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Good afternoon and thank you for joining Airbnb’s Earnings Conference Call for the Fourth Quarter of Fiscal 2020. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay from the Investor Relations section of Airbnb’s website following this call.
I will now hand the call over to Ian Lee, Airbnb’s Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Airbnb’s fourth quarter of fiscal 2020 earnings call. On the call today, we have Airbnb’s Co-Founder and CEO, Brian Chesky; and our Chief Financial Officer, Dave Stephenson.
Earlier today, we issued a shareholder letter with our financial results and commentary for our fourth quarter of fiscal 2020. These items were also posted on the Investor Relations session of Airbnb’s website. During the call, we’ll make brief opening remarks and then spend the remaining time on Q&A.
Before I turn it over to Brian, I’d like to remind everyone that we’ll be making forward-looking statements on this call that involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements due to a variety of factors. These factors are described on the forward-looking statements in our shareholder letter and our perspectives filed with the SEC on December 11, 2020. We urge you to consider these factors and remind you that we undertake no obligation to update the information contained on this call to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. You should be aware that these statements should be considered estimates only and are not a guarantee of future performance.
Also, during this call, we will discuss some non-GAAP financial measures. We provided reconciliation for the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures in the shareholder letter posted to our Investor Relations website. These non-GAAP measures are not intended to be substitute for our GAAP results.
And with that, I’ll pass the call to Brian.
Thank you very much, Ian, and thank you all for joining today. I am excited to share our results for the first time as a public company. I want to start by acknowledging that we are still in a pandemic and a lot of people are hurting. So, we know how lucky we are to be in the position we’re in.
Now, before I go into a result, I want to share a theme that we’ll run through each of our earnings calls. When we started Airbnb, it was about more than just travel. In 2007, my roommate, Joe and I, played three airbeds one weekend and turned our apartment into an airbed and breakfast. We hosted three guests that weekend, Michael, Kate, and Amol. And in doing so became the first host. Our guests arrived as strangers, but they left as our friends. And the connections we made that weekend made us realize maybe, there’s a bigger idea here.
Since then, we’ve grown from two hosts to San Francisco to 4 million hosts all around the world. The idea of Airbnb is only possible, because of host. Without host, you’re an outsider in the place that you visit. without hosts, you have nowhere to stay, but crowded tourist districts or resort. A great host does more than share their space. They provide a deeper connection to the places you visited, the people who live there, and they set the stage for you to be able to spend meaningful time, but the people who travel it. So this is why 14 years later, hosting is still at the center of Airbnb. As the world continues to change, people’s fundamental need for connection and belonging or not. This is what will remain focused on day-in and day-out, quarter-after-quarter.
With that, let me talk about our results. 2020 was a year when nearly everything changed, the way we live, the way we work and the way we travel. Airbnb changed as well. We started 2020 by preparing for IPO, only to have to put on hold once the world went into lockdown. But then in the face of the biggest prices in the travel industry has ever seen, our business proved to be resilient and our model was able to adapt. Through the crisis, we also sharpened our focus. We made many difficult decisions while staying true to our core principles that we became a stronger company as a result, and we succeeded in going public after all.
Now, despite a difficult year, we are encouraged by our resilient business performance and the depths of the pandemic, we have forecasted that revenue in 2020 could be less than half of 2019 levels. Yes. We delivered $3.4 billion, a full-year revenue in 2020, down only 30% compared to the year earlier. In Q4, our revenue of $859 million was down only 22% year-over-year, despite the second wave of COVID cases and widespread lockdowns. In addition to this top-line resilience, we also demonstrated focus and discipline to protect our profitability.
Our adjusted EBITDA in 2020 was slightly better than 2019 and this was despite revenue being down $1.4 billion. Our adjusted EBITDA in Q4 2020 with nearly $250 million better than Q4 2019. This was despite revenue in Q4 2020 being $250 million lower than a year earlier. So, we’re able to achieve these results, because of the adaptability of our business model, and because of our focus and financial discipline.
We believe these two factors set us up well for the coming travel rebound and travel is coming back nearly a year after lockdowns began, we believe people are yearning for what’s been taken away from them, travel and human connection. When travel returned, it will be about connection. People will want to spend meaningful time with their family and friends and because of this, as restrictions lift and borders begin to open, we expect there will be a significant travel rebound.
So in 2021, our single priority is to prepare for the coming travel rebound. to do this, what we’re going to do is perfect the entire end-to-end experience of our core service. First, we’re going to educate the world about what makes Airbnb different hosting. through our marketing and communications, we will educate guests that being hosted is a better way to travel. In addition, we will inspire more people to become hosts.
Next, we will recruit more hosts and set them up for success. Once you’ve educated people about hosting, we’ll simplify the onboarding process. So, it’s easier to for hosts to get started, and we are improving our tools and support to help them succeed. Third, to make it easier for guests to find the perfect stay, we are simplifying every part of the guest experience as well as improving our search functionality to support more flexible travel patterns.
And finally, whenever our hosts or guests need us, we need to deliver world-class service. So, we’re actively fixing product issues that drive community contacts, we’re scaling our operations to meet the demand and continually enhancing our service? So that is our plan for 2021, educate the world about hosting, recruit more hosts and set them up for success, simplify the guest experience and deliver world-class service. I want to end by just highlighting two things that we launched this week that I’m really proud of.
