend a few minutes on our work in the energy markets. Recently, President Biden paused pending and future permits to export LNG to the non-free trade agreement countries. Generally, we do not expect this pause to impact our opportunity pipeline or backlog. Small to mid-scale LNG facilities we have won and are pursuing are domestic in nature, providing backup fuel supply, peak shaving or ship bunkering. Any LNG tank projects that are related to large-scale export facilities that might be associated with the current White House permit position are more of an opportunistic pursuit for Matrix.

We have significant opportunities in the small- to mid-scale LNG market, I just described as well as NGLs, ammonia and hydrogen and expect these opportunity to continue contributing to backlog.

While the transition to a low carbon energy mix has been a focus on global energy policy, the world is still heavily dependent on fossil fuel and will be, for the foreseeable future. At the same time, energy companies are actively at work developing longer-term, more sustainable energy solutions.

For Matrix, our expertise in both the traditional and emerging energy markets, together with our long-standing reputation for safe, quality delivery positions us as a leading contractor across the entire industry and puts us in an advantageous position.

Our opportunity pipeline remains steady at $5 billion, demonstrating the strength of our markets and our ability to continue our long-term trend of backlog growth. We remain a contractor of choice for work in traditional oil and gas, including the engineering and construction of crude storage tanks, terminals, ongoing maintenance and repair work, refinery turnarounds, retrofitting for renewable fuels and the insulation of natural gas processing infrastructure.

With increasing use of LNG as a low-carbon solution for ensuring reliable and affordable power for electricity, heating and cooling, and also an alternative fuel for high horsepower applications, Matrix has emerged as a leader in the design, construction, maintenance and repair of LNG storage tanks and balance of plant facilities.

Major energy companies also rely on us for NGL storage tanks, terminals, such as ethane, ethylene, propane and butane that feed the global marketplace because of our country's vast, safe and dependable natural gas availability.

Looking forward, the transition to sustainable energy is a broad initiative that will include, among others, hydrogen. This is a market that, while not presently a significant revenue driver for us, will be as we assume a major leadership role in fulfilling the significant infrastructure needs that will evolve.

[ This discretion ] of a strong -- of our strong market position in LNG was made possible because of our specialty vessel cryogenic capabilities, the hydrogen market requires these same specialized skill sets. It is not a market that will develop overnight, nor is it one that any contractor you can simply step into, once it's developed.

Same is true for ammonia and methanol as the energy carriers and a mean to transporting hydrogen. Drawing on our extensive cryogenic engineering and construction expertise, Matrix is already a work laying the foundation needed to ensure we are at the forefront in providing the needed solutions in this space.

For example, we have completed construction of a hydrogen sphere in the Southwestern U.S. and are beginning the engineering for our liquid hydrogen storage sphere for a client on the West Coast, which we will also construct.

We're also actively at work on a FEED study for our hydrogen production and distribution facility and working on a feasibility study for a global energy company to develop large-scale liquid hydrogen storage solutions. With an increasing number of hydrogen and ammonia opportunities internationally, we are building strategic relationships with construction organizations like the recently announced [indiscernible] Industries and other European partners, which provide the ability to offer complete EPC solutions across the European Union, United Kingdom, Norway, Switzerland and elsewhere.

As shared last quarter, we are in communication with several of our long-standing clients, who are also part of the hydrogen hub teams identified to receive funding under the bipartisan infrastructure law. Of course, we continue to be active in our other end markets with robust opportunities and growth potential across each of our reporting segments. As I've said before, our organization has been meaningfully transformed over the past few years, and that transformation is showing up on our performance.

We continue to fine-tune the organization and are investing in the technology, systems and personnel needed to execute our strategy and grow the business.

Now I'll hand the call over to Kevin to review the results.

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Kevin Cavanah
executive

Thank you, John. The overall results for the second quarter were in line with our expectations. While revenue was a bit lower than expected, direct margin performance, cost management, bottom line performance, backlog and liquidity are all at or above our expectations.

We generated awards of $231 million, resulting in a book-to-bill ratio of 1.3, our 10th consecutive quarter at or above 1.0. With these awards, we have increased our backlog to $1.45 billion, the highest in company history. Backlog has increased 95% in the last year and 33% in the first half of fiscal 2024.

