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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q1

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Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the St Barbara FY '23 Q1 September Quarterly Report and Presentation. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Craig Jetson, Managing Director and CEO. Please go ahead.

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Craig Jetson
executive

Thank you, Melanie, and good morning, everybody, and thank you for joining us for St Barbara's Q1 FY '23 quarter report briefing. I am pleased to join this call from Perth, the land of Whadjuk as the Noongar people. Please note the disclaimers on Slide 2. I would like to begin by recognizing the traditional owners and First Nations people of the lands on which St Barbara operates in Australia, Canada, Papua New Guinea, and pay my respects to elders past, present and emerging.

Moving on to safety as that remains our #1 commitment. So it's disappointing to see an increase in our TRIFR during this quarter. We are working hard to ameliorate this on a number of fronts. Across the group, we are creating a deeper focus on safety, leveraging October as a safety month. All sites are extending the Safety Always program to frontline workers commencing with the Leonora operations. In addition, we have defined and commenced simplification of key elements of our safety system and coaching leaders for improvement. In terms of moving on to highlights in quarter 1, we produced 64,000 ounces of gold this quarter at an all-in sustaining cost of $2,490 per ounce. Simberi and Atlantic performed as expected. However, we had lower-than-expected performance from Leonora. Our costs on a per ounce basis were above expectations as a result of the lower production tentatively driving from Leonora. We have progressed our Leonora province plant studies. This has allowed us to release today an inaugural Tower Hill open pit reserve of 560,000 ounces. This increases our strong reserve base in the region to 3.1 million ounces.

At Simberi, the mining studies we were conducting as part of the strategic review, have identified additional oxide material, which has the potential to extend the oxide ore mining through FY '25. As a result, no decision on the sulfide project is required for the next 12 months. The strategic review is continuing, and we remain in discussions with interested parties. We believe the decision to delay the Sulfide Project is a prudent one given the additional oxide ore that ensures business continuity in an economic environment, which makes project execution risky. Papua New Guinea is, of course, not experienced in its environment in isolation. Western Australia also is in an economic environment, characterized by supply shortages for equipment, parts and labor.

As such, we've elected to defer capital projects in Leonora which have not already commenced or do not bring immediate value. We will, therefore, defer the refractory upgrade to Leonora mill, the 2.1 million tonne plant expansion and the construction of Aphrodite by at least 12 months. This in essence will defer a total of $180 million of capital spend in Leonora by 12 months. We are, of course, continuing to surge ahead with the development of Zoroastrian, which remains on track for Q1 FY '24. This enables us to fill the mill next year and sooner than we first thought. St Barbara continues to investigate larger-scale free milling options to gain benefits of scale from the Gwalia and Tower Hill, while freeing up Leonora processing facility with refractory ore treatment. Finally, we are adjusting our full year guidance to reflect on what I've outlined above.

Our guidance from Leonora was built on a plan to deliver 1.1 million tonnes of mined ore to the plant. And this was predicated on improvement of our equipment availability and utilization rates. Recently, we have been able to slowly but surely improve these rates by our contractor. But unfortunately, these rates were not achieved as fast as we had planned due to our ability to maintain and operate as labor became critical for the site. In our planning for quarter 1, we assumed that with the lifting of border closures and the reducing of impact COVID-19 isolation rules, we would be able to accelerate our improvement rates as more highly skilled staff joined the company.

This wasn't the case. And what we didn't anticipate was the high competition for skilled fitters and maintainers. Not only were we not able to quickly fill out positions, we actually lost key staff as well. We have been able to fill most of these positions now, however, not at the same skill level that we would have done in the past. As a result, we will not be able to make up for the lost time. To be clear, our equipment and availability utilization rates did improve during the quarter, just not to the levels we had originally planned.

Our mined ore quarter-on-quarter actually increased to 165,000 tonnes. However, we were aiming for 240,000 tonnes. We have recast our production plans, and we will continue to increase ore delivery to the mill for the rest of this year, but we are very conscious of the ongoing competition for Key Star and have therefore elected to lower our guidance on ore delivered to the mill down from 1.1 million tonnes to 950,000 tonnes. This is a 14% decline in ore, and therefore, we have lowered the production guidance by 14%.

