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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q2

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Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Grupo Herdez Second Quarter 2021 Results Conference Call.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this call is being recorded and that the information discussed today may include forward-looking statements regarding the company's financial and operating performance. All projections are subject to risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially. Please refer to a detailed note in the company's press release regarding forward-looking statements.

At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Gerardo Canavati, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Thank you, Rupran. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Grupo Herdez Second Quarter 2029 (sic) [ 2021 ] Earnings Conference Calls.

Once again, I hope you are and your families are doing well. The second quarter of last year will be remembered as the time when the COVID crisis impacted our country the most due to the full consequences of the extreme lockdown, which were felt obviously in our retail business. On the other hand, volume on our Preserves and Export segments were extraordinary, translating into double-digit growth in sales for both.

Today, the coin flipped, and the performance in our 2 main segments reflect the opposite as we adapt to the new conditions of the market, including higher inflation and more normalized demand. As usual, Andrea will now walk you through the results for the quarter, and we will take your questions at the end. Andrea?

A
Andrea Casillas
executive

Thank you, Gerardo. Good morning, everyone. Just as a reminder, 2021 results are not fully comparable versus the previous year for several reasons. First, the divestment of the Tuna business and the Nair brand. Furthermore, we ended the distribution agreement with Ocean Spray effective 2021 and starting in April of this year with again the distribution of the General Mills spreads.

Consolidated net sales decreased 1.2% in the quarter and were practically flat considering the first 6 months of the year. The decrease in net sales for the quarter came mainly as a result of lower volume in the Preserves and Export segments due to a very challenging comparison base. On the other hand, the Frozen segment recovered somewhat due to the reopening of stores and are returning traffic.

Sales in the Preserves division decreased 2.2% on the quarter and were flattish on a cumulative basis as a result of lower volume due to the high comparison base and was offset by the price increases implemented in the last 12 months. Frozen increased 36.2% on the quarter and 10% on a cumulative basis due to the reopening of stores and improved traffic metrics. In Exports, net sales decreased almost 35% in the quarter and 13.7% on a cumulative basis due to the combination of a stronger currency against the U.S. dollar and a decrease in volume of mayo and homestyle sauces compared to the same quarter of last year.

Consolidated gross margin in the quarter was 37.3%, 30 basis points below the second quarter of last year. This was mainly as a result of the 110 basis point impact on Preserves due to higher input costs as well as a decrease of 940 basis points in the Export segment. For the first 6 months, gross margin was 37.4%, 30 basis points lower than the previous year due to the gradual recovery of the Frozen margin and the impact on the Export's front.

Consolidated SG&A was 27.1% and 26.9% of net sales, 30 and 40 basis points higher for the quarter and for the first half of the year. SG&A on Preserves was slightly higher on the quarter, mainly due to the reconditioning of our distribution center in Mexico and the digital transformation project.

Consolidated EBIT before other income decreased 7% in the quarter as a result of a 14% decrease in Preserves and a MXN 136 million recovery in Frozen operating loss compared to the previous year. For the first half, EBIT before other income decreased to MXN 1.2 billion, which is 5.6% lower than last year, mainly due to the results of Exports and Preserves -- sorry, Exports as Preserves remained flattish compared to 2020.

In the quarter, we registered other expenses of MXN 70 million, which are mainly related with COVID and compare unfavorably with last year when we registered other income coming from the divestiture of the Tuna business.

EBIT and EBITDA margins decreased 16.5% and 18.1% in the quarter, while margins decreased 160 and 270 basis points, respectively. On a cumulative basis, they decreased 21.3% and 17.6% with margins of 10% and 13.8% of net sales, respectively.

In the quarter, income from unconsolidated companies was MXN 173 million, 17% lower than in 2020, mainly due to a double-digit depreciation of the U.S. dollar against the Mexican peso. In cumulative figures, it was MXN 416 million, 20.6% higher than last year due to stronger results at MegaMex.

