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Good morning and welcome to the Dick's Sporting Goods' Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Jennifer Mejia, Manager of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss our third quarter 2018 results. On today's call will be Ed Stack, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Lauren Hobart, our President; and Lee Belitsky, our Chief Financial Officer. Today's call will be archived for approximately 30 days on our Investor Relations website located at investors.dicks.com.
As a reminder, we will be making forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from these statements. Any such statements should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements in our earnings release and risk factor discussions in our filings with the SEC, including our last Annual Report on Form 10-K and cautionary statements made during this call.
We assume no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements or information. Please refer to our Investor Relations website at dicks.com to find the reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures referenced in today’s call.
With that, I will now turn the call over to Ed.
Thanks Jen, and good morning everyone. This morning, we reported third quarter earnings per diluted share of $0.39 compared to GAAP earnings per diluted share of $0.35 and non-GAAP earnings per diluted share of $0.30 last year. Adjusted for the calendar shift due to the 53rd week last year our consolidated same-store sales declined 3.9% and our eCommerce business increased 16%. As a percent to total net sales, the online business increased to approximately 12% compared to approximately 10% in the same period last year.
Revenue declined 4.5% to approximately $1.86 billion including the impact of the calendar shift which negatively impacted sales by $41 million. Comp sales were in the range of our expectations for the quarter. As expected, sales were negatively impacted by the continued weakness in hunt and electronics, which contributed to approximately 255 basis points of comp decline. Despite these challenges, we are focused on driving profitable sales and managing our business to deliver higher earnings.
Merchandise margin expanded 213 basis points during the quarter as we benefited from the mix of the sales decline in low-margin hunt and electronics categories, fewer promotions, and improved products cycle. This merchandise margin expansion drove an improvement in gross margin which increased by 72 basis points. Looking ahead, we will continue to optimize our assortment with a stronger emphasis on key items and a renewed focus on the enthusiast athletes.
We remain encouraged by the improved products we're seeing from many of our partners and are optimistic about the pipeline into next year. Our relationships with many of these partners have never been stronger and we will continue to work together to elevate the assortment and presentation at DICK'S. Our private brands continued to grow and are an integral part of our strategy to drive differentiation and exclusivity in our assortment. We've seen great success in expanding our existing brands into new categories and that will be a priority going forward.
We will also be launching new brands. Earlier this quarter we launched the outdoor apparel brand Alpine Design and have been very pleased with the early success. We expect our private brands to continue to deliver growth for us well into the future.
Finally, we continue to reallocate floor space to growth categories in key brands and adapt our product offering to better align with the categories our athletes demand. Late in the third quarter, we removed virtually all hunt products from 10 DICK'S stores where the category underperformed and have replaced it with more compelling assortments in categories such as baseball, licensed products, and outerwear. Though it's too early to discuss performance, we're optimistic these changes will better serve the athletes in these communities.
In closing, we're confident in the future of our business and believe we can strengthen our leadership position going forward. I'd like to thank all of our teammates for their hard work and dedication to this company and for their upcoming efforts during the holiday season.
I'd now like to turn the call over to Lauren.
Thank you, Ed and good morning everyone. As we enter the holiday season and look toward next year, we remain focused on providing an optimized omnichannel experience for our athletes through our three key strategic initiatives. These include improving our core execution, leveraging the power of our expert opinion to deliver a stronger merchandise assortment and presentation, and increasing our productivity.
Beginning with improving our execution we are delivering a better customer experience across our omnichannel platform. In stores, we've driven efficiencies within our processes which have allowed our teammates to spend less time tasking and more time servicing our athletes. We're also providing a stronger experience online by enhancing the functionality of the website and shortening our estimated delivery time.
We're working to deliver eCommerce orders within two business days to the majority of our athletes in the future. To achieve this, we are investing significantly in our fulfillment and delivery capabilities including the creation of dedicated eCommerce fulfillment centers in New York and California. The state-of-the-art facility that we're building in New York will be highly efficient as we invest in robotics to drive automation and reduce labor costs.
We also recently enabled all of our store focused regional distribution centers to fulfill online customer orders. Additionally, we continue to leverage our proximity to our customers by shipping from all of our stores. Next we will continue to deliver a stronger product assortment and leverage the power of our expert opinion to guide and inform athletes to select the right product for them.
From a merchandising perspective, we continue to be pleased with how athletes have responded to our strike point presentations, which showcases key items in a very impactful way throughout the store. An example of this is the new Yeti display that we've incorporated in many of our stores for the holiday season, which is a powerful presentation of that brand. Year-to-date, many of these strike points have resulted in strong double-digit sales growth.
In marketing, we're focused on building an emotional connection with our brand and driving traffic to our stores and our eCommerce site. We're currently running a holiday campaign featuring a family and their ping-pong table through which we show that giving the gift of sport lasts a lifetime and actually has the power to bring families together.
We're also driving digital transformation across all aspects of our marketing, leveraging our vast scorecard and Team Sports HQ datasets to drive traffic with athletes through timely and targeted messaging. And we continue to utilize our strong brand partnerships to drive growth through joint marketing efforts with many of our key vendors.
Finally, we remain focused on increasing our productivity. Across the company, we will have eliminated approximately $25 million of expenses by year-end, much of which has been reinvested in our strategic growth drivers. We will continue to make critical investments to support the long-term growth of our business, particularly in key growth areas such as eCommerce, Team Sports HQ, and our private brands. Improving productivity to help offset some of these investments will be a major priority going forward.
In closing, we remain optimistic that the continued execution of these strategies will lead to stronger results and drive competitive advantage in the marketplace.
I will now turn the call over to Lee to review our financial statements and the outlook in more detail.
