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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2018-Q3

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Operator

Good day. And welcome to the Integra Lifesciences Third Quarter 2018 Financial Results Call. Today's call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Mike Beaulieu. Sir, please go ahead.

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Michael Beaulieu
Director, Investor Relations

Thank you, Katie. Good morning and thank you for joining the Integra LifeSciences third quarter 2018 earnings call. Joining me on the call are Peter Arduini, President and Chief Executive Officer; Glenn Coleman, Chief Financial Officer and Corporate Vice President of International; and Sravan Emany, Senior Vice President, Strategy, Treasurer and Investor Relations.

Earlier this morning, we issued a press release announcing our third quarter 2018 financial results. The release and corresponding earnings presentation, which we will reference during the call, are available at integralife.com under Investors, Events & Presentations, in the file named third quarter 2018 earnings call presentation.

Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that many of the statements made during this call may be considered forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's Exchange Act reports filed with the SEC and in the release. Also the discussions will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of any non-GAAP financial measures can be found in today's press release, which is an exhibit to Integra's current report on Form 8-K filed today with the SEC.

I will now turn the call over to Pete.

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Mike. And good morning, everyone. If you turn to Slide 4 in the earnings presentation, I'd like to start by sharing a few highlights from the quarter. Total sales in the third quarter were $366 million, an increase of 31% on a reported basis, and 6.2% on organic basis over the prior year. Adjusted earnings per share were $0.59, an increase of 31% compared to the third quarter of 2017. Our performance in third quarter showed continued improvement and our commercial teams achieved their plans most areas. While total reported revenues were at the low end of the guidance range on a constant currency basis, our profitability and organic growth were in line with our guidance and operating cash flow exceeded expectations.

The execution of our Codman integration plans remains on schedule and as previously communicated, we are now managing all commercial support services and functions in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and China. Most recently we successfully completed the transition of those services in functions for Italy and Mexico.

Taking together, these countries represent roughly 65% of the global revenue associated with the acquired Codman business. Earlier this month, we also successfully converted the manufacturing plant in Switzerland to our ERP platform and now have full operational control of this facility. This represents a critical milestone given the key strategic product that we manufacture at this facility.

The next step in the integration plan is the exit the transition services agreement in Western Europe which will largely take place in the first half of 2019. The services are very similar to the first wave of TSA that we exit in the US and that transition will position us to manage all commercial support services and functions in approximately 15 European countries including France, Germany and the UK.

We have completed the planning required for this transition and we have the necessary resources in place before the end of this year. Upon completion of this exercise, we will have transitioned over 85% of the acquired Codman revenue to Integra's operating control. After the conclusion of that exit, the largest remaining country to move off the TSA agreement will be Japan and its transition is expected to be completed by the third quarter of 2019.

Moving to our OTT segment. Organic sales increased 11.5% in the quarter despite disappointing performance in our orthopedics business which declined mid single digit year-over-year. Double digit growth in Regenerative Technologies drove OTT's results for the quarter. We sell these products through our acute wound reconstruction, advanced wound care, surgical reconstruction and private label franchises. All four of which made great progress in third quarter.

We are very pleased with the continued sales momentum at acute wound reconstruction, which increased double digits and accelerated sequentially from the second quarter. This acceleration resulted directly from the investments we made to expand the sales channel both domestically and internationally. The Advanced Would Care franchise which makes products used in outpatient procedures grew high single digits, demonstrating strength across the portfolio. We expect growth to accelerate in the coming quarters based on continued market expansion and our broad product offering.

As many of you know, Integra was recently selected as the primary provider of cellular tissue products for the Healogics iSupply program. This is a multiyear growth opportunity to provide preferred access to the roughly 700 wound care clinic that Healogics manages. The potential from this program and similar enterprise contracts gives us confidence in the growth trajectory of our advanced would care business.

As I reflect on the priorities and progress in 2018, we made significant changes that we believe will position the company for faster growth over the long term. The integration of the Codman business has gone better than expected including the realignment of all our global sales territories, and we continue to exit TSAs without major disruption. And we have integrated our product development efforts and advance a number of new product introduction that will be launched in the first half of 2019.

In our OTT segment, the channel expansion we announced earlier this year was designed to improve sales growth in both our acute wound reconstruction and extremity orthopedics franchises. In our acute wound reconstruction business, we are already realizing the beneficial expansion which was completed in first quarter in the form of improved clinical focus, better account coverage and ultimately accelerating sales. However, in our orthopedics franchise, where we completed the expansion at the end of the second quarter, these benefits are taking longer to realize as evidenced by the mid-single digit sales decline we experienced during the quarter.

We believe we have the right people and right teams in place but meaningful progress in this channel likely takes a several more quarters to allow the salesforce to mature in their new territories. As a result, we have lowered our full year 2018 revenue growth expectations to reflect its ramp up period for our orthopedics channel.

The other area I want to discuss is related to the acquired Codman business. The countries that have transitioned and are in full control of commercial operations have performed in line with our plan. However, there are a number of indirect countries outside United States representing about 10% of the acquired Codman revenues where commercial operations have not yet transferred to Integra. We refer to these as Day Two countries and recently performance in select Day Two countries has declined, which we believe is associated with the lack of focus.

As we transition commercial operations and take control of these countries in the first half of 2019, we expect to stabilize the business. Taking a Day Two country performance and the timing of sales improvement in our orthopedics franchises into consideration, we are revising our 2018 revenue guidance to a new range of $1.467 billion to $1.472 billion with an organic growth rate of approximately 4%. We have specific plans in place to address the two issues I just discussed and believe the company is well positioned to accelerate growth in 2019. We are outperforming in a number of businesses including Regenerative Technologies and our US neurosurgery business, and are confident organic sales growth in 2019 will be within our long-term range of 5% to 7%.