On Monday, we launched our first large scale marketing campaign in five years, made possible by host. Even though the brand of Airbnb is mainstream, the idea of hosting is not yet. Our goal with this campaign is to make a long-term investment in educating the world about our hosts. This campaign will help our guests to understand the benefits of being hosted and how this is unique to Airbnb. And it will create more awareness around the idea of becoming a host by making it more mainstream and aspirational. by using real photos of real guests on real Airbnb trips, this campaign shows what the real experience of being hosted is like. And I think it speaks directly to the need for connection that people all over the world are feeling after nearly a year of isolation. So that is made possible by hosts.
And second finally, flexible dates. on Tuesday, we launched a new feature that we call flexible date. today, more people are working from home and that needs more flexibility about when and where they travel. Because of this, we’re seeing a shift in how people search on Airbnb. in 2021 to-date, almost 40% of people searching on Airbnb have been flexible in terms of their date or their location of their stay. This is a huge change in the search paradigm and travel.
flexible date allows guests to search for homes in a whole new way. Instead of having to select the exact dates for a trip, guests are able to do broader searches. Now, you can search for a weekend getaway, a weeklong vacation, or even a month long stay sometimes the next few months. This allows our guests to browse more options while being flexible on the exact dates of their trip and we think this will be a very popular feature coming this travel season.
So that’s our plan for this year to prepare for the coming travel rebound. We’re excited about the year ahead.
And with that, I look forward to answering your questions today.
[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Brian Nowak with Morgan Stanley.
Thanks for taking my questions. I have two. The first one, Brian, I think you brought on quite a few new users to the platform throughout 2020. Is curious, are you seeing anything different from a retention perspective or any differences in user behavior of those people as 2021 booking season has started?
And the second one, I think in the letter, you talk about 1Q 2021 bookings being above 1Q 2020. Are there any more detail on sort of which regions are driving that or is it pretty broad based with people to sort of looking forward to travel in the back half around the globe? Thanks.
Yes. Thank you for asking the questions and I’ll start and Dave, you can obviously feel free to elaborate. I’ll just – I’ll start with the second question. We are seeing a lot of resiliency in certain geographies, especially in North America and Europe. What we’ve generally found is that domestic travel globally is pretty strong and that the primary challenge is cross border travel in addition to of course, business travel, but we’re not as affected by business travel reductions.
And so countries with really strong domestic travel are seeing more resilience than countries that are not as – that are not as affected by the cross border travel. So that’s the first thing that we’re seeing. And I’m very encouraged by it. now, as far as retention of users that we got last year, we are seeing continued strong retention. There’s no major changes. I think the retention of our user base has historically been strong and it was very strong last year. I’ll just highlight a couple of things. One of the reasons I think our retention is strong is, because people are finding many new use cases to use Airbnb in addition to all the old rates that use that.
So, even though borders were closed and international travel is reduced, many people found longer-term stays in Airbnb, because they were working from home. They were flexible. Many people want to get in cars and travel nearby, staying in a local community. And so we’re able to seek that demand as well. And so there’s a number of areas that I think that provide a lot of resiliency for our model. I think it’s inherently adaptable and as our model adapts, that means retention increases, because there are more uses for our guests.
Great. Thanks, Brian.
Thank you.
And your next question comes from Heath Terry with Goldman Sachs.
Great, thanks. Brian, as we do look out to the recovery later this year and beyond, I’d be interested in what you’re seeing so far in terms of a more flexible workforce using Airbnb for both sides of their travel, meaning they use Airbnb to monetize their home in one location to fund a longer-term stay somewhere else and how you see the size of that opportunity as more mobility becomes possible for a workforce that’s got the taste for it.
Yes, that’s a really good question. I want to really underscore this point, the way – let me kind of – let me say this, travel will come back, but when travel comes back, we believe it’s going to look different than before. We don’t think we’re ever going back to the world of travel in 2019, it’s going to change and it’s going to be different. And probably, the biggest difference we’ve seen is flexibility. A world of Zoom is a world, where more people can work from home and a world, where more people have the flexibility of work from home. We’re seeing more people say they can work for many home on Airbnb. And so we’ve seen a number of new use cases.
People are living more nomadically. Some people are taking longer-term stays, one or two months at a time in our Airbnb. People are taking extended three, four-day weekends. So, like many weekends in a row, because they don’t have to be in the physical office. And many people are snowboarding, they’re like essentially living in somewhere cold and they want to go somewhere warm. They have the flexibility to do that. The other thing you’ve mentioned is new people hosting. One of the things we found is that many people like to start hosting at the beginning of a life change.
Maybe, somebody has kids and the kids move out of the house. They got some extra bedrooms. Maybe, they were recently unemployed. They recently lost their job, or they’re now living more remotely and their home is more available. So, one of the things that we’re really excited about is as we see more flexibility and more week or month long stays, there’s more empty homes people are leaving behind. And our largest source of hosts in 2019 were prior guests, 23% of our hosts in 2019 were guests first. As we think, there’s big opportunities for us to continue to convert our guests to become hosts. And this new world of flexibility means more empty homes that can be shared.
Thank you very much, Brian.
Thank you.
And your next question comes from Lloyd Walmsley with Deutsche Bank.
