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Earnings Call Analysis

Q2-2024 Analysis
Zydus Wellness Ltd

Company Navigates Mixed Demand, Margins Up

The company's FMCG segment experienced mixed demand recovery, with urban growth and rural slowdown due to economic factors. Highlighting high double-digit growth in the Personal Care segment, notably in Nycil brands, the Food & Nutrition segment remained flat. Net sales grew by 2.6% to 4,379 million INR, and EBITDA increased by 3.7% year-on-year. Reported net profit dipped by 30.6%, attributed to noncash deferred tax. The company maintains a 60% market share through Glucon-D and leads with a 96.1% share through the Sugar Free brand. Challenges included the absence of Sugarlite sales owing to litigation. Margins showed an upward trend with a gross margin improvement of 198 basis points year-on-year, driven by non-dairy products and dairy stabilization. Long-term, the company aims for double-digit growth and aspires to reach an EBITDA margin of 17-18% from the current 15%, and an ROE of 10% in three years.

Company Sales and Margin Improvement

The company witnessed a moderate consolidated net sales growth of 2.6% year-on-year, leading to a sum of INR 4,379 million in sales for Q2 FY2023-24. Improvements in gross margins were noted, up by 198 basis points over the same period last year due to easing input costs and strategic price increases amidst a challenging environment.

Profitability Concerns Amid Sales Growth

Despite the rise in sales and EBITDA, which grew by 3.7% to INR 168 million, the reported net profit declined significantly by 30.6% to INR 59 million. This discrepancy raises concerns about the company's bottom-line efficiency and may prompt investors to look more closely at operational costs and profitability measures.

Product Segment Performance and Market Leadership

The company's performance varied across product categories with the Glucon-D brand maintaining a strong market share at 60.0%. The health food drinks segment, led by Complan, and the Sugar-Free brand retained their market dominance with shares of 4.4% and 96.1% respectively. The face scrub and peel-off segments also continued their growth trajectory while preserving leading market positions. However, the prickly heat powder category experienced a downturn, which the company aims to counter with other double-digit growth segments such as Nutralite.

Seasonality Impact and Margin Outlook

The company's financials display a clear seasonality, with higher EBITDA margins anticipated in Q1 and Q4, whereas Q2 and Q3 are expected to be less profitable. There is an intent to gradually recover gross margins to the pre-inflation levels of 17%-18% over the next few years, from the current annualized level of about 15%.

Future Growth Expectations

Management expressed optimism about returning to double-digit growth in the near future, especially by Q4, and anticipates continued robust growth over the next 3 to 4 years. The company also plans to maintain and even increase its Return on Equity (ROE) to 10% within the next three years.

Market and Consumer Branding Strategy

The company has engaged in various marketing initiatives, such as celebrity campaigns and digital outreach, to enhance brand perception and tackle negative sentiments around their products, with a particularly strong focus on the Sugar-Free category.

Investments and Distribution Expansion

Direct distribution has expanded significantly, doubling the size from INR 3-3.5 lakhs to 6 lakhs plus over the past few years. Though the results in general trade have been less than satisfactory, the company is committed to continually improve distribution and increase its presence, aiming to surpass 3 million outlets stocking its products.

Portfolio Growth and High-Performing Segments

The company is actively exploring innovation within its portfolio, specifically focusing on growth areas such as body lotions to diversify and reduce seasonal effects. Furthermore, the Everyuth brand has shown robust performance, with expected expansions and product developments to capitalize on its strong market position.

Digital and E-Commerce Strategy

Acknowledging the importance of modern sales channels, the company's focus includes specifically designed product packs to bolster its e-commerce and organized trade presence. The Everyuth brand has thrived in these channels, and plans are in motion to further leverage e-commerce for growth.

Advertising Spend and Margin Improvements

The company plans to maintain last year's level of advertising investments and potentially increase it in Q4 to capitalize on higher margins and larger business size. These investments are a strategic priority to support growth. Additionally, gross margins are expected to maintain improvement in the second half of the year thanks to stabilized non-milk prices.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2024-Q2

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Zydus Wellness Q2 FY '24 Conference Call, hosted by ICICI Securities. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded.