With that I'll now turn the call over to Glenn.

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Glenn Coleman

Thanks Pete, and good morning, everyone. Total third quarter reported sales were $366 million, an increase of 31% compared to the third quarter of 2017 and 6.2% on an organic basis. The acquisition of Codman contributed $79 million in the quarter which is roughly flat on sequential basis to the second quarter. Before I review the second performance, let me bridge the $4 million revenue shortfall versus the midpoint of guidance range that we provided in July. Most areas of our business performed in line with our expectations including the US Codman business.

The two exceptions were extremity orthopedics and the acquired Codman business outside the US. Relative to the guidance we provided in July, each of these accounted for about $2 million of the revenue shortfall, with a stronger US dollar resulting in an additional foreign currency headwind about $1 million.

Now let me move to review a Codman Specialty Surgical or CSS segment shown on Slide 5. Reported sales for the segment grew 45% to $239 million. Organic sales grew 2.4% over the prior year in line with our expectations. Moving to franchise performance, Dural Access and Repair had a strong quarter and grew organically over 5% compared to the prior year's quarter. This global strength was driven by mid single digit growth in both our graft and sealant product lines.

In the fourth quarter we expect Dural Access and Repair to grow low to mid single digits consistent with our previous guidance. Organic sales in Advanced Energy increased high single digits compared to the prior year's quarter driven by CUSA Clarity sales which demonstrated growth in both capital and disposable product categories. We continue to receive great feedback of CUSA Clarity from neuro surgeons. And the funnels of opportunities remain strong heading into the fourth quarter.

As a result, we expect CUSA to grow double digits in the fourth quarter, which also will provide us with double digit growth for this quarter of our business for the full year of 2018. Sales and Precision Tools and Instruments were down low single digits year-over-year. This decline resulted mainly from lower sales in some of most matured product lines such as stereotaxy and brain mapping and slightly lower sales in our Mayfield cranial stabilization product family.

The remaining two franchises within CSS, Neuro Monitoring and Cerebral Spinal Fluid management performed in line or slightly better than our expectations. Total organic sales for the International portion of our CSS business were flat in the third quarter compared to the prior year.

We saw strength in Asia-Pacific most notably in our Advanced Energy and Dural Access and Repair franchises which was offset by lower sales in Europe. Based on performance in the CSS segment through the first nine months of the year, and our revised forecast for the Codman business outside the US, we're reducing our organic revenue growth guidance for this segment by a half a point. We now expect organic growth of about 2.5% for the full year 2018 specifically as a result of the lower forecast for Day Two country revenues.

And as a reminder, Codman revenues will become organic in the fourth quarter. Let me now move to our Orthopedics and Tissue Technology segment on Slide 6. Third quarter sales were $127 million representing an increase over 11% on both the reported and organic basis compared to the prior year. During the third quarter, the commercial expansion strategy drove nearly 13% organic growth with Regenerative Technologies.

As Pete mentioned in the acute setting, we have market leading products and sales reps who've been able to spend more time at clinicians both of which are translating into stronger growth. We also saw a continued strength in our Advanced Wound Care business which grew high single digits in the third quarter over the prior year mainly driven by PriMatrix. Consistent with our commentary in July, we expect low double-digit growth in our regenerative products in the fourth quarter and for the full year.

Sales in our private label business grew 25% over the same quarter last year led by continued strong demand from existing private label partners, new partner agreements and easier comps versus last year's third quarter. We expect to see another solid quarter of growth in private label in the fourth quarter. Third quarter sales in Orthopedics decreased about 5%. Growth in our US ankle product line was not enough to offset the performance in a lower fixation portfolio which is down mid-teens. As Pete discussed, the benefits of our channel expansion in this part of our business will take several more quarters to reach our expectations.

As a result, we've assumed no incremental improvement in orthopedics business in 2018 and believe that new product launches such our XT ankle revision and our new fusion nail called the Panta II coupled with the larger fully developed channel will drive improvements in 2019. International sales in OTT increased high single digits driven by sales of Regenerative Technologies in EMEA and Canada. For the OTT segment given my comments and orthopedics, we're lowering our previous full year 2018 guidance and now expect reported revenue to increase approximately 9% and organic revenue to increase in a range of 6% to7% over the prior year.

Please turn to Slide 7 where I will review highlights from our third quarter P&L performance and provide full year 2018 guidance. We're adjusting at midpoint of our full year 2018 total revenue guidance to $1.47 billion representing a reduction of about $13 million from the midpoint of our previous guidance range. This reduction reflects a slightly larger fourth-quarter impact in actual dollars as compared to the third quarter from orthopedics and Codman Day Two countries along with increased foreign currency headwinds.

We now expect organic growth to be approximately 4% for the full year. Let me now move to some of the profitability metrics in the third quarter. Adjusted gross margin was 67%, a decline of 170 basis points compared to the prior year, largely resulting from the expected dilution from the acquired Codman business. Based on our performance through the first nine months of the year, we're now projecting a full year adjusted gross margin of about 67% which reflects the impact of lower volumes than previously planned.

Adjusted SG&A for the quarter was 41.4%, an improvement of 230 basis points from the prior year's quarter, driven by better leverage of G&A costs enabled by the Codman acquisition, which we expect to continue into the fourth quarter. Our adjusted EBITDA margin for the third quarter was 23%, an improvement of 40 basis points compared to the prior year. For the full year, our guidance for EBITDA margin remains in the range of 23% to 24% which at the midpoint of our guidance range would give us 80 basis point of EBITDA margin expansion over the prior year.

Our adjusted tax rate for the quarter was 17%, an improvement of 650 basis points from the prior year, primarily driven by the changes to the US corporate tax laws, as well as the benefit of higher income being generated and low-tax jurisdictions. Adjusted earnings per share increased 31% to $0.59 compared to $0.45 in the same quarter of the prior year. Higher sales EBITDA margin expansion in a lower tax rate drove this increase.

