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Earnings Call Analysis

Q3-2023 Analysis
Corsair Gaming Inc

Corsair's Strong Growth and Margin Expansion

Corsair Gaming reported a robust third quarter in 2023, with significant revenue and profit growth. Revenues increased by 16.5% to $363.2 million, while adjusted net income soared by 75.7%. Gross margins also improved from 23% to 24.6% year-on-year due to higher average selling prices (ASP), new product launches, and normalized industry promotional activities. New gaming releases have stimulated higher demand for hardware. Memory products alone contributed $131.7 million in revenue, up from $115.2 million the previous year. Moreover, gross profit saw a substantial lift to $89.4 million from $71.6 million, reflecting the gains. Operating expenses increased modestly by 10.6% to $74 million, yet the company remains well-positioned for future growth following successful product launches and a reinforced market share.

Significant Revenue and Profit Growth in Q3

Corsair Gaming has reported a strong financial performance in the third quarter of 2023, with a notable uptick of 16.5% in revenue compared to the same period last year, amounting to $363.2 million. This growth was accompanied by a staggering 75.7% rise in adjusted net income, signaling robust profitability and financial health.

Expansion of Gross Margins Fueled by New Products

The company has successfully expanded its gross margins to 24.6%, up from 23% a year earlier, driven in part by the introduction of new products which have not only contributed to an uplift in Average Selling Prices (ASP) but also a healthier inventory level and more normalized promotional practices. The company's latest offerings, such as innovative gaming peripherals and systems, have resonated with consumers eager for the newest gaming titles that demand high-performance hardware.

Market Beating Growth and Positive Outlook for Future Sales

Corsair's growth outpaces the market, with gaming hardware spending considerably elevated above pre-pandemic levels – a trend expected to continue as new competitive gamers and hardware enthusiasts drive future sales. A recent survey by DFC Intelligence indicates a robust pipeline for future growth, with 84% of enthused PC gamers planning new system purchases in the next 24 months. Expectations are set for new product launches to favorably impact market share in the last quarter of 2023 and into 2024, further positioning Corsair for success.

Sustained Strong Performance through Product Segments

Corsair's Gaming Components & Systems segment outshone with a revenue of $272.8 million, a significant 26.9% increase from the previous year's third quarter. The Memory Products subsegment also performed well with a commendable increase in revenues. On the other hand, the Gamer and Creator Peripheral segment saw lowered revenues at $90.4 million, as opposed to $96.8 million in the prior year, underscoring some market challenges even as the overall portfolio performed well.

Improvement in Liquidity and Debt Reduction

With optimized financial management, the company has managed to decrease its debt burden in Q3, maintaining excellent liquidity to take advantage of emerging opportunities. This financial agility speaks to a strategic approach to debt management and investment capability, ensuring Corsair is well-positioned for potential growth avenues.

European Market Shows Recovery Signs

Although the European markets are not as robust as the Americas, there's a positive indication of improvement. Europe contributed to about 36.5% of Corsair's revenues, illustrating a slight increase from the previous quarter and showing potential for additional recovery and growth.

Increased Investments and Operating Expenses

As part of its growth strategy, the company's third-quarter Selling, General, and Administrative (SG&A) expenses saw a 10.6% rise to $74 million. These increased expenses can be attributed to the investments Corsair is making in growth initiatives and operational enhancements.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q3

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Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Corsair Gaming Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded, and your participation implies consent to such recording. [Operator Instructions] With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Ronald Van Veen, Corsair's Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Thank you, sir. Please begin.

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Ronald Van Veen
executive

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Corsair's Financial Results Conference Call for the Third Quarter ended September 30, 2023.

On the call today, we have Corsair CEO, Andy Paul; and CFO, Michael Potter. Andy will review highlights from the quarter. Michael will then review the financials and our outlook. We will then have time for any questions.

Before we begin, allow me to provide a disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements. This call, including the Q&A portion of the call, may include forward-looking statements related to the expected future results of our company and are therefore forward-looking statements. Our actual results may differ materially from our projections due to a number of risks and uncertainties. The risks and uncertainties that forward-looking statements are subject to are described in our earnings release and other SEC filings.