Revenue of $175 million in the second quarter was on the lower side of our range of expectations. The decline compared to first quarter revenue of $198 million related primarily to the normal timing of project execution on storage construction projects with the first quarter benefiting from a high level of project procurement.

As I mentioned last quarter, our backlog contains larger long-term construction projects. There is an inherent lag between the time when a project is awarded and when it begins to have a material impact on revenue. In some cases, this lag can be between 3 and 6 months or longer. The contribution to revenue from these projects has been minimal thus far, as each moves through scope finalization, engineering and planning stages at its own pace.

We expect revenue from these projects to increase modestly in the third quarter and then pick up meaningfully in the fourth quarter and remain at elevated levels throughout fiscal 2025 and 2026. In the meantime, we are encouraged that direct gross margins return to historical double-digit levels in the first half of 2024.

Project execution was strong once again, but was offset by under-recovered construction overhead resulting from the low revenue volume that impacted gross margins by almost 500 basis points. The result was a gross margin of 6%, which was consistent with the first quarter.

We expect to see improved overhead recovery in the third quarter and to achieve full recovery in the fourth quarter as a result of the revenue ramp we previously discussed. Organizational efficiencies achieved over the last several years continue to benefit our cost structure.

Consolidated SG&A expenses were $15.7 million in the second quarter, which is the lowest level since our first quarter of fiscal 2014. This compares to $17.1 million in the first quarter. The decrease in the second quarter was primarily attributable to a reduction and expense associated with the variable accounting or cash settled stock compensation and lower project pursuit costs.

The company will continue to control costs in order to leverage SG&A and expects to see modest targeted increases to support revenue growth as the year progresses.

Other income during the second quarter included a gain of $2 million on a $2.7 million sale of a facility in Catoosa, Oklahoma. The facility was previously utilized for our industrial cleaning business, which was sold during the fourth quarter of fiscal 2023. This completes the divestiture and closure of noncore service offerings as part of our strategy to focus the business on our core markets.

As expected, the effective tax rate was near 0 for the second quarter, and we expect the effective tax rate to be around 0 throughout the remainder of fiscal 2024.

For the second quarter of fiscal 2024, we had a net loss of $2.9 million or $0.10 per fully diluted share, which was similar to the net loss of $3.2 million or $0.12 per share in the first quarter.

Moving to the operating segments. In the Storage and Terminal Solutions segment, revenue was $62 million in the second quarter as compared to $90 million in the first quarter of fiscal 2024. First quarter revenues for this segment were positively impacted by the procurement of materials and components for construction projects awarded in the prior fiscal year. We did not have a similar level of procurement in the second quarter.

We expect higher revenue volume as we move through the remainder of fiscal 2024 and into fiscal 2025 as large specialty storage project awards transition through contracting, project planning and mobilization and into field construction.

Gross margin was 2.9% in the second quarter as strong project execution was negatively impacted by 770 basis points from the under recovery of construction overhead costs due to the lower revenue. We have allocated additional resources to this segment to support recent awards, a significant opportunity proposal pipeline and the related additional revenue that we expect in the coming quarters.

With revenue increases in this segment, we expect to reach full recovery of construction overhead costs in the fourth quarter. In the Utility and Power Infrastructure segment, revenue was $40 million in the second quarter compared to $32 million in the first quarter as revenue begins to benefit from peak shaver projects previously awarded. We expect LNG peak shaving revenue to continue to increase as we move through the second half of fiscal 2024.

Gross margin was 3.5% in the second quarter of fiscal 2024, as good project execution in this segment was offset by almost 600 basis points from under recovery of construction overhead costs. We have allocated additional resources to this segment as well to support recent awards, a strong bidding environment and related anticipated revenue growth. As revenue continues to increase in this segment, we expect to reach full recovery of our overhead costs in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024.

And finally, in the Process and Industrial Facilities segment. Second quarter revenue was $71 million, which was slightly lower than the $75 million in the first quarter. We expect revenue to remain at a similar level as we move through the remainder of fiscal 2024 and then increase in fiscal 2025 related to previously awarded construction work.