Grade expectations for Leonora have not been changed. The deferral of capital for Leonora and Simberi have been reflected in the lower CapEx guidance for this year. Our cost guidance for Atlantic and Simberi remain unchanged and in their local currencies. However, the recent depreciation of the Australian dollar has resulted in an increase in the Australian dollar cost guidance for both sites. Our all-in sustaining cost guidance for Leonora has been updated to reflect the lower gold production.

Leonora produced 34,000 ounces of gold and all-in sustaining cost of $2,487. This was well below our expectation. As I've mentioned, the drive for lower production was a result of sustained shortage of skilled labor, which meant we didn't have the equipment available to do the mining and particularly the drilling that we had planned.

In partnership with mines, we have been working diligently in filling these roles, and at the end of September, we have succeeded in filling most of the roles, but there is a vast backlog of maintenance work and development measures to achieve. In parallel, we brought new equipment to the site to help alleviate some of the availability problems. Now that we have most of the resources required in terms of people and additional equipment, we expect to see quarter-on-quarter improvement for the rest of the year. As you can see from the graph, our mine grade was down quarter-on-quarter, but this was well expected and certainly flagged and not a driver.

The reduced production has had significant negative impact on our costs on a per ounce basis. It is pleasing today to announce that we have delivered our inaugural Tower Hill open pit reserve in accordance with the time lines we provided to the market previously. The Tower Hill ore reserve adds an additional 560,000 ounces of gold to our large and high-grade ore reserve base in Leonora province, which now sits at 3.1 million ounces of gold. The Tower Hill open pit is just 2 kilometers from Leonora processing plant.

We've also made progress with negotiations with the rail operators, and we have signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the relocation of intermodal activities from adjacent to Tower Hill to a new facility to be built west (sic) [ east ] of the mine. Simberi has continued its operational performance in last quarter. Consistent production at Simberi is beginning to return. Roadblocks have been removed and the operation is delivering as expected. More oxide material was delivered to the site, improving recovery rates, which offset the anticipated grade decline. The all-in sustaining cost was higher than expected at $2,754 per ounce due to diesel prices were higher than we expected.

Maintenance costs were also higher as we continued to work through the backlog of maintenance issues, which developed during COVID-19, when we were unable to send specialists to site for almost 2 years. The rising U.S. dollar has resulted in a higher all-in sustaining costs when converted to Australian dollars.

Now turning to our Atlantic operations. As we expected, there was lower production as the stripping ratio increased in the current quarter. Our all-in sustaining costs were in line with expectations. At the tail end of the quarter, Hurricane Fiona impacted the operations. The site was without power for 7 days. The storm also caused a wall slip, and we estimate it will take approximately 3 weeks to remediate. Power has since been restored, and remediation of the wall strip has commenced. For the start of quarter 2, the processing plant is processing stockpile as we remediate the slip. This will not have any impact on the full year production as we cease mining operations in the coming months, and we always plan to process these stockpiles in the back half of the year.

In terms of Leonora's central to regional consolidation, I'd like to take you through our premier position in the Leonora province. Our province plan strategy places Leonora in the center of any consolidation, both literally and figuratively. St Barbara has the highest mineral reserve and ore reserve in the Leonora region. We have near-term growth from Old South Gwalia and Zoroastrian will be in production within the next 12 months. We have a large landholding that grew significantly in this calendar year with the acquisition of Bardoc, which delivers on our province strategy. Our focus on Gwalia and Leonora province plan is generating early rewards with the expansion of reserves and resources, extending St Barbara's footprint across the region.

The next slide clearly articulates why St Barbara is key to consolidation. It has a grade required to justify and cover cost of transportation. The 3.7 grams per tonne is a combination of all we have in the region, but let's keep it in mind that our reserve grades at Gwalia are far higher. As you can see, we have a very different problem than others in the region. We have over 122 million tonnes of ore to be processed containing 10.5 million ounces of gold. Our free milling deposits would benefit from a larger scale processing facility, no doubt. Not only are we key to a meaningful consolidation in the region, we also are a low-cost entry into consolidation should we wish to take part.