Today's remarks will also include references to non-GAAP financial measures. Additional information, including reconciliation between non-GAAP financial information to the GAAP financial information, is provided in the press release we issued after the market post today.

With that, I'll now turn the call over to Andy.

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Andrew Paul
executive

Thank you, Ronald, and welcome, everyone, to our earnings call. The key takeaways for Q3 are: first, we achieved strong revenue and profit growth with Q3 revenue growth of 16.5% and adjusted net income growth of 75.7% on a year-on-year basis.

Second, we continue to drive gross margin expansion. We're seeing an uplift in ASP and margin from new products, along with a return to a healthier inventory level and more normal promotional practices across the industry.

Third, the full slate of major new titles being released continue to drive new demand from gamers for both our triples and systems. New popular releases like Starfield, Diablo IV, [ Baldur's Gate ] and Cyberpunk serve as positive catalysts, given the increased hardware requirements needed to run these games at maximum settings. Overall, we are pleased with our progress and the momentum we're building.

Now let me take a few minutes to expand on these points. First off, strong growth in Q3. While we're seeing that consumer markets in general are softer in 2023, we can see that the gaming hardware, the spending is close to 2022 and far elevated compared to pre-pandemic periods. In fact, roughly 50% higher for both gaming peripherals and components compared to 2019. At this point, we are beating the market with growth, and that reflects the momentum we are getting from our new product launches.

Our recent survey from DFC Intelligence found that 84% of PC enthusiasm gamers, who built PC systems in 2020 within the high-speed segment plans to either build or buy new PCs over the next 24 months. This agrees with our observations. We believe that the pandemic added a significant number of gamers, who started to spend on competitive hardware to enhance their game play. We believe that these new competitive gamers and hardware enthusiasts will continue to spend over the next decade.

Secondly, we continue to drive gross margin expansion led by an uplift in ASP in margin from new products, and return to a healthy inventory level and more normal promotional practices across the industry. Gross margins this quarter were 24.6% compared to 23% in Q3 last year.

Thirdly, we've been very active on the new product fund over the past few months. We recently launched several new keyboards in our K70 line that use our own switches and also release high-performance wireless and wired headsets.

Our new HS80 MAX headset features more radios to connect to more devices. And our new wired Virtuoso Pro open back headset has been well received for its excellent sound characteristics.

And we recently brought to market our new PC controller, the Scuf Envision. This is a console star controller with some sticks organized in a PS5 arrangement, but with significant enhancements to sign PC players. While many PC gamers like to use console controllers for certain games, they do not then have the same number of inputs available using a keyboard and mouse. With Scuf Envision, we have added 11 additional inputs, which are fully programmable. This is a game changer for PC gamers, and we were sold out immediately on launch day.

We're also very excited about the recent launch of our Elgato Marketplace. This marketplace allows our growing installed base of stream let users to buy apps and plug-ins from not only our in-house creators, but from over 200 third-party programmers and creators who have partnered with us. We believe this will enrich the experience for Stream Deck users, which will in turn help to accelerate the unit sales and installed base of Stream Deck hardware. This also drives a completely new revenue stream for us.

We also recently launched our Elgato teleprompter, which comes complete with a display in a 2-way mirror, behind which you can mount either an Elgato face cam or any DLSR cameras. This allows streamers or anyone doing a video call to maintain eye contact with people, while looking at content or a script. Priced at $279, this product was also sold out in the first 3 days of launch.

With regard to Q3 inventory, we have a healthy level of inventory in the channel at this point and feel good about our position entering Q4. We expect all aspects of the gaming hardware market to resume growth again, on top of the elevated level of activity that we're now seeing compared to prepandemic. We will start to take our new drop products to the Corsair channel in 2024. And we expect that our new recent product launches will have a positive effect on market share in Q4 of this year as well as in 2024.

Let me now turn the call over to our CFO, Michael Potter, for details on the financials. Michael, please go ahead.

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Michael Potter
executive

Thanks, Andy, and good afternoon, everyone. Our strong Q3 results reflect a continuation of the substantial year-over-year financial improvement that started in the first half of the year. Revenue, gross margin and adjusted EBITDA all improved over the prior year, with very encouraging gross margin recovery in our core peripheral products. We further reduced debt in Q3, and we continue to expect liquidity to remain excellent for the rest of 2023, allowing us to be flexible as opportunities present themselves.