I now hand the conference over to Mr. Manoj Menon from ICICI Securities. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

M
Manoj Menon
analyst

Hi, everyone. It's a wonderful good morning and afternoon, good evening, depending on the part of the world we are joining this conference call from. As always, it's our absolute pleasure to host the management of Zydus Wellness Limited to discuss the recent quarter results. The company is represented today by Dr. Sharvil Patel, Chairman; Mr. Tarun Arora, CEO; Mr. Ganesh Nayak, Director; and Mr. Umesh Parikh, CFO.

Without much ado, over to the management for the opening remarks, post which we'll open the floor for Q&A. Over to you, sir.

T
Tarun Arora
executive

Thank you, Manoj. Good afternoon, and welcome to the post results teleconference of Zydus Wellness Limited for quarter 2 financial year 2023-'24. Like Manoj mentioned, we have with us Dr. Sharvil Patel, Chairman; Mr. Ganesh Nayak, Director; and Mr. Umesh Parikh, CFO, with us.

The FMCG segment witnessed a mixed quarter in terms of demand recovery. While urban segment continued to grow, the rural segment lagged a recovery in demand due to rising food prices and uneven weather patterns across the country. The Personal Care segment registered a high double-digit growth, aided by growth in Nycil brands due to hot and humid weather in many parts of the country. The growth was further accentuated by a strong traction of brand. The company's Nutralite brand also saw a strong surge in volume demand. However, value-led growth was suppressed due to reduction in market-driven prices.

In line with category, Complan brand has seen revival while continuing to increase penetration. In the Sweetener segment, growth remained muted due to absence of phase of Sugarlite on account of continuing trademark litigation of the brand and sectoral headwinds. As a result, the company's Food & Nutrition segment witnessed a flat quarter in terms of growth.

The company registered consolidated net sales growth of 2.6% on a year-on-year basis. The company continues to recover the gross margin during the quarter, aided by moderating rates of key inputs and calibrated price increases taken earlier. As a result, the company has registered improvement in consolidated gross margins on net sales by 198 basis points on a year-on-year basis.

Let me take you through the highlights of the consolidated financial performance of the quarter 2 financial year 2023-'24. During the second quarter of financial year 2023-'24, our net sales grew by 2.6% to INR 4,379 million. EBITDA grew by 3.7% year-on-year to INR 168 million. Reported profit before tax grew by 4.9% to INR 86 million. Reported net profit was down by 30.6% year-on-year at INR 59 million, mainly on account of deferred tax liability, which is a noncash item.

With that, let me share some of the highlights of the operations for the quarter, which will also cover the category growth and market share numbers as per MAT September '23 report of Nielsen and IQVIA. We continued our thrust on marketing initiatives to grow the categories and increase market share of our brands during the quarter.

So [indiscernible] On the Glucon-D front, we continue to drive consumption of our new variants of and mango-flavor during the quarter through active digital and engagement with consumers. The glucose powder category has grown by 1.2% at MET level. Glucon-D brand continues to maintain its #1 position with a market share of 60.0%.

On the Complan front, the company has registered ahead of the category volume optic growth with continuous efforts and necessary interventions, we have witnessed growth in penetration by double digits. The health food drinks category has registered a growth of 4.3% at MAT level. Complan market share stood at 4.4%. On sweeteners front, Sugar Free brand continued to show good uptick growth during the second quarter as well. We continue to hear our new communication campaign with Celebrity Katrina Kaif for driving Sugar Free Green. We also participated in several key PR initiatives like Dr. Mohan's International Diabetes Update 2023 and seeding vanacular KOL videos on digital platforms, to strongly counter any negative perceptions around non-nutritive sweeteners. The brand continues to maintain its market leadership with a market share of 96.1%.

On the personal care front, Everyuth brand posted yet another quarter of strong growth. The face scrub category has registered a growth of 6.2% at MAT level. Everyuth Scrap continues to maintain its leadership position with a market share of 43.4%, which is an increase of 162 basis points over the same period last year.

The peel off category has registered a degrowth of 0.5% at MAT level. Everyuth peel off has maintained its #1 position with a market share of 78.9%, which is an increase of 75 basis points over the same period last year. The Prickly heat powder category has degrown by 2.1% at MAT level. However, Nycil has registered double-digit growth and maintained its #1 position with a market share of 35.2%, which is an increase of 19 basis points over the same period last year. On the dairy and spreads category side, Nutralite brand has registered double-digit volume growth for the quarter aided by institutional sales. The company hopes for a further recovery in demand due to upcoming festive seasons, and we are working towards maintaining its gross margin recovery.

