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Earnings Call Analysis

Q3-2023 Analysis
Adecoagro SA

Adecoagro Reports Strong 2023 Q3 Results

In Q3 2023, Adecoagro showcased remarkable operational and financial performance with adjusted EBITDA skyrocketing to $155 million, 27% higher than the previous year. The surge was driven by record sugar production, achieving a significant 30% year-over-year increase in cane quality and a 50% price premium of sugar over hydroethanol. Despite facing the worst drought in history, the company effectively managed through efficiency initiatives. With El Nino's arrival, the agricultural outlook is highly optimistic, and 80% of the planting plan is already complete. The dairy business performed on par with last year, and a strategic farm sale in Argentina resulted in a 20% value gain exceeding independent appraisals. Adecoagro stands committed to sustainable practices, as recognized by ESG rating agencies, while also emphasizing shareholder returns with a $35 million or $0.33 per share annual dividend.

Significant Growth in EBITDA and Crushing Volume

The company experienced a substantial upturn with adjusted EBITDA reaching $155 million, marking a 27% increase over the previous year. Concurrently, the company achieved record crushing volumes of 9.6 million tons, a figure 31% higher year-over-year, with sugar production hitting a new high of 320,000 tons for the quarter.

Strategic Focus Enhances Sugar Premium

By concentrating on sugar production, which commanded a premium of over 50% relative to hydroethanol, the company capitalized on favorable market conditions. The flexibility of the mills allowed for a production mix of 48% sugar and 52% ethanol, demonstrating the company's adaptability in optimizing product mix in response to market dynamics.

Robust Net Sales Bolstered by Higher Production and Prices

Net sales for the company saw an impressive climb, reaching $190 million for the quarter and $471 million year-to-date, which represent increases of 17% and 16% from the prior year, respectively. This rise was primarily driven by heightened sugar sales, enabled by increased production and favorable pricing, with average selling prices for sugar up by 20%.

Investment Decisions Yield Positive Results

The company's strategic investments, particularly the acquisition of Rice Mills in Uruguay, have contributed to an improved mix of higher-value-added products like rice. These decisions have not only fortified the company's operations but also have allowed it to penetrate new markets and realize premium pricing, further bolstering revenue streams.

Progress in ESG Initiatives

The company has strived to embrace and communicate its sustainable production models effectively. Its efforts have been recognized by ESG rating agencies, and it continues to make strides in biomethane production while maintaining a prudent debt policy, with net debt decreasing by 13% compared to the previous year.

CapEx Emphasizes Expansion and Efficiency

Approximately 28% of the total capital expenditures for the quarter were allocated to expansion projects, which include increasing sugarcane plantation areas and constructing a second biodigestion unit in Brazil. These investments are expected to further improve efficiency and production capacity.

Solid Liquidity and Debt Ratios

The firm's financial health remains strong, with a liquidity ratio of 1.8x, showcasing its capacity to cover short-term debts easily. Additionally, the net leverage ratio stands at a conservative 1.5x, underlining a solid balance sheet position.

Outlook for 2024: Further Crushing Volume Increase Projected

Looking ahead, the company projects a 5% to 10% increase in crushing volume for 2024 compared to this year, which suggests continued growth and an ability to capitalize on any market opportunities that arise.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q3

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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for waiting. At this time, we would like to welcome everyone to Adecoagro's Third Quarter 2023 Results Conference Call. Today with us, we have Mr. Mariano Bosch, CEO; Mr. Emilio Gnecco, CFO; Mr. Renato Junqueira Pereira, Sugar, Ethanol and Energy VP; and Mrs. Victoria Cabello, Investor Relations Officer. We would like to inform you that this event is being recorded and all participants will be in listen-only mode during the company's presentation. After the company's remarks are completed, there will be a question-and-answer section. At that time, further instructions will be given. Before proceeding, let me mention that forward-looking statements are based on the beliefs and assumptions of Adecoagro's management and on information currently available to the company. They involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions because they relate to future events and therefore, depend on circumstances that may or may not occur in the future. Investors should understand that general economic conditions, industry conditions and other operating factors could also affect the future results of Adecoagro and could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in such forward-looking statements. Now I'll turn the conference over to Mr. Mariano Bosch, CEO. Mr. Bosch, you may begin your conference.