In terms of the specifics, Q3 2023 net revenue was $363.2 million compared to $311.8 million in Q3 2022. For the first 9 months of 2023, net revenue increased 6.8% to [ $1.0426 billion ] from $976.4 million in the year ago period. European markets continue to be softer than Americas, but did show signs of improvement and contributed about 36.5% of our revenues, which is an increase from 32.3% in Q2 '23.

Turning now to our segments. The Gamer and Creator Peripheral segment contributed $90.4 million of net revenue during the third quarter compared to $96.8 million in Q3 2022. For the first 9 months of 2023, Gamer and Creator Peripheral segment revenue was $258.1 million compared to $320 million for the first 9 months of 2022.

The Gaming Components & Systems segment contributed $272.8 million of net revenue during the quarter, an increase of 26.9% from $214.9 million in Q3 2022.

Memory Products contributed $131.7 million in 3Q 2023 compared to $115.2 million in 3Q 2022. For the first 9 months of 2023, Gaming Components & Systems segment revenue increased to $784.5 million from $656.4 million in the first 9 months of 2022. With revenue from Memory Products increasing to $371.9 million from $346.5 million.

Overall gross profit in the third quarter was $89.4 million compared to $71.6 million in Q3 2022, reflecting the higher revenue in the current quarter.

Gross margin increased to 24.6% compared to 23% in Q3 2022. We continue to benefit from improvements in freight costs as well as new product introductions with an uplift from our iCUE LINK products and the latest Stream Deck to name a few.

Overall gross profit increased to $257.6 million for the first 9 months of 2023, compared to $198.8 million in the first 9 months of 2022.

The Gaming Components & Systems segment gross profit was $59.4 million, an increase of 49.4% from $39.8 million in Q3 2022. Gross margin was 21.8% compared to 18.5% in Q3 2022. Our Memory Products gross margins in this segment were 16% for the third quarter compared to 14.4% in Q3 2022.

The third quarter SG&A expenses were $74 million, a 10.6% increase compared to $66.9 million in Q3 2022, reflecting the operating leverage in our business, given the faster rate we grew revenue at.

Third quarter R&D expenses were $16.1 million, up 3% compared to Q3 2022 as we continue to prioritize our investments in new products. GAAP operating loss in the third quarter of 2023 was $758,000 compared to a GAAP operating loss of $11 million in Q3 2022.

Third quarter adjusted operating income was again a bright spot for us, increasing the $19.6 million compared to $5.9 million in Q3 2022. Adjusted operating income increased to $53.6 million for the first 9 months of 2023 from $5 million in the first 9 months of 2022.

Third quarter net loss attributable to common shareholders was $3.1 million or $0.03 per diluted share, as compared to a net loss of $8.9 million or a loss of $0.09 per diluted share in Q3 2022.

On an adjusted basis, third quarter net income improved to $13.4 million or $0.13 per diluted share compared to $7.6 million or $0.08 per share in Q3 2022. For the first 9 months of 2023, adjusted net income improved to $35.1 million or $0.33 per diluted share from an adjusted net loss of $2.2 million or a loss of $0.02 per diluted share in the first 9 months of 2022.

Finally, we increased third quarter adjusted EBITDA to $23 million compared to $10.1 million for Q3 2022. Our Q3 results include the impact of the recently acquired Drop, which resulted in a net decrease of adjusted EBITDA of approximately $1 million. We expect this to turn positive next year as we are excited about the revenue and cross-selling opportunities Drop acquisition provides, and we'll continue to help grow our direct-to-consumer channel. For the first 9 months of 2023, adjusted EBITDA increased to $61.3 million to $14.5 million in the year ago period.

Turning now to our balance sheet. We ended Q3 in a strong financial position with a cash balance, including restricted cash of $147.8 million. This reflects our acquisition of Drop after the close of Q2, which was an all-cash transaction and not material, as well as an investment in inventory ahead of Q4, seasonally our largest quarter.

We ended Q3 with $223.8 million of debt at face value, and our $100 million working capital revolver remains undrawn and fully available. We further reduced debt in Q3 and plan on reducing it again in Q4. Overall, we expect liquidity to remain excellent for the rest of 2023, allowing us to be flexible as opportunities present themselves.

