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Q3-2023 Analysis
Nestle India Ltd

Strong E-commerce and Profitability Focus

The company emphasized its prowess in e-commerce, which marked a 20% year-on-year growth, with quick commerce constituting half of this segment and growing even faster. Innovations amount to 6% of sales, with over 125 new products launched and 10 more slated for release soon. They presented a compelling narrative of growth paired with profit, noting a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of approximately 9.4% and an improvement in net profit margin of 170 basis points to 21.4%. They showcased a stunning valuation growth from $1 billion in 2001 to $26 billion in 2023 and highlighted the sustainable strategies and investments, including significant capital investments in manufacturing and the supply chain totaling INR 5,000 crores between 2023 and 2025. Despite some volatility in commodity prices, the company confidently addressed these challenges through economies of scale, the ShackSaving cost reduction program, and calibrated pricing strategies, all while underlining a commitment to their sustainability journey.

Sustained Growth Backed by Strong Fundamentals

Over the past decade, the company underscores a tale of consistent domestic sales growth, showcasing figures that mirror commitment and collaboration. In an impressive display of resilience, growth has remained at a steady rate with 15% and 15.1% over the recent nine-month periods of 2022 and 2023, respectively. Despite lower figures in the last year due to inflationary pressures, confidence is held in the intrinsic strength of the brand and internal strategies to return to previous growth momentum. The narrative is one of a compounding success, with a 7% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) in volume from 2018 to 2022 underpinning the company's upward trajectory.

Strategic Distribution Expansion and Brand Penetration

As the company recovers from the aftermath of the Maggi crisis, it focuses on rebuilding its market presence with improved distribution reach, reflected in a notable increase from 4 million to 5.2 million outlets. The journey hasn't only been extensive but strategic, with 3.6 million of these outlets being indirect and 1.6 million direct. Cemented by a concerted push into rural India, the company is nearing its goal of covering 120,000 villages by 2024 and is currently serving around 191,000 villages in total. A striking transformative effort, dating back to 2020, saw distribution touchpoints more than double from 8,500 to over 18,000, complimented by an almost 50% increase in the sales force, and a leap in in-shop visibility from fewer than 4,000 to about 19,300 outlets today.

Revamped Marketing Strategies Drive Brand Equity

The company's pivot from short-term consumer promotions to sustained brand equity investment is scrawled in its modern blueprint. Previously, as much as 30% of NESCAFé's budget was allocated to short-term incentives; this figure now stands below 10%. This philosophical shift towards long-term brand building demands tenacity and foresight but ultimately yields tangible dividends, manifested in NESCAFé's significant boost in consumption over the last five years—outpacing its growth in the previous half-century. Furthermore, enhanced by data-driven platforms like Midas and an accelerated digital spend accounting for 40-50% of the budget in certain categories, the company's marketing acumen is sharper than ever, targeting consumer clusters with surgical precision.

Diverse Growth Across Urban and Rural Landscapes

The company's growth is not only consistent across the board but also displays nuanced stratification amongst different urban and rural sectors. In the megalopolises with populations exceeding 40 lakh, a three-year CAGR of 15.4% was recorded, with even more robust growth in metro areas at 21%. Class 1 towns posted a 10.2% CAGR, with potential for further improvement upon overcoming volume impacts from price changes. The rural sector, while lesser in company footprint, shows promising expansion with a CAGR of 26.6%, underlining the company's capacity for growth in diverse markets and demographic segments.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q3

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

Good afternoon, everyone. A warm welcome to Nestlé India's analyst and investors meet of 2023, this time in a hybrid format. We are excited to host you in our office after a gap of over 3 years and happy to see many of you joining virtually. I'm Ambereen Ali Shah, Head Media Relations. Today, I have with me senior colleagues from Nestle India's management team; Mr. Suresh Narayanan, Chairman and Managing Director; Ms. Swetlana Boldin, Executive Director of Finance and Control and Chief Financial Officer, Executive Director of Finance and Control and Chief Financial Officer; Mr. Sandra Khajuria, Head, Corporate and Sustainability; Mr. T.S. Venkateswaran, Head Legal; Mr. Pramod Rai, Company Secretary and Compliance Officer. We also have a special invite, Mr. [indiscernible], Head Nestle Global R&D Center, India Private Limited. I would now like to invite my colleague, Mr. [indiscernible], Market Safety Head and Environment Sustainability Manager, to deliver the safety briefing.

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Unknown Executive

Thank you, Ambereen. Good afternoon to all the guests. I'm here to give you the safety briefing regarding 2 emergency scenarios that we envisage for this building. The first one is that of fire. And the second one is that of an earthquake. Our head office building is equipped with a state-of-the-art detection and mitigating measures for the fire, therefore, in case any fire is detected on any floor, you will hear a public announcement to kindly evacuate the building. Please use the 2 emergency exits. One is at the back of the room that you can see and one is here in the front. Please take the same route that you took to come inside the building, which is the main entrance and assemble at the front lawns, and you will be further guided by a crisis manager at the moment.

The second emergency is that of an earthquake. In case we feel any tremors, do not evacuate immediately. Please wait for the tremors to stop. And when you hear the public announcement to evacuate the building, then kindly take the same route and assemble on the front lawns. So there is no fire drill planned for today, and we hope there is no untoward happening in the building today. I wish you a very safe meeting.

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

Thank you, Simmer. Before we begin, I will read out a disclaimer. This presentation may contain statements that reflect the management's current views and estimates that could be construed as following -- as forward-looking. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. The future involves uncertainties and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from the current views being expressed. Volume and mix and organic growth are on the basis of Nestlé's internal reporting standard. Figures are regrouped and reclassified to make them compatible, Calculations are based on nonrounded figures.

Eligible data, our best estimates to facilitate understanding of business and not meant to reconcile reported figures. I would like to request the team to show the disclaimer, please for a minute. I will now request Mr. Narayanan to please take over and make his presentation themed, growing together consistently today and tomorrow.

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. And as always, it's a privilege for me to talk to all of you. You are part of my extended family. And since you've seen me for some years now, you kind of know the tone of music and you can kind of predict the course. But I think this time around, I thought I'll do it a little bit differently.

Typically, you're all very seasoned analysts and investors, and you attend 2 kinds of investor meetings. The first investor meeting is when you're [indiscernible] with loads of information, loads of data, very difficult charts that you can barely read, and you have to decipher it only after the meeting is over to see what exactly has been said. So that is called management by data. The other set is where there are a lot of [indiscernible] and truths and promises, but divide off too much of on-the-ground content in terms of what really is happening.

I do realize your predicament because you have to make your judgment, your calls on not just the company and its performance, but also on the management and ethos and how the organization is going to evolve over a period of time. And therefore, this time around, what I thought I would really title my presentation, and I hope I live up to this as we go forward, is to talk about growing together consistently today and tomorrow. So it's not really about what we have done, but what is it that we do. So why do we do what we do, and what makes us who we are? I think those for me are more compelling questions that you need to ask as investors because data only shows you 1 part of it.

It shows you only the facade that you would like to see of what performance is. But what is under the bonnet and what -- how the engine operates is something that can be quite different. And that's really what we would like to focus on. So therefore, my heartiest welcome to all 30 of you here. I think this is the -- post COVID, the first meeting that we have had in the dual form of having it both personal and also online. And I believe there are about 113, 114 people who already joined online, a hearty welcome to each 1 of them as well from different parts of India and indeed from different parts of the world as well.

So today, for the next hour or so, I will take you through this journey. This journey is full of what we look at as opportunities. What is it that we've achieved as an organization, as a team? And I am like the [indiscernible], like the person who tells you the story about what Nestlé is. And there are many, many people who are behind it, and that's what makes the story that much more interesting. At the end of it all, I do hope to leave you with a certain set of messages or mantras as it were, to define how is it that we would like to continue our journey, and a journey in these times where we have at least 2 full-blown wars, if not 3, full-blown was across the world. The Russia-Ukraine 1 has now become a little bit old act. It has been around for about 2 years. And the latest configuration in the Middle East and it's manifestations of what can happen to geopolitics is anybody's guess. And I don't think it is my role as the Chairman of this company to even prognosticate on that. But all of this is clearly going to have its own challenges as far as the organization and society and India is concerned, which is something that we have to factor in as we look at the further course of our business.

So what is it that I will be talking about in brief. Firstly, I'll take you on a 5-year journey. You have been seeing me from 2015 when we had the burning deck of [indiscernible] and many of you I remember attended the analyst meet with some amount of [indiscernible] saying, what will this company be able to do with itself? Can it really come out of the [indiscernible] in which it finds itself, and can it put itself on the path of growth, profitability, performance and contribution over a period of time?

So I'm really placing it back from 2018, which is when we were kind of getting back on our feet because 2016 was when we -- 2015 end is when we came back with Maggie and in 2016 was a little bit of a buildup to it. There was also the base effect. So it wasn't really at the most appropriate time to make prognostications for the future. 2017 is when the engine started, and 2018 is when a lot of the initiatives that we will be talking of today really got kicked off. So looking back, what we promised and what we delivered, emerging, exciting, aspiring India. Our business is all about consumer marketing.

We are a brand marketing company with this core of brands that have been around for a long time, establishing certain propositions that have stood the test of time. That's who we are. And we operate in the consumer context, which is rapidly changing. And I think it's important for us to understand the context of the change. So rise of the new consumer cohort. And the third element is really our heartbeat 5 Ps. I always believe that an organization is more than the numbers that it manifests. For us, it is purpose, people, planet, partnerships and performance. All of it comes together. That's what makes Nestlé, Nestlé. And that's how I would hope and pray that we continue to be as an organization as a healthy amalgam of these 5 elements that goes to make corporate performance.

And last, but not the least, the key takeaways, what is it that I would have said you would be definitely having many more takeaways than what I have said, but at least what I've articulated would be encompassed in terms of the key takeaways that I would be talking to you about.

So what did we say in 2018? Firstly, we were coming out of a situation where we were bruised. We were hurt as an organization. I think it was an existential crisis that we faced as a company. So we came out of it with a clear indication, with a clear path that we need to be a much larger footprint than who we are in terms of the brand that we have and in terms of the categories and promise that we have got. So innovation at the core, improvise, but act. Perfection is not the journey we sought, improvisation is a journey that we sought. Because it's very easy to go on the perfect path and launch something after 20 years when it is too late. It is another thing to improvise and to be able to use the benefit of science, technology and data to be able to improvise as we go along and make whatever we happen. And today, my colleague, [indiscernible] Barar, will tell you the other side of what we are as a company, the R&D side and the global footprint and how we operate in the Indian context.

Manage for market shares. Our growth should be greater than category growth. We are blessed to have [indiscernible] positions in many categories, but these are all highly competitive categories. I don't think anybody, ladies and gentlemen, has given Nestlé a free lunch. We've had to earn, and we had to sweat, and we have had to bury our heads in order to get whatever points of market share that we've got in order to make ourselves worthy of the consumer choice. Third, key efficiency enhancement through Nestlé Business Excellence. That was a start of the business excellence journey as we came out of the smoldering deck to see how we were able to resurrect the organization in terms of efficiencies and in terms of costs to be able to make a better contribution as we went along.

Speed, sharpness and sustainability. Speed became a mantra for us. Speed over perfection. Being fast, focused and flexible is something that I've been talking about for 8 years now, 9 years going. And the reason is because the world is not waiting for huge change, it's changing dynamically. And organizations and leaderships that are caught up in the time warp of the past, or assuming that things are going to be their way, I think, are making a fatal mistake. And that means that you get some things right and some things wrong. And I'm open enough to say that at Nestlé, we got some things right, and somethings not so right, but that's part of the journey. If you're not tried at all, I don't think you have any reason to count yourself as being successful. So speed, sharpness and sustainability.

Growth dimension. We came out of a bruising crisis where we said to ourselves we will thrive and not survive. It's a mindset issue. The mindset is important in an organization of 8,000, 9,000 people. If everybody is looking at survival as an instinct, being able to make my next week's sale, if that is going to be the only survival instinct that you have, you cannot think 3 years on, 5 years on. So the task of leadership is to get the mindset into a thriving mode and to look at opportunities rather than survival mode, and that's something that we have been working on. I would not say it is to perfection. There are still parts of the journey that we are still traversing, but I think by and large, we are where we are.

The recognition that India is diverse and that there is no spray and pray model as we have applied in the past, which is fundamentally to take a mix and to throw it at some part of the country, hope and pray that it sticks there, and thereby, we will be able to make a stronger proposition as we move forward is a thing of the past. So today, using the power of digital analytics and investment in infrastructure, we have had clusters, micro targeting and resourcing for action. This was a dream then, a thought then. And that thought has, later on, got action. Action engagements with the environment and issues thereof. Environment not only means the environment as we understand it, climate and the issues around it, and sustainability that is around it, but also environment in being able to be proactive in terms of what is changing around us, right? And I think that also involves a degree of pro-activity and action that is deliberate and that is conscious and not something that is [indiscernible]. And finally, something that I'm very, very passionate about is people, passion, progress as a way of life.