Thank you, and we will now start the Q&A. Over to the coordinator for Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Mr. Abneesh Roy from Nuvama Institutional Equities.

A
Abneesh Roy
analyst

Yes. Just one question I had. So on Complan and your dairy business. In terms of price hike last 1, 2 years, the entire industry and you must have taken price hike, there is a correction in the milk prices. So do you see your margins bottoming out once the inventory level et cetera, corrects? And second related question on Complan is, the market leader a volume dip in Q2. So specific to Q2, how is your volume performance in Complan?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So with the milk prices stabilizing, I think we do hope that across the value chain -- dairy-led value chain, we should see margins only improving. In terms of our volume, like I mentioned, Complan has seen a volume improvement in quarter 2...

A
Abneesh Roy
analyst

But are you calling that out as a good structural improvement given your base, et cetera, I understand, was a bit soft. And market leader is also taking a lot of activation, promotions, sampling, et cetera. So how do you judge this from a 2-year perspective? Y-o-y, I understand.

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So I think, for me, the structural set is because we are seeing a penetration going up, and that's a good sign because we are recruiting new consumers. And I look at over last 4 years, every year, we've been improving our -- widening our consumer base. And that, I think, is a good sign, which is really aiding the volume growth. Yes, you're right, there was a dip, but -- about a couple of years back, if I look at it, there was also a substantial volume increase during the COVID times. So over 3 to 4 years' period, I think this is a very positive thing. We just have to focus on sustaining and building around it.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Mr. Tejash Shah from Avendus Spark Institutional Equities.

T
Tejash Shah
analyst

My first question is on, if you can disintegrate the growth for the quarter in terms of volume value. And also if you can give some qualitative indication of which brands actually did better than the company average and which failed relatively poorly?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

Tejash, thanks for this. I think we've started giving a little bit of separate numbers to help you understand. So first of all, I think at a volume level, we've had a flat volume growth because some of the brands have had higher than some others. Just to look at it, I think Food & Nutrition, like we explained, is flat for the quarter. And personal care, both are -- both their brands have aided double-digit growth. Within the Food & Nutrition, while we've seen Nutralite because it's more reflective of the underlying oil and other ingredients impact, we've seen a high volume -- double digit volume momentum, which at a price level because we have to give corrections like any oil-based brands, therefore, it pulls down the price realization. So those are the major drivers of these volumes.

T
Tejash Shah
analyst

Second question pertains to Sugarlite. You called out the litigation disrupting the business for a while. So just wanted to understand what percent of total turnover comes from that, which would have got impacted this quarter? And any visibility -- I understand it's under litigation. Any ballpark visibility that you're going to give in terms of where -- by when do we expect to kind of see the back on this crisis?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So it's about 3% to 4% of our business in the lower quarters for us. We don't have any specific visibility. We are just hoping for a quicker resolve, and we are engaging with Supreme Court to hear the that we have.

T
Tejash Shah
analyst

Sure. And sir, you spoke about after many quarters, we have seen some tailwinds on the gross margin side. So how are you reading coming second half and then beyond that, the near term, how are you reading these tailwinds panning out in terms of gross margin visibility? And where do you see this year ending up on this number?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

I think we've clearly seen the nondairy portfolio leading the improvements in gross margins, which you've talked about. Now dairy also stabilizing with a nice drop, I think we're hoping even that stabilizes, we are looking good to continue this improvement in margins. I can't give you a specific answer, but should remain same or get better than this on improvement versus last year.

T
Tejash Shah
analyst

Got it. And sir, last one, if I may. Last quarter, we had some concerns pertaining to this WHO guidelines on aspartame. Now this quarter, you -- at least the presentation, it seems that we are not as much worried as we were last quarter. And even if I see aspartame prices that you have shared as a raw material, that has also not shown any weakness and then perhaps I'm over-reading it, but I just wanted your insights on the same.

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So just to -- we look at 2 levels -- 2 or 3 levels. We are reading from the market through the social listening about the talk on aspartame concerns our own tracks. I think that huge amount of impact that was there in terms of conversations that has actually died down. It's reduced. Our track is picking up less. From an offtake perspective, given by IQVIA, it's showing the positive movement. And that's really what we are hoping will build. In market, it still has to translate into a back to normal thing. It hasn't. So we are just hoping that it will slowly translate into positive regular numbers.