Well, thanks for taking the question. two, if I can. first, Brian, you guys talked about made possible by host. Can you just talk a little bit more broadly about the supply acquisition strategy and what you’re doing kind of near-term, the buildup supply in markets close to cities, as well as longer-term to continue to sustain your growth. And is there an opportunity to get more productivity out of existing supplier will most of the long-term growth come from new supply. And then the second question as you guys prepare for the rebound and travel, how are you approaching performance marketing differently in terms of maybe, scale and expected ROIs in 2021 versus say 2019 and 2020 that the shareholder letter talks about materially increasing marketing efficiency. So, if you could explain that a little bit more, that would be great. Thanks.
Yes. these are two really good questions. Thank you for them. I’ll start with supply, then I’ll go to performance marketing. on supply, let’s just start framing it. We have about four million hosts on Airbnb. 90% of our hosts are individual hosts. These are everyday people, typically school teachers, healthcare workers, students, 55% of them are women. And the vast majority of them come direct to Airbnb. So most of our hosts, we don’t have to acquire per se. They come organically, often because they’ve heard of Airbnb. Their friends have recommended it to them, who are also hosts for – because as I mentioned before, 23% of our hosts in 2019 were prior guests.
The second point I’d make is our model is pretty adaptable. So, we have hosts [ph] in 100,000 communities. One of the things we’re seeing is a change of travel patterns right now in the pandemic. people aren’t just looking to go to the same 20 cities or 30 cities. They now want to get in cars and travel the local communities nearby. That means a travel in a sense is being redistributed to thousands of communities. This helps us smooth out any supply demand gaps that we might have, but we do have a number of levers to add supply.
Let me start by saying yes, our existing hosts rent their homes only occasionally. So, we see huge opportunities for productivity. The average host on Airbnb makes like under $10,000 a year and they do that by renting out just occasionally. So, we think there’s a huge opportunity to increase productivity of the hosts that we already have. That being said, we also think now is the time that people are interested in hosting more than ever before. Airbnb – we started Airbnb in a recession and during the recession of 2008; people were losing their jobs, losing their homes and many people turned to Airbnb for income. We think now hosting is as appealing as ever before, given the economic circumstances happening in this country and around the world. And so we’re doing a few things, made possible by host is a global campaign it’s as I said, our first global campaign in five years. And we think if this campaign successful, this can absolutely mainstream hosting and bring a lot of people to our platform.
In addition, we’re doing a companion campaign called made possible by hosting. And that’s going to talk about all the benefits of hosting, and we’re going to really target people that are going through a life transition. As I said, people that just renovated their home, bought a new house, lost their job. Maybe, they’re retired, maybe, their kids moved out of the house. So, we think this is a really great way to be able to target and recruit more hosts. Once they come to Airbnb, we want to make it more – we want to increase the conversion rate of people come to Airbnb and then listing, an active listing on Airbnb.
conversion rates the name of the game, one of the things we’ve learned about conversion rate is easier to make something. And the more support you offer to somebody, the more likely they’re going to get through the conversion funnel. So, we’re reducing the steps. We’re going to allow you to become a host in less than 10 minutes. And if you need help, you can call customer service or we’re going to match you to existing hosts to be able to support you along this journey. If we do these things, I think we’ll be able to add a significant amount of more hosts, because the average person around the world that they knew that they can make some extra money by meeting interesting people. A lot more people would do it.
Now, the next question is about marketing performance marketing. And let me just also take a step back and talk a little bit more about our marketing strategy, because I think this is very important to the corporate story. In 2019, we had elevated spending of performance marketing and then 2020 occurred, our business dropped by 80% in eight weeks. And we pulled back all marketing, including performance marketing. But something remarkable happened even before we started resuming our marketing spend, our traffic levels came back to 95% of the traffic levels of 2019 without any marketing spend. And what this revealed is that our brand is inherently strong. It’s a noun and verb in pop culture. And so we don’t intend to ever against, then the amount of money as a percentage of revenue on marketing in the future as we did in 2019. in Q4, 90% of our – more than 90% of our traffic was direct or unpaid.
And we think that will continue in the future. our marketing plan; therefore, our strategy is the following, a full funnel marketing approach. The top of the funnel was actually PR. we got more than 0.5 million articles in last year in 2020. And we had as much share of voice as most of the other major travel companies combined. And that’s how we really built the brand of Airbnb more than anything; probably with PR.
second is brand marketing, we think of brand marketing as education and investment. And so made possible by hosting is by hosts is an investment in hosting. and then performance marketing, we don’t treat performance marketing like other travel companies. We think of it as like a laser. It’s not a way to arbitrage users. It’s a way to laser in on where we want to acquire guests or hosts and key markets, where we have a supplier demand mismatch, but make no mistake our efficiencies, we’re going to hold to a lot higher level than 2019 or years prior. I don’t know if Dave, you want to share anything else about that?
Yes, I think you’ve covered really well. I’ll just round it out by saying that we’ll continue to use performance marketing, where it makes economic sense to do so. It’s absolutely important level and we’ll absolutely continue to do it. We’re just going to have a higher rate of return expectation on the performance marketing spend and we’ll return to the levels that we saw in 2019. Our sales and marketing expenses as a percentage of revenue in 2021 will be below that of 2019. The absolute dollars in 2021 will be below that of 2019. And I guess I’ll run this out by saying that, because of the marketing campaign that made possible by hosts as launching now and in advance of the summer travel season, you’re going to see sales and marketing as a percentage of revenue higher than the first half of this year that you are in the second half.