Consolidated net income for the quarter was MXN 391 million, which was 20.7% lower than the previous year. In cumulative figures, consolidated net income was MXN 933 million, almost 20% lower than last year. Majority net income decreased 6% and 19.5% during the quarter and year-to-date, respectively, mainly due to the operating performance of the Frozen and Retail segments.

As of June, consolidated cash amounted MXN 2.7 billion, down MXN 1.3 billion for the first quarter. After buying back 8.9 million shares, net CapEx of MXN 130 million, hedges and inventory buildup, including General Mills. Interest-bearing liabilities remain at MXN 9.5 billion with an average life of 5.6 years and an average cost of 7.41%. Leverage ratios remain comfortable, and net debt to consolidated EBITDA was 2x.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Gerardo.

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Thank you, Andrea. Despite overall category declines, we gained share of market in 80% of our main categories. While for the other small ones, we still see good dynamics.

Regarding our shops, traffic is slowly gaining traction. But as mentioned previously, we do not expect to reach 2019 levels until 2022. Pricing has helped somewhat. In the next month, we will launch a couple of initiatives that will -- that we believe will kickstart performance.

Helados Nestlé is doing well in modern train, but DSD still lagged significantly. As mentioned in the previous quarter, the run-up in commodities have been unprecedented. Input costs are rising in the low double-digit range for the foreseeable future, and significant pricing actions are inevitable.

Preserves gross margin erosion will continue this quarter and uptick in the fourth on a sequential basis. Frozen should continue to improve as mobility restrictions ease and vaccination rates improve despite the new Delta variance. Regardless of Preserves gross margin headwinds, we expect second half growth in EBIT before other income to be in the low 20s helped by Frozen. For the full year, we expect Preserves and Exports top line to increase in the high single digits; while Frozen, north of 40%. Total EBIT and EBITDA should have an index of 90 compared to last years, which included extraordinary income, while net income should grow in the mid-teens driven by Frozen.

Talking about MegaMex, pretax income should grow in the high teens on a currency-neutral basis. Expect the same amount of other expenses for the second half as we are still registering some onetime of accruals. On an annualized basis, the new labor law will have an impact of 4% on our pretax earnings. But more importantly, on an aggregate basis, this will translate into more consumption.

CapEx is behind schedule. We expect to complete MXN 600 million or MXN 700 million on increasing capacity in pastas, vegetables, tomato puree and building the new lines to manufacture RedHot Frank's and French's. Starting next quarter, we are rebranding the Frozen segment name to Impulse as new categories will be added this year.

That concludes our prepared remarks. We are now open for your questions. Rupran, go ahead.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Felipe Ucros from Scotiabank.

F
Felipe Ucros Nunez
analyst

The first one is on General Mills. This is the first quarter since the announcement of the new distribution deal. So I wanted to ask you about your initial take on it, how you plan to scale it up and maybe some comments on the plans for ramp-up. I'm not sure if you can comment on profitability, for example, for the distribution deal as well, that would be great. I'll start with that one.

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Gerardo Miguel
executive

Sure, Felipe. Okay. So the opportunity that we see with General Mills is it's a set of very great brands that make -- resonate with our philosophy. We see that there are some opportunities in distribution across the country, and we expect to grow that business at least in the high single digits.

In terms of profitability, you cannot compare distributions with our own products where we manufacture. So obviously, the impact of this distribution will take out some gross margin of our mix. It's not relevant. It would be between 50 basis points, but the important thing is those distribution fees go down the line to EBIT. Obviously, there's some distribution expenses that are variable as freight, et cetera, but approximately 3/4 of that fee goes down to EBIT.

F
Felipe Ucros Nunez
analyst

Okay. That's very clear. And then maybe if you could give us a little more detail about Frozen. It looks like you're recovering very nicely here. Maybe you can tell us a little bit about how mobility has improved. And maybe some initial takes on Cielito and the performance the last few months because when you acquired it, we almost went straight into COVID after that, and it was very hard to see how it was performing under a normal kind of environment. Not sure if this is normal now. Certainly, it's not, but maybe you have some more visibility to how it's going.