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Mariano Bosch
executive

Good morning, and thank you for joining Adecoagro's 2023 Third Quarter Results Conference. As you may have seen in the report, we are presenting very good operational and financial results. Our adjusted EBITDA during the quarter was $155 million, 27% higher compared to last year. We are very enthusiastic about how our sugar, ethanol and energy business continues to perform. Last quarter, I mentioned some of the work we started doing a few years ago to enhance the productivity of our sugarcane plantation. I mentioned innovative techniques like presprouted seedling and its reproduction in our own biofactory, the incorporation of state-of-the-art farming equipment, the use of drones and artificial intelligence, biological pesticides, et cetera, et cetera. During this quarter, we saw the results of our work. For example, we achieved record crushing volume of 4.5 million tonnes. The quantity and quality of our sugarcane plantation is in an excellent shape with a TRS content per hectare over 30% higher year-over-year. With this sugarcane, we produced a record volume of sugar. Indeed, we focus on solving minor bodynecks in our sugar kitchen and were able to produce sugar above our nominal capacity, increasing our already large flexibility. And this came at a time when sugar commanded a premium over hydroethanol of more than 50%. We remain with our hedges open and very well positioned to continue taking advantage of these price opportunities. Brazil is the most efficient country in the world in the production of sugar, and we own one of the most efficient operations in Brazil and therefore, in the world. The region of Mato Rosol, where our cluster is located, allows us to mill all the year on maximizing our milling time while at the same time diluting our costs. We are very proud of our operational teams for the constant search of efficiencies and opportunities to expand our production. Now let's move into our Farming business in Argentina and Uruguay. As you already know, this year, we experienced the worst drought in history. This had an impact in our results. But during the year, we focused on strengthening efficiencies across all of our operations, finding saving opportunities to mitigate the impact. In the crop business, our results were significantly affected by the drought. As we mentioned in the past releases, but this is now behind us. We are starting fresh with the '23, '24 campaign. All of our teams are fully focused on planting activities, which are being conducted under excellent conditions. El Nino weather event that we have been talking about for the past month is now here and has improved so humidity across all of our productive regions. We are in an excellent situation to maximize yields in all our crops and go back to normalized EBITDA levels for this segment. In the case of our rice business, we are achieving even better results than last year. A big part of this was thanks to the decision we made last year to set a foot in Uruguay by acquiring Rice Mills. This offered greater sustainability to our operations and provided us with more commercial tools. We are entering into new markets, offering clients customized varieties of high-quality rice developed in our own set unit and full product trial. This better mix of higher value-added products is allowing us to book premium on top of the high lower price prices. In terms of the '23, '24 campaign, water reservoirs recovered thanks to the range receive. So we have the necessary water levels to secure a successful campaign. So far, we have already planted 80% of our plan. In our daily business, we are achieving results in line with last year. The impact of the drought was mainly seen in higher costs of fee. However, we were able to mitigate this with a record high productivity levels in our fully populated free stores. Also having the flexibility to sell into the domestic and export market and switch production from one to the other was key during this month of lower powder milk prices. Regarding our land portfolio, during the quarter, we sold the farm in Argentina for more than 20% above our independent appraiser and with a very attractive IRR. A quick note on ESG. As we always said, since inception, we have been focused on developing sustainable production models in the interiors of the countries where we operate. Part of the work we have been doing with our ESG committee is to better communicate how we create value from an economical, environmental and social point of view under a robust corporate governance model. We are proud to see that our work is paying off and ESG rating agencies like Sustainalytics, rank among the leading players in our in. In the meantime, we continue making progress in our operations. For example, in our production of biomethane, which we are already using to power more than 130 vets, replacing this consumption. Finally, in terms of distribution, we are complying with our policy, always maintaining our debt levels below 2x EBITDA. Next week, on November 24, we will be paying the second installment of our cash dividend. This represents an annual dividend of $35 million or $0.33 per share on top of the $24 million we have already invested in share repurchases this year. To conclude, I want to thank our team. It is because of your hard work and effort that despite a very challenging start of the year, we are managing to end it with a very positive outlook ahead. Thank you to our shareholders for your continued support. Now I will let Emilio walk you through the numbers of the quarter.