Thank you, Lauren and good morning everyone. I'd like to start with a brief overview of our third quarter results. Adjusted for the calendar shift, consolidated same-store sales declined 3.9% including a 16% increase in our eCommerce business. Transactions declined by 5.5% and average ticket increased by 1.6%. Consolidated sales decreased 4.5% to approximately $1.86 billion. This reflects the impact of the calendar shift which negatively impacted sales by $41 million or $0.10 a share in the quarter.
During the quarter our best performing categories included outdoor and athletic apparel which combined for a mid-single-digit comp sales increase and our private brands continued to comp positively with higher penetration as well. Notwithstanding these strengths sales continued to be negatively impacted by double-digit declines in hunt and electronics which contributed approximately 255 basis points to the comp decline as well as weakness in our outdoor equipment.
Specific to hunt, in addition to the strategic decisions we made regarding firearms earlier this year, the broader industry has decelerated and remains weak as evidenced by most recent National Background Check Data. We believe this also contributed to the decline we saw during the quarter.
Gross profit for the third quarter was $523.6 million or 28.19% of net sales, a 72 basis point improvement versus last year. Within gross margin merchandise margin increased 213 basis points and was partially offset by occupancy deleverage and higher freight and shipping and fulfillment costs. The merchandise margin expansion was primarily driven by a favorable merchandise mix, fewer promotions and improved product.
Additionally, a favorable timing shift related to the expense recognition for changes we made to our scorecard loyalty program last year also benefited gross profit by $7 million during the quarter. This shift in timing will negatively impact gross profit by approximately the same dollar amounts during the fourth quarter.
SG&A expense dollars were $468.7 million, 1.5% decline from last year as expense reductions more than offset strategic investments in higher incentive compensation. As a percent of sales, SG&A deleveraged 76 basis points to 25.24%. In total we delivered third quarter earnings per diluted share of $0.39 compared to GAAP earnings per diluted share of $0.35 and non-GAAP earnings per diluted share of $0.30 last year.
Now looking to our balance sheet, we ended the third quarter with approximately $92 million of cash and cash equivalents and $382 million of borrowings on our revolving credit facility. Additionally, our inventory levels increased by 0.8% in the quarter or down 1.2% on a shifted basis as our quarter ended one week closer to Thanksgiving than last year.
Turning to our third quarter capital allocation, net capital expenditures were $28.5 million. We repurchased proximally 3.1 million shares for $108 million at an average price of $35.29. These repurchases are indicative our confidence and long-term prospects for DICK'S Sporting Goods. We also paid approximately $22 million in dividends during the quarter.
Before we move on to our fiscal 2018 financial outlook, given the timing of our call as it relates to the holiday weekend, I'd like to briefly comment on our performance. As we reflect on the Thanksgiving shopping weekend we are very pleased with our results both online and in our stores and we have incorporated the results of the weekend in our guidance.
For the year we continue to expect full year comp sales to decline by 3% to 4% and gross margin to be approximately flat versus last year. As a result of our strong earnings results in Q3 we are raising our full-year earnings per share guidance for the third time this year to $3.15 to $3.25 which represents a $0.25 increase to the high-end versus our original guidance that we gave this year of $2.80 to $3.
Our inventory is clean and well positioned as we enter the holiday season and throughout the fourth quarter we expect to build inventory versus last year to be ready for the important spring businesses. Upon fully executing this strategy we expect inventory levels at the end of the fourth quarter will increase over last year. We will provide fiscal 2019 guidance on our fourth quarter call in March and this concludes our prepared comments.
Thank you for your interest in DICK'S Sporting Goods and operator, you may now open the line for questions.
[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Michael Lasser of UBS. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Lee, can you reconcile your comments about being pleased with your holiday shopping results online and in stores with your guidance that calls for basically a 3% to 4% comp decline in the fourth quarter, is that – were comments about the holiday shopping period so far or at least the last week or so an indication that you are seeing performance that’s in line with what you are guiding to for the fourth quarter?
So you know, our guidance that we gave for the full year coming out of the third quarter was negative 3% to 4% and we're sticking with that negative 3% to 4% for the full year. We are pleased with the results coming out of the weekend, but we did have very favorable week -- very favorable weather for us which helped drive some of our weather-sensitive businesses. I'm not sure if that's going to hold up all the way through Christmas right now. So, we're pleased with the results, but there is a long way to go.
Okay, and my followup question is, so hunting and activity trackers accounted for a little bit more than half of your comp decline in the quarter, what was driving the weakness in outdoor equipment and how did the footwear category perform, and based on the answers to that and I know it's early, but is it reasonable to expect that the business can comp positive in 2019 totality?
Well, with respect to the footwear business, the overall footwear business was about even for the quarter. Some of the equipment businesses, particularly outdoor equipment they – the comp sales were down, some of that driven a little bit by weather and probably some of it driven by some of the firearms customers that we have also involved with the outdoor equipment and camp categories and so on that slowed that business down a bit as we started to see during the second and into the third quarter as well.
Again, our view for next year really hasn’t changed on that. Our apparel business has been gathering momentum. Footwear business is decent right now, and as we anniversary the hunt business, you know the changes we made there, the electronics business, and some more of the Under Armour pieces from the early part of last year, our view hasn’t changed and we think that the vast majority of these headwinds will diminish, and we'll be in a better position to drive more favorable comps.
Okay, thank you very much and good luck with the rest of the holiday.
Thanks.
The next question comes from Simeon Gutman of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Thanks, good morning guys. My first question is, in the second quarter, you left us with the impression that ex-the hunt and electronics and I don’t want to say the brand because I'm not sure you'll comment on it specifically, but I think ex-Under Armour, the business was running somewhere in positive territory. I think that's what Michael is, I think, trying to get to. Can you share a similar number, so if we take – you know you take out the piece that hunt and electronic hurt this quarter, and then maybe take out if it’s the Under Armour drag or not, what would the core categories have done in the third quarter, and how does it compare on a run rate basis?