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Sure. Well, we don't, by any means, we feel this is normal. I think that there's -- traffic is well below 2019. What we have done in this period is that we have invested in the brands. We have increased the brand equity. I don't know if you recall or you can see all the initiatives that the brands are doing in social media. We have had a quite significant engagement in the COVID with doctors, with health personnel, et cetera. We have helped Mexican talent, local talent. So they have artists. They have rebranded or painted our few stores in Cielito Querido. So we have been engaging a lot with consumers while they haven't returned. Obviously, in the case of Cielito, a big percentage of the stores, of the coffee shops are in offices. So traffic is lagging somewhat, but we are hitting our planned visits.

So pricing, as I mentioned, has helped. And I think that profitability, when traffic becomes, profitability will be significant as the EBITDA 4 walls, as we call it, the one of the stores is improving very strongly. So we feel very upbeat. We have these 2 initiatives that obviously I cannot comment until they would be public, but I think we believe that things are in the -- are going to be in the better way.

Obviously, this variant, this COVID variant is a hiccup definitely. But as everyone should expect the increase of cases, but we need to control the death. So I think that we -- probably, this would be part of what we call the herd immunity. And also, we're going to add new categories, and that's the reason that, that segment is increasing dry categories, and that's the reason we're renaming it as Impulse.

F
Felipe Ucros Nunez
analyst

That's great color.

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Yes. And also, we have closed out several stores definitely that were not underperforming and after this were doing not so well, and that also give us the opportunity as an expanding business to capitalize on opportunities in the retail because we still feel that the retail environment in terms of opening stores is very slow. So we're capitalizing on our relationship with landlords in order to have a robust expansion plan for the brands, multichannel.

F
Felipe Ucros Nunez
analyst

Well, that's great color, Gerardo. Maybe if I can just add a follow-on on the new category. Is this a category that you're moving from Preserves into Frozen or you're adding something else that is not at the company right now?

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

No, no. We're in the process of adding something in the snacking category. And because we're in the process, we're not able to fully disclose, probably in the next 6 months. But we have -- we're going to add those multi-categories with shops and other channels.

Operator

The next question comes from Emilio Hernandez (sic) [ Emiliano Hernández ] from GBM.

E
Emiliano Hernández Marvan
analyst

Just a quick one on my side. I was wondering if you can give us more color on how much was the price increase year-over-year in Preserves and what is the strategy going forward there on pricing. Should we expect another increase maybe in the third quarter?

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Sure. Emiliano, definitely. As you mentioned -- as you have seen, our history in terms of pricing is they're never going to be a onetime issue. So we did a price increase in May across the board in the mid-single digits, 5% to 6%. And we are planning to do another one in September and probably another one next May. So what you are seeing is that we have always 2 windows in the year of pricing action in order to play with volume and pricing. So when these shops have happened in the past, we usually lose margin -- gross margin in the first year, and then we recovered, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks. So right now, we're going to see the worst gross margin in Preserves. And starting on the fourth quarter, that's going to be helped by the price actions of September. We're going to see tick higher.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Álvaro García from BTG Pactual.

A
Alvaro Garcia
analyst

I have a couple of questions. First on Frozen, I was wondering if you could -- I'd love to hear your view, Gerardo, as to why you think DSD and Nestlé is down so much because it seems to really be lagging relative to other businesses that have seen a bit of a boost from the reopening of Mexico we saw in the second quarter. Do you think it's purchasing power? Is it mobility still in the center of the country because of your exposure there in the center? Or is it a trust issue? People don't want to -- don't buy lollipops from the street anymore or buy a frozen pop from the street. I would love to hear your view on that first.

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Okay, Álvaro. Thank you. We think it's a combination of both because, well, first of all, Frozen is not -- it's competing with all the categories, okay? And we have seen, as mentioned previously, that in the DSD, we estimate that 100,000 mom and pops closed. So we believe that it's taking quite some time to recover those. We will recover them because this is one particular aspect of the Mexican economy, to open a mom-and-pop shop, but it's taking us time. So we still see our drop size a little bit smaller. So when we go to sale to DSD, people are not buying the same amount of sticks, and that's because of the economic situation, we believe. And the other thing is that we have been very slow opening new customers because of this closure and opening. So we believe that are the issues. We are changing some of our routes from, what we call, preventing to auto sales in order to open and to gain some new customers. I don't know if that answers your question.