I fundamentally believe that the history of companies will be written on the achievements of the talent that they've got. Companies can come with a great amount of investments, great factories, huge offices and tremendous infrastructural capabilities and data capabilities. But they don't -- if they don't have 500 people or 100 people to make that difference, is going to go kaput, any industry, and the consumer goods industries especially prone to it. There are companies, which have moved on the digital path and forgotten that there is a road that has to be worked called the Bazar. There is a relationship that has to be built with a retailer. There is somebody called a distributor who's been around for [indiscernible] years. And there is also a retailer who decides when to buy and how to buy apart from the consumer who is, for him, the ultimate person that he's catering to.

That relationship between what would be digital, data, analytics and feet on the ground, dust and grind is the difference that people make to the organization. And that's something that I'll also be briefly talking to you about.

Let me take the first piece. Emerging, exciting, aspiring India is the rise of the new consumer cohort. Those of us who are sitting in the world believing that consumers are by and large homogenous, by and large, consistent in behavior by and large, conscious of the decisions that they take, and by and large, coherent in terms of the path that they take, I think, are making a fatal mistake. Because the consumer journey has undergone a tremendous change. This change is spawning not only new consumption platforms and new startups that are in the space of ensuring that they're able to make their link with the consumer. At the same time, some of the older companies [indiscernible] to think their own strategies as to how to approach this consumer and how to make things happen. And I think that's really the excitement in this journey.

Here is a data that all of you are aware of. The fifth largest global economy getting to be the fourth, hopefully, by 2030, when we might overtake Japan. That's the hope that we've got. 1.4 billion consumers, which is the better part of the world put together. So I don't think there is ever going to be a consumption problem. The problem in India is going to be, how do you trigger that consumption? And in fact, there are enough articles that have been written that the problem is not on consumption, the problem is really going to be on supply, right? That seems to be the theory that is also doing the rounds. Whatever it is, I think it's a fairly significant opportunity. I would rather be in a country, which has got an opportunity of 1 billion people than sit in a country which has got opportunity of 400,000 people. And that's also declining as the years go by, even though they are extremely wealthy and they have a lot of money in their pockets and willingness in their hearts.

The last one, the addressable population, and this is the addressable population as far as Nestlé is concerned. So this is not the addressable population. If you were talking to other companies, maybe the size of the price is different. I want to define to you that the [ 487 ] million is basically what we call the striving and the middle class of the country. This 487 million is likely to go to about 700-odd million in the next couple of years. Probably by 2030, there is enough estimate to say that this will become the consuming class. This consuming class is our focus. It's not to say that we have no interest in the rest of the population. It is just to say that the primary bread and butter of this company will come from the 487 million people who habit this particular class.

It is, therefore, the rising middle class and consumption-driven growth. If you look at India itself, whatever statistics that has been published, that is of some reliability shows that the total food and beverage market, all categories put together, [indiscernible] and package is about $800 billion, $790 billion to $800 billion. If you look at the packaged food and beverage, is about $100 billion, it's about 1/8. If you look at the branded packaged F&B, it's about $40 billion. So you can see that the play between $40 billion and $800 billion is still allowing us tremendous room for innovation, for growth, for channels, for aspirations, for categories, for brands. That's what makes the food market that much more exciting.

Penetration levels are still, and I'll come to that, relatively modest. Not to say they are low, but they are modest. And I think there is still an opportunity. So therefore, whether we call it the bird of gold, which was the Mackenzie report, or whether we call it the rise of India's new middle class or whether we call it creating the $6 trillion opportunity, all of this is pointing to the fact that there is a larger number that is there that still is leaving a lot of room, headroom for growth. And that is really the opportunity that consumers -- and that consumers are looking for. And that players like us, players like Nestlé, need to play up to over a period of time.

So while I know that everyone gets concerned about consumptions and demands and volume growth in the last quarter, in the last 2 quarters, last 3 quarters, ladies and gentlemen, here is the proposition. The proposition is the fact that these data points will be blips in the curve if you really were to look at the opportunity that companies and organizations can leverage into the future, can leverage. Whether they do it or not, time will tell, but at least they can leverage into the future. And that is the mindset that we have at Nestlé.

I have never once -- and having been in the business head here for a long time, I've never once told my people, please correlate GDP growth with your growth. It's meaningless. Whether the GDP growth at 6% or 60%, my penetration levels remain at 40% to 50% to maybe 80% on an annual basis. I still have enough headroom, and I gave you the math, $800 billion total market, $41 billion packaged -- branded package. 1/20 is the play that we've got.

So therefore, that is the kind of approach that we would like to take as far as our own market is concerned.

[ Prize ] of new India. I think this is something that is really helping. It's helping in more ways than one. The first, of course, is the digital India, which is 1.2 billion mobile users. I know this data is fairly common, so therefore, kindly excuse my sharing this data with you, but it is to pull a certain -- build a certain context of where we see the consumption evolving. 20 GB per capita data consumption per month. it's huge. I know most of it is videos. But nevertheless, it is still a significant consumption of data that we have got.

Infrastructure will rise. 29 kilometers of road built per day for the last 8, 10 years. This has tangible impact on the reurbanization plan of the company, tangible impact. I'm able to make distribution happen. I'm able to make availability happen. I am able to reduce the cost of distribution. I'm able to make access possible. I am able to make sustainability possible. So this is not just nice to know stuff facts on India. This is leading to economic growth and development as I see it on the ground. 100% rural electrification, I think we all know the benefit of getting some amount of electricity and light into your lives. 470 million Gen Z population. We have the largest Jez population in the world. This Gen Z population is a very different kettle of fish as compared to all of us. I'm very happy that this office here that you have come to is 80% [indiscernible] and Gen Z. The office is made in a particular way, right? It is not my gen. It is a next gen that's here. Their aspirations and their ways of thinking on brands is quite different, and that's really what we look at as a company.

UPI transactions, 10 billion. This data is also a little bit dated. It's probably closer to 12 billion now, and INR 1.5 trillion of transactions. Interesting to note that when I travel to a village close to Patna, and I ask the retailer how much of your payment is done through cash, he say 20%. 80% is done through either phone pay or 1 of the other -- Paytm or 1 of the other apps. And he says, sir, the biggest advantage is I don't have to handle cash anymore. I'm scared because people will come and rob me of my cash, if I'm not careful. That is the transformation that's taking place. So issues of pricing, coinage, INR 5.95, INR 4.75, getting out gradually. Yes, still cash is king, and cash is still important, but these issues are becoming a little bit more things of the past.

Entrepreneur rise, I think this is fueling also a lot of positive energy. I look at it positively. I think there are statements being made that, look, there is enough of local competition, and therefore, we have to fear local competition. I don't local competition helps all of us to redefine and recalibrate ourselves even better than what we are. And I think in their development is the development of the category. Imagine if there are 200 more of these unicorns that enter the food space. The entire food ecosystem can go dramatically up from that $40-odd billion, right, to $70 billion, $80 billion, $100 billion. That's good for the country. It's good for the consumer. It's good for all of us because all of us will wake up. things that we have not done before. Competition is the biggest Alexa to make competitiveness happen. If you're all sitting in a space where nobody comes and touches us, we will do exactly what we feel like, and that's what was the situation of the consumer 30, 40 years ago. So that's, I think, becoming different. And of course, annual FDI, which is also fairly significant.

The and truth about India, I think this is the other one, which is interesting. Urban 35% population, rural 65% population, we all know it, we all know it pretty well. What's more interesting is the premiumization of India. Today, in the nutrition category, for example, 30% is the nutrition -- premium nutrition contribution. And yet affords tax below -- below INR 10 is 72% of the market. Premium is important. Price point is also important. A company that is looking at a pure premium strategy will have a niche play, but a larger company would definitely look at all these price points. Penetration, monthly category penetration, I made the point earlier to you, anywhere between 10% to 50%, monthly. Annual penetration 80%. Penetration defined as the number of times that the consumer has bought a brand during the last 1 year. Why is it once? Gets counted in 80%. Why is it once a month? It gets counted in the 10% to 15%. That's the difference. Therefore, the strategy that we have had as a company, which has been initiated and I know your all Board of listening to this is penetration-led volume growth. I keep telling my people that resell cases. we sell [indiscernible], we sell packs. We don't sell rupees. We get rupees. So it's important that, that perspective be taken care of because again, on a per capita packaged food consumption, we are much smaller than China, which is about 4.2x, much smaller than Philippines, which is 3.3x. There is a huge headroom here. I'm not saying this as a promise. I'm saying this as something that we need to remember in this sector. It's not going to be easy. It's not going to be all achieved in 1 year or 2 years. But the light at the end of the tunnel in a category that is large, in a category that is underrepresented, in a category that is decent is far better than in the category that is clotted, clogged and completely bereft of any growth opportunities. And that's really where we are in -- as far as food and beverage is concerned.

Connected, I think we talked about mobile usership and Internet users. I think we see it every day. The less I belabor on this the better. And yet we have the traditional media as well, 892 million people, who're television viewers. That's an important dimension of what we are as a country.

Lifestyle trends. So I talked about the economy. I talked about the infrastructure. I talked about consumption, urban, rural, premiumization. Here, I'm zeroing in on the lifestyle trends of the Gen Zs and millennials. Why is this important? Because this is the consumption of the future. Any company that tells you that I'm looking at consumers amorphously, and I'm really not bothered what age, what gender, what background they are -- are -- are making a fatal mistake. Because this is where the market is moving. That's 470 million people who hopefully will have pockets -- money in their pockets 1 day soon enough. Many of them spend, even if they don't have money in their pockets right now, right? They happen to be our kids, right? Still, will be on these behaviors that we're talking about. First, natural, fresh sustainable, 90 million out of that 400-odd million is health conscious individuals, and that's the finding of [indiscernible]. So these are all data that we have put together.

Realization, who says people watch television extensively? Today, it's all about Facebook Reels. 22% more engagement. Instagram Reels gets more engagement than other Instagram post. So communication has to be [indiscernible], pretty frequent and catching, as to cash, that puts the enormous pressure on the creative consumer insight capabilities and data capabilities of companies because I should know what I'm talking about. And for that, I have to measure for which I have to go to real-time data, capability of the organization to absorb real-time data to be able to take those decisions. It's not just an algorithm that throws up something to us. Somebody has to sit there and figure it out. That's why the talent piece is so very important because you have the right people, you can make that happen.

Experiences, identity and personal, 70% are seeking personalized services and products. It's an opportunity and a challenge. How can companies get and, for example, the D2C channel for us is a channel where experiences and personalization will be something that we'll be [indiscernible]. Because that's where I can give it. Today, at scale, I'm not able to do it -- I can't have a Maggie just made for you. I still haven't reached that stage. But hopefully, I'll be able to carry some of my brands on D2C to be able to customize it to consumers and see how that works.

How to customize services? I want to have a nutrition feedback. I want to have some counseling done. I go to the D2C site. I fix up with a doctor of my choice or who is available on the panel for a personalized advice to me on lifestyle, nutrition and anything else that I want to ask. That's the first beginning. The company of the future is going to be a company that is going to be not just brand marketing, but brand marketing with a very strong service arm. Today, we have brands-first digital following companies. Very soon, it is going to be digital-first brands following companies. The digital first will become a more important imperative for brand choice and the brand itself. That's how this industry is evolving as we look forward.

Experimentation. I think this is the reason [indiscernible] why we as a company exists because we are capable of giving that experimentation mode to consumers over a period of time. 43% of consumers in this segment are saying that they're open to experiment with new categories. And that, I think, is healthy. Because sometimes you get consumers who're stuck on particular values and particular segments and particular products. It also puts a lot of pressure on brands like us because we have brands as old as the hills, which stands for something. We have to constantly keep -- we have to keep changing as was said once before by a great business leader, changing the wheels of the car while in motion. That's really what we have to do in consumer marketing terms. So it's an exciting space, but nevertheless, a fairly [indiscernible] space.

Trust is important. Nothing has become more important post-COVID than trust. Consumers trusted brands during COVID, said these are the brands that we trust, and they tend to remain with it over a period of time. Even this generation, the Gen Zs, which are considered to be [indiscernible] that move from 1 to the other, not really so. They stick to what they believe that presents them. Now it could be product related, could be service related, platform related, environment related, whatever is the reason for it, but they still stick to it, and that element of trust is very, very important.

Indulgence. Mindful indulgence is a fairly high component. 68%, taste is the most important driver. That's where a company like Nestlé that's where an R&D center like what we have in [indiscernible] come in. If I give you a distasteful product and say this is fantastic nutrition, you would [indiscernible] and if you taste it, you say, Yak,this is not to be. To provide taste and to provide nutrition, that's the trick. And therefore, that makes it for this generation, an important imperative, and that's really what we play -- plays into the strengths that we have as a company.