Operator

The next question is from the line of Mr. Umang Shah from Banyan Tree Advisors.

U
Unknown Analyst

Just if can tell me [indiscernible]

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Operator

Mr. Umang, we cannot hear you. You are not audible.

U
Unknown Analyst

I just wanted to confirm what was the contribution of Sugarlite brand for the last 6 months?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So it's about closer to 4% in the weaker quarters, annualized will be half of that.

U
Unknown Analyst

Okay. Okay. And sir, this litigation is going on since 2020, right, the first filing. So do we see this to be resolved in this coming year? Or will it be pushed to next year, any idea?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

We are hopeful of it getting sorted, but the litigation is not in our control.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Mr. Dewang, an individual investor.

U
Unknown Shareholder

My question is on EBITDA margin. Why are EBITDA margins so low compared to the peer group and as an industry as a whole for the quarter?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So thanks for this question. I think if you look at it, we have a seasonality. And therefore, the EBITDA margins need to be looked at in total because we have a high seasonality and therefore, quarter 4 and quarter 1 have tend to be significantly higher and quarter 2 and 3 tend to be much lower because seasonality is impacted. So better to look at either trailing 12 months or annual picture.

U
Unknown Shareholder

Even in the previous quarter, it was only 14%, 15%. Can you guide what is our aspirational level for the EBITDA margin?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So we had said that while we were at 17%, 18% due to huge inflation over the last 2, 3 years, we've seen those dropping to closer to about annualized level of 15%. We expect over next couple of years, we will claw back to a 17%, 18% level and then plan further steps to improve it.

U
Unknown Shareholder

And sir, next question is revenue growth is significantly below inflation levels. And what would be the key driver for the next few years and pathway to increase ROE over the next few years?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So there is a mix impact. I think some of the brands have actually done significantly well. There is also the demand impact, which like in my starting point, I mentioned there is a certain demand, which is impacted in the overall FMCG space also. We hope and expect that we should be back at double-digit growth in the coming quarters. Demand should get better by at least quarter 4. And back festive season also, most of us are hoping should lead to a better demand and by quarter 4 should be back to better demand and better growth numbers.

U
Unknown Shareholder

Sir, any like -- for long-term picture, like 2 years, 3 years, not quarter-wise, Q4?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So from a medium-term perspective, we are committed, and we do believe we have a strong portfolio which can deliver continued double-digit growth on the back of growing our categories, expanding the consumer base. And also competitively, we are well placed to win in that marketplace. So we do believe a good double-digit growth is what we should be looking at over 3 to 4 years.

U
Unknown Shareholder

And sir, any light on ROE?

U
Umesh Parikh
executive

So ROE, as you know that because of the acquisition, ROE tends to be generally lower because the inclusion of goodwill. But as we go forward, we have earlier given a guidance that we'll be touching ROE of 10% in 3 years' time.

U
Unknown Shareholder

Okay. And my last question is, as we are more of wellness company, than an FMCG company. Is there any plan to expand into ayurvedic space and build any brand around that or acquire any company in that space?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So we are -- business deployment is a constant part of our effort, whether it's ideal innovations as well as acquisitions. We have reasonable capability around some of these things. But no specific plans to share at this moment. When we have something specific, we'll be able to share it.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Mr. Madhur Rathi from Counter Cyclical Investments Private Limited.

U
Unknown Analyst

Sir, my question was regarding the similar to what previous participant has asked. Sir, our revenues have not grown above the inflation rate. Sir, if you could just explain the growth path when will lower double digit and how will achieve this margin -- revenue growth as well as margins, it would be very helpful.

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So if you look at it, last financial year, we did grow at 12%. This year, I think especially the first 4, 5 months have been substantially impacted by one largest component has been our largest brand, which has a seasonality and due to very -- impact has had a challenge, mainly Glucon-D. And that actually has pulled down in the overall growth, if I were to say. We do expect that things should be back to normal starting quarter 4. And now as things -- as festive season appears -- starts, things should only start getting better from a growth point of view. Over next 2 to 3 years as an earlier further had asked, I think we do expect back to a normal double-digit growth for us.