We said that -- we said our comps were what they were and the hunt piece accounted for a big portion of that. We think the outdoor category, which is a spillover to the hunt businesses is a portion of that too. We didn’t call Under Armour out this time although the sales were still pretty soft in Under Armour. We had been able to plan for that and we offset the apparel categories this – in the third quarter as we had talked about we were mid-single-digit comps in the apparel categories between the outerwear categories and the athletic categories.
Got it okay. And would it be fair to leave with an impression that sort of the underlying business looks about the same and may be slightly a little better if I include what happened over Black Friday, granted it's a promotional weekend, but it sounds like you were pleased and I'm assuming the complexion of what you're pleased with shows that some of the things you're doing are gaining traction?
That would be accurate.
Okay and my followup, it's kind of similar to the last question, look the margin profile of the business looks pretty good, right, electronic and hunt will be almost out of way, inventory looks okay. As we head into next year, Ed or Lee, do you feel stronger about the margin profile of the business or about the sales position?
You know what Simeon, we've never commented going forward, so as Lee indicated and I don’t mean to dodge your question, I just want to be consistent with what we've done in the past is that we’ll guide next year at our fourth quarter call. But as I said I said in my comments and Lauren said in hers, we're optimistic about our business.
No problem, understood. Thanks and good luck.
Thanks.
Okay, thanks.
The next question comes from Chris Horvers of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
Thanks, good morning. So a couple of questions, first on the hunt side, I guess how was the impact relative to where you thought, I mean the thought process being as that customer comes back are they remembering the decisions and the publicity around the spring such that the business got worse or is that more a function of you know the business stayed the same but maybe the industry got worse?
Well, the industry is difficult and you can see that from the NICS checks and some of the other things going on in the industry, but the comps were kind of overall, kind of in the zone of what we anticipated. So we didn’t have it, let's put it this way, from a sales standpoint, we didn’t have a surprise.
And the one thing on the hunt side in the fall, the penetration of the hunt business has doubled in the fall of what it is in the spring, so the third and fourth quarter about even and first and second quarter about even, it's about doubled in the fall over to spring. So, it has a bigger drag on the business in Q3 and Q4 just based on the size of the business.
Yes, and then presumably electronics went up in the fourth quarter, goes up in the fourth quarter on a mix basis relative to the rest of the year. So this is combined hunt and electronics headwind, is that more significant in sort of versus the 255 basis points that you just quoted on 3Q?
A little bit.
Yes a little bit, I mean yes it is a little bit more, but as we said we bake that all into our guidance and we think it's still going to be negative 3% to negative 4% and we raised our EPS guidance.
Got it and then the last piece is, the SG&A trend, I mean if you look at the SG&A dollars relative to history sequentially year-over-year, this was a sort of a – looked like a big shift versus what we would have expected. So was there anything unique in there and is this the new trend that we should sort of build out SG&A also going forward?
You know, we've been working hard throughout the year to reduce our SG&A expenses and some of that involves like contract negotiations that have a little bit of a longer tail from when they negotiate to when it gets implemented so on, but the short answer is, we believe we're going into a new period of better expense management going forward and what we saw in the third quarter is very strong performance on expenses a little bit of it is driven by the calendar shift in that we have a little bit less payroll expense and a little bit less marketing expense due to the calendar shift, but a lot of it is due to better expense management overall and we expect that to continue going forward. There are not a lot of onetime items in there that will go away.
Understand. Have a great holiday.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Thank you.
The next question is from Seth Sigman of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.
Hey guys, thanks for taking the questions. So, my first question is on the merchandise margins up over 210 basis points, obviously you recouped a lot of the decline from last year, but the offsets this quarter through occupancy and fulfillment costs, it seemed to be greater than prior quarters. Now some of that may be lower comps, but I'm just wondering are you seeing greater pressure from eCommerce and fulfillment? And then as I look out over the next couple of quarters or so as you lap the merchandise margin recovery that we saw this year, I'm just wondering does that imply less upside coming from gross margin looking out? Thanks.
Yes, the one thing to consider in looking at the gross profit is once again it's the calendar shift because we have in Q3 due to the calendar shift we've kind of lost $40 million in sales and that's $40 million less that we can leverage against our occupancy expense and our fixed distribution expenses. So that's a piece of it and that will continue to be a concern in the fourth quarter as well as we have another similar reduction in sales and we have 13 weeks against 14 weeks coming in.
So that's affecting it and the other piece of that is the higher penetration of eCommerce sales so from about 10% penetration at 12%, that's a lower gross margin business for us primarily because of the delivery expenses associated with the eCommerce business. So it's a lower SG&A structure there and it's a higher cost of goods sold structure in eCommerce. So as we do higher penetration of the business in eCom, that dynamic will change on the P&L as well.
And Lee, can you just quantify how much did that week shift impact the gross margins specifically?
So it was $0.10 a share was the impact overall and that's mostly gross profit dollars, still there is a little bit SG&A in there which is mostly gross profit dollars.
Okay and my follow up question is around the reallocation of square footage that you're testing here, you’re taking space away from outdoor. I know it's too early to talk about the sales lift, but I'm just curious the categories that you are giving more square footage to, I guess what is it about those categories, the demand trends in those categories is it stronger, did they not have enough space previously or the higher margin, just how do we think about that strategy to reallocate square footage? Thanks.
It's a little bit of everything. So we talked about the outdoor business, we talked about the licensed business that the team license business and also the baseball business. We think there's a big opportunity from a baseball standpoint that's a business that's growing pretty significantly primarily at the expense of football as the football business has declined, the baseball business in soccer has picked that up. It is in all of these businesses there are significantly higher margin business than the hunt business.