It shows that we have the largest reserve base, yet on a per ounce basis, our enterprise value is the cheapest. Before I open up for questions this morning, I'd like to emphasize the following: St Barbara is literally and figuratively central to consolidation in Leonora region. We have high-grade ore, which makes everything else possible. It can travel economically. We have a lot of ore, which is a unique problem to have. And this is a unique problem for others in the region. Finally, as I highlighted today, we are a low-cost entry into consolidation. And with that stated now, I will open up for questions. Back over to you, Melanie, and thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Andrew Bowler with Macquarie.

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Andrew Bowler
analyst

Just talking about the delaying of those key capital expenditures for Leonora district. I know you commented in the text that you expect to see decreased execution risk along with that project. Just wondering about that sort of circa $180 million of CapEx that you talked about. Are you expecting that needs to be repriced over the next year or 2? Or do you think that freeing up of labor and materials and normalization of the whole sector will see CapEx remain largely unchanged from that $180 million from 6 months ago?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes, Andrew. Look, I think as the studies unfiled and we get more accurate costing on some of the construction costs and fabrication costs and like, things will move around. I'd be reluctant to change it at this point in time. I'd certainly, I think over the next 12 months, 18 months, in particular, post COVID settling down and all the noise and the current market demands on people and resources and costs were somewhat stabilized, I don't know whether they'll ever come back to pre-COVID rates and prices. So I wouldn't predict that. But to derisk the business going forward and now the need to expand immediately is not as great as what it was. We can defer capital around as we see fit to where the best value in returns are coming from.

And at the moment, clearly filling the mill through Aphrodite, in particular, coming online and Old South Gwalia certainly gives us more flexibility to be able to do that sooner than we anticipate it. And that gives us the flexibility to defer capital even more as we look into regional consolidation. So I don't think the capital value as such will change a lot, but certainly the timing of that and the ability to be able to deliver capital projects on budget, on time, 12 months out from now, is probably less risky than what it would be today.

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Andrew Bowler
analyst

No. And just turning to Simberi, obviously, pretty handy life extension from the oxide. Is that material that's been sort of discovered, I mean, is that largely oxide? Or is it a little bit of transition material? I guess what I'm asking is, can we expect to see the recoveries tail off over the next couple of years as you get into those new oxide tonnes.

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Craig Jetson
executive

Good question, Andrew. It's actually new material. So it's new oxide material. So I wouldn't expect to see a drop in recoveries because of what we just found. As I said, the studies have been able to find this material. It extends the current operation by the period that I stated before. So no, it's not a conversion at all. It is new material.

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Andrew Bowler
analyst

I know you obviously probably can't say much, but Simberi's sale process -- I mean, I think some could say that the commentary from today about delaying the FID for the sulfide projects perhaps is indicating that a near-term deal is a little bit less likely than it was previously. Is that a valid comment or still plenty of people in the data room?

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Craig Jetson
executive

No, it's still quite active in the data room, Andrew. So that's going quite well. There's obviously a lot of work to do once you're in that data room and site visits and a whole range of due diligence activities. And of course, slow learning remains to be one option. There are plenty of options available to us and we're exploring whatever we possibly can. I think I've stated before, it's not a fire sale. Simberi, the sulfide project, in itself is still, even with its escalated costs as I know of today, still has a great NPV. It's a fantastic project, extended life of the mine by 10 to 12 years. It is a great little asset.

We're doing a strategic review for many different reasons, not just because of the capital or the growth. So look, there'll be more of that to come. There's still quite a bit of work to do before the decision is made on that. But now that we have more oxide material, we're extending the life of mine a little bit more on oxide themselves. There is actually no hurry moving into the sulfide project than what we've already indicated today. So we'll wait and see how that process unfolds. There's still a bit of work to do, and the data room is active with multiple participants. So that's very pleasing.

Operator

Your next question comes from Matt Greene with Credit Suisse.