Snacking and varieties, I think it's on the earlier chart that we talked about in terms of mindful intelligence. 7 in 10 snack more than pre-COVID. Again, this whole snacking and healthy snacking territory is becoming more and more important.

Health, wellness and hygiene. 78% consider themselves as more conscious heaters now. So a combination of better for you, good nutrition, good taste, experimentation, a bit of indulgence and trust, along with value-seeking are behaviors that are going to go and cement the consumer choices that are going to be made in the future.

Why do I talk about this? Because while this might, in some extent, reflect on the performance of the company in the recent past, it is more a precursor of what is to follow. Because these are the consumer trends. I don't talk in the air of stuff that I believe. This is what the consumer believes. And whatever the consumer believes is what we should be believing as organizations. So our purpose, this is only Nestlé, the only picture that has not changed, right? And Nestlé still remains the same. And we put out the purpose of the organization is unlocking the power of food to enhance the quality of life for everyone today and for generations to come. [indiscernible] is life, as you know, as [indiscernible] entrepreneur, right, where is businesses and finally decided with the goodness of heart to save the lives of children in what was then poor Switzerland. That gave rise to the company, which is first product, which still exists in a market called [indiscernible], but also gave the DNA of the company, which is food quality and safety. That's what we are about. Because his statement was, if the closest relationship to human kind, between a mother and child, is nurtured by Nestlé, and we have to be the standards of quality and safety. And that really has been the single-minded focus of the company ever since. So our heartbeat, as I said, the 5 Ps, purpose, people, planate, partnerships, and performance. I'll take you very quickly through this in the same order.

What is our road map? What have we said, or what are we doing? I want to put it as simply as possible. I can show you a pretty complicated chart with all kinds of arrows flying across in different directions. That is not my style. I would rather explain to you very simply that the 2 calibrations of our strategy is focus and growth, focus on purpose, planet, partnerships, people and performance. That's how we really look at each element of our business model. And in terms of growth, penetration-led growth, so in all the turmoil that we are going through and that we will go through, penetration-led growth will not fall off even for a day. I want to assure you that.

This company is not just seeking a unidimensional path. We all know that volumes lead to organic growth, not the other way up. So penetration led value volume growth. Strong cost and efficiency management because in the context in which we are, I think this is going to play an important role. Brand salience, investing behind the equity of brands, not diluting it, not playing with it, not distracting with it, not trying new experiments with it that is going to take us from the essence of the brand, these are important disciplines. Unfortunately, sometimes we forget it, but these are important disciplines. Competitive advantage for R&D, and just my friend, [indiscernible], will talk about the global context and the local context, investing and innovating.

Investing consistently in infrastructure, in supply chain, in logistics, in various parts of the chain in order to make us into a more competitive company. That's the whole core. Whatever we focus on are these wheels, these 5 wheels that we really focus on and it's called our growth model. This model incidentally is a model that is clear to even the front line sales force of the company. I've always believed that a model that is only understood by 10 people in the office or by 20 analysts is a waste of time. It needs to be understood by every salesman in this company, saying penetration-led volume growth is what this company is seeking.

I have to sell more. I have to sell wider. I have to sell deep. Remember, these 3 principles and the rest of it follows. So it is, ladies and gentlemen, as simple as that, but we've choose to make it even more complicated and take everything else, therefore, a little bit intractable for us. What is our story, let me quickly go through this. It's, I think, a story that you're all aware of. It's a legacy of 110 years of safe quality nutrition. We are made in India story, a make in India story. 98% of what we sell in India is made in India. So we are embedded in the society of this country.

Happen to have Swiss parentage, but everything else about us is very much Indian in terms of who we are. India is 1 of the fastest-growing markets for Nestlé. We've had that pride position for some time now. 8,000 plus employees, 194,000 plus shareholders. Now with the share split that has been announced, that number will probably go up, right, over a period of time. 10th factory to be set up in Orissa and this factory is going to be special. There are 6 factories across the world that have been identified as factories of the future by the company. So these are factories, some in Latin America and America, some in Europe and some in Asia or [indiscernible] Africa, which will have all the infrastructure capabilities, digital technologies, environmental management procedures, processes, et cetera, which will be showcasing the best that food processing in the world has to offer.

Nestlé is the world's biggest food company, and therefore, this is the promise that we have taken on and what has been the kind of expectation of India to put up the factory of the future as far as Orissa is concerned. So there is, at the moment, about INR 800 crores, INR 900 crores of investment that's going behind it, much more will follow, and I think it will be reached into being what we want to be, which is refractory of the future.

10,000-plus distributors and redistributors, 5.2 million plus outlets, 108% return on equity. I'd like to put this number down there because there are not too many companies that are able to meet that number. And what is a matter of great pride for me is, it's 1 thing to be a profitable growing company. What is important to the employees of this company is the impact that we can have. I think that is important. That's what sometimes corporate India does not measure. We look at all the matrices of financial performance, which is important. But that I make an impact on society is equally important, if not more. And there, again, about 10 million plus as far as the societal initiatives of the company are concerned.

What is our brand footprint? Just a few examples. 12 billion cups of [indiscernible] is what gets consumed in a year, 5 billion serves of noodles, 3.3 billion fingers of KITKAT, 2.2 billion fingers of Munch, 29 million tonnes of milk made, and 701 Nestlé [indiscernible] dotted across the country, which attract more than 1.2 crore people each year visit it. In all 12 billion packs reaching homes, serving families, touching lives and yes, in the 300 million households that got this country, Nestlé covers almost 200 million households as of now. Our urban presence on households is definitely much higher. Rural penetration has also started to pick up. So we are at about 200 million households today out of 300 million households, but the journey is upward in terms of the progress that we are making.

Bringing purpose to life through powerful brands. I think world-class safety and quality is guaranteed. Why do I emphasize this? Because This will define for you any short-term trade-offs that the company might or might not make. And the 1 thing that this company will not make is a compromise on quality and safety. There's the way you buy a Nestle brand because it's a Nestlé and you trust that brand. Our trust cores are amongst the highest of any food brand in this country. And that's because of the quality and safety. Even during the worst times that we had, the consumer feedback on the brand with this company cannot be what it is said to be. There must be something that's happening out there. And I think that's something that we stick to.

Innovation, remember, I talked about in the 2018, first slide, on innovation being a driver of growth, 125 new products launched in the last 7 years contributes today to about 6% of sales. This is again going in the upward direction. Some of them have worked, some of them are not necessarily work. And there are at least 10 new important projects which are in the pipeline, which is something that will be out between this year and next year to really cement the growth that we are enjoying.

Bringing purpose to life by recalibrating innovation. So 1 thing is to have innovations, the other thing is to look at the science of nutrition, and that's where we have domain knowledge and expertise. We spent close to $2 billion on R&D investment globally each year. And that's with a purpose. The purpose is to really enhance the nutritional profile of the products that we launch. So we have, into 3 categories, what is called, good for you, good for farmers and good for environment. Good for us, high-end fiber, low-end calories, higher nutrients. There are some examples here. And 1 of the proud examples, the latest 1 is, of course, [indiscernible], that really has been done in collaboration with 1 of the leading government institutions, the India Institute of [indiscernible Research. We have an ongoing collaboration that [indiscernible] will talk about. But really, this is a foray that has been done, and I think today's newspapers that we see has got a big prominent add on millets, right, that we are looking at the next phase of grain technologies into -- coming into the Nestlé products.

Good for farmers. I think this is something that benefits everyone, benefits society. So climate resistant crops, plus also using less water and more resistant to pests. And finally, requiring less water and less carbon footprint. So these are some of the millet products that have been launched. There will be more to come. But the reason why I put this up is because these are stuff that's already there in the market that we are proud of. There is more to follow. Some of those 10 projects that we're talking about is in the same space of better nutrition.

This is really the societal impact. Why do I talk about this at this stage? Because, ultimately, our goal as a company is to do -- is to be a force for good. And being a force for good is not just lining the wallets of investors, but also to contribute to society at a larger scale. This is what our programs do. We touch about 10 million lives across 25 states and union territories on primarily 5 areas, nutrition awareness, water sanitation and hygiene education, environment and rural development. I'm not going into details because this is an area that we have covered in the past. So therefore, I would not like to take the time again to go through this. If we some interest, maybe in a subsequent calization, we can always talk about it.

People, the soul of our business. I think this is something that is central to who we are as a company. And here, again, I think we look at diversity. Yes, we have good people. Yes, we have good talent. Yes, we have committed talent. But what are we looking at for the future? Diversity is something that is important to us. I'm very proud of the fact that in the recent Economic Times article, the only large listed company that had the maximum number of -- on diversity of directors was Nestlé. We have 50% of our Board members who are women, who sit on the Board of Nestlé, including [indiscernible], who is my Finance Director and CFO. And I think it's made a huge difference to the way the company is governed. It is something that is very enriching as far as the organization itself is concerned. Multigenerational workforce, and over 25% of our workforce today, of our employees today are women and the direction is, again, upwards.

Women are a key part of management, a key resource of the company. It's something that we have looked at very strongly in terms of making our policies more female friendly, more mother friendly, more employee friendly in order to make ourselves a more competitive and a more coherent organization.

Today, the picture that you see on your left, be a force for good, is our journey into the LGBTQ space. we have started to now look at how we can employ LGBTs in the organization, which part of the organization can we have them? And the starting point, of course, was sponsor a large art work done by 1 of the foundations on art that is run by LGBT. It's only a start of the journey, but I believe that we are committed to it.

[indiscernible], which is 95% of the workforce, are less than 40 years of age. This is our 9th factory. More than 60% of the workforce are women. Here, again, we are doing something that is different. A dozen people with disabilities work on the production line and they're all hearing impaired. The duty is that the rest of the workers are now learning sign language to be able to communicate with the hearing-impaired people. Why do I do this? And why do I share it with you? A sensitive, empathetic, compassionate, coherent organization delivers consistently better results than a fiercely competitive, but a less compassionate organization. It's probably a theory that I've got, and you may choose to disagree with it, but that's the theory that at least has worked as far as my own career is concerned. And I believe that, that is an important part. How do you foster and engender this into the company and make this into a more enriched place, can lead to also better performances as we'll come to.

So let me share with you a video on [indiscernible] [Presentation]

Okay. So this is a glimpse of [indiscernible]. I think this is now getting into Phase II and Phase III now. It's being expanded considerably and will become, in the next couple of years, our largest factory probably in the country and majority of women factories. So that's what we are very happy about. Committed to a sustainable future as far as the planet is concerned. Why are we talking about this? Because, for us, the sustainability journey is an irrevocable part of our journey. There are companies that look at it from the point of view of an ESG kind of lens. For us, this has been an intrinsic part of who we are. I think because of our parentage in Switzerland. Ecology, environment and protecting has been something that has been part of our DNA. How well we have done it over the period of years is still something that's evolving, but 4 elements to it, climate packaging, water and responsible sourcing. What have we done here? Our investments have gone up 6x, 6x between 2020 to 2023 in terms of sustainability. We have 60 people now who are engaged either full-time or part-time on sustainability-related projects. There is a sustainability governance council, which I had as the Chairman of the company, and there are different projects and different business leaders who co-opt their time and the times of their people behind these projects. These are all monitored. These are all resourced and these are all measured so that this doesn't just become something that I have to put in the BS RS report, but something that is an intrinsic part of who we are as a company. And we work here with 10 direct and indirect partners because fundamentally, as a company, as I said, we are a brand marketer. We are not sustainability experts, but this is a journey that we are also still learning and making part of our way of working.

Our ambitious -- ambition is to make sustainable choices. So we will be coal-free manufacturing locations by mid-2024. Not a single kilogram of coal will be used anywhere. With the fossil fuel free also hopefully by mid-2025, not earlier, and therefore, move completely to renewable sources. And one of the things that I'm very proud about and being in this part of the country is that stubble bricked are being used in the Moga factory to build the biomass facility, to reduce the stubble burning. Almost 4% of the stubble burning in the district and about 17% in the area is going to happen because of this facility, biomass facility, hopefully, will be coming up by the first quarter of next year. And it will be, to whatever extent, giving us one extra breadth of oxygen, I hope, and maybe 1 year more of life as far as the people are concerned.

Plastic, people will say, yes, you guys talk about sustainability, what about plastic. Plastic is definitely an important part of who we are. About 23,300 tonnes in 2022 were collected by us as part of EPR. All our brands are plastic neutral for the past 3 years. This is measurable, established. So there's no green washing, white washing, pink washing here. This is all measured and established as to how we have recycled this plastic. The methods are not always the very best. There are still a lot of contemporary work that we are doing. And therefore, we have chosen to, and you will hear of this in the coming future to invest behind recycling capability people who're going to put up these facilities to recycle some of our staff, so that we have certain in the fire as far as these capabilities are concerned.