U
Unknown Analyst

Okay, sir. Answer, we have guided on a buyback, so how are...

T
Tarun Arora
executive

Can you repeat the question?

U
Unknown Analyst

So regarding the buyback that we have disclosed over the last quarter, so is there any momentum on that?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

There is no discussion on buyback. Board will...

U
Unknown Analyst

No sir. I am not asking for a buyback. That's I'm asking that has there any...

T
Tarun Arora
executive

No.

U
Unknown Analyst

Sir, I wanted to understand, sir, with Complan in our portfolio right now, will there be a decline in seasonality going forward? Or will the seasonality will continue for the next 2 to 3 years?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

Seasonality is part of our portfolio mix, where -- 2 of our brands, Glucon-D and Nycil have a substantial share in the summer seasonality. That's part of the mix with Complan, Glucon-D, Nycil all the brands being there in the portfolio. So I don't think structurally, I see any change while we are committed to build on nonseasonal brands, but I think the overall structure shift, I don't see over the next 2 years.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Mr. Karan Bhuwania from ICICI Securities.

K
Karan Bhuwania
analyst

Sir, for both the international business, how is the performance...

T
Tarun Arora
executive

If I were to look at -- sorry, can you repeat?

Operator

I'm sorry, sir, just wanted to let Karan sir know that you are not audible enough, sir.

K
Karan Bhuwania
analyst

Can you hear me now? Yes. Firstly, I want to do -- upon your international performance -- business performance, how is the performance...

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So if I look at first half of the year, we continue -- we had double-digit growth on international business. it is slightly lower than our expectation because one of our major markets, Nigeria, particularly had a severe currency devaluation due to which some of our business had got stuck. I think with things getting now streamlined, it's come back. All other markets continue to grow and grow double digits. So overall, I think for first half year in double digit zone. So we can do much better as these are external factors, which we'll have to be with as you keep building this business organically.

K
Karan Bhuwania
analyst

Got it. Secondly, sir, if I look at your ad spend, see ad spends has been flat in terms year-on-year, right? And if you look at most of the other FMCG companies, they have been including their aspartame significantly where somewhere between 30% to 35%, so that's in the company. So we will win this underinvestment in ad spends could impact our growth in the future, how do you look at it?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So we are equally concerned about any advertising tracks. So I think over a 2- to 3-year period, if you look at it, I think, we won't have been much lower in terms of spent's direction. More importantly, I think we've also taken significant actions in terms of optimizing our investments in terms of our cost efficiencies around some of these things. Going forward, I think as the gross margins expand, we will continue to invest back on advertising as the biggest priority for us.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Mr. Shirish Pardeshi from Centrum Broking Limited.

S
Shirish Pardeshi
analyst

Looking at the slide on raw materials, Slide 6 and 7, I think barring about milk, RPO has come down, aspartame and stevia prices were also looking sequentially down. So just wanted to check if milk from here slides another 10%, 15%. Is it safer to assume that second half of our gross margin will be significantly higher, say, from 44.9% what we have reported in this quarter?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So we do believe our -- we have seen a 200 basis points improvement or 198 basis points improvement over last year in quarter 2, that's the kind of trend over last year we would see in HY2, more led by, of course, non-milk prices, but they've also been stabilized and slightly, I think, we should be able to -- that's our view as...

S
Shirish Pardeshi
analyst

Yes. That's helpful. I just wanted to check. I mean, just to continue, do you think second half our ad will be higher because right now, the consumption and the discretionary is taking tole, but if there is a significant improvement, do you think the ad spend will inch up in next quarter and the EBITDA will reach towards 14%, 15% range?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So I think our ad spends will be in line with what we've been doing last year. I don't think there's a disproportionate increase, but we will be looking at significant opportunities specifically in quarter 4 as the business gets larger and we can -- with the better margins, we should be able to invest back more aggressively.

S
Shirish Pardeshi
analyst

Okay. My last question on the Everyuth. I think over the last 5, 6 quarters, we have done a lot of work in terms of additional distribution. I think what is healding the growth? If you can -- I mean, we are undisputed leader. So there is no question. But the other 2 segments, we have done revamp of packaging and other things. Distribution focus is also there. But what is it when we see the double-digit growth in that segment?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So we're seeing a double-digit growth. There is no reason. Actually, it sometimes Nielsen because of being smaller segments, doesn't do justice to what the brand is doing. And that's why we've given a personal care, which captures both Nycil and Everyuth. And Everyuth is a significant portion of quarter 2 numbers. So you can take for us that -- from us that not just one quarter, but over several quarters, we have seen consistent good double-digit growth.