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Matthew Greene
analyst

Craig, I hope you're well. Yes, look, I am not going to touch too much on the challenges you're facing at the moment. I just have a few on Tower Hill. I think this deposit could be a key longer-term deposit for any sort of consolidation in the region. So just on the reserve you've announced today, which is based on the premise of mill expanding to 2.1 million tonnes, which you've now deferred for 12 months. Can you just give some color on what the average annual production rate you've assumed to underpin the reserve?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Matt, I'm not sure I actually fully understand the questions, but look, I think the deferral of the expansion is a prudent one given where we see the flexibility coming from, the recent purchase of Bardoc assets and how we're going to fill the mill. I think there's still a number of development opportunities available that's not well and truly defined in the region yet with particularly Tower Hill, Harbour Lights, and when we bring Harbour Lights online with Zoroastrian, for example, these look like we've been deferred even more because of what we have today and how we're growing the reserves and resources at the moment.

So look, it's really difficult to make that call. But I think from a province perspective, from a siloed view of where Tower Hill, Harbour Lights, and the pieces of the Bardoc assets all fit together is still being reviewed and still creating some exciting value propositions for us as we unfold going forward. But I think the deferral of the expansions in capital, given the current climate, the construction issues that we're seeing in the market at the moment with labor, material prices, I think the deferral is a prudent one at this point in time.

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Matthew Greene
analyst

I mean, I guess just if we look at the 2.1 expanded case, and just looking at the appendix on the reserve statement. I mean, you've got about 1 million tonnes coming from Gwalia underground, you'll have some from the Zoroastrian, and some refractory material. But I mean, are we looking at kind of 300,000, 400,000 tonnes a year coming from Tower Hill? Is that kind of, what, thinking?

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Craig Jetson
executive

That would be the thinking at this point, yes. Obviously, I'd like to have more milling capacity and increase that. Once we've become deconstrained and we've moved the railway line and re-permit, we do our cutback. So I think the Tower Hill will certainly give out more than what we are anticipating at this point in time. But it gets back to eventually the milling capacity. What is the right, I guess, balance for the area.

As you point out, Gwalia around 1 million, 1.1 million tonnes stabilized eventually; 300,000 and 400,000 tonnes that will come next year from Zoroastrian. It really does tend to increase over the next 2 years up to that 2.1. We don't have to do it straight away. We were hoping to do it sooner, but there's actually no need for at this point. So deferring the capital in today's climate is probably the best one for us to pursue.

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Matthew Greene
analyst

That's great. So just to follow on your comment there about the additional milling capacity. I'm sure this is a combination, but is this more around just trying to lower the processing unit costs just given Gwalia's high fixed cost base there? Or is it also to sort of just, I guess, better optimize that open pit mine plan?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. Look, it's both. I mean, sorry, Matt.

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Matthew Greene
analyst

Which one is the key value driver here for unlocking more reserves? Is it more around the processing?

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Craig Jetson
executive

It's more in the processing, absolutely. And the processing is certainly the holy grail and the bottleneck, not so much now, but in the next 12 months, it will be a significant bottleneck that we need to address starting now, and our studies and our options into that well advanced, and we're getting a better view of what that position would be. And we have some nice reserves and resources, so little milling capacity, then we're driven to do something different, and that's why we're looking for consolidation. And that consolidation in the region could come from many different ways and different methods, and we're looking at everyone that's available to us.

But I think with the excitement of Tower Hill being as good as what it is, as close as what it is, certainly begs to mill expansion quickly, but it also helps us defer some of the refractory expansion or modifications to plan for the refractory as well. So we'll be able to push that down the road in terms of investments at the same time, which is a good position to be in. Not missing a point, Matt, about the -- we need to do a lot of work, and we are doing a lot of work to reduce our fixed cost base at Leo.