All right. Very helpful. Thank you.
And your next question comes from Justin Post with bank of America.
Great, thank you. A couple of questions; obviously, a lot of cost discipline this year to get too close to break even by Q4, which is pretty remarkable. How are you thinking about balancing that? And do you have any margin targets in mind as we think about modeling 2021?
And then secondly, very interesting and I’m sure you have a lot of incentives to get more hosts. Do you think there’s a lot of latent post offerings that will come online once people get through the health issues? I guess another way of asking, do you think a lot of hosts have pulled their listings and we’ll be back as soon as they feel more comfortable. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Justin. Why don’t I start? And then I’ll let Dave elaborate. Let me just start at a high level about cost discipline. We would have, of course, like everyone else never asked for last year’s crisis. but I do think that crisis made us a much better company, because the first thing that happened is we got more disciplined. when our business was precipitously falling, we knew we couldn’t focus on everything. So, we focused on what was most special about Airbnb. That was our individual post. It means we scaled back numerous investments, but something else Justin we found was as we focused, what it really meant was, we’re taking our very best people and putting on the most important problem. And as we did that, and not only saved money actually drove more growth. I think that in addition to the inherent adaptability remodel does explain why we’re able to see a fairly strong recovery in the back half of last year. I’ll let Dave talk a little bit more about margin targets, but I’ll just also get to host and I’ll hand over to dave.
on latent host offering and/or this question of did hosts pull back and do they intend to host again? What we know is this. In any given day, we have a certain number of hosts active and live in the platform. We know that when hosts deactivate, it’s often not permanent, it’s because they’re taking a break from hosting and we know many hosts are intending to host once again. And so one of the things we’re doing as I did a Q&A town hall with thousands of hosts. And I basically said to them together, we have to be ready and we want to be prepared for this travel season. And our goal to collectively with our hosts is to be ready before the rebound happens. We’d rather be early than late. And so we do expect a lot of hosts to be ready.
And one of the dynamics we basically found is one of the nice things about our business is as a host gets more booked up, they often either expand by adding a listing or more likely they’ll tell their friends, who also become hosts. So with occupancy rise, it does have a nice, nice benefit, where word gets out, that people are making money. And if we can fulfill that with a couple of minutes out with our brand campaign, I think it could yield quite a few gains. Dave, do you want to cover either of these?
Yes. I’ll just round it out by saying; the overall number of active listening to experiences was relatively stable in Q4 relative to Q3 at about $5.6 million. So we actually haven’t seen a substantial amount of deactivations, it’s been very stable and for all the reasons that Brian said earlier, we’re optimistic that we’ll continue to be adding new hosts in the future, just given all of the tailwinds of the kind of macroeconomic factors that we have going around the world. As far as margin targets, one of the things we’re really proud of is the progress we’ve made on our profitability efficiency over 2020, right. We’ve made substantial reductions in our fixed costs. We will not be having to add back fixed costs to support a business that will again, approach 2019 levels and beyond. And so our fixed cost discipline is great and we’ll continue.
And then we saw really great improvement in our variable cost efficiency across the P&L. And when you actually removed in Q4, remove the one-time impacts and stock-based compensation relative to the IPO, or our costs are down in every category across our P&L. And it’s that discipline at very low expenses, things like cost of payments, community support expenses, infrastructure expenses, all the way down that we’re proud of. And what we would like to – expect to achieve over time is 30% EBITDA margins or greater. And this has just accelerated our path towards those long-term margin targets.
I’d love to give you on specific targets for 2021, but it’s just too hard to know what our revenue is going to be. And so therefore kind of a flow through to profitability, we’re seeing that our revenue rates in Q1 will be better than the revenue growth rates in Q4. But we just don’t have a lot of visibility in the back half of the year to give you a lot of guidance on profitability right now.
Great. Thank you.
And your next question comes from Jed Kelly with Oppenheimer.
Great. Thanks for taking my question. two if I may. just one, can you provide any color on how your bookings for summer travel are trending relative to this time last year. and then Brian, what do you think the Olympics could do just to get people’s confidence in traveling, especially around international travel? Thank you.
Thank you for the question. Dave maybe, you can take summer travel and I’ll take Olympics.
Sure. Yes. I don’t have a lot of color that I can give you on summer travel bookings. I mean, one thing, which I can say is that people are booking in shorter windows. So, the greatest growth we’re seeing in the business right now are booking windows in less than 30 days and typically, kind of pre-COVID, you’re right. We’d be seeing much more of the bookings now it had for the summer travel season, and that is delayed relative to kind of historic patterns. We’re seeing some bright spots as in a little bit of a bright spot in the UK, dragging some summer travel bookings here in Q1. but I really don’t have a more color that I can give to you on summer expectations. We just know that we want to be ready for the travel rebound when it occurs. We just don’t know exactly when it will occur.
And then on the question of the Olympics, just we are – we are a sponsor of the Olympics and if the Olympics has fans, I think, it would be a great boon to travel. but I don’t think it’s clear this year in Tokyo that we’ll have fans. So, we’ll have to see how that goes. So, I can just comment more broadly about what we’re seeing with travel demand. We did a survey recently of American travelers and we found a couple of things. The first thing we found is that people missed traveling, that’s not surprising, but we also found that people missed traveling more than any other out-of-home activity. People missed traveling more in America than going to a restaurant, going to sports, live music or other activities, but they don’t miss all kinds of traveling.