Now I just want to it's a bit of semantics when you said you're taking business out of outdoor we look at it oh they were taking business out of hunt, but the outdoor categories if you take a look at camp, paddle sports, that we're not taking space out of those categories, it's only the hunt category.
Got it. All right, thank you.
Sure.
The next question is from Kate McShane of Citi. Please go ahead.
Hi good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just with regards to the fourth quarter and holiday, could you talk a little bit about your approach or promotions and traffic drivers given that inventory is a lot tighter and the categories are a lot healthier versus last year?
Yes, we see that the - our inventory is in great shape. We don't see needing to be as promotional. We've got to more exclusive product, the product cycle is a terrific product cycle that's out there right now, so we see this being much less promotional this year than it was last year which is one of the reasons we're able to continue to increase our guidance.
Okay, that’s helpful. Thank you. And then with regards to footwear, it sounds like it was flat during the quarter on a comp basis. Was that in line with your plans given the level of newer innovation that you're seeing from the brands? And can you talk at all about how your full service footwear stores are doing compared to the rest of the chains?
Yes. So we won't give specific guidance on the full service footwear chains, but we're very pleased with that, we’re continuing to gain momentum in those areas between Access, et cetera, and the sales were primarily flat and primarily because our inventory was probably too low in that in the key back-to-school time. We have been under inventory there and we’re fixing that going forward into this quarter and into next quarter.
Was that a function of just how you planned or was it because it is harder to get your hands on inventory this period of footwear?
It was a planning piece and a strategy piece which has been rectified.
Thank you.
The next question is from Robbie Ohmes of Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning guys. Ed, I was wondering if you could, I was wondering if you could talk about you know the investments in the new eCommerce DCs and maybe walk us through how you think about buy online pick up in store versus shipping from store versus automated putting up these two new facilities that are going to be very automated and are online only. Just how to - maybe paint us the picture of where ultimately you see your omnichannel business shaking out?
Well, I think that, these are all important distribution points, the consumer as we all know wants their product how they want it, when they want it and delivered in the way that they want it and this just gives us all the options to be able to do that. We feel that the investments we're making from a omnichannel fulfillment center in New York and California will get us to the customer because we have to do a better job of working on speed to customer and Lauren has been heading this up, so I'm going to let her kind of answer the balance of the question here.
Yes, I would just say Robbie we've been very focused on improving our speed and speed to customer we’ve made small gains this year, but our goal is to get to the vast majority of our customers within two days and to do that we just need to make sure that we have the right inventory in the right place around the country. We're leveraging our entire store network and we're building these mini fulfillment centers and larger fulfillment centers so that we can take the speed question sort of off the table.
And let me just add one more thing to it. With these fulfillment centers, we’re able to carry a larger assortment than what we carry in stores so it allows us to keep orders together. They're more efficient than the stores, the automated facilities are more efficient and as labor costs go up that efficiency is going to be important to us and we expect to continue to have significant growth in our eCommerce business over time.
And while we're not looking at real meaningful growth in our store count we're already doing a tremendous amount to ship from store orders from our stores and we're concerned with keeping those stores in stock and as our eCcommerce business continues to grow, we want to keep that kind of ship from store business relatively level within our stores so we can stay in stock for the walk-in customers. So we got a number of reasons from speed to quality, delivery to efficiency, to staying in stock in stores, there are multiple reasons why we've got to add it, why we're adding couple of distribution centers.
That's helpful and just a quick followup, when you look through Black Friday and Cyber Monday any color on just the balance of was Digital much stronger or less strong relative to store traffic, you know any kind of thought on how the shift is playing out?
Well, I mean we're very pleased with both channels which we've said, but as Lee said, it was the coldest Thanksgiving in a long time which really played into our strengths, but we're pleased with both online and stores.
That's great, thanks so much.
Thank you.
The next question is from Peter Benedict of Baird. Please go ahead.
Hi guys, thanks. Ed, you mentioned improved product cycle a couple of times here, can you just expand on that, where is that most pronounced and then talk about maybe the sustainability as you look out into next year, what are you seeing?
I think there is some great - I mean Nike has got some great products coming out, we’re extremely pleased with Nike on both the footwear side and the apparel side. We're pleased on the hard line side around golf with what we see with Callaway and Tailormade going forward.
We're happy with what's going on with some baseball products, we see - we've just got a pretty good lifecycle. Yeti is still doing very well for us, they've got some new innovation out there, Hydro Flask is doing very well, so we're just pleased with the products that we see out there today.
And not to mention what we're doing with our own products with - whether it be Clear, what we're doing in the fitness products, we're going to be launching a new brand next fall which we haven't really announced exactly what it's going to be, but we think it's going to be one of the biggest private brands we have. So we're pretty enthusiastic about the product cycle out there both from the brands and what we're doing internally.
That’s very helpful. So on the space allocation comments, you had there, two questions, one Lee, Yeti said is that's something that is just a holiday increase or is that something that persists after the holiday and then are you considering removing hunt from more than just those 10 stores, is there a certain basket of stores out there that could be, that could make sense for as you look out into next year?
So the answer to the first question on Yeti, yes this is something we plan to continue into next year, so we bought it that way. We think our team, our merchandising team, store team, visual team all worked together have put together we think probably the best Yeti display in the country and we're very pleased with that.
And as it relates to the 10 store test, we'll have to wait and see how the 10 store test does, early reaction is we're pretty pleased but it's too early to make any conclusions. But we are looking at a number of stores where the Hunt business significantly under performs and we will assess whether we want to take it out and replace it with these other categories, if that ends up to be a smart thing to do from a business standpoint.