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Matthew Greene
analyst

Yes. Because I mean, just looking at it, it looks like you've assumed processing and G&A of around sort of $34 a tonne, when if I look at Gwalia for the last few quarters, that's averaged around $16, but appreciating the mill hasn't been fully utilized. But where do you ideally need to see that sort of processing and G&A costs on a unit basis? Where do you really need to get that to, to really optimize the value at Tower Hill? Because I mean, there's a lot of mills in -- as you say, on the consolidation, there's a lot of mills with some capacity that are already at processing costs lower than that $34 level. So does it really make sense to go ahead and expand Gwalia when there's a lot of capacity off the road, for example?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. Look, as I said, the consolidation, the capacity can come in many different ways. And certainly, consolidation is one way of increasing the capacity, and clearly, the Gwalia mine, for example, its ore is such a high grade that it travels and covers its cost very, very well, whereas some of the others certainly don't have that luxury. So the flexibility within consolidation is part of what we look at, and the review, of course. But clearly, Leo, in its own right needs a mill expansion. You know, 1.4 million, 2.1 million, is 2.1 million actually enough? And if you look at further down the road, then it may well not be. So we need to be in front of the curve and understanding what that looks like in 3 to 5 years from now, that more milling capacity and depending on how it comes is certainly the holy grail for this region.

Operator

Your next question comes from Alex Barkley with RBC.

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Alexander Barkley
analyst

Just trying to get a bit more clarity around that Leonora mining figure in FY '23, the 950,000 tonnes. You previously suggested the 1.1 number probably included some min waste and the straight ore, as you reported, would be more around 1 million tonnes. Just trying to work out what that 950,000 exactly is. Does that include any mineralized waste you plan on processing. And I suppose a second part to that, can you feel the extra milling capacity through the year with stockpile, mineralized waste, third-party ore, et cetera?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. Look, absolutely. I think we can fill a mill late in the year, early next year. But if you look at, I think, the issues, that's really -- when we put our plan together, we made some assumptions on availability, utilization rates of equipment and people and access to people, all of which have improved towards the end of the quarter, but nowhere near like we planned and we expected to see early in the quarter to be able to achieve the 1.1 million tonnes to the milling ore this year.

So with that loss, now that we do have more people, and mining contractors and ourselves have been working very hard to close that gap and the skill gap as well. We have a backlog of maintenance to do. We have a lot of drilling to catch up on because of the equipment availability and the operators available to turn the equipment wasn't there in the quarter. Now we are in a better situation than we have been. We will continue to see the rates improve over the next 3 quarters at the rate that we expect at quarter 1.

The problem is, when you start getting to the 1 million to 1.1 million tonne run rates, it's very, very difficult to continue any improvement above that. So any sprint capacity to catch up is already absorbed in the capacity going from 850,000 this year to 1.1 million. So 1.1 million is probably the limit of what, as we go deeper, 1 mine, 1 hole or decline can actually give that mill. The rest is going to come from Zoroastrian when that comes online, about 300,000 tonnes or 400,000 tonnes on an annualized rate later this year.

We're also developing quite well out into our South Gwalia. That won't give us much more extra ore, but it will give us better flexibility and more reliable ore feed to the mill as such. So I think clearly, by the end of this year, we'll ensure we're delivering around the 1 million, 1.1 million tonne run rates annualized, and the mill will be full as soon as we get Zoroastrian online later in the year, early next year as well. And that's why we're looking at mill expansions and consolidation and whether we transport ore somewhere else, and looking at every avenue every lead that we pull to create value. But the thing we need to do is reducing our costs, and affecting our fixed cost is fill that mill, and that's what we're aiming to do as soon as we possibly can.

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Alexander Barkley
analyst

Okay. And a quick addendum, when you say, with Zoro you can fill the mill from first quarter FY '24. Is that the 1.4 million tonne capacity, you think you'd be milling about 1.4 million from that quarter onwards? Or is that a rate you're sort of ramping up through the quarter?

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Craig Jetson
executive

No, no, no, that's the rate we will be ramping up through the quarter and heading into next year as they have targeted rates. I mean, we're delivering 1 million to 1.1 million out of Gwalia with the deeps and the shallows, and you're adding 300,000 to 400,000 from Zoroastrian, that's your 1.4 million. So we're almost there. I'm sure we can optimize it a little bit more and get a bit more than 1.4 million, but let's wait and see how that unfolds towards the rest of the year.

Operator

Your next question comes from Peter O'Connor with Shaw and Partners.