Based on a performance to the first nine months of 2018 and our outlook for the fourth quarter, we are maintaining our EPS guidance despite the reduction in revenues. This is a result of improved cost management, better G&A leverage and lower interest expense. Our updated full year 2018 guidance implies a fourth quarter revenue range of $378 million to $383 million and adjusted EPS of approximately $0.62 at the midpoint of the implied guidance range.

As we begin to look out to 2019, we remain confident that organic revenues will be within our targeted long-term range of 5% to 7%, and I would encourage you to model the low end of that range until we report our full year 2018 final results and provide detailed financial guidance on our February earnings call.

Please turn to Slide 8 for a discussion of our cash flow performance. Our operating cash flow in the third quarter of 2018 at a record high of $79 million. This performance is driven by improvements in working capital, improved profitability and the tiniest cash payments from J&J associated with the July completion of the first wave of TSA agreements. Based on the strong performance to the first nine months of the year, we now expect our operating cash flow for the full year to exceed $180 million which is $15 million above the high end of the previous guidance range.

Our capital expenditures were $17 million in the third quarter, an increase of $9 million over the prior year, primarily related the establishment of a new manufacturing facility in Massachusetts. We expect an elevated level of capital expenditures through mid 2019 as we build up this new manufacturing site and expand infrastructure outside the US. After we conclude these initiatives, capital expenditures should return to more historical levels.

Our free cash flows conversion for the quarter was 51.8% on a trailing 12-month basis and based on performance year-to-date, we are slightly raising guidance for our full-year free cash flow conversion. If you now turn to Slide 9, I'll wrap up with a brief update on our capital structure. Our cash balance as of September 30th, 2018 was $206 million with net debt of about $1.2 billion and a consolidated leverage ratio as defined in the bank covenants of less than 3x, which is better than a target we set at the beginning of the year.

In the fourth quarter, we plan on repatriating approximately $100 million of cash to further reduce our total debt after which our ratio of fixed to variable rate debt will be approximately 70% fixed and 30% variable.

And with that I'll turn the call back over to Pete.

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Glenn. If you turn to Slide 10. I'll provide some closing comments. We are disappointed that we're lowering our organic revenue growth for the full year. And as discussed, the timing of our sales ramp in orthopedics and a more conservative view of our ability to achieve revenues in Codman Day Two countries were the primary contributor to this decision. That being said, we know how to fix it. We're confident that we have the right teams in place in our orthopedics business as our reps continue to establish themselves in their territories, they'll be supported by several new product launches planned for early 2019,

We believe that taken together, these two factors will result in improved performance in this segment in 2019. Likewise many of the Codman Day Two countries will transition and come under our full commercial and operational control at the beginning of the second quarter. Plans are already in place restore their performance once they're transferred to us. In 2018, the largest acquisition and channel expansion in the company's history impacted nearly everyone at Integra. As we enter 2019, our colleagues will be able to spend a much greater amount of time focusing on driving growth of the business.

Together with the momentum that we're already seeing in the regenerative technologies and our u.s. neurosurgery business, along with 10 new product introductions and clinical studies, we're confident that we can achieve organic growth in line with our long-term targets.

We look forward to updating you on our progress in February. That concludes our prepared remarks. Thanks for listening and operator would you please open up our lines for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Our first question comes from Ryan Zimmerman with BTIG.

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Ryan Zimmerman
BTIG.

Great. Thanks for taking the question. So first one on the gross margin pressure you saw this quarter then secondly on the leverage ratio. Just keep talking about now the gross margin pressure you did see and subsequently the implied gross margin guidance for FY18 certainly suggest continued pressure on gross margins in the fourth quarter, but just in light of the growing proportion of sales in wound, I mean how should we think about your gross margins improving or lack thereof and into FY19 and can we expect the more return more normalized levels in 2019?

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Glenn Coleman

Hi, Ryan, it's Glenn. Thanks for the question. When we look at the gross margins in the quarter I would say the things that negatively impacted us were twofold. First, the mix well region was higher; keep in mind the extremity orthopedics business does have higher gross margins versus the corporate average. And private label carries lower gross margins have had pretty stellar quarter with 20% overall growth. So the mix itself was not necessarily favorable in the quarter coupled with the lower volumes, and the fact we had less fixed cost absorption on the lower sales.

Those are kind of the two main drivers. Nothing of great concern when we look at where we ended up on gross margin in the quarter. Given where we are year-to-date we took a gross margin levels down to 67%. As we go forward to 2019 I would certainly expect to see an improvement in gross margins in 2019. If you look at the momentum we've got in the regenerative side of the business which I will sure talk about more on the call growing 13% in the quarter in OTT, Dural Repair doing quite well. That's going to help our gross margins from the mixed perspective as we go into next year.

More portfolio rationalization in 2019 eliminating some of the lower margin SKUs. In the manufacturing area we've done a lot to automate certain facilities. So our new college of plant is now fully equipped with robotics and that should drive more efficiency in certain manufacturing plants like the plant next door here in New Jersey. And then longer-term, we're still quite excited about the new Codman facility. I am certain that once we roll off the J&J TMA in Massachusetts, we will see a very nice pickup, that's still a few years away but clearly that's going to be a driver to improving gross margins in over the long term.

I think it's just the last point, we'll talk more on new product launches in 2019 As Pete mentioned about 10 new product launches that we're excited about. In general, I would say all these new product launches are going to carry higher gross margins than previous versions of these products. So that should help us go into 2019 as well.

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Ryan Zimmerman
BTIG.