That makes sense, one last one for Lee, just on the merchandise margin as we think about the fourth quarter, you guys talked about probably a less promotional position here, there's been a favorable start to the season, presumably mix should be favorable. How should we think about the improvement in merchant margin relative to maybe the cadence we saw here in the third quarter, could it be similar or should we not be expecting that much improvement?
I would not expect as much improvement in Q4 as we had in Q3 because Q3 last year we were really very aggressive markdowns we weren’t as aggressive in Q4 last year, so the compare from merchant margin perspective for us is a little more difficult in Q4.
Okay, great. Thanks guys.
Thank you.
The next question is from Mike Baker of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Hi, you guys - it sounds like you're doing a lot of investments in eCommerce, how does that impact your P&L next year? Is it going to be an SG&A impact would that preclude you from growing your margins next year?
Well Mike, we're not giving guidance on the operating margins for next year. You're right, we're going to continue invest in eCcommerce a lot of it is in fulfillments in the back half of the year next year. So those investments will be mostly in CapEx and then will be some in gross margin as we open up those buildings in the fall, not much on the SG&A side.
Okay. And then secondly, any update on what you're thinking regarding your fulfillment stream stores now that we're another hunt season?
Well, we're not through that. Excuse me the specific answer to your question is we haven't made any decisions yet and we are just we haven't got through the hunt season, the hunt season is an important season in the fourth quarter too as big game season opens up and lot of really high penetration hunting markets in the Northeast here in Pennsylvania, so we still have a little ways to go before we make a decision.
Okay, one more quick one, any impact on the Red Sox winning the World Series, I have to get that one in there?
Well, as a Yankee fan I was disappointed, but no really, it was not a real big impact. We were pleased with it, but Boston has won so many championships out of the last 15 years that it's getting to be expected, so you don't get as big a jump out of Boston as we once did.
Overall though, I'd say a little bit smaller than Houston but not material to the overall results for the quarter.
Okay, I appreciate it. Thank you.
Okay, thanks.
The next question is from David Schick of Consumer Edge Research. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. I just wanted to go back and sort of clarify I understand something a little bit better. You've talked a lot about baseball and the opportunity there and some of the product cycle things you like with the pathway into 2019, but Ed as you started the call you said a renewed focus on the enthusiast athlete. I just want to go back to that is that baseball or do you see that in other sports and that would be more of a top line or margin sort of mix opportunity?
We think it's a bit of both, sales and a margin opportunity and going back to this enthusiast athlete, we've kind of lost some of the product for that enthusiast athlete and we're going back and reinvesting in that and baseball is an example. In six of the ten stores that we redid taking hunt out be put in a batting cage and hit tracks which were off the first piece so to speak, we're pretty pleased with and it's a place where a young man or a young woman can come in and swing a bat, it's similar to trackman in golf, where they can measure their bat speed, the ball speed coming off the bat, the angle of attack, gives them a tremendous amount of information about how they're hitting the ball.
And we could actually fit them with the best bat for them. And so, and an enthusiast athlete wants that product. And these baseball bats are now we're moving into some categories that are $300, $400, $500 for these bats. We'll last year we had a bat display of rough were last year we had a bat display of roughly 30 linear feet we're going to have 80 linear feet of bats this year of and more enthusiastic display of baseball gloves with the 82,000 art of the hide.
In the outdoor category we're going to have from a kayaking standpoint we're moving our, the quality in the enthusiast level kayaks we will have kayaks that will be in that higher price points and we've kind of reduced the investment in the marketing in these better products for the enthusiast athlete. And we're making a big change in that going forward into next year which is why when we talked about that inventory at the end of the fourth quarter will be above last year that's because we're making these investments in this product to service this enthusiast athlete going forward and we want to be ready for spring.
That's very helpful. Would some of those technology sort of in-store experiences would you think about those and soccer and basketball as well I know some of that's out there.
I'm not sure we wouldn't basketball right now but in soccer, yes.
Okay, thanks.
Sure.
The next question is from Brian Nagel of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. So I wanted to focus on sales as well and Ed just wonder if sales week, at least had my sales number week a while, so articulate what are moving parts here particularly with categories like hunting and electronics but as you look deeper the numbers, how would you track my market share standpoint in some of your key categories?
We actually think that we're picking up market share in a lot of the categories. We think we're picking up market share in golf, in the team sports category. There's a number of ones where we think we're picking up market share, we're pretty enthusiastic going forward.
And then this is maybe a follow up to that, I mean overall in the competitive environment, clearly there's been a significant shakeout within your segment that we're lapping past that now, but competitive with, how do you view competition right now physical store standpoint, what's happening with the manufacturers and some of their direct to consumer efforts? Thanks.
I'm not sure I understand the question Michael.
Well no, I guess somebody asked me maybe quick, how competition is stage right now and it's that's been competition has been an issue for a while, it seems like maybe it's subsiding. I mean due to a globe isn’t the competition more severe at this point?
Well, I think it's better competition, so I mean obviously what the brands are doing. And I'll come back to that, but the brands are more competitive and the, what Amazon's doing is certainly they are clearly our number one competitor. And then you've got academy and a few people like that, so as the competition has gotten maybe less competitors, but the competition is better than it was in the past.
I think the piece with the branches somebody will private me about this, but I think the brand is competitors is a bit overblown as it relates to us in a few other key retailers because the brands are very helpful in trying to drive our online business, they're very helpful to let us know what's going on their business on line. We share information. I wish the brands weren't going direct, but they're also very helpful trying to drive our business online and there's a real partnership there with a vast majority of the brands.
Also Brian, I want to just reflect a little bit more on your market share question. With respect to the apparel business being up mid single digits this quarter, it's - we're in a pretty strong apparel cycle overall and some of our competitors have been pretty strong in that space as well, but I think we're at least holding our own in the apparel space right now and we're doing that overcoming kind of the Under Armour situation that we're dealing with. So we think we're doing well on the apparel front.