M&A remains a priority for use of cash, but our expected strong cash generation will allow us to continue to reduce outstanding debt on a regular basis.

In terms of the full year 2023, we are adjusting our previous outlook. We now expect total revenue in the range of $1.4 billion to $1.5 billion. Adjusted operating income is now expected to be in the range of $80 million to $90 million and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $95 million to $105 million.

Outlook includes Drop, which we expect to generate a small EBITDA loss in 2023 as we integrate our systems, people and supply chains. We expect this to quickly turn positive in 2024, as we realize the cost savings from this year and generate revenue synergies as well.

We believe that we're well positioned for Q4 and for the year beyond. We have been able to execute well on our plans for 2023, including growing at what has been a tough economic backdrop.

The investment in new products during the downturn last year has allowed us to have a robust new product release schedule this year. These recent releases have both opened up new markets for us and rounded out our existing product lines for our core peripherals market.

So far, the year is inferred in the middle of our expectations. Even at the lower end of our current annual guidance, we're more than doubling our adjusted EBITDA over last year and delivering revenue growth. Gross margins have steadily improved through the year, even with a tougher than normal promotional environment at the beginning of the year. The company has demonstrated that we generate ample cash to carry both M&A and reduce our debt, and our net debt remains low.

With that, we're now happy to open the call for questions. Operator, will you please open the call for Q&A?

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from George Wang with Barclays.

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Dong Wang
analyst

Just firstly, can you kind of give more color in terms of the Drop integration and the synergies you guys alluded to generating positive EBITDA in calendar 2024? Just curious if you can double-click on the revenue and cost synergies going forward.

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Andrew Paul
executive

Well, firstly, George, nice to meet you. We haven't spoken yet. So great to have you on board. So we're not really giving out too many details on Drop. It was obviously a small acquisition. It was slightly negative EBITDA when we bought them. We expect to be able to move that fairly quickly in '24 to a slightly positive EBITDA. And I would say it's not so much cost as most of the synergies is going to come from revenue expansion. So both selling our products on the Drop platform and selling some Drop's products in our channel.

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Dong Wang
analyst

Okay. Great. I just have a quick follow-up. As we head into the holiday season, can you comment on the retail channel restocking? Any sort of update on the promotional environment? It's encouraging to see the promo environment has normalized in the third quarter versus kind of first half of this year. But kind of where we stand today, just any kind of thoughts on the overall retail environment as it relates to the kind of high end of your guidance?

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Andrew Paul
executive

Well, I would say that at this point, we're pretty positive on what we're hearing. We -- I put a chart in the deck this time to show that the growth or softness in gaming hardware for all the inputs that we get, mostly U.S. and Europe, is about 3% down. So that's for Q3. So we're tracking to basically be on par with last year.

We think Q4 is going to follow the same pattern. There was a little Prime Day -- October Prime Day that Amazon had and we noticed the gaming hardware, it was roughly the same as last year, maybe a little bit stronger. So at the moment, the channel is stocking up in anticipation for a pretty good holiday season, similar to last year.

Operator

Our next question will come from Aaron Lee with Macquarie.

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Aaron Lee
analyst

Nice result with that revenue growth. I wanted to touch on your product launches. So obviously, you've launched a bunch of new products this year. I'm curious, how should we think about the cadence of product launches for 2024? Was this year unusual at all in terms of the number of new product introductions? Or could you maintain that cadence next year or even increase?

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Andrew Paul
executive

Well, I think the comments we made were more about the fact we bought our products that hit the marks in terms of price and performance. And so we had 2 products that we launched that were pretty significant. One was the HS80 -- HS80 MAX headset line, which are doing very well. In fact, we're sold out at the moment, so we're having to airfreight them in. And the other one is a product called K70 Core, which is a full feature mechanical keyboard, which is being retailed for $99. And so -- and that is using our own switches. We -- we've now brought out Corsair switches both in mechanical, optical and magnetic. So that's a new thing for us. So those were some of the main things.