Okay, thank you for that. And then just turn --your leverage ratio has come down pretty precipitously over this year, so kudos on that but how does that change your plan and certainly as you've gotten it below three you've talked about becoming more acquisitive again. So can we see an acceleration even as early as the fourth quarter in terms of how you think about acquisitions or potentially certain tuck-in that you can add to the bag?

Thank you for taking the questions.

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Ryan. It's Pete. Look, I think we're now at a position here that we're aggressively looking at the right types of tuck-ins and assets that we could bring into the portfolio. There are clearly parts of the company that are very much cranking and unaffected by integration or any of those areas. And so they would be probably some of the more earlier candidates, but as we go into 2019, I think even as we start the year where the balance sheet is and our bandwidth that we have, we feel quite comfortable looking at multiple tuck-in acquisitions.

And I think our goal next year would be at least to do few tuck-in acquisitions to fill out the bag. And in particularly as we now have this larger commercial salesforce in different countries around the world that we have before, our capacity to do licensing partnerships as well as acquisitions and just take a given product and add it into the bag goes up. So I think we're now at this point in time where we feel quite good about starting to take a hard look at acquisitions and bringing them into the portfolio.

Operator

Our next question comes from Robbie Marcus with JPMorgan.

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Christian Moore
JPMorgan Securities LLC

Hey, good morning. This is a Christian on for Robbie. Maybe a quick one Dural Repair, saw another nice improvement in the quarter the growth of north of 5%. Maybe if you could provide some color on why is it accelerating into 4Q the low to mid single-digit growth instead of a continuing improvement? And then is there an opportunity for faster growth there with potential disruption at HyperBranch as the transition to the Stryker portfolio?

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Christian, I'll just comment and Glenn you jump in, I think it was a good quarter and I think this is a good example of seeing the breadth of the expanded neuro sales force. Recall that we're probably a 30% in US and above that outside the United States. So we're starting to get particularly in the US the comfort of the team being able to reach more deeply into the accounts. I think we've seen a benefit. I think our reduction of growth rate in the fourth quarter is simply tied to; we had a very nice record year last year. So the comps are a little bit more challenging.

But I think as we go forward with the larger salesforce, our contracting capability between dural onlay products as well as sealants, I mean we feel quite good about that ability to continue to grow. To the point about disruption and are there opportunities there, I'm sure there are. But I don't think we think that they're significant in the transfer of a product into a major player that way, But Glenn, I don't know, if you want to add any other comments.

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Glenn Coleman

Yes. Just a little other color. So just keep in mind we've spoken about the Codman portfolio growing slower than the Integra portfolio. Until we get these new products launched, wellness products are Dural Access, and DuraForm we sell outside the US. So in Q4 that becomes organic for us. So we're still modeling to the low-to-mid based upon that rolling into the organic growth calculation. And then when we look at opportunities probably the biggest opportunity we have in 2019 is around launching DuraGen in Japan. And so that's a big product launch for us. We're expecting that to happen early second quarter, obviously, we are doing what we can to get that done sooner. But that's kind of a nice opportunity that could drive some incremental growth in 2019 outside the US.

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Christian Moore
JPMorgan Securities LLC

Thank you and then maybe one a higher level question. I know you're not formally giving 2019 guidance today, but Pete you did mention that numbers should probably be at the lower end of your 5% to 7% organic growth goal. I think the Street going into the quarter was quoted as 6% and that's off of a 5% 2018. So maybe you could just give us some of the puts and takes of a lower 2019 growth backed on a lower 2018 growth and kind of what you're thinking behind there? Thanks.

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, Christian, we're not going to the-- get into the break out for what our guidance would look like for next year, but just on a higher level view, maybe really comes down to this fact that we've had this very large salesforce expansion. And it will exit this year. All of those folks will be -will call say in mature positions as far as being ramped up. Glenn mentioned some of the catalysts we have. We have a bunch of registrations that done in Japan as a good one.

And we also have a bunch of new products particularly in certain areas like a hydrocephalus management which was a very big, high-value asset that we picked up in the Codman deal. We have a bunch of follow-along releases some in recent FDA approvals. And then we've got some really nice dynamics going on advanced wound care. I mean we're really excited about the inpatient growth that we've already seen, and the pickup we're starting to see in outpatient. And that coupled with some bigger contracts that moves us from being one of the six or seven competitors to being the third player gives us good confidence that we can grow.

And majority of that growth is that margins that are accretive to the company average. So that's kind of a broader list of items as we get through these two items Day Two countries and the lagging performance orthopedics. Even without those two having to turn around significantly, we have a bunch of other catalysts even as we start the year that we feel good about.

Operator

Our next question comes from Raj Denhoy from Jefferies,

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Rajbir Denhoy
Jefferies LLC

Hi, good morning. Maybe Pete I could ask a bit about the salesforce, the orthopedic tissue salesforce. As we started this year that transition was I think one of the big events. And it sounds like part of what's happening is that that salesforce is simply not getting traction as quickly as you thought they could. So maybe you could give us a little more as to why you think that is and what gives you the confidence as we move into 2019 you'll start to see that traction develop?

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Raj, thanks for the question. So again just to kind of repeat what we did in the beginning of this year, we took a legacy salesforce that sold primarily inpatient and wound care products and our orthopedics been like that for over plus a decade. It really started out that way as the cost to sales vehicle, as we grow really needed to split it to accelerate growth. And obviously as everyone knows is when you split it there's a large opportunity for disruption. I think to your point the splits went well. We're actually holding on the folks, folks are feeling very good about their territories.

I think the product portfolio that we have now in ankle is a very high quality area. We have some things to fix relative to lower fixation product portfolio. But as we spoke about at the end of this quarter and in beginning into Q1, we'll have some new rollouts that will actually help that out quite a bit. I think the point though is our wound care team we able to get that channel filled and pretty much how the management has well all the reps in place by the end of Q1. Between time to hire and also just how many open territories we started with in orthopedics, it was a longer fill time.