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Peter O'Connor
analyst

Just looking back to the Simberi. You mentioned there are multiple parties in the data rooms active, which is great feedback. Exactly where are you in the process. Have you received nonbinding indicative bids? Are you beyond that stage?

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Craig Jetson
executive

No, Peter, not at this stage. We're certainly very close. We're getting close to the end of the process. It's not going to go on forever. But there's a lot of work to be done to understand and answer a lot of questions that people have. So look, we're not far away. There's no agreements being made and no offers being put on the table of any description or any options at this stage. So we've still got some journey to go.

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Peter O'Connor
analyst

Judging by typical M&A, if nonbinding bids are due in the next few months, is this something that could be wrapped up in early '23 calendar? Or is it -- as you said, it's not going to drag on forever?

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Craig Jetson
executive

No, it's not going to drag on forever. It will be this year. I would hope we're in a position to announce what we're doing this calendar year.

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Peter O'Connor
analyst

Okay. And to the CapEx deferral, whilst I accept your commentary and description being fiscally prudent and pragmatic, given the Leonora Province Plan backdrop, is it a tactical move as much as it is a fiscal move, i.e., is this an acknowledgment of the process in the chess game that has been played out? Is deferring CapEx is to see what happens?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Peter, that's an interesting question. So yes, it is on both fronts that you really highlighted there, to be honest. It's strategic. It's also the best outcome from an investment perspective on investment proposition by St Barbara and our shareholders at this point in time. That's number one. So fiscally and financially, in whichever way it looks, it's certainly the best outcome, deferring that capital, and it's great to be in a position where we can fill the mill, defer capital, and assess what the future would look like.

And then strategically, how does that fit with the combinations of what's available or may be available or could be available in the region for consolidation, because then once you unlock that value and put the, I guess, ore to its rightful home in terms of where does it create the most value, it gives you significant optionality to be able to make changes going forward. In some cases, potentially bringing capital need forward, but also, in our case, deferring capital. So I think it's prudent. It's the right decision by the business in terms of strategy and certainly, for now, the right business decision in terms of risk.

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Peter O'Connor
analyst

So Craig, further to that and to your comments in an article which we read yesterday in The Australian by Nick Evans and you were quoted, the province potential that you talked about, I think you gave a number of 600,000 ounces, and it's pretty easy to do the math on grade, tonnes, and mill capacity to get that type of number. What's the journey to get to that type of tonnage in the Leonora area. Is that a 5-year view? I don't think you gave a year for that. Is it through '25? Is it through '27? Is it the end of decade? Is this something that's really deliverable with the news that are there now?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. Look, I've got a strong view and it's a view that the consolidation gives you the optionality to be able to process the refractory ore and the free milling ore in different locations in different ways through minimal expansion. So I think the region consolidation is the holy grail to be able to develop the gold industry to where it adds enormous value over and above what it delivers at this point in time. So I'll probably leave it at that, but it really does lend itself, and it's critical for the right consolidation to occur. In terms of being achievable, I think it's achievable sooner than later. I don't think it's a 4 to 5-year down the track aspiration, I believe it's much sooner if the right consolidation took place.

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Peter O'Connor
analyst

Okay. Can I segue to Gwalia, just to knot some bolts. So Gwalia costs FY '22 were about $1947 all-in sustained. They're now obviously higher than, as you talked about during your update. What's normal. If we think about FY '23, end of that, going to '24, Tower Hill coming on the mill, running full at 1.4 million tonnes with Old Gwalia South and Tower Hill, you've got a bigger denominator, you've got better tonnes going through. Where do you see the trajectory of all-in sustaining costs in a reasonable world and a reasonable labor environment?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. Look, obviously, I'm not going to give you what I believe is the right number, because I think there's so many more efficiencies and costs out of that business we had not just filling the mill. Obviously, there's a lot of other consolidations that we need to do, and like our operating model at corporate overheads and recharge, what we're doing supporting the sites and how we do that. But there's a lot of work to be done in the next 12 months reducing that. At the same time, as you point out, they're increasing the mill to 1.4 million of capacity. But the most significant reduction in all-in sustaining is going to come from filling that mill because of the high fixed costs. And we need to make sure that we are super competitive in that region, and we're not there yet.