I think we also alluded to some of the Elgato products that were launched. Teleprompter was sold out first 3 days. We launched the Scuf control, especially the PC enthusiasts that was sold out in the first day. So I think we typically get about one new product out a week on average, and we'd expect to do the same or more next year. And -- but we've had a lot of products recently that have just really hit the marks or have been in new segments like the PC controller and the teleprompter. Obviously, those are not refreshes as brand-new segments.

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Aaron Lee
analyst

Got you. Perfect. That's helpful. And then on the Elgato Marketplace, which you've recently launched, and I know it's only been a month, but anything you can share on the early days on the uptake and the usage of it and how you plan to ramp this up in 2024?

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Andrew Paul
executive

Yes. Well, it's been couple of years of bringing this thing to market, it is quite complicated. But we did -- we were happy to launch with over 240 third-party providers or creators. There's a huge number of apps. It is, as you say, very early days.

The interesting thing we've seen so far is that the ASP over spend per person or per order is pretty high. So we've got people spending $100 on plug-ins, and that the ASP is not on average, but up to $100. So that was higher than we thought.

What we don't know yet is how to model the amount of dollars that the average Stream Deck user is going to pay per year. We don't know whether that's $5 or $100 or $1,000. I mean we just don't know what that is yet until we get some more data.

So we'll keep you appraised as we go through Q4. I think by early next year, we'll have a good sense of what the model looks like in terms of how many people that own Stream Decks are jumping on this marketplace, and also how the marketplace affects the sell-through of Stream Deck hardware.

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Aaron Lee
analyst

Okay. Perfect. Looking forward to it.

Operator

Our next question will come from Drew Crum with Stifel.

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Unknown Analyst

It's David on for Drew. Can you provide the puts and takes on the implied 4Q revenue outlook?

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Andrew Paul
executive

You mean what does the top end of the range means compared to the bottom end of the range in terms of market conditions? Is that?

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Unknown Analyst

Yes.

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Andrew Paul
executive

Yes. Well, I think it's all down to how strong the -- how strong the holiday season is. As we get closer to it, these days, the holiday season in Black Friday is not just on Friday, people start promoting earlier. So we'll get to see that. And as people get more and more confident in spending, then they're going to load up more. But I think at the moment, we're pretty comfortable with what we're seeing and pretty comfortable with the range we've given out.

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Unknown Analyst

Okay. And you touched on this a little bit, but I was hoping to get a little bit more color or detail around the Prime Day. What did you learn in terms of the health of the consumer or consumer demand coming out of Prime Day?

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Andrew Paul
executive

Well, it's a bit complicated, right? I think the net of it is that the spending this year is similar to last year. Unfortunately, what's starting to happen with some of these holidays, now we get so many of them is that you get a -- people stopped buying a few days before, then you get a spike and then no one buys the day after. So you end up with almost a neutral number.

But the key thing is that we can see the interest level for consumers, and that seems to be on par with last year.

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Unknown Analyst

Got it.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question will come from Doug Creutz with Cowen.

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Douglas Creutz
analyst

As you noted this year has gone pretty much according to what you expected you're headed towards the middle of your sort of initial guidance range, which suggests that your ability to forecast is sort of back to normal levels after several years where things were disrupted.

Given that, as you sort of think about next year, do you think the industry is going to be headed back to its sort of historical long-term growth trajectory that you talked about at your Analyst Day? And if not, what do you still see out there that you think could hinder that?

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Andrew Paul
executive

Yes. That's a great question because we're just starting our planning for next year. So right in the thick of that.

So we assume that eventually, growth rates will get back to where they were. What gives us some positive feelings is that we referenced this survey that just came out from DFC, which is confirmation of what we thought would happen is, in other words, there would be an echo of the COVID bulge one refresh cycle later. And one refresh cycle later, which for us is about 3 to 4 years, is '23 and '24.

So we do expect a bulge. I think what's happening at the moment is a lot of the new gamers or gamers for the first time were buying hardware during lockdown. There's an increased number of those, and they're starting to refresh and rebuy, and that may be offsetting perhaps some softness in the overall market. And the net of that means that we end up with a market today that's pretty flat.

We would hope that this bulge will continue into next year, and we'll start to see some growth. So I think we're modeling still not a lot of growth in the first half, but we'd expect it to pick up. And I'm hoping by '25 and '26, we get back to the traditional 15% plus growth for gaming peripherals and 5% to 10% for components. So that's as best as we can forecast it at the moment.