Brand-led initiatives to address plastic waste. I think all of the brands are involved in it. Maggie is involved in it. You see here a picture of which is really to ensure that young kids are equally sensitized to plastic as they grow up. So this is something that's an important part of our journey.

Sustainable agriculture. As you know, that we've got a dairy fitment, thanks to our mills and nutrition business. 100,000 dairy farmers are engaged with us, 340 billion kilograms of milk collected last year, multiple interventions to reduce the GAG in dairy value chain. And I will just show you one example of this in the next video. [Presentation]

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Suresh Narayanan
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Why do I show you this? I show you this because this is work on the ground. This is not an intention on sustainability in greenhouse gases. This is work that's been done. It's been done by my team, a young group of people. It takes a huge effort, village by village, farm by farm, farmer by farmer to make this conversion happen. Because in greenhouse gases, Dairy is one of the significant parts of it. And unless we start making the change, this has to be a national movement, but at least we are seeing as a player in this industry, let's invest behind it. So we are, in a sense, having a kind of a pioneering road in this because this will be an essential element of mitigating some of the carbon emisson and the carbon footprint as we go forward. But this is an ongoing task and also something that keeps us going as a company.

Coffee, I think this is fantastic. I mean we have a terrific NESCAFÉ business. Today, we are celebrating 10 years plus of the NESCAFÉ plan, again, a labor of love, on farming, on practices, on sustainability. More than 5,000 coffee farmers engaged. We have a NESCAFÉ coffee training center in a place called Kushalnagar. 55% of the coffee procured is sustainably. And what is interesting for you to note is that about half of the sustainable robust coffee in this country, being in this country is sourced through the Nestlé system. So that's the kind of footprint that we have set as far as the sustainability is concerned. The short video on this to show you again, work on the ground. [Presentation]

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

The farmer talked about premium. Nestlé pays for every kilogram of sustainably sourced coffee over INR 3 per kilogram extra to the farmer. So every time you drink a cup of NESCAFÉ, this is my brand pitch. You are supporting sustainability. That's really what is being done. So it takes a lot of effort, but I think we have a fantastic team and a huge ecosystem that works on this. Again, farmer by farmer. It has taken us 10 years to get to 5,000 farmers. Somebody who say, why not 500,000 farmers, why not 5 million farmers. But you have to convert farmer by farmer to this practice and make them understand and look at the benefit of it. And this is really what we're working with.

Spice, similar. Spice, as you know, is an essential part of our business and 1,250 farmers across 8 states are working with us, focusing on people, planet and profitability, and we are ensuring 100% traceability of cumin, coriander, chili and turmeric as far as our products are concerned. This is the ask of the consumer as we move forward. And this is a journey that we are also taking as a company.

Sustainable manufacturing is not just sustainability in terms of farms procurement, but also in terms of manufacturing. In the last 15 years, the greenhouse gas emissions have dropped by 52%. The water usage has dropped by 51%. The wastewater generation has dropped by 38% and the energy usage has dropped by 36%. 15 years far -- well before any of the ESG issues have become imported. Why? Because these have been targets set for the company for a long time. I have been with the company for 24 years, and I can tell you, ever since I joined this company, I remember what we have seen these targets coming up at every management and leadership meeting, saying how are we doing on this and what are we doing about this. Proprietary technologies have been put behind the extraction of groundwater and really trying to ensure that we deplete as little of the groundwater as possible.

Again, on sustainable logistics, I think we have moved in the use of railways. I think during COVID, we had the first rail breakthrough. It was one of necessity, but it translated also into a very efficient system. Better payload utilization, LNG fleet, reducing CO2 emissions and higher usage of CNG and electric vehicles. Some of these others also have done, but we are also proud to be part of that bandwagon.

Partnerships, I think this is something that's essential part of our business. We have more than 2,000 distributors, 470. So almost 25% of them have been for more than 10 years and almost 80% of them have been for more than 20 years with the company. This is the ground that we talked about. This is the people who make things happen. If our market share has happened, if our growth happens, if you reveal at our organic growth and whatever else we do, please thank these guys because these are the follows are making it happen.

I'll just take an example of Mr. Balasubramaniam, who is the third generation of V.G. Rajamani and company, who are our distributors in Coimbatore. For the last 60 years, they've been doing our business. Their business has grown from INR 3.6 lakhs to INR 40 crores per annum. And yet, Mr. Balasubramaniam, who's standing there in the blue shirt still starts the day with the sales call. He can be a rich business man sitting in his office and getting people to do it, but he sits it. That's the Nestlé way. That's the way that I'm very proud of because that's the way in which businesses to be done.

Again, Ms. Sharma of the Swabhiman network, this is something that we started 2 years back. It's a rural entrepreneurship program. Other companies also have done it. But we have -- now since we have got a rulable strategy, we have started this program. Almost 1,600 women entrepreneurs in small villages across 14 states, generating a business of about INR 8 crores at the moment. But nevertheless, it is playing into the penetration of these brands and also creating some amount of self-sufficiency in the women entrepreneurs in terms of earnings of extra income.

The rulable story, therefore, has also carried forward into more than 18,000 heart activities. You might have seen the recent coverage in Mint of India of Nestlé's venture into Bharat, which is really covering some of what we are doing in durable India. More than 16,000 distribution touch points, I'll come to that. And coverage across 7,405 towns.

Supply and networks, I think, Empire Packaging has been with the company for 45 years. 45 years, he has been at the company, he's one of the big suppliers. And Mr. Kannan there on the right, who supplies seals as far as our cappa packs are concerned. His family has been with us also for over 40 years. So this is a network that we have got of almost 4,500 suppliers who have been with us for a long time.

Why do I mention this to you because continuity and sustainability and trustworthiness of relationships is established over a period of time. These are the same people who stayed with the company during its worst crisis. So today, as the sun shines, they are still with us, and they will continue to be with us. And I think that's really the ecosystem, the arrears on the earth why the company does what it does.

again, Mr. Vinay started by supplying 2 kilograms of turmeric on this cycle. Today, he has worked with us for 40 years. He has a turnover of INR 650 crores and he exports to a lot of countries, right?

So these are the partners who've built themselves and also build the organization over all these years. That's the second generation of Mr. Budhiraja that you see there.

What have we done using all of this. We've been using our data and analytics framework. I'm not going to talk much about it because we spoke about it at some length last time. Simplification and consolidation. That's one of the things that we are doing, looking at ways and means of consolidating the number of touch points, number of distributors, viability of distributors, using technology and using Marketing and consumer insights using our Midas platform, and we have now started rolling out with which is a retailer self-order application. But this is not going to substitute in-shop contact of the sales. That is still important for this company.

You still need to get your line calls. You still need to get your merchandising. You still need to get your bag goods collected. You still need to have your rain setting done, all of which is now enabled using Midas analytics. So when a salesman gets into an outlet, he knows exactly what outlets -- what SKUs to sell, what promotions to drive and what kind of issues there are with the particular retail outlet, all the part of data and analytics. But he still has to go there. This is not substituting for that, and that's something that we are very particular about.

A quick look at performance, which is the last element, consistent collaborative and committed. This is our track record, 10 years of strong domestic sales growth. The numbers have been very consistent. Nine months '22, 9 months 2023, 15%, 15.1%. So the growth journey still continues. I'll come to why this growth journey has happened. This growth journey is predicated on volume growth.

So roughly 7% CAGR between 2018 and 2022. Last year has been a bit lower clearly because of the inflation. The numbers before this 2022 were much higher because of the overall context in but I am confident that we will come back to the growth sooner than later because the intrinsic power of the brands and the force that we are using within the organization continues to be strong.

Value growth, therefore, CAGR 11.3% in the last 5 years. This is 2018 to 2023 period that we are talking about. The fortunes of India have also evolved. I'm giving you to class sales. So I can tell you 15% sales, but if it is in a particular corner of the country, it is not very representative. Mega cities, which is the large cities more than 40 lakh population. Our growth 3-year CAGR has been 15.4%. Our metro CAGR has been 21%. Our town Class 1, the CAGR has been 10.2%, it would have been higher because we've had a couple of impacts on volumes because of the price changes that have taken place in the small packs, but this is again going to come back. 2 to 6, 11.2%. And yes, I do admit, I have a lower footprint on rural, but my growth is pretty neat, 26.6%. And even in the last quarter, it was a growth that was fairly significant.

So this is where we are. So there is a granularity in this and the journey that we have taken is a logical journey. There's nothing illogical in what we have done. So if you look at our route to market and distribution, we were at about 4 million outlets in 2016. This was post the Maggi crisis, where distribution has actually shrunk. We have built it back brick by brick, outlet by outlet, geography by geography, channel by channel to 5.2 million today, out of which 3.6 million is indirect, 1.6 million is direct.

How has this been done? We've also deepened the rural reach, again, actual data that is being shared with you here. 120,000 is what is the ambition we had said that we will cover by 2024, villages with the population greater than 2,000. We are sitting at about 108,000 now, and total number of villages, we are sitting at about 191,000.

What have we done here? This is stuff that is on the ground. This is not stuff that we think should be part of our presentation. This is actual statistics that stand on the ground. Point number one, strengthen the distribution infrastructure in terms of touch points. We had about 8,500 prior to 2020. Today, we have got more than 18,000. So there is a more than doubling of the number of distribution touch points. That really helps because that's the way in which distribution capitally happens.

Feet on the street. Yes, expanded number of touch points, but screens on the number of people. No, you can't do that. You can't get a distribution system out of senior. The Mitra app is not going to get people attracted towards your brand unless somebody goes and meets them. So sales are up by almost 50%, 2,200 to 3,100 and going up for a period of time.

In-shop visibility. We do all the basic things. These are the basic things that still need to be done. In-shop visibility from less than 4,000 outlets in 2020 to about 19,300 outlets today. So that we ensure that our key brands are visible, present at all points in time.

Heart activation. No point just putting the brand there if consumers don't know what to do with it. Today, if consumers ask for Kit Kat or NESCAFÉ is because somebody has done an activation. Somebody has gone to a rural heart and set up a store and said, [Foreign Language] It has to be taught. It's not -- it's not going to happen by just magic. So the heart activation has gone up significantly, 2,500 in 2021, 18,000 till now, and last year was 20,000. So this year, again, the full year figure will be definitely higher than what we did last year.

And we and all this consistent media support, as I've reported in the last quarter results as well, significant monies have been put behind investing behind the growth pillars, using efficiencies in purchasing media, in targeted consumer and deleveraging consumer clusters using both digital, Midas and the capabilities that we have, accelerated digital spend, which in some categories and some brands today is as high as 40% to 50% of all expenses. And investing in building brand equity versus short-term promotions.

One of the things we have issued as a company, there was a time, 7, 8 years ago when on NESCAFÉ, 25% to 30% of our money used to go behind consumer promotions, short-term incentives. Today, less than 10%. We said we'll build the equity of the brand. That's really important. It takes time. It takes effort. It takes a bit of courage because you get knocked on the head in the short term, but longer term, it is better. And what has been the result? The result is in the last 5 years, NESCAFÉ has added more cups to consumption than in the previous 50 years. That's the part of equity building, and that's what we are following. And that's the reason why we do well on these businesses because of that.

And that is really led all this -- today, you see the RURBAN phenomenon, the phenomenon of portfolio management, of category management. Again, that has given us the results that you see. Milk products and Nutrition, some of you keep stopping at it, saying, yes, yes, but this one is a little bit of a doubt, 15.3%, not bad.

Repair dishes and cooking aids, 10.7%. Out-of-home, 30% plus. Confectionery, 21%; and powdered and liquid beverages, which is a coffee business, 18.6%. So these growths have come because of kindling consumption, kindling demand, getting into RURBAN, supporting RURBAN, monies were put, investments were put, equity building was done. Cost efficiencies were got, and that's something that I'll come to a little bit later. All of this, of course, has been on the strength of e-commerce, which has grown by about 20% year-on-year continues to be a powerhouse. In some of the brands, it's as high as 25%, 30%. In some brands is as low as about 10%, 15%. But again, something that's been -- and quick commerce in this has been the fastest growth. 50% of our e-commerce business is today quick commerce and growing faster.

So Blinkit becoming as important as Amazon. That's the reality of the business.

Innovations contribute about 6% of sales. Over 125 new products launched, as I mentioned earlier. 10 new projects in the pipeline. Why you say, well why only 10? There are more than 10, but these are the ones that are scheduled for launch in the next couple of months.