And I think I mentioned on last call the last 30 rolls which were primary orthopedic we got filled at the end of second quarter. And I think the team was just a little optimistic that we could see the pick up faster here within third and fourth quarter. And naturally when it comes down to, I would say disruption is pretty minimal, it's really the lack of productivity that we're seeing with new folks in those territories. And what gives us confidence is we have fused into the funnels. We have fused into the new products that are coming out.

And with the increase of the footprint and not having people moving in and out of territories, we just feel pretty good that we'll be able to pick it up. Now my expectations aren't necessarily moving to a hit marker, exceed market growth. Our first expectations are just to get back to that this be a positive grower within our portfolio and move to be in an accretive player over time. And that's kind of how we think about it as we go into 2019.

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Rajbir Denhoy
Jefferies LLC

So maybe just a standard orthopedic piece a little bit because again for the last couple of years that businesses I think been questioned in terms of whether you need to be in that business given your scale in it, and the results a bit a little choppy and now again it sounds like it's mostly the salesforce issue, but or does the results in orthopedics kind of raise those questions again about whether it's an area you guys need to be in?

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

So, Raj, it's about $100 million business for us and so if you think about where we've been at one point in our career where ortho was 30-some percent of business and now it's under 10% of the business. That obviously a question that gets raised quite a bit to us, but I think the key is there's still a lot of synergies with our regenerative portfolio. That's why we like extremities. You think about it a lower area there's nerve products for repair. There's tendon repair, if you go to the upper extremity there's lots of different cell tissue solutions particularly nerve tendon and skin.

So we think that synergies there are significantly greater than say when we were in the spine business when it was limited with our broader regenerative portfolio. That being said, these changes are the changes that we think are going to make the difference. I wish I could have done them two or three years ago, but we just didn't have the bandwidth to do it, but they have the dedicated salesforce which is kind of the bar now in the market that we compete to have the right call it located clinical and capabilities that we knew now have in our Texas facility.

I actually think we're well set up to be able to grow that. I think as we get into next year, the proof will be in the pudding are we making progress within that business, but we have all the items in place now that kind of get us on the right track for growth. And I think as we mentioned a few added quarters should give the salesforce the opportunity to kind of get comfortable within their territories and start putting up some bigger numbers.

Operator

Our next question comes from Steven Lichtman from Oppenheimer & Co.

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Steven Lichtman
Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.

Thank you. Hi, guys. On wound care, you touched on one of a couple things that occurred during the quarter with the Healogics announcement. What impact can that have on your business over the next 12 to 24 months? And how do you feel about the potential to take advantage of the United Healthcare policy which removed reimbursement for non PMA products? I know it's a slight headwind near-term but how do you see that as a potential upside driver over the medium term?

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

I think, Steve, I think that's the multi-million dollar question for us. I would say as we think about the look going forward, I would say how we think about guidance it's probably one of our biggest wildcards that we have out there. We are well positioned as anybody within the space to be able to take advantage of the trends that are happening. So there's obviously some disruption that's taking place as competition is in the marketplace. There is some level of disruption and changes that are tied to reimbursements.

I think to United point where 67 products are not being reimbursed now, and there's a small set of four or five products that are actually there where we actually have a reasonable part of that portfolio tied to our legacy Integra products. So I would say we haven't really baked in big step ups or changes in that dynamic, but I think we're well positioned. The contracts like Healogics, we don't expect there to be big changes overnight or month to month, but it is a multi-year contract as we get out into 2019 we expect that we start making the types of conversions.

And to do that you have to have not just one product. You need to have multiple products in your portfolio and the fact that we have two different amniotic products. We have multiple other engineered as well as natural basic collagen matrices that perform differently. We're starting to see wound care professionals look at their approach and want a toolbox of solutions. And so we think we've got that solution. So one of the things we need to do better. I think we need more studies out there and proof I think on our amniotic products particularly our new AMNIOEXCEL which has been received quite well.

But has limited reimbursement at this time, we need to get our study completed which will be done in 2019, and we think that will be, if the results are positive we think that that will have a nice catalyst effect. And then the expansion of the sales channel. We're seeing more and more ID ends look at what they use in the outpatient area and the inpatient area and want a contract. And we're one of those players that are a leader in the inpatient world and growing into a leadership position in the outpatient world. So all the signs are there but I would tell you we're being cautious at this point and taking a quarter by quarter.

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Steven Lichtman
Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.

Thanks Pete. And just follow on private label part of the pick up this quarter was easier comps, but I think you talked about higher underlying expectations as well based on your visibility on new projects. What do you see is the growth outlook overall for that business as you look at over the next couple three years?

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Glenn Coleman

Yes. Steve, it's Glenn. I would say mid to high single digits is just clearly an expectation that we would set. Obviously, we're going to strive to do even faster than that but mid to high single digit growth is in the foreseeable future. And then it comes from a couple different areas. One is seeing good, strong end market demand from existing private label partners. We are signing up new agreements as well. And so the combination to support it with increased manufacturing capacity that we now have, we feel quite confident we can grow mid to high single digits over the long term.

Operator

Our next question comes from Travis Steed with Bank of America.

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Travis Steed
Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hi, good morning. So you commented on organic growth in 2019 kind of being at the lower end of the 5% to 7% range. The Street's modeling 13% EPS growth today and you typically talk about 12% earnings growth over the long term. So just curious if you kind of comment on a good starting point for earnings growth in 2019 and also some of the expenses that are coming now in SG&A and R&D. Is that something that kind of gets pushed out into 2019?