Operator

Your next question comes from Paul Kaner with Ord Minnett.

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Paul Kaner
analyst

Just a couple of questions from me. Firstly, on the underperformance of the 2 stopes at Gwalia, what drove this? Was there any sort of overbreak there? Or is the grades just not what you expected?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes, the grade was always going to be a problem for us, Paul. We've got to do a lot more grade control drilling and certainly a lot more development. So those 2 stopes certainly underperformed on expectations, which was disappointing. But you're going to get that, and the consistency of the ore body, particularly over the next what has been the recent past, and going into the future, as we go through a certain phase of the mine, if you like, the grade drops off and becomes inconsistent over a period of time. I believe we've got a very good handle on that now and understanding what that should look like for future production calls.

Pleasingly, the grade will jump back up about a year from now, back to something that is more powerful than what it is today. But look, the underperformance of those 2 stopes did take us by surprise. But the biggest issue is us not being able to drill, not being able to move the material because of equipment availability because of the resource issue that I spoke about before.

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Paul Kaner
analyst

Yes. And if we think about the current stopes that you have on the go at the moment, are they performing to expectations? Are you having any reconciliation issues there as well?

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Craig Jetson
executive

No, nothing to mention at this stage. No.

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Paul Kaner
analyst

No worries. And then maybe just moving on to Atlantic. I see that you're right, you've decided to not pursue an extension under the environmental act for Cochrane Hill. Could you maybe explain what this actually means for that deposit?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. Look, Cochrane Hill is so far out in the future, as you'd appreciate. The engineering and the project work, if you like, is way behind where, say, Beaver Dam and Fifteen Mile Stream are in this stage of the evolution. And with the regulators changing the act, there's just not enough knowledge and not enough engineering completed to be able to grandfather any other way other than regulate it and permit it eventually under the new act. So it doesn't change what we've been doing. It just means that there's a bit more work to do and we'll re-permit under the new act. So it was the decision that we took. We've got plenty of time to be able to permit and get that project in train. So it was really the maturity and the level of where the project is today or whether we'd meet the criteria of grandfathering or whether we would reapply under the new act, and we decided, obviously, to I guess, permit under the new act.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Alexander Papaioanou with Citi.

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Alexander Papaioanou
analyst

Another quarter of cash burn over $30 million and cash is in that $65 million. Are you comfortable with the balance sheet where it is?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Good question. The answer is when you burn that sort of cash, no, we're not really pleased with the position or that performance. We're certainly reasonably comfortable with the cash position at the end of the quarter and what we're predicting going forward, knowing now that we will get a better performance out of Gwalia for all the obvious reasons we just stated. So at this point in time, I'm certainly comfortable, yes.

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Alexander Papaioanou
analyst

Can you give us a sense on the margin of these new ounces at Simberi, and whether they're pretty similar in grade to historical oxide material?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. Look, they're very similar to what you've seen in the past. The grade could be a little bit higher, but I'm not going to call that just yet, if at all, but it will be similar to what you've seen in the past. I think the biggest issue for Simberi in terms of margins is the catch-up work that we're doing around mobile fleet and fixed plant now that we can get technical people in to catch up on the backlog that was created during COVID. So the inflated costs, particularly end of last year, into this quarter, will start to normalize somewhat during this quarter, by quarter 2, and then be back on track the last half of the year.

Operator

Your next question is a follow-up from Matt Greene with Credit Suisse.

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Matthew Greene
analyst

Just on Gwalia, third-party ore, you've highlighted in the past that they've under-delivered on grade.

Have you seen any improvement there? Are they continuing to under-deliver?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes, Matt. So the answer is yes, it's been under-delivering, but there's been pockets. On swings and roundabouts, I think it's pretty much on par than what we thought and maybe a little bit lower than we expected, to be honest. But there has been times when they've overperformed. But mostly, they have struggled to meet their performance of what they were requiring. So it is up and down depending on quarter-on-quarter. And it needs to be more consistent with what we've been able to achieve in the past. But there's a lot of effort and a lot of work going into that as well. But it is still a good business for us while we have the milling capacity. It's certainly making some money for us at this point in time, which is good to see, and we'll continue with it for the short term.