Sustained profit for operations. We are a growth and profitability company. We are not just a growth company. You give us our valuations because we are a growth and profitability company. If you were just a growth company, you would give us the pies that we deserve. You give us that because of the sustained profitability. The CAGR on this has been about 9.4%. There's been a smart improvement in the last year from 19.7% to 21.4%. That's a reported number that you know, 170 basis points. What are the 4 key pillars that have been buying efficiencies and economies of scale, recipe efficiencies, looking at how we can optimize and how we can make changes without compromising on the food quality, nutritional content or safety, portfolio management and appropriate pricing.

Net profits grown by 10.4%. Again, there has been a steady performance here. I bring your attention to the consistency of the performance. There is not too much of up and down of a significant nature in this, and this is something that we would like to keep it this way. And that's what gives us the valuation that you give us, right? 2001, we were a $1 billion company in terms of market cap. 2023, as of 30th September, we were a $26 billion company. The return that we have given over the benchmark index, which has grown by 20x in the last 20 years has been 43.6x. And this or check the records puts us in the top 3 FMCGs in the country. So this is the result of all the efforts that have been put in.

What are some of the looming challenges that I would like to bring your attention to. Commodities, some parts of it are still a little bit worrying. If you look at the pace 2020, 2021 inflation put together was less than 2022. That is the kind of impact that we have faced in the recent 12 to 15 months. If you look at your milk prices between 2018 and 2023, 60% up, S&P 72%, edible oil 89% up, and the same numbers you're seeing across most of the categories, which are the ones of concern today. The ones of concern today are really green coffee. That's an area of concern because it still is not stabilized.

Packaging is stable, but it's up in the air in terms of the Middle East issue and what happens to oil, and it's an oil derivative any case. Wheat is so far stable. There's been a 7% escalation in the minimum support price that has been announced that will get factored in. But hopefully, that's something that the company can absorb. It's not something that will kill us. Everything else seems to be otherwise okay.

What have we learned from navigating the challenges. I think this is an ongoing lesson for the company. Number one is accelerated economies of scale and sharp procurable strategies because of scale, because of size, because of information access, we are able to do that. ShackSaving program, which is the cost-effective business program that has delivered anywhere between 1.5 -- 1% to 1.5% or roughly INR 1.5 billion to INR 2 billion of savings each year for the last 10 years. This is something that has been an ongoing program of the company. And the first thing we look at is efficiencies and effectiveness of buying and also cost efficiencies that we can build in. If both of these are not able to match the numbers looking at portfolio, then we look at pricing finally. So that's the one that we don't want to touch because penetration-led volume growth, remember, is a strategy. So we don't want to touch that because that can be

There are over 10,000 projects that have been done since 2011. This is the DNA of the company. I don't have to keep telling people that please look for cost efficiency parameters. They'll look for it themselves. They look for it for the last 12 years. and have generated 11,000 projects, small, some saving INR 100,000, some saving INR 10 million, some saving INR 20 million, INR 50 million. All put together, this is something that helps us in terms of enhanced efficiency and speed of -- and cost reduction.

Calibrated consumer insight based pricing, all the pricing decisions that have been taken have been pretested in terms of consumer validation, saying what is the kind of impact that it can have and what is the kind of mitigation that we have to do as a company. We have to take it. That's the reality, but how can we mitigate some of it. So a lot of the equity building work has been around that so that the brand equities are strong enough. And of course, alignment, courage and exceptional teamwork.

Please remember that except for me and Mr. Sanjay Khajuria, everybody else on the management committee has changed in the last 8 to 10 years. And I have some very young people on the management committee. They're not bruised, old leaders like me who have been hit on the chin many times. There are people who come on to these jobs as the first move into general management. For them to take big decisions on pricing takes a lot of courage because if they get wrong, it could be fatal in terms of their own perception of themselves as professionals. And I think that's what I pay tribute to because they have been able to do that consistently over a period of time.

So what are the 10 mantras that will define our future? What is it that I've been talking about all along and given you a flavor in terms of the 5 piece. Number one, consistent balance between growth and profitability. This is what we will do. This is what has made us successful. This is what will drive us over a period of time. Number two, expanding the opportunities with the new consumer cohort. This, for us, is exciting because this plays into the importance that Nestlé gives to portfolio development. They always say that the time and place for individual has to come in his life. I believe the time for Nestlé has come. This is the new India where consumers aspiration are high for good brands. Availability in access is something that we have to make happen and of course, creating the infrastructure for that.

Third, strong investments in manufacturing and supply chain. Between 2020 and 2023, the company has spent almost INR 2,600 crores in capital investments, INR 2,480 to be exact till end of September. So that balance will get spent during the course of this year, for sure. 2023 to 2025, we have committed INR 5,000 crores. Out of that INR 900 crores to INR 1,000 crores already in the Orissa factory has been committed and more to follow. This is a faith, and this is what we see as a track record. The faith of the parent in Nestlé India, to be able to have this investment along with the Board of Nestlé India, which has said that we need to put in this investment. So investments, we had manufacturing, investment behind distribution chains, investment behind logistics. All of these are part of this investment.

Investment in long-term partnerships. This company will still be the company that will put its head down, it shoulders to the wheel and work. We believe in delivering what we promise. Talking a little bit less, it's fine. But doing a reliable, consistent job, what I call boring consistency over a period of time rather than erratic brilliance at particular stages. I think that's what has defined the company, and that's what we would look at in the long term.

Expanding and accelerating RURBAN thrust, I've shown you in all granularity what we have done. So there's no fluff stuff there. There's nothing there, let's say, this is the intention. This is there on the ground, and this is what we see growing for us as we move forward. Embracing the power of analytics and digitization. I think we have invested in it. We are seeing the progress. We are seeing the results of it, and there is an acceleration of the journey as far as this is concerned.

Accelerating our sustainability journey, we are on that train, and we're not going to get off the train in a hurry. This is what makes us Nestlé, and we will continue that journey.

Focus on people, diversity, talent and managing the generational shift. As I speak to you, there are 2, 3 of our factories where the original pioneers are now in the phase of retirement, right? Factories like Mogo and Samalkha, to a certain extent, factories at -- I've got workers who are now retiring. They've all spent 30, 35 years in the company. So the next generation is coming in. And that is the transition that is refreshing. That is a challenge that we have as an organization.

In the leadership team, the transition has almost happened. Barring a few of us, the rest of us are all fresh and gearing to go and of a generation that is appropriate to take forward the journey of this company.

Nutrition as a platform for innovation. I think that's something that we have put on the table, and you've seen some of the results of that. And finally, enabling a strong impact on communities. That's something that is important to the company, and this is something that we will certainly be focusing on.

So what is our promise? Consistency, collaboration and commitment. That's really who we are as a company. That's really what will define us. I do hope that I've been able to in this 1.5 hour give you an idea of why we do, what we do and what is it that makes us stick. Thank you very much. May I take the opportunity of inviting my colleague, Jagdeep, to now come and take us -- take the audience through the R&D piece.

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Jagdeep Singh Marahar
executive

Thank you very much, Mr. Narayanan. It is a privilege for me to be here representing Nestlé R&D. To share with you the exciting world of what we bring in. And I think, I mean, there could not have been a better theme set than theme of growth and growing together consistently, but not only for today and R&D talks about tomorrow.

Innovation in Nestlé has been something that has been at the core ever since its inception. And whether it is with the cup of coffee you drink or a Kit Kat you break in, there is some sort of a part of science and technology that we all bring across to you.

The part of the presentation today for me, I will bring in the 2 aspects, the global context and the local part of how do we contribute to the businesses that we support. What I'll also look at is in terms of how we have been working on driving meaningful innovations across. However, we've been speeding up innovations to bring our products at speed to the market, but also our role in differentiating the product propositions across.

R&D has been the cornerstone of Nestlé across, and we run probably the largest R&D network across in the food and beverage space with approximately 2% of our global turnover, a bit over $2 billion that we spend globally in this particular part. There are 25 centers. It is a very diverse portfolio of products that we manage, which are done at the different parts of our centers globally. And I will cover this in a bit of detail.

I think what is unique for Nestle is the way we are structured. We have a 3-tier structure, which ranges from a very centralized part in terms of where we have scale of driving innovations. And that on the left, what you see are the core institutes, which give us the science behind food, behind the different parts linking to whether it is food safety or analytics, but moving all the way into the basic construct of the food and its role in health and nutrition.

Two important roles that we have also picked up recently is institutes on Packaging Sciences and on agricultural sciences, which work on a very important part on sustainability. How do we look at novel materials, how do we future-proof ourselves moving ahead into that. The second tier for us is very much related to converting this science into technologies. And technologies, as you would appreciate, are very much driven by individual categories. The categories that we operate in are very diverse. So there are 10 centers which are linked to individual categories across, and there is a eleventh one, which works on the systems. So systems means the coffee machines and the setups that we look at also in our Nestlé Professional space.

The third part, where we sit in are the regional centers, which look at implementing the global technologies are the competence centers of also the products or the ingredients that we build up. There are 6 of them across different regions of the world. What this brings us is very close to the local the local consumers that we then pick up and convert our products into the right areas.

We are located around 20 kilometers from here. So Nestlé R&D for South Asia region is located out of We are a fully-owned subsidiary of Nestlé SA with which we look at the different parts in terms of the priorities of what we work in and then support the regions. This is a center of expertise on South Asian cushing. This is where we have got a very diverse group of well-qualified experts ranging from shifts to product developers to engineers who look at converting the product propositions into industrializable products around that getting into scale once we move them to the relevant markets.

There are 3 core areas that we focus on. The first one is as a global category lead for noodles and spices. Why noodles and spices? Noodles, again, is one of the big businesses for Nestlé. We do around 0.5 million tonnes of noodles. The reason here is one of the core drivers there. Intel Inside, why Noodles work well, why we are able to deliver is what comes from the seasoning of the spices. And India being the core region where Nestlé sources almost half of its spices from, therefore, becomes key for us to develop expertise in this part that we can then roll out to all the markets that we work with.

The second important area, which is also one of the big challenges with food is to look at the food safety aspects. And this is about anticipating what the future challenges on contaminants or future challenges with adulterants and other areas can bring in. What we do here, we are a part of the Nestlé Global Food Safety hubs, there are 3 of them in our center in There is a hub in India, there's a hub in China. What we look at is, one, preempting any potential challenges; secondly, developing new rapid analytical methods that we can analyze and preempt and build these into the repertoire in terms of really putting barriers in before they become an issue.

We work very closely with the government agencies. We work with the academia here. And an example that I would want to share across is the work that we had done in terms of building capabilities on food safety. This is one area where we feel that there is a forward-looking need to reassess and reinforce the part there. And we recently with we had around 500 graduates who went through the screening process and 25 of them pass through the all-India food safety carder across to get in, not only in Nestlé, but also to other industries and government bodies around with a proper knowledge on what food safety brings in.

The third part for us is about accelerating innovation. And this is something which we have started a couple of years back is to build competencies and expertise to fast track innovation processes, looking at new white spaces. We call it as Nestlé accelerator, where we review what potential opportunities, what consumer trends, I think what we heard earlier was about how the consumer behaviors are shifting. What are those new spaces that could be relevant that we could see and then bring this in. All of this is done by a group of experts where more than half of our team, and this is a very young team are either Masters or PhD holders and they are PhDs in the fields, which are as diverse as analytical sciences to noodles.

On our global part, the R&D fuels what the global purpose of the company is in terms of really making products which are high on nutrition, which are good for you and also which are sustainable for people and pets that we serve in. The fundamentals, what you see on the top are common. And they are uncommon across the different streams of the organization. These are about delivering tasty, nutritious products, which are of high quality and safe but also affordable and can be produced in a way which is sustainable across. And I'll cover this in a little bit more detail moving forward.

There are 4 core focus areas that we have identified at the global level, which are common themes to drive growth. The first one is on alternate grains and proteins. And I think, I mean, you saw some examples, and I'll elaborate a little bit more on the work that we are doing with millets and other parts there. The second area is about coffee. And how do we process coffee, how do we select the beans. I think what you heard from Mr. Narayanan before is the work that we do with the farmers, with the NESCAFÉ plan. How do we translate this with cutting-edge technologies to translate them into products which are winning propositions, but also how do we leverage systems like the Espresso NESCAFÉ machines that can be much more efficient there.

The other area for us is on nutrition, and this is covering the whole scope of early life, moving across the ages into medical nutrition, but also covering what is a little bit of a changing demographics with aging population space, what are the needs that we build in there. And finally, the science there is nutrition for pets, which is equally important for our global portfolio.

How do we do this? It's a complicated slide, but these are our global platforms. There are 12 platforms. And just to simplify this, I think the first platform is by driving products, which are nutritious and which are healthy. We look at platforms like alternate proteins there, but also working on the reduction of ingredients like salt, sugar and fat. And these are the spaces where across the centers, all of us play a role.