Alright, thanks for the clarity. I appreciate it.
Thanks Brian.
Thanks.
The next question is from Tom Nikic of Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Hey good morning everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to follow up on Under Armour a little bit. Ed on the last couple of calls you've spoken about how you feel like, the pipeline coming out of Baltimore is a little bit better. Could you just sort of give us any updates on your thoughts on the Under Armour pipeline and also your thoughts around your channel differentiation for that brand and if you think that you're seeing better differentiation there? Thanks.
I think we're seeing better going forward as it relates to us. We’ve worked with Under Armour, we think things with Under Armour in our stores are getting better. We're enthusiastic about some of the plans we've got with Under Armour going forward and we think the vast majority of this headwind will be behind us as we come out of the first quarter or of next year. So we're enthusiastic about some meaningful parts of the Under Armour business.
All right and one followup just on the cost side obviously retail wages you know there's been a lot of inflation there in the last couple of years and how should we think about you know wage inflation for you guys and in-store staffing levels and just the general sort of labor costs for your business?
There is wage pressure for sure and it's going to continue. We've got that baked in to obviously what we're talking about for the fourth quarter and we're layering it into our budget for next year which we'll talk about at the end of the quarter, but there's definite wage pressure.
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Alright, thanks very much. Best of luck for holiday.
Thank you.
Thank you
The next question is from Omar Saad of Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask a couple of questions on digital. Last year you announced the new technology offer you need to lead the tech efforts with love and update on kind of some of the changes and opportunities you've made and opportunities these changes you have guys made. I think you recently relaunched the new web platform, maybe help us understand what some of the new capabilities are there, how you're tied into the app, maybe just deeper kind of update on what's going on digitally to you guys? Thanks.
We are incredibly pleased with how we're doing from a digital standpoint both from a technology standpoint in terms of we mentioned last Q4 that we had had, you know we were digesting the new platform, we had launched in January of last year and that peak volumes in Q4 we had had some issues last year. The technology team under Paul's leadership has worked incredibly hard to make the site incredibly resilient and stable which is a gift that keeps on giving and then in terms of speed of the site experience, checkout has been improved and we think we have much more runway to go still to make the site an even better customer experience.
As we mentioned we're working on the filming aspect of it the entire system and the entire company is working on a digital first approach and I would say that's beyond technologies in the eCommerce team, it’s in the marketing team where we're still spending significant amounts of our marketing investment in the digital channels to help drive both brick and mortar and the eCommerce sites, so digital is an enormous focus and we’re very pleased with the product set.
Okay, that’s helpful and one followup if I may, any update on the Rock Shoe? We've seen Under Armour doing a lot of content in the digital ecosystems talking about shoe, I think it's exclusive for you guys, but maybe you could just give us an update how you're thinking about that product?
Well, so we're not going to give specific to a particular product like that but we're pleased with that and we think that there is a lot of runway in that shoe in the rock.
Is it exclusive Ed?
It is not completely exclusive, there are some other people that have it, I mean Under Armour has it on their site, but we're a big player in that.
Got it. Thanks, good luck for holiday.
Thank you.
The next question is from Scott Ciccarelli of RBC. Please go ahead.
Hey, thanks for taking my question. This is actually Jonathan Livers on for Scott. Good morning. I was wondering given the CapEx guidance has come down significantly, I was wondering if you could give some color around maybe your store strategy 4Q and then just generally how you're thinking about it going into the next year? Thanks.
Well we did bring down the CapEx forecast from $225 million to $165 million. There is about $40 million of timing differences in there where we thought we were going to get to some of those items kind of in the latter part of the fourth quarter and that may have now look like they're going into the first quarter and it's about $20 million of savings there.
With respect to new store openings, we had guided some time ago that we would continue the slow pace of new store openings we expect that to continue into next year, so most of our CapEx going into next year are going to be around eCommerce fulfillment technology and more generally technology around the eCommerce space, as well as some kind of refix stream programs that we do in our stores.
Got it. That is very helpful and just a quick followup if I could on the point you're making around eCommerce fulfillment, is there a scenario in the future where you perhaps are no longer shipping from stores for eCommerce orders or is it always is there always going to be some mix? Thanks.
Yes, this is Lauren. We believe we will always have some mix and getting that balance right is important. It is - allows us to open up our entire inventory to all of our customers and maximize availability, so it's not something that we see going away.
Also we get into the peak holiday seasons, it allows us to maintain the shorter shipping windows as we get these big surges of business between Thanksgiving and Cyber Monday that it's hard to handle out of a couple of buildings, so having all seven or having all 800 locations shipping allows to get the orders to the customers faster.
Understood, thank you very much and good luck this holiday season.
Thank you.
The next question is from Sam Poser of Susquehanna. Please go ahead.
Thank you for taking my questions, most have been answered. I do want to ask you about your sort of like how you're handling some of the more in apparels, some of the more fashion versus function, apparel, because a lot of these sort of Heritage brands are coming back but wanted to see if you were participating in that?
We are with some, so I mean the champion brand has been great, we've got the champion brand and it's been terrific, we think that will grow pretty significantly going forward. We've got some work that we're doing with Puma. I know that we're not doing a lot right now but the team is talking with Fila, so there is a fashion component of this that we will play in. We will be careful with the fashion side, we're really focused on that that authentic enthusiast athlete as we've always been, but that are that athletes looking for a little bit more fashion product that we've got it from those brands. And then Nike, Adidas, we are really happy about the assortment we see coming in from Nike going forward.
Thank you. And then just two other just housekeeping, what share count do you have sort of assume in the guidance now and secondly what's the tax rate that you have that's in the guidance?
Hold on a moment. Sam, could we follow up with you on that and I'll call a little bit later.