The segment gross margin was 9.4% in the second quarter compared to 6.8% in the first quarter. With project execution strong in both quarters, we also reduced construction rate costs in the second quarter by allocating resources to other segments, as I noted previously.

Now let's discuss our financial position. Liquidity increased to $106 million, an improvement of $26 million in the quarter. Positive net cash inflows of $30 million from operations allowed the company to repay all outstanding borrowings on our credit facility of $10 million and increased our cash balance by $20 million.

We expect to see cash and liquidity also improve in the second half of fiscal 2024. We will continue to proactively manage the balance sheet to support the improving business and believe we have the liquidity to support our financial needs, including funding working capital for the normal spring peak and reimbursable work funding construction projects that are in a prepaid position and targeted capital expenditures to support operations.

As we move forward and continue to strengthen our balance sheet, we will evaluate our approach to capital allocation to ensure we are creating value for our shareholders. That concludes my prepared comments.

So I'll now turn the call back to John.

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John Hewitt
executive

Thank you, Kevin. Before we open for questions, I'd like to reiterate some key takeaways for today. First, with record high backlog, we expect to see a marked improvement in revenue volumes in the near term. Those higher revenue volumes will provide for better construction overhead absorption, leverage of SG&A and improve bottom line performance.

Though it's difficult in our business to accurately predict the timing of awards, starts and backlog conversion to revenue, we are highly confident in this outlook. Second, we believe our strategic approach to our strong end markets, clients and services to help us maintain a sizable opportunity pipeline and lead to further backlog growth and strong performance well into the future.

Third, organizationally, we are leaner and more efficient. We will continue to invest in the process and systems and people needed to drive performance improvement and deliver strong project execution.

In conclusion, there is a lot of positive momentum in the business, and we are well positioned to maximize our profitability and generate value and growth for our stakeholders.

I'd like to open the call for questions, and I'll come back to you for some closing thoughts.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of John Franzreb of Sidoti & Company.

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John Franzreb
analyst

I'd like to start with the gross margin profile in the second quarter. Considering how much revenue was down and you look at it versus a year ago, it was sizably better. How much reflects the absence of unprofitable jobs and how much reflects new jobs that have priced appropriately in that mix? Can you give us a sense of what drove the margin in the quarter?

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Kevin Cavanah
executive

So as I talked about on the call, the direct gross margins in the quarter were strong back in the double-digit area that we've been striving to get to, that's the result of the quality of bookings that we've had over the last 1 year, 1.5 years. If you look at the same period last year, the direct margins were extremely low, low single digits and that was because of the combination.

We were still working off the COVID backlog. We were still continuing to work on a project that was very difficult for us to complete in a profitable manner. So when you look at the margin performance quarter-over-quarter, it's an extremely big improvement. I don't have the split between what's related to new projects versus the old, but it's sufficed to say, the margin performance is back where we needed to be on these projects. Now what's left is to get the revenue volume up to where we want it, so we can fully recover our construction overhead.

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John Franzreb
analyst

And Kevin, just for clarity sake, what's your definition of direct gross margins?

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Kevin Cavanah
executive

So when I think about direct gross margins, it's the actual margin that I'm earning on each individual job. And when I think about gross margin, it's the combination of those direct margins on jobs, combined with the recovery of our construction overhead, pool of cost that we utilize to manage all those projects. So when we get to a period where we've got the right volume, we're fully recovering those overheads.

And therefore, the direct gross margin is fairly equal to the gross margin. In a period where our revenue volume is low and we're not fully recovering, that under-recovery can have a very significant impact on our margins as it did this quarter, almost 600 basis points. So that's something that's extremely important for us to manage, and it's the one item that John noted in his comments that we've still got to finish getting that completed. We've completed everything else, we're just going to get that strong backlog we booked the last year-plus to convert to revenue, which we think is coming.

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John Franzreb
analyst

And John, regarding the award cycle, what innings do you think you're in? Is it unreasonable to assume that you can persist at the current rate of awards?

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John Hewitt
executive

No, I don't think that's unreasonable. I mean the again, timing is everything. And whether order, quarter after quarter it's going to be above 1 or not but we certainly think we're in a position to exit the year with 1-plus on awards in our book-to-bill and projects that are in our pipeline -- a variety of sizes that we think we'll continue to contribute to backlog well out in the future. So we think we're in early innings in our ability to continue to add [indiscernible] good projects to backlog and continue to build and grow the business.