There is a centralized team which supports, but then out of the different product categories, we build this in. What we also work on and then this is a little bit more central here is on the areas like cellular nutrition, microbiomes on how food is ingested in the body. What is it that we can look at, but also on to what is the role that food plays in addressing different diseases. And this is -- I mean the complex word you will read here, multiomics is the profiling of what -- how we can bring in and then translate it into personalized nutrition.

Coffee and beverage systems, we have spoken about. I think on the right side, it's an important pillar, which is a pillar on developing technologies, on packaging, on technologies, which are much more energy efficient, but also technologies which are looking at the entire agriculture value chain of the products, I mean right from plant breeding to the part on how they have grown and how can we mitigate the challenges on GHG emissions, whether it is with crops or with the dairy part. Our approach to innovation. And I think this is an approach which we have been driving for the last 4 to 5 years is about making the process much more agile and nimble so that we are future ready. And this is based on 3 pillars. The first one is about simplification of the processes where we have cut our idea to launch process from around 6 steps to 3 steps, which makes it much more nimble and faster and I'll share some of the results which come in. We have put in R&D accelerators that I briefly covered before, which helped to fast track some of these ideas, getting it into a proposition of a minimum viable product in 6 to 9 months sort of a time, but also equipping ourselves with pilot equipment so that we can rapidly prototype. We can get the concepts in because unless you put it on the table, it doesn't really mean much.

We have been working externally with the partnerships. You read on an in institute of Millet research, where we have done our first launch. So I think these are the institutes, which are also helping us to synergize. Not only in terms of developing products, but also in building up the future maps, of where we would want to work towards in terms of really identifying and defining new varieties or new processing methods that can give us a competitive advantage moving forward.

The second part of driving innovation is really leveraging our internal and the external ecosystem. And the first one for us here has been with the employees where you have all heard about the Shark Tank. I think this is almost like an internal Shark Tank that we run. Examples on Millet what you saw as products, some of them have been launched within 9 months. I think when the whole proposition came in, our teams came up with more than 25 ideas within a month's time, and we could put it on table and we could see which propositions make sense and in which geographies can we deploy and work this in.

We work closely with the startups. We have globally more than 60 start-ups that are part of our R&D accelerator. We have completed cohorts with 4 of them. The picture you see is one of the start-ups, which is now working with us here on maternal nutrition within our R&D center. We leverage AI, and I'll share this in a little bit more detail in the next slide, which helps us to be nimble and then really cut down the time for concept generation, especially in the new spaces across.

And one big shift that we have also moved in is about differentiating our propositions through intellectual property protection. And this is where the patenting part has seen quite a significant increase. I think -- the job of a product developer today is quite complex. We need a product which tastes well. We need it at the right cost. We need something which is nutritious. We need what is also sustainable. And this is where the data mining and the artificial intelligence comes in to help us out. And then this is something that we have pioneered in terms of not only looking at the clinical studies, but also looking at the consumer trends. How do we translate these? How do we pick up certain trends, get them into AI-driven concept development, recipe formalization, but also in some cases where we work with the grains and plants, the feed in into the plant breeding side. What is it that we can shift.

Within the R&D space, we don't restrict ourselves only to product development. I think the bottom theme is more about applications of AI into our operations. How do we use it for early identification, not only of potential issues, whether it is food safety or it is about certain parts on the equipment performance. How can we have a better surveillance on our materials that we received, but more so about advanced process control, and I will pick up an example of what we have used locally here where we have deployed technologies on our noodle lines there. What this also helps us is on assessing the health of the machines when can we predict either a breakdown or how can we do preventive maintenance much better, so which makes our lines much more efficient, but also much more sustainable across.

So just as a scorecard, what it has meant and then this is at a global level. Our speed of innovation has increased significantly with all these steps. So if a normal project in 2016, used to take around 33 months from the time of concept generation to industrialization, the average today is around 12 months. And when I say 12 months, some of the parts, we do implement within 6 to 9 months, I think we are faster than start-ups, some of the start-ups in this particular part. Some others, where there are new -- there is new science and new technologies at mode. Obviously, it takes a little bit longer and 12 months is a broad average across.

On the theme of innovation, what this has also meant is that number of innovations driven by R&D have moved up. I think you saw the increased innovation focus here in the region. This is also where we step in and we support across different categories to drive innovations there. The global increase in the total launches has been 23%.

And from our side, there has been almost a 3x increase innovations that we are bringing into the region.

The second part for us is about increasing the differentiation, as I mentioned before, it is the quality of our projects that bring in. So we have now 10% more contribution that is coming in from the innovation projects in. So just as a broad nutshell, around 30% of incremental contribution to Nestle's portfolio, which is coming in through innovation and renovation is there, and around 20% of this would be about differentiated product propositions that bring in and create new consumption occasions.

The patent -- the number of patents, we filed more than 500 patents annually globally, and this has been around a 90% jump in terms of new innovative technologies and the solutions that we have brought into the table.

Just a quick snapshot of recent launches. And I think these are all the global ones were more than 150 new products coming into the market every year. What you see on the right is an example of where R&D has helped in to deliver a winning proposition, whether it is about better aroma in coffee or a better taste profile in a noodle or noodles with millets or even products like in the a Masala millets. So this is where we step in and we play a role of driving innovations through.

And just picking up on to 1 of the examples here, what Mr. Narayanan spoke before, is leveraging millets across our products. And millets, as you would know, are not the easiest of the grains to be consumed or even to be processed. There are challenges with taste. There are challenges because there are 13 types of millets and each mile is different in size, in hardness in the way that we process these in. And they have in their inherent form, very low shelf life. which keeps the consumers away. I mean they're not very convenient to use and we had to really translate these with the know-how both from our global teams and the local teams here with partners like IMR but also using our culinary expertise around to convert them into tasty nutritious propositions.

Very happy to say that I think, I mean, this is not only an offer that has come in, in form of masala millets. I think this is the first time in the country probably where we have managed to transform bajra or Pearl Millet, which is 1 of the most difficult millets to stabilize into this product. And when this product contains more 75% of grains, it is rich in fiber and therefore, offers a much more meaningful advantage to our products.

I think this one is the platform that has then also been moved to spaces like noodles but also our other brands, and there are a few more which will come in.

Last but not the least, I think R&D is not only about driving new product launches and innovations. It is more about making sure that we also have propositions which are affordable and sustainable. And here, some of the areas that we work in on the packaging side is on the new generation of papers. And I think an example, what I will take here is the paper straws. More than 5 billion, 5 billion paper straws globally have been mean introduced in place of the plastic straws, and Nestlé was a pioneer in taking these steps.

We work on quite a few other areas which we keep on testing across our brands, it's a sensitive part because a lot of application is also determined by what the local environment and the climate conditions are. But this is an area that we put quite a bit of research efforts on.

The second part is evaluating the biodegradable plastics, how can we move in there? And one of the first launches here, which has been locally developed, there's about a biodegradable fork, a plastic fork, which has already been introduced in our Cuppa Noodles and which decomposes or degrades both in industrial composting but I think also in the home compostable setup there.

What we have been also taking this journey is a step forward on regenerative agriculture. There is a pilot that we picked up in terms of restoring barren land. It's a future challenge that the country is facing with approximately 30% of the soils under stress today because of the way we have had the cultivation done. And the pilot that we have picked up is to restore land in our spice plan region to see how can we bring the fertility back on the land.

So this is the land in Andhra Pradesh and in Sri Sathyasai District, which we are now looking at converting. It was barren for approximately 5 years. There are 15 farmers involved around 32 acres, which now has been planted, I think, I mean what you see on the right is the first plantation, and we intend to use this crop back into our products just as a model to see how can we make meaningful difference across and then will expand it not only in India, but also beyond India as an example.

We are collaborating on this not only with the Nestle global teams on the Agricultural Sciences part but also with Rainforest Alliance and TraceX, which is one of the start-ups that also came in, in one of our R&D cohorts, which is helping us to map the entire -- the land scenario that we are betting in. The second important role that we play is on manufacturing process optimization. And I think, I mean, this is an important area because this is also where energy and affordability comes in. And 2 or 3 examples which I would want to bring in is on energy reduction through a proper redesign of the technologies and equipment with the computational fluid dynamics.

We have been able to now reduce the steam usage in our noodle process by around 30%. Now there's not only sales around 30,000 tonnes of -- I mean, the CO2 emissions, but it also helps to avoid the costs which were going in as waste.

And similarly, using process analytical technologies into our processes, now we have closed the loop systems. And these are working on our KITKAT lines where we are able to control the entire critical parameters on moisture and wafers, but we have moved it now to noodles where all the key parameters get controlled in line, giving a much more consistent product, but with much lower waste.

Again, we spoke about a little bit how Odisha would be the factory of future. So we, as R&D constantly work on what are the new technologies? What would shape this future manufacturing line? What would be the new capabilities, the level of automation that we would bring in? And therefore, make a tangible difference to what we are looking at building moving forward.

So there have been quite a few recognitions. I think on the packaging work that our team did, we were recognized with Asia and the WorldStar Awards and just a couple of weeks back on the sustainability part, both in terms of restoring the agricultural land, but also on energy reduction, we had the UBS Sustainability Awards for the initiatives of the year.

So just in nutshell key takeaways. So it's again -- I mean, the global R&D network offers a strong competitive advantage to drive growth, to support growth across markets. And I think as you heard with India being one of the core -- I mean, core growth pillars, we really see this as a big opportunity to unlock future opportunities.

The focus of R&D is on driving not only new products but also on the more nutritious, healthy products, which will be needed for the future consumer requirements with the changing demographics and also from a perspective of innovative technologies and solutions, which make it much more sustainable.

Increasing speed to market for us through differentiated intellectual property, differentiated technologies is going to be the core which will give us the winning edge as we move forward. And I think, I mean, this is where the speed over perfection mindset has moved in and enabled us to really pursue this in. And last but not the least, I mean, with this strong involvement and support to the local businesses here, we are able to deliver the ambition to drive growth moving forward. Thank you.

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

Thank you, Mr. Marahar. With that, we move to the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] In the interest of time, I would like to request all of you to limit your questions to 2 per person. We will start with participants present here, take 3 questions from 3 people and then move on virtually and come back again. Sir could you introduce yourself and mention the name of your organization, ask your question.

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Abneesh Roy
analyst

Yes. Thanks, for [indiscernible] presentation. Two questions. My first question is, we have seen a few categories of other companies. For example, biscuits, we have seen in tea local players have come. In your category, say, in noodles and coffee, we have seen some regional players, some start-up companies also come.

So in terms of volume growth, you have lost some share in these in the last few quarters? I'm not talking about the Nielsen market share I'm talking about the data which you get from the ground, is there any loss in terms of volume versus the industry growth, which you must be getting? Because we are seeing that downgrading, down trading those are happening.

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Thank you, Abneesh. Thank you for your question. I think, look, we do have a local competition. Let me take coffee, for example, there have been players who have come in. But one of the things in coffee is that when the prices of coffee beans are as high as they are, it doesn't really give much play for the local player to come in with a cut price and hope to make a bigger deal. Because the fact is, is that you will be incurring serious losses if you were to do that.

So in the coffee category, honestly, there has not been -- there has been some competitors that have come in, but they have been more muted during this serious price increase on coffee beans that have taken place.

In the area of the Maggi portfolio, there have been some entrants as far as the Masala Magic type of products are concerned. I must say that, again, there has not been too much of a -- in our own estimates, there has not been too much of traction that they have got. Only where there is acute price competition, there has been some loss of volume. But this is a category which is fairly sensitive in terms of quality -- quality and safety. So consumers also are pretty careful not to just try any masala simply because it is there in the market.

In Noodles, when we took up the small pack prices, there were a few people who entered the market. And the fringe in particular geographies, there was some impact, but I think once we did a specific [indiscernible] package and part of it was to really tailor the portfolio also in terms of the INR 10 price point, we are seeing volumes to come back.

So yes, there is local competition, but I think we are at least, as of now, trying to respond fast enough to mitigate any losses that we might have.

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Abneesh Roy
analyst

My second and last question likely related is you shared a lot of data points, 10 billion UPI transactions. You also shared your Patna visit. My question is 5 years back and now, say, 8 years back when you were joined Nestle India and now, is the INR 2, INR 5, INR 10 issue for the FMCG, is that now well under control? But when I see your own Maggi price increased from INR 5 to INR7 and then I think INR 10, et cetera, there has been a big grammage impact.

And you mentioned that last 9 months, volume growth for the company has been below initial expectation or below the 3-year average. When I see that, then UPI doesn't seem to be benefiting. So where are we in terms of the coinage issue? And why is the UPI thing not benefiting in terms of vacating popular price points? .

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, I think it's fair to say that still cash is a predominant part of the transaction. So while UPI is definitely making progress, but it is not completely obliterated -- obliterated the medium of exchange as far as the retail trade is concerned. I think the issue is -- one of the things I think you have to remember, Abneesh, price point is still important.