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Matthew Greene
analyst

Okay. And then just on the utilization in the quarter, are you able to give us some sort of numbers as to what you saw relative to what you've been seeing in the previous 3 quarters?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. Look, I think if you use industry standard numbers of around 80%, 85% availability, in the meantime, between repair sort of data, we're about 60% of where we should be. And the backlog of maintenance now has to be dealt with. I think the resources that we've been able to bring to site certainly help us do that. Even with all the headwinds that we have, we did improve our material to the mill, ore to the mill, but nowhere near as the past. And that was the problem. It was the speed and the rate of that improvement wasn't been able to achieve, but we're in a better position we are in now going into quarter 2. We still have significant skills shortages. We may have the number of people now. But I think the skill and the experience is hurting productivity significantly, and we need to get across that the best way that we can, but it's certainly improving.

Operator

Your next question is a follow-up from Peter O'Connor with Shaw and Partners.

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Peter O'Connor
analyst

Craig, just further to Matt's question about labor and availability and training skills, are we in a cycle now where we won't get back to normal as an industry in WA. These people with good experience and training. So it's multiple quarters, multiple years. What is the pool that we're supposed to open up? With border reopening, did that suddenly turn up? What's the time line to normality in labor availability and skills?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. I think the other one that we're not talking about much is the growth in the industry as well, Peter. I think with the new mines, the expansion of existing assets in Western Australia, and I think I'll only talk about WA, it has put a lot of pressure on resources, old resources, whether it be technical, whether it be nontechnical. I think the immigration laws changing may have helped somewhat, but I haven't seen that flow through.

We're working with Macmahon and looking at high level, high-skilled base technical roles from overseas in 1 or 2 different countries to help us close that gap here ourselves for our own businesses. But people are not coming back across the board like we thought. There is so much growth and demand in Western Australia. The technical resources, the maintainers, and experienced people are certainly very, very difficult to attract and find. The growth in the industry is absorbing even more pressure on that issue. So I think it's going to be; one, of immigration; two, of training; three, time and experience, seats in a row. And people sitting in these seats for significant periods of time getting the productivity where it should be and us being able to maintain the fleet to an acceptable level that the industry has been able to do that in the past. And we're not doing that at the moment. We've got a long way to go. So I think it's a model year recovery from the impact of COVID and a model year of growth in the industry, making labor even shorter than what it is now.

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Peter O'Connor
analyst

Okay. And thinking about other parts of the cost pie. Are there any areas of respite in the last quarter? Is it diesel cost quarter-on-quarter, you see improvements there? And any other consumables? Is there any easing of that supply chain pressure in those prices of the raw materials?

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes. look, I'd like to say that I can put my hand on a range of things, but I actually don't see a lot of it normalizing or coming back to where it was. I think we made some mistakes in the diesel costing for Simberi, which hurt our budget and our budget forecast. I think the fuel costs have come down a little, but I'm not seeing that come through in reagents and spare parts or materials from overseas. Anecdotically, I'm hearing that crate and shipping costs are reducing. I haven't seen that flow through to the bottom line as yet. So I don't think the inflated cost of the last 2 or 3 years are going to normalize anytime soon or drop back to pre-COVID rate.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand back to Mr. Jetson for closing remarks.

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Craig Jetson
executive

Yes, Melanie, well, thank you for that. Well, thanks, everybody, for your interest in dialing in and asking some of those questions today. It's been a very slow start to the year, as you can see, and it's not palatable changing guidance so early, and I clearly thought that this is the best way to be transparent, best way to drive our business as we move forward. We will certainly now move on and improve our production performance as I've forecasted. We will be working very hard on reducing costs and work through, I guess, the process of Simberi and, of course, the consolidation opportunities at Leonora. But thank you, everybody, for your questions and dialing in, and I look forward to updating you at the end of this quarter or the half. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Melanie.

Operator

That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.