Operator

Our next question will come from Colin Sebastian with Baird.

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Unknown Analyst

Andy and Michael, it's [ Reese ] on for Colin. We have 2 questions. I guess the first one would be, could you guys provide an update on D2C revenues and the overall mix of the company, especially given how that might change with Drop next year, presumably, it's going higher.

And then I guess second, maybe more around the state of the consumer and what you guys are seeing, I guess it sounds like things are going well around the gaming launches and things like that. But maybe more specifically, have you seen changes in behavior from gaming launch to gaming launch? If you were to take a gain that launched this year versus a gain that launched last year, are you seeing a difference in consumer behavior from that end?

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Andrew Paul
executive

Okay. So 2 different questions. So the first one in D2C percentage. D2C percentage is actually maintained about the same as it was last year. We obviously are hoping for some growth with Drop. Drop is not a big acquisition or a big revenue number. So it will not be hugely significant. We're running right now, I think, about 10% overall is direct-to-consumer. And obviously, we've got goals of raising that up to 15% plus and Drop will have a small positive effect on that.

The second question was more around what are we seeing related to some of these launches. We haven't seen anything from an individual game. In other words, not like when Fortnite launched, everyone was rushing out to buy headsets. But what we have seen is a lot of engagement. So I think Starfield's probably the one that's had the most number of hours. Baldur's Gate, I think, was the biggest surprise in terms of number of players that jumped in.

And I think all of these things help with hardware. All the new games have got requirements that need more memory. So there's a lot of push right now for 32 gigs of [ DRAM, ] which is helpful for us because the data we've seen from Steam, who collects what people's configuration is that 80% of people have 16 gig or less. So we are in the cycle of people upgrading, and I think the other part of it is people building new machines using the latest graphics.

So all these games help, but I wouldn't say that there's one in particular that's outstanding that's driven. It's just that we've had a lot of games between Baldur's Gate, Starfield, Cyberpunk, there's a lot of new games that have come out that have been pretty high level.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question will come from a follow-up from Aaron Lee with Macquarie.

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Aaron Lee
analyst

Just a quick follow-up. I wanted to touch on the survey you highlighted about the refresh cycle. In your experience, is there a difference in the refresh cycle between components and peripherals? Or do you find that people generally refreshing one kind of leads to refreshing the other?

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Andrew Paul
executive

No. They're not coupled. Typically, we've seen 3 to 5 years for systems. People have spent $2,000 on a gaming system. Anywhere from 3 to 5 is when they upgrade.

For peripherals, it's more like a 3-year cycle and some being much faster. So we've seen, in some cases, especially at the lower end of the entry level of headsets, people tend to sit on them and break them. So those can be as low as 18 months.

But 3 to 4 years for peripherals, 3 to 5 years for components is usually where we model it.

Operator

Our next question will be a follow-up from George Wang with Barclays.

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Dong Wang
analyst

Just to have a quick follow-up. Just in terms of the sort of new product categories into next year. And just curious, any more white space in terms of the peripherals? So obviously, you guys launched quite a bit of new products. Just curious kind of -- kind of high level over the next couple of years, which sort of gap or kind of you guys can potentially feel if you were to launch new products kind of to compete with the competitors in terms of any additional white space you guys may potentially be targeting?

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Andrew Paul
executive

Yes. I think we've talked about this before. The 2 areas that we're looking at that will probably be the next products or categories to launch is [ sim racing ] and mobile gaming.

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Michael Potter
executive

And I think you could see from the Envision controller that we just did from Scuf, mean when Corsair does something, we do something better than what the market is used to. A lot of people's PC controllers are just coffee of a console controller, but we added a lot of extra functionality into ours that made it really a good controller for PC games.

So that's the type of stuff that we're good at is that when we do come out with a product like that, we really hit what the market needs and add some innovation to it.

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Dong Wang
analyst

Okay. Great. Sounds good.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] It appears there are no further questions. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Andy Paul for any closing remarks.

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Andrew Paul
executive

Well, thank you, everyone, for joining the call today and for continued support. If you have any follow-up questions, please contact our Investor Relations department, and we look forward to updating you next quarter. Thank you, and have a good evening.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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