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Glenn Coleman

Travis, it's Glenn. I guess a couple of comments. We're indicating that we expect to grow within the 5% to 7% range without giving any specific guidance yet. I had mentioned model to the low into the range until we get to the February earnings call when we have detailed guidance. So at this point we're not providing any guidance only to say that we're going to be within the 5% to 7% range, but given we still have few months to go before we close out the year, I would just model the low end for now.

Again, we're very optimistic when we look at 2019 for all the reasons that Pete mentioned earlier around the Codman business that we control is doing quite well. Day Two country should improve. The market dynamics is out in outpatient would new product launches and so forth. So we feel good about 2019. We will give more color on top line when we get to February. I really appreciate we've been very clear. We are going to consistently strive towards double-digit EPS growth over the next five years.

I think that feeling thing that we're going to say at this point until we get to February.

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Travis Steed
Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay, that's there. And then maybe just expenses that you're cutting this quarter and for the full year, and is that something that gets pushed into 2019 or is this stuff that actually getting cut? And maybe you can comment on what's getting cut? And then also in the tuck-n acquisitions that you talked about early on a call. Just kind of curious which businesses you think could benefit from tuck-in acquisition at this point? It seems like you have a pretty full bag now in neuro and wound care, a lot of these acquisitions potentially going to be in extremities or other parts your business going forward?

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Glenn Coleman

So, I'll comment on the SG&A piece and Pete maybe you can at the tuck-in acquisition piece when I finish. But relative to our expenses, we are not necessarily cutting expenses. What we're doing is growing expenses at a slower rate than revenues getting us better leverage. And amazing thing about it is we're now seeing some better leverage points with the Codman acquisition. Codman was dilutive to gross margins but as we look at EBITDA margins, I'm clearly seeing some upside as we go into 2019. And getting better G&A leverage. What does that mean? Year-over-year for G&A 2017 versus 2018, we're probably going to be down close to 200 basis points and hitting a number that's probably 13.5% and 14% type range.

As we go out to the future this further leverage we can get on G&A cost and I would expect some of the targets that we put out there on G&A leverage going 2022 would clearly put us below the target that we have out there of 12%. But, again, we're still growing G&A but at a much slower rate than sales. Pete maybe you comment --

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Travis, in terms of the BD front, I think the point is the field is wide. I think certain aspects of our neurosurgery business particularly like I had mentioned the United States; it's already performing above our expectations. The ability to roll in some adjunct products that help fill out the bag, help actually complete a bigger procedural scenario that give us a better clinical outcome approach. We think there are clearly opportunities there that are going to be coming up.

I think our instruments portfolio which is a broad portfolio with precision type products and such, there's different areas and services that play into that range. Tissue, even though we have a broad portfolio there's a lot associated products and devices that make those procedures more successful. So we think there are opportunities there. I think ortho is an obvious one, but I would say with ortho we have most of the items we need right now to be able to put up some improved growth. And so that would be an area that I'd say we'll probably more focus on organic here over the next few quarters before we jump into to buy mode.

And an international now that we have this larger presence. Japan's a great example. China where we have --had very small salesforce just a few years ago, we have organizations now big enough that we could pick up assets or partner just in specific countries and plug them into these larger sales channels we have. So I would say across the board it will come down to the right strategic fit at the right value, but we've got the necks out looking in all of our areas because many of these may take a year to find the right fit for the company.

Operator

Our next question comes from Larry Biegelsen from Wells Fargo.

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Shagun Chadha
Wells Fargo Securities

Hi, this is a Shagun in for Larry. Can you hear me okay? Great. So your 2018 organic growth guidance it implies about 3.5% growth in Q4. Can you help us understand how do you get to 5% to7%% in 2019 given that you're guiding 2% to 3.5% in Q4? Should we expect 2019 growth to be back end loaded? And then I have a follow-up.

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Glenn Coleman

Yes. So we're not going to comment on how the quarterly sequencing is going to go next year. But I'll just give you some color around the 2018 to 2019 ramp. I think pick we commented somewhat early on these points but I think that the first point is new product introductions will drive at least a point of organic growth year-over-year. We've got 10 new products. We're going to be launching everything from an electro surgical generator to a new ICP monitoring platform to a toolkit for animal valves. On the OTT side, an ankle revision, AMNIOEXCEL Plus which is an amniotic tissue product, along with Panta II which is a nail fusion product.

So there are lots of new products. Those should contribute by themselves at least a point of organic growth year-over-year. You then couple that with the channel expansion, the fact that we have less commercial disruption between the US and the US teams after we had a beginning part of this year. That should continue to drive more improvement in 2019. Pete mentioned just the overall dynamics in outpatient wound care seem to be playing out in our favor. We won some new contracts. It'll moderately improve throughout 2019 in terms of getting traction on those.

But being on these big contracts now as a preferred supplier like Healogics will make a difference going into 2019 coupled with the two issues that we had here in the third quarter. So keep in mind Codman Day Two countries, they cover organic for us as we get into the back half of next year and we close those countries, where we actually take commercial and operational control. We feel quite confident. We'll see an improvement in the revenues for those parts of our business. And then lower extremity is well. We're not counting on market growth next year. We are counting on some improvement especially as we get to mid year 2019.

So if you take a combination of all those things, the channel expansion, new product introductions, Codman improving outside the US, favorable dynamics, we feel quite confident we'll be in the 5% to 7% range for next year. I would just say in terms of the quarters, just keep in mind in Q1 in 2019, we still have a lot going on relative to the Codman transition. So we have to still cut over all the TSAs in Western Europe that will be a major exit point for us in all the Western European countries. So that's a big activity going on in Q1.