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Emilio Gnecco
executive

[Audio Gap] $88 million during the third quarter, making a 2% year-over-year increase while on an accumulated basis, it reached $1 billion, 7% higher than the previous year. This was mostly explained by greater productivity indicators in our Sugar, Ethanol and Energy division, which enabled us to increase our sugar production and execute sales at solid prices, coupled with higher average selling prices in our rice and dairy businesses. In addition, during September, we completed the sale of Elimeriliano farm for a selling price of $48 million fully collected at the closing date. Consequently, adjusted EBITDA reached $155 million during the quarter, whereas year-to-date, it stood at $381 million, 27% and 16% higher than its respective previous periods. Now please turn to Slide 5 and direct your attention to our production figures. As you can see on the bottom right chart, crushing volumes in our Sugar, Ethanol and Energy business were up 31% on a year-to-date basis. Higher crushing translates into higher production volume, which drives sales at the same time as it dilutes costs. This was mostly possible, thanks to the implementation of innovative agricultural techniques such as presprouted seedling, which enable us to reproduce sugarcane varieties that have better performance, both in yields and tires content in our regions. On the other hand, total production in our farming division reported a 29% year-over-year reduction, mostly explained by the reduction in yields and planted area in our crop segment because of El Nino weather event. Let's move ahead to Slide 7 with the operational performance of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy business. During the third quarter, we marked a new record in crushing volume of 4.5 million tons, 20% higher versus the prior year. This was mostly driven by solid productivity indicators such as yields, which presented a 27% year-over-year improvement to 82 tons per hectare during the quarter while TRS content increased 3% to 145 kilograms per ton. In terms of mix, we diverted as much as 49% of our TRS to sugar in line with our strategy to maximize production of the product with the highest marginal contribution. In fact, throughout the quarter, we were able to produce more sugar than our nominal industrial capacity, thanks to small adjustments made in our sugar kitchen to reduce bottlenecks and benefit from the high TRS per hectare and profit from this price scenario. Consequently, sugar production reached 320,000 tons during the quarter, making a new record for our mills. Within our ethanol production, 96% was hydrates, which can be dehydrated at a time and turned into unhydroethanol and be sold either to the domestic or export market, wherever the price premium is great. On a year-to-date basis, crushing volume reached 9.6 million tons, 31% higher year-over-year. As mentioned before, this is mostly explained by a significant improvement in yields and TRS content as well as to greater sugarcane availability, which enabled us to resume our continuous harvest model during the first quarter of 2023. Production mix stood at 48% sugar and 52% ethanol on a year-to-date basis, as shown in the bottom right chart, while we maximize sugar production throughout the first 9 months of the year, the profit from the rally in global sugar prices, last year we maximized ethanol during the first semester and switched to sugar during the third quarter as ethanol prices decreased. This proves the high degree of flexibility of our mills. Let's please turn to Slide 8, where we would like to describe our sales conducted throughout the year. Net sales amounted to $190 million during the quarter and $471 million year-to-date, making a 17% and 16% increase compared to the previous year, respectively. In both cases, this was driven by higher sugar sales on higher production and prices, which fully offset the year-over-year reduction in ethanol sales. As you can see on the top left chart, selling volumes of sugar amounted to 546,000 tons year-to-date as our mix decision favored sugar production to capture the significant price premium over ethanol. Consequently, our average selling prices increased 20% versus the prior year. In the case of ethanol, we made the commercial decision to reduce sales and build stocks as prices have decreased due to high supply levels in Brazil. In addition, it must be recognized that the year-over-year comparison is not fair, as in April 2022, we took advantage of a market opportunity that ethanol offer and sold our production at very attractive prices. It is worth highlighting that within the volumes sold year-to-date, we exported 29,000 cubic meters at an average price of $0.196 per pound of sugar equivalent. This is so since we have the necessary certifications and industry capacity to meet product specifications. On an accumulated basis, energy selling volumes increased 14% compared to the prior year, but the average selling price decreased by 9% due to lower energy spot prices. Regarding carbon credits, we sold $2 million worth of [indiscernible] during the quarter, making a 33% year-over-year increase on higher average selling prices, which fully offset the lower volume of Survios issued on lower ethanol sales. Year-to-date, we sold over 320,000 [indiscernible] amounting to $6 million in sales. Please go to Page 9, where we would like to present the financial performance of the Sugar, Ethanol and Energy business. Adjusted EBITDA amounted to $115 million and $308 million during the third quarter and on an accommodated basis, respectively. In both cases, the increase was mainly driven by higher net sales. However, results were partially offset by a year-over-year loss reported in the mark-to-market of our commodity hedge position on higher global sugar prices. Finally, to conclude with the Sugar, Ethanol and Energy business, please turn to Slide 10, where we would like to briefly talk about the current outlook. Assuming weather going normal, we maintain our expectation to increase 2023 crushing volume by 15% compared to 2022 as we have sufficient sugarcane availability to utilizing our industrial capacity. This, in turn, will result in a reduction in unitary cash cost due to better dilution of fixed costs. From a commercial point of view, sugar prices continue to be supported by strong fundamentals, and the closest contract is trading on average about $0.27 per pound. We are in an excellent position to profit from this scenario as we have 11% of our expected 2023 