S
Shirish Pardeshi
analyst

One follow-up. Do you think we need to expand other segments of personal care and Everyuth brand?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

Absolutely. Absolutely with view on that. I think scrub and peel off have demonstrated what we can do with this brand and how the strength of this brand is. We are clearly evaluating 2 things to build on. One is body lotions, which will help us deseasonalize. We are -- while face wash has also grown well for us but more so in specific channels. We will be looking at more innovations, more work to expand the portfolio and see how can Everyuth be a much larger brand, given what we have seen in terms of traction on each segments.

S
Shirish Pardeshi
analyst

The reason why I'm asking because now on e-commerce, our CLS has already reached 10%. So is Everyuth is under-indexed in the alternate channels, for example, modern trade?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

Not really, this 10% -- so overall, our business is about 20% between monitored and e-commerce, 20%, 22%. And Everyuth specifically needs this in these channels. So it's not underleveraged. Actually, it has been always ahead of the rest of the business. It's actually -- the low side is brands like Glucon-D, Nycil, which have a larger rural presence and a wider deeper presence because of more SEC BNC. But Everyuth does very well on e-commerce. We are doing well across channels. So we have the flashes which reach out to lower pops' strata and the larger packs which go for e-commerce and monitor.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Next question is from the line of Mr. Manoj Menon from ICICI Securities.

M
Manoj Menon
analyst

Tarun, one question on the sales vector of growth, whether it in terms of numeric distribution, or whether in terms of line selling. If you can just talk a bit about, let's say, how that has panned out in the last 2 to 3 years? And how do you see the medium term?

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So if I look at it over the last 2 to 3 years, we have done specific actions across our channels to expand GT in terms of direct distribution, which used to be about INR 3 lakhs, INR 3.5 lakhs about 3 years back. We've taken it to 6 lakhs plus. On e-commerce, clearly, when before COVID, which was 1%, which we started doing about 9-odd percent, 8%, 9%. which went through its own challenge, we have really expanded our portfolio. Food service because Nutralite we've taken a focus action. So across the portfolio, we realize that if we have to grow our brands and we being leaders, sales would be a critical element of driving this activity.

The outcomes of each of these is where we've seen e-commerce playing a very good role in terms of both expanding our portfolio as well as our market share within this tough it doesn't get reported in -- And therefore, so those actions get missed. Also, we've come up with specific packs in trade and e-commerce to drive this agenda, which I think is a requirement of this organized trade and which we are working on. From our food service also, we've seen a portfolio Nutralite really helping us expand. I think JT has been, I would say, something which we think we have invested consistently. We have expanded our distribution, but the outcomes are less than satisfying, which is not just true for us, but I hear other FMCGs also talking of a similar thing, where the share of general trade has fallen. So we continue to drive our efforts because we feel access will -- continue to play a very critical role in category expansion. And therefore, we stay focused on it. We are taking multiple actions now where we think one is, of course, to continue to increase our distribution, but also increase our pack efficiency -- pack productivity also more SKUs per outlets that we cover so that we are able to get better value out of But that's a little bit more external factors which are driving it. So overall, I think, satisfied with the effort we can continue doing it. We used to be 1.8 million availability as reported by combined business level when we acquired. Today, it's more than 2.5 million. My wish list is we could cross a 3 million outlets stocking Zydus Wellness products. And that's really where we would want it to be in the next couple of years, maybe.

Operator

The next question is from the line of Mr. Dewang Saraogi and Individual Investor.

U
Unknown Shareholder

As a promoter is on the call, I want to ask him whether they are interested in buying more shares from the open market, if they can comment on this.

T
Tarun Arora
executive

So I think, currently, I don't think we have any additional comments because the promoter family group sees, not -- lets meet separately where we are not involved as part of this

Operator

As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

T
Tarun Arora
executive

Thank you, everyone. Season greetings and happy Diwali. We will see you after the next quarter.

Operator

Thank you, sir. On behalf of ICICI Securities, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.