If you look at the Nestle portfolio, almost 1/3 of Nestle portfolio is price point. And about 15, 20-odd percent is premium and the rest of it is mainstream.

On the price point, I still have to be careful. I have to make trade-offs. I have to make tradeoffs saying, okay, I have -- I'm not able to mitigate the current initiatives to be able to take care of inflation in particular categories. And therefore, I consciously take the step to take -- change the prices. but price point will continue to be important because 2 forces are happening, Abneesh, in this market. Premiumization and down trading.

Down trading is also a phenomenon. And I think some of the other companies that you cover are seeing that also significantly happening because there is an economic pressure in terms of budgets and discretionary budgets, definitely if inflationary trends continue, will be under pressure. So we are conscious of it. And therefore, we are trying to put in bridging price pack to be able to take care of it.

But walking away from the INR 2, INR 5, I think or maybe INR 2 you still could, but a INR 5, INR 10 price point is still a little bit fraught with risk or trade-offs that you might have to make.

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Harit Kapoor
analyst

Good evening. This is Harit from Investec. Just 2 questions. First was on the input cost chart that you showed. it seems like with green coffee and now cocoa over the last few weeks, we're also hearing there is a significant inflation

So if you look at your pricing actions and your pricing actions have been fairly significant over the last year or so, do you feel you're at the end of those pricing actions now at a portfolio level? Or you still feel there are certain areas where you will have to take significant pricing to still mitigate some of the margin pressure? This in context of the fact that the last 2 quarters, actually gross margins have stepped up at a portfolio level.

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Good question, Harit. I think, look, as I said, the pricing option is the last option as far as the company is concerned because the core strategy is penetration-led volume growth.

So I would hope unless there is something that goes dramatically wrong as far as coffee prices are concerned, that I will be towards the end of the price cycle. I don't anticipate, but the -- there has been obviously impact in Vietnam, and that is leading to a synchronous enhancement of prices in India, even though the coffee exports have come down, but nevertheless, the coffee bean prices are very much on the uptick. If it continues at the current level without dramatic changes coming up in the next couple of months, I think I should be able to hold the line as far as the prices are concerned.

On cocoa, I think, yes, there has been a a secular trend upwards. But I would like to keep to the current strategy of keeping prices as much as possible. But again, it is a wish, Harit, at the moment. It's very difficult to predict. But hopefully, I should be able to try and at least the intention of the company is to avoid as much as possible. That much I can tell you.

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Harit Kapoor
analyst

Great. And the second question was on innovation. So if you look at the last 3 years, you had 2 years of COVID. And then you had a last few quarters of significant inflation. You yourself mentioned when the house is on fire, you're not going to do new things. . In the context that in the next 1 or 2 quarters, hopefully, things you normalize on the inflation side. You did mention 10 projects in the pipeline, but do you see a material step-up in terms of new things that you're going to do over the next 12 to 18 months. versus the last 3 years that you've seen from a portfolio perspective?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Relatively speaking, Harit, there will be a step up. I mean, because let me be very honest with you, and I've shared this with you as well. During the COVID times was now the time to keep the house without catching fire. And at that time to launch new innovations where there was no market place and there was nothing happening. would have been a little bit foolish at that stage.

So we did mute our innovation cycle. Now that is being unleashed. And yes, in a calibrated manner, I mean, the trend projects that I'm talking about are the most powerful that we would like to put out into the market.

But I think innovation itself needs to be now calibrated because we have moved it to an era where we are supporting our brands fairly strongly in terms of building equity. So there will be that much that I will be able to absorb in terms of being able to launch.

Also the gastric capacity of the organization. Remember, I'm going in for a major [indiscernible] drive. I can't tell my sales followers launch this and 5 more of this and 5 more of this. They'll say boss you tell me [Foreign Language] I mean . As an old salesman, I can tell you that the prioritization is a big task. So that's the other thing I have to calibrate, the gastric capacity of the company to absorb that much more of innovations. But you will see an uptick for sure. .

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

We'll now move to Manoj for his next question. I will come back to you.

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Manoj Menon
analyst

Hello . This is Manoj Menon from ICICI Securities. That's for the record.. Suresh, brilliant work on the driving growth through the sales vector, which I think very few companies have actually executed on the ground in the last 5 or 10 years.

Of the 7% volume growth, which has come, would you be able to quantify what sort of growth which came through the sales vector? That's one. . Second, given the -- that you are somewhere 80%, 90% of the numeric footprint where you want to be at this point in time. How much more headroom is there with the 3, 4 medium-term?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Good question, Manoj. I mean, if I were to look at it, I think the sales vector has played a strong role in the growth that we have got. I would estimate that all of the 7-odd percent that we have got at least 3% would be attributable to the sale vector.

And really, sales vector plus digitization plus analytics sharper focusing on geographies, at least 3%. Maybe our upper reach, maybe 3.5%, 4% would come from that. That's an area of thrust, Manoj, that will continue. I mean I I'm not in a hurry -- I'm not in a hurry to come here and tell you guys that I have digitized my whole company and forgotten the basics. I mean that's something that will at least under my watch will not happen because that's what we built the company.

Your second question was on?

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Manoj Menon
analyst

Basically [indiscernible] for the disclosure. Can we expect a similar run rate or higher, lower because you'll have now lines selling and productivity improvements and more digitization, et cetera? Is it fair to assume that you'll actually get a similar growth rate also into the medium term?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

I would probably not get as high as what we have got in the past, but definitely fairly significant as the buildup happens. Because as you know, the distribution reach that we are looking at now is kind of getting there in terms of number of villages, over 2,000, a number of distribution points, et cetera.

Now it's a question of sweating assets even more. And in sweating, I think in certain categories, it will give us risk-proportionate growth. In some categories, it will be marginal. On balance, I think best case scenario would be as strong. The worst case scenario would be slightly lower but still significant.

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Manoj Menon
analyst

Let me -- I have 1 question, but I just kind of -- let's say, Part A and Part B. I don't think you'll get another chance. Suresh some comments about PetCare would be helpful. How are you thinking about ramping up that with a medium-term view? And the other one, unrelated, is it fair to say that the Nestle of 2023 looks like M&A as a growth vector? Let's say, very different versus what it was 10 or 20 years back.

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Good question, Manoj. I mean let me put the M&A question to rest first. I think M&A continues to be an area of interest for the company because, as you know, whatever we are hitting INR 16,000 crores, INR 17,000 crores that we did last year and a higher number this year is 100% organic growth. There's nothing inorganic in what we have done.

So I think the quest for acquisitions continues. But obviously, I think the criteria that we use is on fit, is on capability to add value and also on the kind of valuations that we get. And so the eyes and ears are open. And I think that's something that we will we will continue and hopefully, God-willing something should come up sometime in the future.

On PetCare, I think the integration process with Nestle India is complete. And now we are trying to -- we are really revving up the engines in terms of expanding the scope of distribution and also utilizing some of the -- Manoj, some of the obvious synergies that we have as a company. I mean I'm able to give PetCare a much wider access in what they ever hire as an independent entity.

And that's work-in-progress. So it's still a very promising category for us. In fact, some of the early reads on the cat food segment is very positive. And that gives us room and gives us hope that we will be able to accelerate this business quite well in the coming years.

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

We will now move virtually and I request the participants to ask questions [indiscernible] take questions from participants present there.

Thank you very much.

We invite our speaker member, Mr. Siddhant Dand from Goodwill.

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Siddhant Dand
analyst

Can you hear me? .

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

Yes, sir. .

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Siddhant Dand
analyst

So [indiscernible] PetCare business into Nestle India? How long the business with Nestle hasn't entered in India is the -- Nespresso business? So any thoughts about entering via Nestle India? Because every time we travel abroad, people will always ask me to get a Nespresso machine or parts back to India.

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

I know, I know. I know the discomfort that you feel when you have to pay a little bit more than what you should be paying. But look, let me put it fair and square. Nespresso is definitely a business that is of interest to us. I think there are a few regulatory and duty-related issues on that need to be -- that needs to be navigated and represented, which is what we are in the process of. I think once we are able to clear the deck on that, then the decision will be taken on a direct involvement of Nestle India in the business or otherwise, if there is at all any other route that can be taken.

But at the moment, I think we are trying to first get over the first leg, which is really some of the regulatory and duty-related issues that pertain to the import of pods into the capsules into the country. Once we do that, I think the road will be much clearer as far as our entry into the business is concerned.

PetCare, as I just mentioned to the question of Manoj, I think, continues to be an area of serious interest. One thing about Nestle that I'm sure you have observed, we don't give up on categories so easily. So there is a PetCare, which is obviously a core category of the company. It's a category where we have global expertise and it is a category where we will have the full play in the coming months and years as far as the category itself is concerned. So I can assure you that there will be a continuing thrust as far as building this business is concerned, in the first stage using the synergies that Nestle India brings to the table. That alone will be quite significant for the business.

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

Thank you. Our next question is from Shirish Pardeshi from Centrum.

There seems to be no response from this participant's connection. We will therefore move to our next question. That's from Chintan Chheda of Quest Investments. There seems to be no response from this connection as well. We take our next question from Dhiraj Mistry from Antique Stock Broking.

As there's no response, [indiscernible], back to you, you may take questions present from in-person participants.

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Vivek Maheshwari
analyst

Suresh and Team. Suresh, while under your regime, we have seen a definitive pickup in growth. But philosophically speaking, when you talk about, let's say, $40 billion of market on a denominator of $800 billion. Do you not think -- and 2 parts to this question. The first part is, do you not see a sense when you look at 6.5% volume growth number, and I know inflation pandemic, but if you take the next 5, 10 years, we shouldn't , let's say, for a company like Nestle, growth should be significantly higher than where we are? That's first part.

And second part, again, it's an apple to mango comparison, but let's say, PepsiCo launched STING as a product. And within 3 years, that brand became INR 1,000 crores, is running over INR 2,000 crores. Is there a case to launch something which is very disruptive, so let's say, Red Bull was selling at INR [indiscernible] and STING came at about INR 20, mix is margin accretive to the company, but has taken the size to a different level. What are your thoughts on both these aspects?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

I think it's a good question that you're asking. As far as growth is concerned, as I said, the company's philosophy has been and is unlikely to change between the balance between growth and profitability. So that's something that we cannot walk away from.

So, while, yes, I think in the future, I would like us to grow faster than 7%. I mean it is not an impossibility, but launching products or getting into categories which are going to be deeply dilutive as far as margin deliveries even in the short to medium term, is concerned, without a distinct competitive advantage, would not really be a reality as far as Nestle is concerned. I think the empty-calorie growth, which some organizations might find acceptable at relatively modest EBIT is not a philosophy that we believe in.

Having said that, I think I fully take your point. And in fact, that's also the road map in building all the infrastructure and creating all the ecosystems for growth is to really plan and target a higher growth than what we have done in the past. But on which categories and which -- I mean, for example, things like nutrition, wider definition of nutrition or health science would be areas where we will focus in where the volume may be relatively small, but the values and the impacts and the competitive moats that it builds will be definitely far more significant for the company.

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Vivek Maheshwari
analyst

Got it. And the second question, again, one of the slides on lifestyle trends for millennials and Gen Z. if I look at 1 of the -- I would just love to know your views? But one of the things that you mentioned, trust is important, and it's 59% important for Gen Z.

If I look at the other side, which means that 41% of the users are okay to go for brands, which are, so to speak, not trustworthy. Does that not worry you? Because 9 percentage points, I mean, it's literally half and half and then you are 9 percentage points higher on the trust side. But that also means that 41% should -- can go for anything that is available. Does that worry you from a competition standpoint?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, I think the word trust has 2 meanings here in the research. One trust is the ability and the proclivity to stick to a brand for all times to come. And the other one is a little bit experimental or [indiscernible] as far as the brand is concerned. It captures both these trends.

And one of the things I think we have to be very clear is that no company has owed market share. No company is entitled to market share. you have to sweat and struggle for every point of market share.

So I look at it, yes, in a [indiscernible] way, it should worry me a bit saying that 41% of people might leave my brand. But then it should keep me awake saying have I got the right consumer proposition, the compelling experience and the value delivery sustainably over a period of time. to justify the market shares that I've got.

So I don't subscribe to the negative part of it, it only tells me that the consumer, you can't take the consumer for granted. And that's when -- and that's -- that you would know, even without looking at the research is a hard reality of the marketplace. [Foreign Language] right? or vice-versa.

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Vivek Maheshwari
analyst

I am Vivek Maheshwari from Jefferies.

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

I know Vivek, Vivek is an old friend.