Generally, people don’t miss traveling for business as much, and they generally don’t miss mass tourism. They’re generally not missing standing in a line with selfie sticks in front of a landmark for example, or going to a crowded lobby. the kind of travel that people missed is spending meaningful time that the people they care about, their friends and their families. And so we found that the majority of people we surveyed said, they do plan to travel this year. They will do it as soon as they feel safe to do so. So obviously, that’s going to be pegged a little bit to the health crisis. but we see a lot of enthusiasm and I think the kind of travel that we offer, allows people to be able to connect with our friends and family, because our home is a great way to be able to gather and spend a meaningful quality time and that is very much what we’re focused on. We think this is a huge window of opportunity, this travel rebound, and I think it’s going to be disproportionately our travel rebound that’s not going to be cross border. It’s not going to be business travel. People want to get in cars, they’re going to travel to smaller communities, and they’re also going to be staying in home. So, we are prepared or we’re going to be prepared for that.
Thank you.
And your next question comes from Brent Thill with Jefferies.
Thanks, Brian. Just if you could comment on the experience business and what you’re seeing there and how important that is to the overall strategy right now. And also, as we come back through this recovery, can you just talk to the other element of the stay, which could be the hotel, and I know you’ve invested there. How important will that be as we go back to the upswing of this travel cycle?
Yes. Thanks for questioning, Brent. So yes, I’ll talk about experiences and hotels. So with experiences, this is a very important product for us. Experiences are one of the purest manifestations of hosting and connection that we have. I mean, in a sense that is the entire product. You have an experience with a host when you connect with other guests. So, this is really important to us. And what we found statistically is that guests on Airbnb actually life experiences, statistically, more than home.
For example, more guests leave a five star review after their experience than they do after a home, as a percentage of – after the reservations. So, we thought last year was going to be a breakout year for experiences, but the opposite happened. We had to put the product on hold with social distancing. So, very quickly pivoted the product to create online experiences, because people couldn’t gather in person. We created one hour activities that you could do from your computer. These were different than Instagram, like videos or YouTube videos. These are actually interactive. So, you actually can connect with a host and you can meet other guests and people are using these, because they’re feeling more isolated and they want to meet other people. And I think as the world starts opening back up, I think we’re very bullish on experiences over the coming years, because when people travel, they’re going to want to do something interesting.
And I don’t think they’re all going to desire to go back to getting on double-decker buses and waiting in line and crowded lobbies, or landmarks. they’re going to want to do really interesting activities and I think that’s what our hosts have to offer. And then for people in their own city, I think, you can only sit at home and watch so many shows on Netflix. People will want to get out of their home. And if they want to alternate to a restaurant, I think experiences are a great thing to do in their own city. So, the short answer is that we’re very focused on it. We had to take a bit of a pause last year, but they’re coming back and we’re going to be focused on it, because it’s just another way of hosting. And this is one of many ways that we’re going to continue to allow hosts, to be able to share the world with others.
Now, with regards to hotels, this is a little bit of a different story. We made an acquisition of hotel tonight. I’m very proud of the acquisition. I’m very glad we made it. It’s a great team, a great app. It’s one of the most loved hotel booking apps in the world. And we were investing quite heavily in this product. Now, when the crisis happened, we had to scale back certain investments. And one of the investments we scaled back was our investment in hotels, but we ain’t scale back entirely. We still are investing in hotels, just not as much as before. The way we think of hotels is the way essentially we think about property managers on Airbnb. Airbnb is a community of 4 million hosts; 90% are individuals, and they are who we prioritize, that’s where our guests speak, our guests want something that’s one of a kind, and this is typically offered by our individual hosts. But that being said, we never want Airbnb guests to come to Airbnb and not be able to find something they’re looking for.
So, we think that hotels in addition to property, managers are really important for our strategy instilling in our network apps. Again, we don’t want anyone to come to Airbnb and beat, because they couldn’t find a place to stay. So, hotels are important. And as we know, most hotels around the world are below 50% occupancy. So, we know they’re in need of demand and Airbnb certainly, can provide that demand for them. So that’s what we’re doing with experiences and hotels, both part of our strategy in the future.
Thank you.
And your next question comes from Colin Sebastian with Baird.
Great, thanks and good afternoon. A couple of questions from me, really follow-ups. But given some of the expense rationalization last year, how confident are you at this point that you have the team and the infrastructure in place to handle more rapid rebound and travel if that’s what does transpire over the course of the year? And then I know this may be a little bit difficult to answer at this point. You addressed it a little bit earlier, but some of the newer use cases such as long-term stays in shorter trips, do you have a view into whether those can be sustainable or incremental over what were normal use cases pre-pandemic? Thank you.
Yes. Really, good question. So, let me start with being able to handle the rebound in the face of reductions. And then I’ll go to new use cases, and Dave will fill in as needed. With regards to the reductions, a lot of the reductions have just made us significantly more efficient and be able to handle the rebound. One of the big changes we made – or really, there were two big changes we made. The first big change we made is that we got much more focused. So, it means we scaled back a lot of new investment areas and put our very best people on only a few problems, especially our core of hosting.