Sure, thank you.
Yes, no problem.
The next question is from Joe Feldman of Telsey Advisory Group. Please go ahead.
Yes, hi guys. Good morning. I wanted to ask you about tariffs I guess, are you seeing any impact there or how are you planning for it and is that why your inventory did you accelerate some inventory because of the constraints on the freight coming overseas or anything related to that would be helpful?
It’s a little bit of accelerated freight coming in for January, is not really much of anything to speak of for the November quarter. As of right now, the tariffs are concentrated in our hard lines areas that we have got and there's been some devaluation of the Yuan since tariffs have announced and we're going to attack in a number of different ways, we've got some little bit better pricing we can get out of China to offset some of that and we'll be negotiating with our vendors to absorb some of that and some that will come through and we will have to in some cases raise our prices to our customers along the way. But that will play out over the course of the year or next year and it's kind of hard to determine what impact it will have right now on sales or profitability at this point.
And can you remind us what your exposure is to the current tariffs?
A - Edward Stack
We haven't specifically guided to that, a lot of that has to do with how our brands are going to handle it, we obviously know about it with respect to our own private brands and what we've got there and it's not based on the tariffs that are in place right now, it's not meaningful for next year for us but again it's going to come down to negotiations with the brands in the factories going forward to determine the impact.
That’s helpful, thanks. And if I could followup with one other one, given what you have been removing with the hunt category and I understand the expansion of some of those other baseball and team sports or license apparel and it maybe too early to say this, but are you guys rethinking the box at all like in terms of the size of the box or are you still pretty comfortable with it and maybe you just flex the different categories to still fill it and you still get the productivity that you would normally get out of that box?
We feel pretty comfortable with the box that we have the size of the box we have right now and as we take out the hunt piece and test this, there were categories that we felt were constrained such as the team sports area, baseball is one of particular, the license business is another category that we feel that we've got a big upside with that we just haven't been able to provide enough space to in key cold weather markets northern markets that outerwear category we think we've got the ability to expand there and provide a better offering to the athletes in that category. So well to answer your question, we're comfortable with the size of the box.
Okay, thank you and good luck with this Holiday period. Thanks.
Thank you.
The next question is from Matt McClintock of Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hi yes, good morning everyone and thanks for taking my question. Ed, I was wondering if we could focus on CALIA for a second because it's been a couple of years or several years now of pretty positive comments that you've given to the brand and as we look forward now after several years of that type of growth, what are the main growth drivers for the brand, is it expanded assortment, is it new innovation, is it better style or is it just increased brand awareness? Thanks.
There's a whole bunch of we continue to be really excited about the CALIA and the genesis of CALIA was really from Lauren and her team I'm going to let her kind of answer that question for you.
Yes, CALIA has been an incredible success story and we have been talking about it and we keep finding new ways to grow the brand, it's been getting into new categories, we have plans in the future to keep going in terms of expansion of the type of products that we drive and we think the brand relevancy also just continues to grow. And as a heavy user of the product myself the product itself has been loved by people who wear it and so it's doing its own job of just driving incredible loyalty you should give it as gift and you will see, so it's a fabulous product, it is a fabulous product.
Thank you very much for the color.
The next question is from John Kernan of Cowen. Please go ahead.
All right, good morning guys. Thanks for squeezing me and taking my question.
No problem.
Lauren, can you talk to the driver, what would drive the operating margin on the eCommerce business higher and more in line with stores at this point. We know its gross margins a little I'm just wondering as you make investments in fulfillment in other areas is there an opportunity for this rapidly growing part of your business to become more profitable?
Yes, there absolutely is and we're working on profitability part of the reason for taking the site in-house was that we control our experience and the other part was that we get much more leverage as we grow and so we are very focused on eCom profitability. There are shift as we mentioned earlier in terms of where expense goes into gross margin versus SG&A, but overall we look at this business as highly profitable, increasing in profitability and we do maintain a really indifferent look when we look between store sales and eCom sales, we don't have a preference for where they come in.
Okay and then Lee just a follow up on the CapEx question, it sounds like there are some shifts out of this year into next year, but can you help us understand what you think is a steady run rate or maintenance CapEx level going forward as store growth slows because obviously going from where you were last year to where you're guiding this year it's a big boost to free cash flow. You could be generating almost for over $400 million of cash for this year, so I'm just wondering is this CapEx run rate going forward more sustainable?
Yes, it’s probably a little bit low this year, but it's much closer this year's levels than certainly last year.
Got it. Alright, thank you.
The next question is from Adrienne Yih of Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thanks for taking my question as well. I was wondering if you could talk about the real estate portfolio actually just in general real rent over the next year, how many lease actions do you actually have coming up over the next three years so just trends on that line item? And then similarly with regard to cost inflation on trade pressure are you seeing, during the fourth quarter and then heading into first quarter increases in shipping and air rates?. Thank you very much.
Okay, so we have 80 to 100 store leases coming due each year that we have options on, so we have a very aggressive process required to manage those costs down and with that many stores we've got a lot of opportunity there. With respect to freight rates we have seen meaningful increases in freight rate. We do very little in air freight, so it really doesn't impact us much, but we have seen increases in particularly on the inbound freight side not so much on the outbound side because we've got dedicated fleets there, but the inbound we have experienced those increase, expect those to carry into next year.
Okay, great thank you very much and then really quickly what percent of orders are currently on the free two day shipping ?
Yes we got a significant amount, very large more than half.
Okay, great. Thank you very much and best of luck.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Thanks.
The next question is from Jim Duffy of Stifel. Please go ahead.
Hi, this is Peter McGoldrick on for Jim. Thanks for taking my questions. I was curious on the traffic and ticket breakdown, are you able to give any further detail between the split between retail and eCommerce? You had mentioned being pleased with store traffic, is there any sequential improvement here?