We will be on one common platform globally by the end of Q1, that's a big deal for us going into Q2, and having everything on one common platform but overall when you look at Q1 year-over-year, we had a lot of disruption in Q1 of 2018. Clearly not the same loved not the same level in 2019. [Multiple Speakers]

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Shagun Chadha
Wells Fargo Securities

Extremely helpful, thank you. The second question I had was on Stryker recently purchased a HyperBranch and our checks indicate that 90% of your US DuraSeal sales are used in cranial applications including off-label use and these revenues are associated with very high gross margins of well over 85%. I was just wondering how we should think about the impact of this acquisition on your P&L especially beyond one year because it does seem that you do have some contracts as well as some opportunity for the conversion of the fibrin glue market? So if you can provide some color there that would be great. Thank you.

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. First of all, I don't agree with your data but we compete against Stryker in Dural Repair for over the decade plus on the online market we compete directly. And have done quite well on that head to head first. So we obviously be competing against HyperBranch around the world for some period of time. And in the United States and I think as someone who as formidable as Stryker comes into the area, they pick up a product that only has indications for the cranium. It doesn't have indications for the spine.

The market is half spine and half cranial where we have two products that actually meet that need. Obviously, clinicians make decisions if how they want to utilize that product, but our ability to promote in both of those areas is a big differentiator for the United States. And we think when it comes to our salesforce time in the OR, how we go to market we think we're well positioned to be competitive. Could there be some disruption in the short term as Stryker moves off of distributors to direct I suppose so.

Over the long run, is there some pressure on our short-term share, I suppose so. But over the long run, the biggest opportunity for both of US is over 50 % of the market, someone's not using anything or they're using a sub product such as fibrin and sealant and the issue with a human based fibrin and sealant, it just doesn't last long enough to assure that there won't be a leak. And we have a good clinical data on that done out of some institutions such as Johns Hopkins that shows that.

So I think in the end of the day, I think two viable players in the marketplace talking about the benefits of polyethylene glycol and how it can make a difference. Ultimately is going to drive the overall market and I think both of us will end up performing reasonably well in the area.

Operator

Our next question comes from Amit Hazan with Citi.

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Unidentified Analyst

Hey, guys. This is Phil on for Amit. Can you near me okay? Great. I don't want to belabor the HyperBranch point but I think when we sort of talked about at this time last year longer term contracts and breadth of bag were or two of sort of the key linchpin for a longer term share maintained. So I'm wondering, I think I heard most of your points just now but is there anything you can say to the importance of breath of bag in terms of still being able to maintain share in this market?

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I mean in neurosurgery, we clearly have the largest portfolio from craniotomy all the way through the neuro ICU. It's relative to the products and the breath compared to Stryker, we are significantly larger as far as the amount of that bag, but that being said I think how you go to market. Our guys spend so much time either being in a tissue ablation case for a tumor resection, a traumatic brain injury associated with what they need to do in the OR, this will come down to that direct one-on-one contact with surgeon. Again, DuraGen versus all the other products out there, we deal with this all the time.

So again this has been one of the major impact points that we've dealt with really over the last plus decade. And we've done quite well. But again I think if we think about this as there's one fixed pie and as Integra going to give up a couple points a share as it going to go to another company, I think that's missing the point. I think the bigger point here is and the opportunity to actually expand the market here is significant. And I had an owner of the company HyperBranch that really didn't invest in clinical development or professional education.

And I think for a large company, it's a large competitor that will want to invest those areas. We think that's only going to help everybody grow. So that's how I think about this market will play out from that standpoint and again we interact and play with all the big guys competitively in neurosurgery and have over the years. I'll also remind you we still have litigation actually with that product on a particular part of this which is the whole applicator delivery, and still feel very confident in what that litigation looks like.

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Unidentified Analyst

Okay, great. That's that was all helpful color, Pete. Thanks. There are two quick clarifications if I could. I think they probably fall towards Glenn. Glenn when you're talking to 2019 incremental improvements on the Day Two countries, can you just clarify if the countries that have been something of a headwind this quarter and for the remainder of the year, they're basically all included in that first half TSA transition. Is that correct?

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Glenn Coleman

So keep in mind, there's no TSA is attached to these Day Two countries and countries that we do not control operations or commercial activities. So what happens is once we transition these countries in Q2 of 2019, we will only be running those countries day one. So there's no transition involved. And usually the reason why it takes longer to close these is we have to get the regulatory approvals in place, and the transfer is complete is usually the long gating items. So questions always why don't you just close them sooner?

Things have to happen in order for us to close or transition these countries legal regulatory and things of that nature. But once we take control of these countries obviously we have plans in place to stabilize and grow. So for example as you can imagine today the distributors that are carrying the Codman products, they carry many other J&J products and this is not a priority focus for them. The tenders that are going on are not a priority for them today. When we take these over these will be front and center in our distributors. We ask our distributors for minimum commitments to ensure accountability around sales and sales growth.

We're going to drive much more aggressively on a tendering process. A lot of education around the product portfolio. We will drive in-country so the whole bunch of things we will do when we transition these countries that are not happening today. That's why we feel confident that once we take over control commercially, we'll see an improvement but that really happens in the second quarter mid-year of 2019.

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Unidentified Analyst

Okay, all right, that's a great color, Glenn. Just one quick one if I can follow up on the currency headwind that was called out for 4Q. is it fair to think about the impact worsening maybe just a bit from 3Q levels and then obviously on a bigger revenue base given the organic that's rolling in? Is that fair?

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Glenn Coleman

Yes. So in total versus where we were in July we've got an additional $3 million of FX headwind. It's about a $1 million in Q3 and $2 million in Q that's the way to think about the additional headwind since our July guidance.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jayson Bedford with Raymond James.

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Jayson Bedford
Raymond James

Good morning. Just a couple follow-up questions. And I don't want to get too far in the weeds here but if you look at the pro forma growth in those day two countries the 10% of Codman revenue that you called out versus the rest of the Codman business, what's the magnitude of the difference in growth rates?

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Glenn Coleman

So keep in mind it's about $30 million of total sales and in the quarter pro forma we are down double digits.