But the other thing we did is because of that we shifted from a divisional business unit structure to a functional organization. And this reduced lots of people case with the function, instead of having multiple marketing departments, most multiple product departments, multiple operations group, we now have one technology group, one marketing group, one operations group, and this made us not only more efficient being able to turn on a dime much more quickly. So, we are preparing for this next rebound. I think that we are much more efficient. Those reductions will be able to sustain, the one group that that’s up the scale a little more linearly, is customer service. We are scaling that ahead of demand, but making a mistake, even that is going to be significantly more efficient.
We hired a woman, who running our operations name Tara Bunch. She ran all customer service at Apple for many years, and she has built a great team, including new leaders for trust and community support. And we are focused on improving efficiency by reducing contact rates. We are very, very focused on reducing the need for people to call us or message us, because they have a problem. If they do have to call us or message us, we are going to focus on making our agents significantly more efficient. So that’s a really big focus area on the reductions.
Now, on the new use cases, the short answer is yes, we do believe these new use cases are sustainable. Though we can’t predict the future, we do know a few things to be true. Many of the reasons why people are using Airbnb for new use cases is because technology has digitized so much of the world that we can now do things remotely, we couldn’t do before.
So what this means is, because more people can work from home on a laptop, that means they can work out of any home. And so we think in the future, fewer people are going to be tethered to a permanent destination. And even people who are going to take more three-day weekends, they might be more likely to go away for the summer. And we think that in addition to the kind of short-term state, these medium length space a couple of weeks, or even a couple of months, we think these are going to be a really big part of the story. I guess the headline is this; people aren’t just traveling on and live on Airbnb. They’re now living on Airbnb. And I think that’s here to stay. Dave, I’ll hand it over to you.
Yes. I’ll keep the things at round out is that we’re – I’m very happy with the underlying progress we’ve made in our operations support area, in terms of improving the efficiency there. We are making some investments in it in 2021, that’s going to mask some of the underlying progress that we get to see internally. And the other thing that was happening as Brian said, we’re making sure that we’re ready for the rebound when it occurs, which means that we are going to be investing slightly more earlier in the year to make sure that we have all the support ready for a return to travel and being optimistic that it will return soon. And so with relatively more revenue in the first half than the second half, our operations support expenses, as a percent of revenue will be – sorry, it will be a little bit higher in the first half and the second half.
Great, thank you.
And your next question comes from Michael Graham with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. please go ahead.
Oh, sorry. I was on mute. Pardon me. Two quick questions; one, on pricing, you mentioned that your average daily rate was up in the shareholder letter, because of mix shift towards North America partially, but as demand is really robust in some of these areas, can you just talk about how hosts are reacting in terms of setting price and are you seeing them get more opportunistic? And then the other one I wanted to ask was, you talked a little bit about the steps you’re taking to simplify host onboarding. Can you just talk about the steps you’re also taking to simplify that guest experience?
Thank you, Michael. Why don’t I start with simplifying the guest experience and Dave, I can hand it over to you for pricing. So, yes. As we said, to prepare for this travel rebound this summer, we’re doing four things. We’re going to educate the world and Airbnb, what makes them be different, that’s hosting. We’re going to simplify – we’re going to recruit more hosts. We’re going to simplify the guest experience. So, we’re going to deliver world-class service. So, let’s talk about your question simplifying the guest experience.
One of the things we know is that as we make something easier, the conversion rate goes up. And so we have a goal that can – to make it even easier to be able to book on Airbnb. So, we’re going to be reducing steps – significantly reducing steps to be able to log in, sign on, get verified, go through the key steps you need to be able to do and be able to find a place on Airbnb. So, we’re looking at the entire end-to-end experience, and we’re going to be doing a bit of a redesign of it over the coming months. I think this is going to be great the next travel season.
But the other thing we’re doing, and I want to highlight this, because this is something that I highlight in the very beginning is we’re also changing how Airbnb works, because the whole paradigm that how people search travel is now changed, because today, this year, thus far 40% of people come to Airbnb and they either no longer know, where they’re going or when they’re going, in other words, they’re flexible. And this is a major change, because every travel company has a search box, because people know where they’re going. And so they ask, where are you going? And they have a date and say, check in on this date, check out on that date. This whole new world, that’s much more flexible, means that when people are more open-minded, we can direct demand to where we have supply. And we can actually elevate not just destination, but unique homes that can become the destination. So, we think this is going to change how people search, because it also means that people wouldn’t be more likely to look for something that’s unique and special. And I think that really sets Airbnb up nicely. So that’s what we’re going to do to simplify the guest experience. Dave, I’ll hand over to you.
In regards to ADR, we did see elevated rates of – average daily rate in Q4 was up 13% year-over-year. We’re seeing almost all of that is just a form of mix. It’s a mix towards North America, which has higher ADR, entire homes and less urban areas, each of which are – have higher average daily rates. So, we’re actually not seeing new hosts, increased the rate of inflation of the same property year-over-year. I’m sure some are doing it, but we’re not seeing it a material level overall.
Thank you.
And your next question comes from Jason Bazinet with Citi.
Maybe, my numbers are wrong, but when I look back over the last five years, it seems as though you’ve actually widened the gap between yourself and your competitors in the alternative segment. And I just wonder, now that it’s sort of dawned on everyone, as you say that the travel is going to change permanently. Have you seen, or do you anticipate sort of heightened, competitive intensity relative to what the historical financials would suggest? Thanks.