A
Alvaro Garcia
analyst

Yes. No, that's clear. That's clear. My second question is on MegaMex specifically. I was wondering if you can give an update on sort of Don Miguel and the strategy there.

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Well, thank you for asking for Don Miguel, Nobody asked quite a bit of that. We are right now in the process -- Don Miguel suffered a lot in the pandemic. You remember that we had to close the plant because of COVID, and what we are doing right now is that we are investing in revamping the plant in terms of projects. Let me explain.

So what we did is that we rationalized the portfolio. So we are taking out products that are very labor intensive, and we are increasing a line of less intensive. Let's talk about burritos. Hand-wrap burritos is labor intense, and taquitos is less intense. So we are changing that mix, and we are making investments on CapEx in order to automate the plant a little bit more, and we expect that business to be breakeven next year. So today, we are still experiencing some profitability issues. But with our investments, we believe that we're going to be breakeven starting next year.

In terms of the other businesses, Herdez is doing quite well. Herdez is still the only brand, authentic brand that is increasing high single digits or low double digits. We have a very aggressive goal in order to increase market share for the next 5 years. And fresherized, even though we are starting to see some avocado pressures, we still are experiencing good margins due to the last 6 months.

A
Alvaro Garcia
analyst

All right. Great. I have one last question, which is on sort of -- obviously, this is unprecedented. The commodity price pressure is unprecedented or we haven't seen something like this in 10 years. If you try to think back on previous very violent increases of this sort and things like soybean oil and how rational market participants were at the sort of pricing/retail level, maybe if you could take us back in time and sort of reassure that, typically, market participants are very rational in acting together on the pricing front or maybe not. Your sort of outlook on that would be very helpful.

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Well, definitely in -- particularly in mayo, we think that we have rational participants and because we're talking about one very strongly. I don't believe there's some commercial user that has long hedges that do not expire. Because of the policy -- the hedging policies overall in the world, they would go between 16 months to 12 months, 18 months. So eventually, there's going to be some rationality, and there's going to be some pricing action.

There are -- let's say not in mayo but in other categories, there are people that -- small, private companies that can gain market share. But in our experience, I've been in this company 19 years, and what I have seen is that we lose SOM in the short term. And the short term is 3, 4, 6 months, and then we recover. So even though this is unprecedented, we are not new to this. I think the dynamics in the commodity environment is quite different than the last 15 years, and I'm going to go to that in a couple of minutes. But we are very confident in the strength of our brands, and we are very confident that the SOM is going to recover and that we are going to recover our margins. That's why our pricing actions are very significant. If you compound our pricing actions, you're going to be close to 30%, and that's going to restore our margins in the next year.

In terms of our commodity view, I think this is a very different story, first, because technical factors and fundamental factors are combining themselves. We think this increased recovery, worldwide recovery, is very strong, and it has met some supply chain restrictions that have made this comeback quite difficult. Secondly, weather has not helped at all. So we have a weather issue. By the way, we had a freeze in Brazil yesterday or 2 days ago that is harming the coffee crops. Second, we have a new mandate that is not regulated about renewable diesel that because of all these green initiatives across the world, the big energy companies are producing this diesel, this renewable diesel that is more efficient than biodiesel, and that has put a lot of demand in the market. So we believe that in the short term, let's say in the next 2 years, these dynamics are going to stay in place. That doesn't mean that prices cannot drop 10% or 15%, but I mean they are still very high. And we have to adapt to that, and that's why we are giving this gross margin projection. I hope I -- well, I know I explained it, but I hope I answered...

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Alvaro Garcia
analyst

No, no, no. That was super duper clear and totally fair on the margin front.

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Gerardo Canavati for any closing remarks.

G
Gerardo Miguel
executive

Okay. Thank you. So thank you for your participation on the call today. We look forward to speaking with you again next quarter, and please do not hesitate to contact us in the interim. Have a nice day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.