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John Franzreb
analyst

Okay. Got it. That sounds great. And one last question. If I heard correctly in the prepared remarks, it sounded like that the revenue outlook is strong through fiscal 2026 based on the current bookings profile that doesn't assume any incremental new awards, is that the proper understanding?

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Kevin Cavanah
executive

Well, so we always have a portion of our revenue that's we'll call [ buckle ] and burn that we'll get awarded and we'll burn it off in the next quarter or 2. And then we have the larger projects that are -- have a 2.5-, 3-year construction period. So when we make comments like that, with these larger projects, we've added the backlog, we've got much better visibility into the total revenue stream for '25 and '26 that gives us the confidence to make that statement.

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John Hewitt
executive

But if I add on to that, John, I would say the backlog in place now helps us lay a foundation for the future and then overlay what we see in the opportunity pipeline gives us confidence that we're going to be able to have a strong revenue stream here out over the next couple of years.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jean Ramirez of D.A. Davidson.

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Jean Paul Ramirez
analyst

This is Jean Ramirez for Brent Tielman at D.A. Davidson. I'll start with the revenue question. Should we see some revenue progression from fiscal quarter -- from the second fiscal quarter to the third? It seems like this should be sort of a trough revenue given the hassle backlog today?

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Kevin Cavanah
executive

Yes, we would agree with that. I think this will be the low point of the fiscal year. You'll see some decent growth here in the third quarter and then should be higher growth in the fourth.

J
Jean Paul Ramirez
analyst

Okay. Just any views on the refinery turnaround season and activities you performed there? Just wanted to see is it better or worse relative to the past few years?

J
John Hewitt
executive

[indiscernible] we're entering our refinery turnaround cycle, basically now we're sort of in it. [ Majority ] of our refinery turnaround work is located in the Pacific Northwest. And I don't know if there's anything unusual this year versus last year. I would say, I'd probably pointed as sort of an average turnaround cycle for us in the facilities that we work.

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Jean Paul Ramirez
analyst

And one more question. So you mentioned some favorable direct margins, are those continuing to get better with New York -- with the work awarded in New York? Or I guess, in other words, do the bid margins keep moving higher because the market is so busy right now?

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Kevin Cavanah
executive

I think what I would -- the way I would look at it is, when we look at the margin performance in the first half of fiscal 2024, we've had some good project closeouts on completing some projects that have moved that margin up really overall strong execution by our field that has helped that. I think that will be replaced by the quality backlog that we've got.

Those projects should lend themselves to a similar level of margin. So I wouldn't expect but we'll continue to strive to maximize the direct margin performance. But I wouldn't expect direct margins to go significantly higher than our -- the 10% to 12% range that we've talked about being the normal range of the business.

And you also need to remember that 30%, 40% of our business is reimbursable and a lot of maintenance activities, that type of work, really good work for us. But it lends itself to a lower margin profile. So instead of double-digit margins were in the high single digits for that type of work.

Operator

Looks like we have a question from John Franzreb, Sidoti.

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John Franzreb
analyst

John, just back to the hydrogen discussion. I might have missed this. You said it was small, but put in context how much business you do in the hydrogen market, what do you think maybe the potential is and the time line for realizing that kind of potential?

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John Hewitt
executive

So I think, obviously, it's about how fast the [indiscernible] U.S. transitions to a higher percentage of hydrogen in the energy mix. I think we feel pretty comfortable long term that hydrogen will take a larger position in the U.S. energy mix, whether that's for certainly in industrial processes, but for -- say a fuel for transportation fuel and for some kind of a mix or blending for power generation.

So I think what you're seeing and what we're seeing right now is a lot of kind of foundation for us, laying the foundation for that future. We're a lot of time spend on marketing, time spent on providing feasibility on FEED studies to various clients to help them with their decision-making profile on what their next steps are, picking up an occasional story sphere or an occasional maybe smaller hydrogen processing facility.