sugar production unhedged. And for the 2024, 82% of our sugar position remains open. In the case of ethanol, Party at the pump currently stands at 62%, pressured by greater Cana productivity in the sent-out region and limited storage capacity. Consequently, we expect prices to recover towards the end of the harvest season when the offer pressure is over and the demand is greater. For that reason, we are currently taking advantage of our ethanol tank storage capacity to carry over production into the following quarters. In the meantime, we are profiting from opportunities in the export market. Post the end of the third quarter, we sold 25,000 cubic meters of anhydrosethanl to usage. Now we would like to move on to the farming business. Please go to Slide 12. As of the end of October 2023, we concluded harvesting activities related to our 2022, '23 harvest season and produced over 800,000 tons of agricultural produce. As previously stated, yields for most of our summer crops presented a significant decline compared to the prior campaign because of El Nino weather event. On the other hand, planting activities for 2023, '24 campaign are currently underway, and we expect a positive outlook as weather has shifted to El Nino. Recent rains registered in almost all the productive regions of Argentina and Uruguay has allowed for an improvement in soil moisture and recovery of water reserves, favoring planting activities for our summer crops. Consequently, we see a potential upside in planting area for rice as well as full recovery in adjusted EBITDA generation in our crops business in 2024 is there is no long-term impact in our earnings potential from the past rayweather. On the following Page 13, we would like to present the financial performance of our Farming and Land Transformation businesses. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $47 million in the quarter, making a $30 million year-over-year increase. Year-to-date, adjusted EBITDA was $90 million, 23% higher than the previous year. In both cases, this was explained by an outperformance from our Rice division coupled with the sale of El Medilano Farm, which in turn fully offset the weak performance of crops and from the dairy business. Starting with our crop business, adjusted EBITDA amounted to $98,000 and $67,000 during the third quarter and first 9 months of the year, respectively. As previously explained, results were mainly impacted by the reduction in yields coupled with a genuine increase in costs in dollar terms and a reduction in planted area versus the previous season. Adjusted EBITDA in our Rice business was $11 million in the third quarter and $38 million on an accumulated basis. This was driven by an increase in the average selling price due to a better mix of higher added value products and higher global prices, which, in turn, fully offset the reduction in yields and the increasing costs in dollar terms. It is worth highlighting that India, the world's largest rice exporter planned the export of long-range white rice to secure domestic supply. Consequently, we expect to continue capturing these higher prices in the short to midterm as demand shifts to South American rice due to limited supply from Asian countries. Moving on to the dairy business. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $6 million, 33% lower than the prior year, while year-to-date, it stood at $23 million, making a 4% year-over-year reduction. Results were explained by higher average selling prices as we produce more fluid milk for the domestic market, which offered the highest marginal contribution during this period, coupled with our continuous focus on achieving efficiencies in our vertically integrated operations. However, these results were partially offset by higher costs in dollar terms, especially Cafe. During September 2023, we completed the sale of El Meridiano farm located in the province of Buenos Aires, Argentina for a selling price of $48 million, which was fully collected at the closing date. I would like to point out that the farm was sold at a 29% premium to the 2022 Cushman & Wakefield's independent farmland appraisal. Let's now turn to Page 15, where we would like to present our capital allocation strategy. As a way of reminder, during 2022, we generated $141 million of net cash from operations. According to our distribution policy, we are committed to a minimum distribution of 40% of the cash generated during the previous year via a combination of cash devedends and share repurchase. In terms of dividends, on November 24, we will make our second cash dividend payment of $17.5 million, which represents approximately $0.16 per share. The first installment was paid on May 24 in an equal cash amount, resulting in an annual cash dividend of $35 million. In addition, we have already repurchased $24 million in shares year-to-date, which represents approximately 2.4% of the company's equity. Moving on to our debt position. Our net debt amounted to $707 million, making a 13% decrease compared to the same period of last year and a 17% quarter-over-quarter reduction. This was explained by our net cash from operations generated during the last 12 months and the company's financial strategy, which in turn enabled us to reduce our net debt position while also attending our distribution policy and growth projects. As of September 30, 2023, our liquidity ratio reached 1.8x showing the company's full capacity to repay short-term debt with its cash balances, whereas our net leverage ratio was 1.5x, 0.6x down compared to the previous year. To conclude, 28% of total CapEx invested throughout the quarter was testing to expansion projects. Investments on this front were mostly related to continue increasing our sugarcane plantation and the construction of our second biodigestion in Brazil. Once we cocluded the latter will enable us to increase our current biogas production which is then converted into biomethane and used to replace our diesel consumption. As of today, we have over 120 lightweight vehicles adopted and running with biomethane as well as other 8 heavyweight vehicles. In our Farming division, we have renewed our cheese production line in Morteros facility. Investments made will contribute to accessing new markets and clients through the production of other types of semi hard and hard cheeses while simultaneously decreasing the amount of waste generated throughout the entire production process. Thank you very much for your time. We are now open to questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Thiago Duarte from BTG Pactual.