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Jayson Bedford
Raymond James

In those day two countries.

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Glenn Coleman

Yes.

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Jayson Bedford
Raymond James

Okay and then that's helpful, thanks, thanks Glenn. And then in terms of just to tag on to the last question there's still seems like there's a lot going on in the Codman business, I don't fully know if I understand all of the dynamics there but how did the margins improve in the Codman business in 2019 versus 2018?

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Glenn Coleman

Gross margin?

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Jayson Bedford
Raymond James

No more margin or contribution margin. I'm just looking for the relative step up in 2019 versus 2018. What are the drivers of that?

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Glenn Coleman

Yes. I think it is a function of, we now have a business that we have integrated or we'll have integrated. The cost for us to stand that business up should be lower than what J&J is charging us, and so we should get better leverage on G&A costs. We still have work to do outside the US, but that's how we get better in terms of our operational margins. It's really doing it at a lower cost or being charged by J&J and candidly even some of the models that we had built around what we thought it would take to stand up to this business.

I believe we will under on those costs. So we feel quite good around the expansion that we would expect for EBITDA margins coming from Codman. And really just getting a lot better leverage versus what we were able to do previous. And just to go back on the point on that you comment, so I talked about being down double digits for our Codman day two total pro forma. The businesses that we actually control grew in the low single digit range which is what we expect it to be clear.

So those businesses that we actually control performed right in line with what we were expecting. So I want to just make sure that's a clear point here. The entire decline is coming from the countries that we do not yet control outside the US or what we refer to as day two countries.

Operator

Our next question from Craig Bijou with Cantor Fitzgerald.

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Craig Bijou
Cantor Fitzgerald Securities

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Just a couple quick follow-ups. On the Codman day two, appreciate your comments there, especially to last question Glenn, but when you look forward in Q4 and maybe the first couple quarters of next year before you take over control. Are you assuming that there is more disruption than what has already happened or what happened in Q3? And, if so, I mean is there anything that you can do to mitigate that destruction.

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Glenn Coleman

So it's two questions. Relative to Q4 and our guidance I'm expecting a slight deterioration from what we saw in Q3. So we are expecting a slightly worse, obviously, we're doing certain things to try to stabilize those countries until we actually take control, but we are anticipating in our guidance sequential further deterioration of day twos in Q4. So think of it as close to $2 million off of our guidance for Q3. I'm expecting a $3 million reduction versus our previous guidance in Q4 just to put in the context. So total of $5 million.

As we go into next year, the key for us is trying to do some pre-planning activities. So that once we actually transfer the businesses, we will see an immediate stabilization and then growth towards the back end of the year, but we're somewhat limited on what we can do until we actually transfer the businesses.

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Craig Bijou
Cantor Fitzgerald Securities

Okay, that's helpful. And one other follow-up on the extremity side. I don't think you guys called out shoulder and ankle growth specifically like you have in the past. So just wanted to see if you provide that color and then maybe if the channel expansion or changes that were made potentially impacted those businesses which I believe were growing double-digit? Thanks.

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Glenn Coleman

Yes, so good question. I would just say on shoulder. Keep in mind, shoulder is a distributed model. So the channel change we've made did not impact our shoulder business. We saw a growth in third quarter in our shoulder business. We feel good. We got good momentum heading into the fourth quarter. So shoulder continues to show a healthy growth rates. And again the channel change that we made does not impact shoulder because we use distributors to actually sell the products there.

Relative to ankle, we saw growth in ankle of mid-single digits in the US market in the third quarter. It's got the same rate we've seen in the previous couple of quarters, but I would say over the next 12 months we would expect to see ankle return to highest single-digit growth as we get better productivity out of the extremity metal channels. So that's the way I think about.

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. We don't think it was the slowdown in ankle was anything to do with competitive disruption. It was more about our own doing with the territories getting settled. And again that's part of what we're counting on for some of that recovery here in Q4. But I think that's pretty well understood, we did our analysis that most of that sluggishness that would be associated with the broader ankle portfolio with the territory changes. And now that they're settled we've got everybody place, we feel pretty good that that's going to pick up. Bear in mind as well, we just launched this new product as well in the ankle portfolio which that we think is actually going to help drive as well. This is the XT revision product.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jonathan Demchick with Morgan Stanley.

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Jonathan Demchick
Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC

Hello. Thanks for taking the question. Just one for me, I had a quick one on free cash flow. So very strong free cash flow quarter Pete this quarter and raising the guide and well that's encouraging. I also notice that it implies I guess relatively flat free cash flow next quarter. Is there anything specific next quarter that should drive I guess a larger drag there, and how should investors be thinking about free cash flow conversion priorities in the next year?

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Peter Arduini
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes. So a couple of comments. So in Q3 I would say we had about $20 million of timing that was favorable on the J&J TSA exits. So if you remember back in Q2 we had an abnormally low quarter. People questioned the high amount of receivables we had at that point in time. And so some of it was just timing relative to the J& TSA and getting payments from J&J as they were running the operations in the US mainly up until July. Even with all the news, we had a really strong quarter, a record quarter even excluding that a timing issue. And I just think as we get the Q4, the reason why free cash flow EBITDA is really non capital expenditures. So as I mentioned earlier we still have a lot of expenditures we are making for our Mansfield site build-out.

And we're also in the final stages of the IT infrastructure built outside the US. So we'll still see a pretty heavy amount of CapEx which is bringing down our free cash flow in Q4, but again once we get to 2019 and past the second quarter, you'll see a pretty steep hockey stick upward on free cash flow improvement. And so we feel quite good about. We've bringing down debt, got below 3x leverage as a result of that here in the third quarter. And that sets us well in terms of our acquisition strategy moving forward.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for your attention today. This does conclude today's conference. You may now disconnect.