Thank you very much for the question, Jason. I’ll just – yes, I’ll start by saying a couple of things. Number one, travel is one of the largest industries in the world and makes up a significant amount of global GDP as I believe one in 10 new jobs was created in the travel industry before the pandemic. So, the first thing I want you to say is this is such a large market. Its multiples larger than like the advertising industry, just to give you a point of reference. And so we think there’s room for a lot of companies.
Now with regards to more competition in our space, I mean, we’ve really been seeing this competition for like the last five years actually. I don’t think it’s really that different. What I have found though is this, I think that fundamentally, Airbnb, we’re in a bit of a different space than our competitors, because Airbnb, we are focused primarily on individual host. They can price 90% of our 4 million hosts. And OTAs are primarily focused on professional hosts. We have professional host as well, and we think professional hosts will probably list on any site that provides a great experience and give them high-quality guests. And we of course, will do that, but we think individual hosts are less likely to want to listen to multiple platforms. We’re the only platform that has a custom built platform designed specifically for individual hosts.
We solved a lot of the really hard problems that individual host needs like the system of trust. Individual hosts want to know the quality for example, of their guest, 70% of hosts leave a review of guests after the stay. And that means, for example, a lot of guests actually have reviews. That’s just one of many examples of the kind of custom built platform we’ve made for individual hosts. And so I don’t think competition is anything different, but I also think we’re a bit of a category of one in the sense that we are really focused on the individual host as our primary opportunity area.
That’s super-interesting. Thank you.
And your next question comes from Justin Patterson with KeyBanc.
Great. Thank you very much. We’ve spoken a lot on discovery and just how travel is changing. I’m curious to hear how you’re thinking of helping individual hosts improve their level of service. Just you can make sure that special trips keep happening on Airbnb. And mine is a quick follow-up, it’s got a great asset with your payments platform. I’d love to hear about just how you see that investment evolving and where do you see more opportunity to provide value either to hosts or guests? Thank you.
Great questions. So, why don’t I start with hosts and then we’re going to payments and I’ll let Dave so – elaborate on payments. So, one of the things we’re gaining is in addition to recruiting more hosts this year, we want to make sure our hosts are set up to succeed. and to be able to set up for success, they have to provide great experiences, because they’re reviewed after the stay obviously.
And so we’re working on a number of tools. We’re going to be developing a bit more host education to be able to educate host. We have a Host Advisory Board that has 17 hosts that come from 14 countries and they’re going to be advising us on features that we build to be able to help our hosts be successful. We have a number of tools we’re investing in, pricing tools to help them price their listing and improving our calendar tools, giving them more tips to provide better experiences. We’re going to be updating the way, the information we collect and reviews to be able to give more helpful feedback to hosts.
And I’ll just say at a more fundamental level that this person managing our host organization is a woman named Catherine Powell. As I said, she is an executive from Disney. She managed the Disney cast members, and that seems to me, they created a Disney University, where they did a lot of education and we want to bring a lot of those learnings to educating our hosts. We don’t think we’re just a distribution platform for our hosts. We’re really an enablement platform and we want to make sure we build all the tools and services, and educational materials that they need to be able to be successful.
The last thing I’ll just say with our hosts is we’re also going to be providing elevated levels of customer service to our hosts. And we think, we can do this well, even becoming more efficient on the cost of customer service. So that is what we’re doing for hosts. Now on payments, I’ll start and I’ll hand over to Dave, just to give a point of reference. In 2019, we processed approximately $70 billion of guest and host transaction and this was an over 40 tenancies across 220 countries and regions.
So, we think this is a really unique capability that we have. The reason we even built a payments platform in the first place is, because we started with individual hosts. We didn’t start with hotels and individual people couldn’t actually receive money very easily and we were – because we’re such a global network, we’re in nearly every country in the world. We actually have to have a really custom built payment platform to be able to facilitate money between these countries. So, it’s very strategic to this company. And I think it’s one of the kind of best kept secrets of Airbnb, our payments capability. Dave, you want elaborate on it?
Yes. I mean, we process 100% of the guests payments on Airbnb and it’s super-powerful, individual hosts would not be able to host without us processing those payments for us. So, if you look at competitors that have substantially lower penetration of payments, it is a definite pinpoint for individuals, because it’s not like they can do it on their own. And it also does other benefit that as we add more payment methods in, as Brian said, 140 countries across the globe. We keep working on ways to localize these payment methods in all the different countries. The payment methods and customs in Brazil are different than those of Russia; they’re different than those in France, different than those in the United States. And so we really want to localize these payment methods and we get a double benefit of that. One is, we often decrease our costs by being more local and the second is often to increase our conversion. So, those are all great benefits.
Great. Thank you.
[Operator Instructions] And your next question comes from Stephen Ju with Credit Suisse.
Okay. Thank you. So Brian, what do you think is a gap in awareness of Airbnb between your more well-established markets like the U.S. and some of your emerging territories and why do you think the corresponding difference in activity that you see between the developed versus emerging territories that you can look to close?
And I guess secondarily, this is probably not the best question to ask while your host is still struggling with request demand. but the fees that you are charging seem to be fairly minimal especially through the individual hosts. So, is there a greater desire to start shifting that takeaway burden away from the consumer perhaps gradually overtime, or do you feel like you want to continue on this current path as there’s probably so much more supply out there that you might want to consolidate have the lock onto Airbnb? Thanks.