We haven't broken that down in the past, so we won't be doing that today either.
Fair enough, how about on marketing as you invest in digital marketing as a traffic driver does that primarily benefit site traffic to the site or is that a story of the traffic driver as well
Absolutely we look to digital to drive both traffic to the site and to the stores and we measure all of our returns on an omni basis, so people at different points in the shopping funnel are doing different things in digital and some of them are doing research that ultimately ends up in a store purchase and we are very focused on the omni return of that channel.
Okay, thank you and if I could just for one more on the merch margin expansion, you called out improved products is the driver and could you give any further detail on this excluding hunt and electronics? Is this a function of pricing against easier compares or is there something that you can build on in the future?
We think the product cycle is very good going forward, so we think it's something we can build on going forward.
Alright, thank you.
The next question comes from Camilo Lyon of Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for taking our questions. This is [indiscernible] on for Camilo. Ed, and since you have launched your own outdoor brand have you shifted any floor space between the brands based on the number of stores this brand is available in and the initial positive response that you have seen from the consumer?
Yes, we're pleased with the response we've seen so far. This is primarily and some, it's we didn't launch this to the all stores. It's in a limited number of stores to test, I'm not sure exactly how many, but roughly a 100 or so 90 to 100 stores or so, and they were mostly bigger square footage stores, so it was easy to kind of move those in there. We're very pleased with it and we think it will be a bigger part of our business going forward to next year.
Thanks for that and then my second question is on the private label brand launch you mentioned earlier for next year, can you provide any more color on I think you mentioned fitness can you provide any more color on the category and the type of product that you'll be launching?
Not at this time, but we'll talk more about either at the first quarter call or second quarter call.
Thanks and good luck for the rest of the holiday season.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The next question is from Chris Svezia of Wedbush. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning everyone. Thanks for taking the question. I guess first just on the, just to clarify the electronic category, you still are anticipating out of that at the end of the fourth quarter or so going to next year it's no longer a headwind is that true?
It will be really small, but the headwind will subside pretty significantly.
Okay, I guess Lee for you, just on the merchandise margin just to clarify something, the mix component related to the clients in hunt and to the clients in electronics, can you any way you can quantify that more specifically is to what that's doing to your merchandise margin or maybe rank and priority or just maybe how we isolate that one specific dynamic against the other bucket in merchandise margin?
I mean that's an important aspect of the growth in merchandise margin for us between that and reduced promotions that's really what's driving merchandise margin.
I talked about last quarter though that those that hunt category is roughly 700 basis points below the company average.
Okay, so it's fair to say that it's a pretty significant piece of the merchandise margin improvement so far this year.
I don’t know if I would say a pretty significant piece, but it's meaningful but we've had a lot we've had margin expansion in number of categories that are go forward categories.
Right, okay and last question I have is just, I know there is a lot of moving pieces here, but when you step back and look at the leverage point in the business, I remember back in the day it used to be 10% sales growth you can leverage occupancy, I know a lot has changed here, but what kind of metric or how should we look at the leverage point on occupancy and SG&A is that two comp positive, is at one comp or just kind of what metrics or how we should think about that as we move forward? That will be helpful.
You know it's, you can see the SG&A expenses were down for the quarter. I won’t expect them to be down every quarter, but it's much, I would say we're in that low still low single digits range.
So low single digit positive comp you begin to leverage the occupancy in SG&A of the company in total is it fair?
Company in total, yes.
Okay, alright understood. Okay, thank you very much and all the best around holiday.
Thank you. You too.
And the last question today is from the Steve Forbes of Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.
Good morning. I wanted to focus on the implied 4Q gross margin. I think you mentioned flat for the year, so maybe if you can just speak to the magnitude or the change right and some of the pressure as you anticipate offsetting what we think will be ongoing merchandise margin expansion in the 4Q or quarter any color on that would be helpful?
Well, what we've got in the fourth quarter as we have one fewer week and we have a calendar shift both working against us, so we have about $145 million less in sales due to those two factors to offset the fixed cost and rent and within our distribution network as well. So that's a significant drag for us. And then we obviously were forecasting comps to be down as well which are kind of de-leveraging. And the last piece is the eCommerce business becomes a much bigger part of the overall business for us in the fourth quarter and that has a lower margin profile primarily due to the delivery expense.
So all those three factors work against us in a much bigger way in the fourth quarter than they did earlier in the year. As a matter of fact the calendar shift was favorable for us in the first six months of the year that was favorable from a fixed cost leverage perspective with regard to gross profit. So that's turning around with the fourth quarter being the biggest item. So those are the two, those are the main drags that we've got there.
And then the last piece of it is the - working against us is the change in timing of the scorecard rewards, the expiration of the points there. So we picked up about $7 million of merch margin there in Q3 and that's going to reverse in Q4 and be about $7 million going the other way. So we've got a lot of, kind of I'm going to call them calendar and sort of structural headwinds that are kind of fourth quarter only kind of items that we've got.
They don’t really - are not indicative of anything going forward and some of that benefit again we picked up in the first half of the year which we had called out some of the benefit we've picked up in the third quarter. So we don't think there's anything structurally wrong with the gross margin rates for the fourth quarter, it's just all has to do with timing.
And then just a quick followup on private brand penetration, can you help us with where that rate, the penetration rate is running year-to-date and then just remind us how private brand penetration differs by quarter if it does?
So we're not going to get into that level of granularity by quarter, but our penetration continues to increase. We're happy with our private brands, but for competitive reasons to get too much more granular than that, we're not going to go into it.
Thank you.
Great, thanks.
This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ed Stack for closing remarks.
I'd like to thank everyone for joining us on the call today and look forward to talking to you about our fourth quarter results. Thank you.
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