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Vivek Maheshwari
analyst

Sir, just to add one question. This is Ajay from [indiscernible] Securities. I had just one question. In one of the -- your speech you had mentioned about premium products only contributing roughly about 10% to 15% of your sales. I would have assumed that it is much higher for Nestle India. Can you just talk what is your categorization of premium products? First. And secondly, also, if you can just throw some light on how you are looking at premiumizing our portfolio to a greater extend?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, I think premium for us is quite a rigorous definition because we've got a significant mainstream and mainstream in many companies would be categorized as premium. Whereas for us, it is mainstream. So a price index of 10%, 20% below the mainstream would be considered to be PPP and price about 30%, 40% higher than mainstream, what we consider to be a premium. . Again, the premium split defers by category. In categories like Milk and Nutrition, it is higher in categories like Foods, prepared dishes it is higher. In chocolate, it is -- and for example, KITKAT in the normal parlance will be considered a premium, but we categorize it as mainstream.

So therefore, the proportion is a little bit lower because of the categorization. But I can only tell you that I think the thrust on premiumization continues to be strong. The response has been strong. The growth rate of premium products in the company is at least 2x to 2.5x of the rest of the organization. So there is a very strong growth that we are seeing.

And this is happening also in small town India. So the growth that I'm seeing for brands like KITKAT and some of the Nielsen Nutrition is as strong in smaller markets, you saw the growth, 15%, 21%, 26% and 40%. This is in new India.

So I think the thrust is higher. The infrastructure will be -- is stronger. the route to market is going to be critical for us. So I can't take the same route to market and expect all my products to go through the same magic. So that's where work is happening today using the part of analytics, digital and on-ground behavior to carve out separate distribution models for premium.

Can I do that in small town India is one of the questions we are asking, I don't have the answer, but it's an active question that we are asking.

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Sheela Rathi
analyst

Hello, Mr. Narayanan. 3, 4 questions here, short term as well as long term. On the short-term side, my first question is that what percentage of our portfolio did we take price initiatives last year?

And what percentage of them we may not require to roll back the prices? Because most of the consumer companies are cutting prices right now. But if you could give some idea there and which categories in specific?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, as far as the portfolio is concerned, at least, at least half the portfolio was touched in some form or the other in terms of pricing. . As far as rolling back is concerned, I mean, we have not seen a very significant decrease in prices of -- the pace of increase has come down. but that doesn't mean that it's a decrease. I mean, milk prices are up, but the pace of increase of milk prices has come down.

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Sheela Rathi
analyst

Sorry, if I may interrupt. My question was specific to price hikes that we took.

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Yes. That's what I'm saying. For prices that we took, about half the portfolio has been impacted by price changes. Rolling back prices, I don't see that as an imminent issue that is happening at the moment because, again, while the inflation has come down, right? But the prices of these commodities are already at a fairly high level. So it is -- the differences are purely marginal to be talking about any distinct rollback that we see.

Unlike some of the petro-based ingredients where the decline has been quite sharp. There, obviously, people have had to do it and the emergence of local competition has happened because of that also. Because the raw material prices have come down significantly, giving the play for local competition to enter. So that's where we are.

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Sheela Rathi
analyst

Second question is, you had a slide where you showed that media investments for us have gone up from 1x to 1.3x. If I do a rough math, the ad spends for us are circa 4% right now or maybe lower versus say pre-pandemic, we were at 6%. So what are we doing here differently? Most of the consumer companies, again, have been taking up ad spend, are we risking market share here by being more -- using our brand equity to? So just a question on

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Not really. We're not risking any brand equity. We are just spending more efficiently and more effectively. And the digital spend, which gives you much longer kind of response with the consumers is today a fairly significant part of what we are spending.

So therefore, the percentage looks to you a little bit lower. But the digital spend as a proportion of spends have been significantly up as compared to what they were a couple of years back.

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Sheela Rathi
analyst

What would be the share of digital spend perhaps? As a percentage of total .

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

It depends on brand to brand. It will be anywhere between 20% to 60%, 70%. .

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Sheela Rathi
analyst

Understood. More on the long-term side now. First question is we are building such huge capacities and it's a big journey we have embarked on.

So I'm going to ask the same question that should we think of higher growth trajectory for us going ahead? Because I believe that this capacity is being built for the next 10, 15 years. So should we imagine Nestle India growth trajectory to be much, much higher than where we are right now in any categories where you're most excited about?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

I don't think Sheela, it would be the definition of much, much for you is different from the much, much for me. So it's -- we have to be very careful on this. But yes, I think the fact is that the capacities in supply chain and infrastructure is being created to enable higher growth. And the ambition as Vivek was alluding to, is to get a volume growth, which is definitely comparable, if not better than what we have got in the past. So that intention continues to remain.

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Sheela Rathi
analyst

And final bit is with respect to the distribution reach, we are at 5.2 million distribution reach. Where do we see the portfolio gaps right now? I would believe that noodles -- Maggie Noodles would be at the peak, say -- I mean, the highest. So what's the opportunity for us in terms of categories where we need to take it up much more than the others?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, I think all categories are offering opportunities because our distribution is not just a onetime act. It also depends on the kind of repeat purchase and the kind of activation that is being done. So all the current categories of the company Milk and Nutrition, prepared dishes, coffee and also chocolate and confectionary. Each of them are calibrated differently. So the number of Maggie Noodle outlets will not necessarily be equal to the number of coffee outlets, for example, because of the nature of the category.

But there is headroom across for all the brands. And that's why you're seeing that growth, that 21% -- 21% to 25% growth is not coming out of 1 brand. It's coming out of our bouquet of brands. And that as we expand, as we penetrate better, as we do better activation as we do better distribution, as we do better advertising and put more feet on the ground, we are seeing better results come.

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

The next question is from Percy who's joined us virtually. His question is, June quarter gross margin is 200 bps higher than the June quarter gross margin. That is big expansion in a quarter period of 3 months. What has driven this? Is it raw material softening? If so, which ones? Product price increase? And if so, which ones or any other reason?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Well, it's a combination. It's a combination of raw material softening and better realization both.

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Arnab Mitra
analyst

Suresh. It is Arnab from Goldman. So Suresh, on the innovation side, in the last few years, you showcased a few new categories you entered or brands you launched like Seraga, Milo, Nes Plus, GERBER.

Given the size of your portfolio, you have totally INR 20,000 crores kind of turnover this year, any of these meet the bar of moving the needle for the overall business? Like could they cross 1%, 2% of sales in a few years' time? Or is this a very slow burn? And it will take them many years to even reach a 1% of turnover or any of these new initiatives?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, I think it's a very good question. I think some of them clearly are showing stronger promise than others. So some of the initiatives that we got like what we are doing in the noodles area will definitely start getting much higher traction. Some of the initiatives in the chocolate area will also start getting higher traction. Coffee will be giving higher traction, but some of the ones in the nutrition space will take some time. It's not going to -- You're not going to have the dial moving suddenly. I think the days of seeking out another Maggie Noodles has slightly become a little bit of a mirage product for many companies.

You don't.- you've got smaller number of strong opportunities but not 1 huge mega opportunity that's going to give you that kind of, unless you have got the stomach to continue in that race for 10, 15 years without making an [indiscernible] and that's a very different philosophy.

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Arnab Mitra
analyst

Got it. So the 6.5% of revenues that you showed came from all the innovations in the last 3 to 5 years. that number, you would not expect to dramatically move up, given what you said that these are smaller opportunities

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, my objective -- long-term objective is to get to about 10%. If I get over 10%, that will be a good number to look at in terms of innovation contribution to total sales. And that will come from a combination of some base innovations in the core categories. and some high-value innovations in some of the niche categories. That put together should get us there. But are you -- if I were to answer you saying today, it's a 6.5% will next year be 10%? Teh answer is now. It will take a bit of time.

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Arnab Mitra
analyst

My last question is just on margin improvement is not a, I would say, a stated target or objective that I've heard from you over the years. It's more about stable margins, higher growth.

Now since you've been on this growth path for a few years, there's typically some virtuous cycle, you get operating leverage, your mix improves. So can things change on that front? That -- or would you still believe that keeping margins stable, focusing on growth is that broad approach that you will take?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

I think the broad approach, as I said, growth with sustained profitability does not dramatically change. The objective might change in a particular part of the portfolio, given the nature of the cost benefit that we see.

But broadly as a company. I mean, if you were to say, if today, I make what EBIT margins are 23%, 24% and suddenly, you look at a growth model that will be 30% growth and 15% EBIT. That will not be Nestle.

But within that category, I could look at parts of the portfolio, making that switch sacrifice for the short- to medium-term. That can happen. But overall, as a strategy for the company have been difficult for me to comprehend.

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

We'll take the last question from Latika.

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Latika Chopra
analyst

My questions have been answered, but one aspect I just wanted to clarify was on some color on when is the agreement for royalty up for review. If you could clarify on that?

And how should we think if you are allowed to talk about it, the parents want to approach that?

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, I think it's a good question, Latika, I knew that somewhere it will come up. Look, at the moment, I think we are still in -- it's still in front of the Board of Nestle India in terms of discussing this, are -- preparing the because it's still -- it's tenable until June next year, in June 2024.

So there's still a bit of time. But I think we are very conscious of the fact that brands, technology and operational excellence are what Nestle brings to the table. And I think all of these 3 would be evaluated fairly and squarely before any decision is taken. But to clarify to you, Latika, as of now, no decision has been taken.

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Unknown Attendee

We can go for one more question.

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Avi Mehta
analyst

Avi Mehta from Macquarie. I just wanted to kind of -- in the entire conversation, you started with saying that there are increasingly going to be more niche opportunities that are going to come in. But in the course of the discussion on innovation, you seem to suggest that I have a constraint on my distribution, which means I cannot go in terms of number of packs, in terms of number of products. Now isn't this a dichotomy of sorts because you are saying that there are smaller opportunities, which probably need a lot money launches, but you can't do them because you don't have the bandwidth? And -- or where I'm kind of not understanding.

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

No, Avi. I think as you -- I'm sorry if I not explained myself very clearly. It's not that niche opportunities on a regional basis will not be exploited. I think the question for us is there is -- there are 2 levels. Is a gastric capacity for a company to be able to handle new launches. There are some companies who show results by pipelining, right? Every quarter, 20 products [Foreign Language] 3% growth [Foreign Language], 5% growth [Foreign Language] 20% growth [Foreign Language]. We are not in that port, right?

Of a pipelining-led company. So there is a certain gastric capacity for the system to be able to handle complexity. And this is overall complex, not just distribution complexity, procurement complexity, manufacturing complexity, sourcing complexity, everything, right, all together. That's one part of it.

The other is, and this is what to answer the question that will come up on route to market. Now we are -- what we're looking at is how can we [indiscernible] target and sharp shoot on route to market to exploit these opportunities? That would give us a little bit more of tentacle like capabilities to be able -- to have a better and a more sustainable capillary distribution.

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Avi Mehta
analyst

So in a sense, the portfolio in different geographies could be very, very different. But that still doesn't take care of the manufacturing complexity, right? .

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Suresh Narayanan
executive

Look, the portfolio will not be dramatically different. I think the core essentials of the company in the 5, 6 categories that we -- will remain broadly the same. Where will the differentiation come? There will be a few variants that will be particular to particular geographies and some SKUs that might or might not be part of that portfolio, right? Or there could be a category entry for the time being, that could be in a particular geography.

All of these require essentials in terms of either manufacturing or essentials in terms of being able to distribute it reasonably, efficaciously into that geography. Those are the 2 capabilities that we need. Manufacturing capabilities, I think we have a fair amount of flexibility now that we've got 10-odd factories and more than 10-odd co-manufacturers to be able to take care of that complexity.

But where the rubber is going to hit the road is in terms of sizing the size of these opportunities before we start to pursue them. So we geography and what size of opportunity should I pursue. The trade-off is always are, Avi, between pursuing a small digital opportunity versus putting that resource behind and larger national opportunity. And that's where the challenge really comes.

Okay. So may I take the opportunity, firstly, of thanking all those who are online. And I'm sorry that some of you were not able to ask the questions, but please do sending your questions to Ambereen, so that I'm able to answer them as best as I can. I mean this is typically the way I operate and even at AGMs I answer every single question. So I feel a little bit sad today that a couple of you have not been able to ask a question.

On those who are present in the room, thank you all very much for your attending, for your -- for the respect and for the attention that I have always received from you. I'm deeply grateful for that. Also for your support and your positive criticism from time to time. I really appreciate it because I think that's what keeps certainly me going and hopefully my team going. What I've reflected today is 100% team effort. I only play the role of the cheer leader and [indiscernible] but the story is a story of thousands of people who come together to make this happen. And I think the tribute is to this team that makes this performance happen quarter after quarter, year after year.

So thank you all very much, and please do join us for some snacks. which includes some company products, I believe, and those who are online some other time. Thank you.

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Ambereen Ali Shah
executive

Thank you, sir. The proceedings of today's session will be recorded and uploaded on our website, www.nestle.in. Thank you very much once again for joining this call.

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