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Thiago Duarte
analyst

Yes, 2 questions on our side here. The first one is with regards to the evolution of the crushing pace in the Sugar, Ethanol and Energy business and particularly looking at the evolution of the productivity which has been really strong this year. And so the question is really about whether you see upside risk to the 15% increase in crushing volumes that you have guided for the year? Because it does seem like you have a lot more raw material available to crush than only 15% increase. And obviously, if you're keeping the 15% increase, whether we should be seeing more cane being carried over into the next crop and whether we could see a bigger crushing next year relative to around 12 million tonnes this year. So that would be the first question. And the second one is also on the sugar business. We have started to see different players announcing different sorts of investments in order to increase their capacity to produce sugar or to increase their sugar mix as opposed to ethanol. And obviously, with sugar prices trading where they are relative to ethanol, it does seem to make sense even for some mills that historically haven't made much sugar. So the question is whether you guys are considering the possibility of doing the same? And obviously, whatever you can share with us with that regard, that will be great to hear as well.

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Mariano Bosch
executive

Thiago, thank you for your question. Renato will take your first question, and then I will take the second one. Renato, regarding the evolution of crushing and the upside risk compared to 15% we've already guided.

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Renato Pereira
executive

Okay. Thiago, thank you for your question. I think to add there this year is being very good. We are not seeing periods of excess nor lack of moisture in the soil. So this is very good for correction. So we are crushing -- our crushing pace is doing pretty well. And also the perspective of the yields are really good too so we are confident that we are going to achieve this 15% more crushing compared to last year. Regarding the risk of crushing more than 15%, I think it's possible. But of course, it depends on the use of time in the last quarter. Last quarter is always difficult to predict the use of time. So considering historical use of time, we should be crushing 15% margin than last year. And we think that we are going to be in a very good position to crush in the first quarter of next year. I think the sugarcane looks good, looks very good. So we will be, I would say, plenty of sugarcane to be crushed in a very intense quarter in the first quarter. So that's the first question.

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Mariano Bosch
executive

And regarding the second question, Thiago, we've been making small investments during the full year. And as you can see, every quarter, we are increasing the amount of sugar that we are producing on the mix. So we are going to end up on up to 52% of sugar of the total TRS. And so this year, we are very optimistic on achieving these numbers that are above the nominal capacities. When you hear the other guys building sugar factories, it's because they don't have any sugar factory. We do have sugar factory in all our mills. So what we are doing is increasing marginally the productivity of each one of the factories. So for next year, we can still see an increase of the sugar production of the total sugar production because of this increase that Renato was talking about and because of maximizing sugar since the very beginning. So what we are investing is on making the process of our sugar factory work perfectly well all the year round for next year. That's where we are today regarding the sugar mix investment.

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Thiago Duarte
analyst

Perfect. And just a follow-up on Renato's comments. Are you guys ready to sort of, I don't know, a point or guide towards an additional increase in sugarcane volumes into next year. Would that be reasonable or feasible to think relative to this year?