Thank you for the question, Steven. I’ll answer the first question. I’ll let Dave answer the second. With regards to the question about the gap of awareness between a mature markets and our new markets. Yes. I mean, our brand is extremely strong in countries all over the world. but in particular, United States, France, UK, Australia, Canada, English speaking countries, and then France, I think in particular non-English speaking country. but it’s got an extremely strong kind of culture of using Airbnb over many years. There is absolutely a gap between those and new emerging market. but this is an exciting opportunity, because the biggest gap is awareness. And what we found pretty universally is in nearly every country in the world, once the awareness normalizes, the growth rates and the volume of business gets to be approximately similar. So, the major thing we need to do is just increase awareness for Airbnb in our emerging markets.
We’re starting this year with investing more in brand marketing. We’re going to be doing digital advertising all over the world. And I expect in the coming years, we’re going to be targeting key countries that are emerging opportunities for us. We’ve had a lot of success in Japan over the last few years. We’ve been on a really long journey to build that business. We had great success in Mexico, Brazil, numerous countries and different countries all over the world. And I do think we are this near by farthe most global network and all travel. There’s very few corners in the world, where Airbnb doesn’t have a strong community, but I do think that we have a very big opportunity to grow in other countries. And I think in particular, once cross border travel reemerges it, and it will in the coming year, there’s going to be a huge opportunity for us. Dave, I’ll hand you for the second question.
Great. On fees, it’s just important that we charge a really fair price for stays in Airbnb and we continue to have a great value. We believe that we do have a great value there. You can have a whole home for the price of a typical hotel, is the other way when we look at our fees, we want to make sure that those fees are great value to both guests and to hosts and we do have a mix of those fees. In some cases, we have a mix of a low host fee and a higher guest fee. And then for some of our professional hosts, we’ll have a host only fee and all of it is on the host side. And so we’ll see a mix. The mix could change over time. We continue to test and evolve to see what works best for our guests, our hosts, and we’ll just continue to evolve and iterate to make sure that we provide the best value to the overall community.
Overall, kind of the philosophy is, as we give more back to the community in terms of services and capability than we would – could see opportunities for further increases uptake rate. But we would always want to give more back to the community before we would increase that take rate.
Thank you.
And your next question comes from Mario Lu with Barclays.
Great. Thanks for taking the questions. In terms of the guest profile in 2020, just shares that the recent trends in travel such as domestic, non-urban and whole homes thought in a larger mix of new guests in 2020 versus 2019, and could that potentially drive further growth and future years?
And then secondly, kind of occupancy you mentioned [Technical Difficulty] had been around 17% pre-COVID. So, what would you say are the largest drivers in order to move that rate higher over time? Thanks.
On the mix of new guests, it has been a great opportunity to introduce Airbnb to new driving 50 miles down the road [Technical Difficulty]. So, I would say that the rebound of our business has still been skewed moderately back towards existing guests, guests that know all about Airbnb and all the benefits that we have. So, we think it’s been a great opportunity to expose it. But I wouldn’t say that the – it’s disproportionately been new guests coming into Airbnb now. But at the same time, I think we are just becoming more of a mainstream opportunity for people that it’s no longer the alternative. We really are the default.
On occupancy rates, occupancy is kind of Brian mentioned earlier is just an area that can flux over time that, we can also get drive up the occupancy of the existing property. So, we don’t need to necessarily increase the number of listings to drive incremental nights, but it is an opportunity that as we get more nights, we can also bring in people that are more flexible in the times like if they’re traveling for a week, maybe they only use their home for a whole week. So, occupancy is probably not the best measure of performance on Airbnb, because if you’re an individual host, it’s not like you want to constantly drive up the use of your existing home. You just want to make sure that the home is available some part of the time during the year.
Right. That makes sense.
Okay. And your next question comes from Kevin Kopelman with Cowen.
Great. Thanks so much. So, during the pandemic, you’ve seen kind of these sunscreen [ph] suburban properties do really as well. As we’ve started to see some pickup here in booking activity with the COVID cases falling especially for the summer, can you talk about what you’re seeing in some of the urban areas that have been hardest hit by the pandemic and also maybe, the kind of big picture outlook for those urban properties as we emerge?
Yes. Dave, I think this would be great for you.
Sure. Urban is still a really important part of our business. We have over 40% of our nights are still are urban and it’s just the non-urban and low density urban is the place, where we’re seeing the greater growth right now. So, it’s still a really important part. And as probable returns that we’re going to find is there are number of hotels that actually aren’t going to be coming back online anytime soon. Brian also talked about the redistribution of a bit of travel, where people are going to go to some smaller communities that may not even have hotels. And so as this mix that’s going to be kind of changing over time and as travel rebounds, I think we’ll see continue to see nice growth in the non-urban and low density urban, and urban comes back, that would just be another tailwind for us.
Thanks so much.
Okay.
And that is all the time we have for questions. I will now turn the call back over to the company for closing remarks.
Thank you, everyone for joining us today for our first earnings call as a public company. Before I end today, I just want to end by thanking all of you, our shareholders to our early shareholders, thank you for sticking with us and to all of our new shareholders. Thanks for joining us on this journey. It’s just beginning. we look forward to sharing our progress this year with you. Thank you.
This does conclude today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.