So I think it's going to continue to grow for us. So -- but I think we're probably a couple of years away from hydrogen, from a material impact on our backlog and revenues from hydrogen. That said, I would expect here over the next 12 to 18 months that we'll continue to add small hydrogen-related projects into our backlog and that should continue to grow over the subsequent years.

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John Franzreb
analyst

Understood. And just a little bit about the leverage discussion. Kevin, you suggested that the second quarter SG&A was artificially low due to the timing of, I guess, bonus accruals and other items. But you also said that you expect to leverage the SG&A line rather significantly in the year ahead. So how should we think about SG&A on a go-forward basis? Similar to maybe the first quarter with marginal increase? Just any color on that line would be helpful.

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Kevin Cavanah
executive

I think the second half SG&A will probably be higher than the first half was. The variable accounting on cash settled stock-based compensation, will have a higher expense. We also anticipate increased project pursuit costs as we continue to work to build the backlog and then just some other targeted increases that will need just for the added revenue volume that comes. The way I think about SG&A is we've got a target out there we're trying to get to get the SG&A to 6.5%.

I think we'll make a significant move towards that and especially in the fourth quarter. I'm not sure we'll get all the way there, but we can definitely get much closer or hopefully, get to 7% or lower. And then I think that's an achievable mark in fiscal '25.

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John Franzreb
analyst

And when you talked about asset relocations, just talk about moving guys from personnel from process into utility and stores, not adding additional personnel, am I understanding that properly?

K
Kevin Cavanah
executive

Yes, there's really 2 aspects of the construction overhead. So first of all, when we talk about reallocating resources, we've talked about the fact that our staffs can work in multiple segments. And if you look at the volume of revenue that was flowing through the Process and Industrial Facilities segment last year, it's definitely a higher percentage that we completed some of that work, and I mentioned that we're kind of in a long period here before additional work kicks in.

So those resources are being allocated toward the other 2 segments, and I wanted to try to put a little more color on those resources, what those are, that's all the project management, the quality and the safety, all that infrastructure we have in place to execute the projects, we'll be more focused on those other 2 segments in the second half of the year than they were in, say, the prior year.

J
John Franzreb
analyst

Okay. And just lastly, on the long-term financial targets, any kind of update when we would expect to realize those targets? Is that an exit philosophy that aims at 2025? Or what are your thoughts there?

K
Kevin Cavanah
executive

I think, again, it's similar probably to the answer on SG&A. I think you can see significant movement toward those targets at the -- in the fourth quarter. Will we get there all the way. I'm not sure about that, but I do think those are achievable in fiscal '25.

Operator

It looks like we have follow-up questions from the line of Jean Ramirez of D.A. Davidson.

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Jean Paul Ramirez
analyst

Just thinking about CapEx. Can you give us a sense of how we should be modeling CapEx for the year or the next couple of years? Just should we think of the -- is it tied to revenue growth, assuming there's some cost to support over this growth, right?

K
Kevin Cavanah
executive

It is tied to revenue growth, and it's also tied to the fact that as we've been trying to control costs the last few years, we've held our capital expending pretty low. So I'd expect it to increase. We've put a long-term target out there, it's 1.5% of revenue. I think we'd probably be around that level for the second half of the year or potentially a little higher as we kind of almost ramp up some of that CapEx for the revenue volumes that are coming. And I haven't -- don't have a fiscal '25 CapEx, but at this point, but I would expect we'd probably be at least at the 1.5% next year or potentially a little higher.

J
Jean Paul Ramirez
analyst

And for fiscal year '25, when you say a little higher, is that compared to the second half of the fiscal year '24 or just in general, a little higher than 1.5%?

K
Kevin Cavanah
executive

I'm talking a little higher as a percent of revenue. So when I talk about the 1.5% of revenue, it could be 1.8% or 2%. But again, I don't have a developed CapEx forecast yet. I've just anticipating that there will be needs for portions of the business that are growing.

Operator

I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to John Hewitt for any closing remarks.

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John Hewitt
executive

I want to thank everybody for being on the call today. I hope it's clear that there are a lot of great things happening in the business and that we are positioned for significantly improved bottom line profitability as we look out into the short term here. So thank you very much for your time today, and everybody, please be safe.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.

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