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Mariano Bosch
executive

Yes. We think that, that reasonably relative to this year, of course, as Renato explained, our sugar crushing is variable according to the use of time of the sugar mills. But assuming weather going normal, we should have an increase of at least 5% and maybe up to 10% when we compare to this year. And that's something that if we continue to do the same thing that we've been doing, we can certainly be there.

Operator

Next question from Larissa Pérez from Itau BBA.

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Larissa Pérez
analyst

Congratulations once again on the very strong results. I have 2 questions on the sugar and ethanol side. First, I was wondering if you could provide us some more perspectives on your forecasted destocking base, particularly for ethanol. I mean, in other words, what should we expect in terms of selling volumes for the next quarter? And in that context, I was wondering if you could provide us some color on your storage capacity for ethanol or if you currently have enough storage capacity or if you're having to lease third-party storaging facilities? And how do you think that compares to your regional peers? My second question would be on capital allocation as well. I remember that a couple of months ago, we discussed the possibility of the company increasing its planted area in [indiscernible], given the strong outlook ahead for the sector. And I was wondering if you have any updates on that front that you can share with us right now. I mean if Atacado were to increase its sugarcane planted area, would that involve converting pastureland or would you leave land already used for sugarcane something amongst that line. Thank you once again, and congratulations on the results.

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Mariano Bosch
executive

Thank you, Larissa. Renato will take your first question, and I will take the second one. So Renato, do you want to clarify regarding the selling volumes of ethanol and storage capacity.

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Renato Pereira
executive

Larissa. We think that the low part ratio at the plant now and the level of demand of ethanol that you have been seeing is going to increase this disparity towards the 7%. Probably, we're going to see this in the next months. So we are taking advantage of all our tanks storage capacity. And also, we are leasing some tanks outside of our mills. So at this moment, we have approximately 250,000 cubic meters stores. So we will be feeling the market how quick the price should go up to start selling our volume between the fourth quarter and the first quarter of next year.

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Mariano Bosch
executive

Okay. Thank you, Renato. Larissa, regarding the capital allocation and the planted area, of course, within the growth projects that we have, we've always indicated that growing the planting area or the amount of sugarcane that we produce in the cluster is probably the most efficient investment that we've been doing. And as we've been growing, we are able to lease land mainly from [indiscernibe]. One of the advantages that we have is that we don't have competition in sugarcane land with other sugar mills because of our specific location or the competition is very low. So in general, when we plant new sugarcane, we convert pasture lands into sugarcane. That's basically what we've been doing. This year 2023, we are planting 8,000 hectares of new planted hectares being specific on answering your question.

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. For the written questions, I'll pass the floor over to Victoria, Investor Relations Officer.

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Victoria Cabello
executive

We received a question from Julia Riso from Morgan Stanley, and she asks, I would like to ask about next year crushing and mix. Sugar production could go as much as the 3,020 4 quarters. Basically, is it possible that each quarter we could see the same record volume of sugar production than we did this quarter?

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Mariano Bosch
executive

Okay. I can take directly the question. As Renato explained very clear, the crushing volume that we are already expecting for 2024 is between 5% to 10% more than this year. And regarding the specific amount of sugar that we can produce this quarter that we are announcing today, we produce this 320,000 tons of sugar that is at an absolute record because of all these investments and adjustments that we did that I also just mentioned, doing that, the 4 quarters, I think it's too challenging, mainly because of the amount of sugarcane that we harvest every quarter. The quarter that we are just finishing is usually the more dry quarter of our cycle, being dry means that we can be harvesting and milling all or most of the time. In all the other quarters, it's more difficult to reach that level or that amount of crushing days. That's why I see too challenging, making 320. Can we do 20% less? Yes, I think we can do 20% place by quarter, but we can repeat this same $320 million for the same quarter of the next year. And maybe the previous quarter, the second quarter of the year is also a quarter that is usually more rig. So the 2 -- the semester during winter time is more used for having more sugarcane than the other quarter. That's basically the answer.

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer section. At this time, I would like to turn the floor back to Mr. Bosch for any closing remarks.

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Mariano Bosch
executive

Thank you, everyone, for joining today, and we hope to see you in our next upcoming events. Thank you.

Operator

This concludes today's presentation. You may disconnect at this time, and have a nice day.

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