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Good day, and welcome to the DXC Technology, Third Quarter FY ’18 Earnings Call. Today’s call is being recorded. At this time I would like to turn the conference over Mr. Jonathan Ford, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead sir.
Thank you and good afternoon everyone. I am pleased you are joining us for the DXC Technology, third quarter fiscal 2018 earnings call. Our speakers on today's call will be Mike Lawrie, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Paul Saleh, our Chief Financial Officer.
The call is being webcast at dxc.com/investorrelations and we posted slides to our website which will accompany the discussion today.
Slide two explains that the discussion will include comparisons of our results for the third quarter of fiscal 2018 to our pro forma combined company results for the third quarter of fiscal 2017. The pro forma results are based on the historical quarterly statements of operations of each of CSC and the legacy Enterprise Services business of HPE or HPES, giving effect to the merger as if it had been consummated on April 2, 2016.
As a consequence of CSC and HPES having different fiscal year-end dates, the pro forma combined company results include the results of operations of CSC for the three and nine months ending December 30, 2016 and of HPES for the three and nine months ending October 31, 2016.
Slide three and four as our participant, the DXC Technology's presentation includes certain non-GAAP financial measures and certain further adjustment to these measures, which we believe provide useful information to our investors.
In accordance with SEC rules, we have provided a reconciliation of these measures to their respective and most directly comparable GAAP measures. These reconciliations can be found in the tables included in today's earnings release, as well as in our supplemental slides. Both documents are available on the Investor Relations section of our website.
On slide four you'll see that certain comments we make on the call will be forward-looking. These statements are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed on the call.
A discussion of risk and uncertainties is included in our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and other SEC filings. I would like to remind our listeners that DXC Technology assumes no obligation to update the information presented on the call, except as required by law.
And now I’d like to introduce DXC Technology's Chairman, President and CEO, Mike Lawrie.
Okay, thank you everyone and thanks for your interest in DXC. I know there is a lot going on today. As is my custom I will share four or five key points and then Paul will go into a little more detail and then we’ll open it up to any of your questions.
Third quarter non-GAAP EPS was $2.15, adjusted EBIT was $927 million and adjusted EBIT margin was 15% and we generated $686 million of adjusted free cash flow in the third quarter.
Our revenue in the third quarter was $6.186 billion on a GAAP basis. All revenue comparisons exclude the impact of purchase price accounting and a one-time contract reset USPS last year. And on that basis revenue was down 4% year-over-year and was up 0.6% sequentially and in constant currency revenue was down 5.9% year-over-year and was up 0.8% sequentially.
Sequential revenue growth reflects strong ad on in project sales in the quarter and our book-to-bill for the quarter was 1x. Our digital revenue grew 13% year-over-year and was down 3.3% sequentially reflecting contract milestone achievements in the second quarter. Year-to-date digital revenue was up 16%.
Industry IP and BPS revenue was down 0.4% year-over-year and grew 1.1% sequentially. In the third quarter our digital book-to-bill was 1.1x and our industry IP and BPS book-to-bill was 1.6x, including a large BPS life insurance deal that was completed in the quarter.
Now during the third quarter we continue to achieve merger integration milestones. We are on track to deliver $1.1 billion or more of year one cost savings, which implies roughly $1.6 billion of run rate cost savings exiting fiscal 2018. The separation of our U.S. public sector business and combination with Vencore and KeyPoint continues to progress. Today we filed the Form 10 and now expect the deal to close in May to allow the necessary SEC reviews.
Finally for fiscal 2018 we continue to target revenue of $24 billion to $24.5 billion in constant currency and we are increasing our fiscal 2018 target on non-GAAP EPS to a range of $7.50 to $8, reflecting additional synergy realization this year, and our adjusted free cash flow target remains 90% of adjusted net income.
Now let me go into a little more detail on each of those points.
As I said, third quarter non-GAAP EPS was $2.15. The effective tax rate was 28.7%. Third quarter adjusted EBIT was $927 million. Now adjusted EBIT margin was 15%. This was up 550 basis points year-over-year, and EBIT margin was up 180 basis points sequentially. All sequential margin comparisons adjust for the one-time catch-up impact of lease reclassifications during the second quarter.
Now the EBIT improvement reflects ongoing cost actions we are taking consistent with the synergy plans outlined at our investor day. Our delivery teams continue to scale and accelerate our Bionics program to drive productivity through increased automation. These efforts address both internal labor, as well as third party contractors.
We also enhanced our workforce management process to more cost effectively deliver existing business, while staffing the required labor for new business. In supply chain we continue to tighten controls on contractor spend, resulting in the elimination or conversion of thousands of contractor roles. We are also executing several initiatives to optimize non-labor spend, including ongoing rate negotiations, vendor consolidation, demand management and reductions in maintenance expense.
Collectively third quarter cost actions generated approximately $130 million of in-quarter savings, which means we are on track to deliver the $1.1 billion or more of in-year synergy realization versus our target of $1 billion. And adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $686 million or 110% of adjusted net income. For the year-to-date, adjusted free cash flow was $1.87 billion or 114% of adjusted net income.
Now turning to revenue in the third quarter, revenue was $6.186 billion on a GAAP basis. Revenue was down 4% year-over-year adjusting for the USPS contract reset in fiscal 2017. Sequentially revenue was up 0.6%. In constant currency revenue was down 5.9% year-over-year and up 0.8% sequentially. Total bookings in the third quarter were $6 billion for a book-to-bill of 1x.
Now as I mentioned, historically ES experienced significant revenue headwinds each November. Through our focused add on sales and project work we were able to offset those headwinds and grow revenue sequentially overall.
In the third quarter GBS revenue was $2.315 billion. GBS revenue was down $4.6 billion year-over-year and was up 0.2% sequentially. In constant currency, revenue was down 6.6% year-over-year and was up 0.4% sequentially, and the book-to-bill was 1.4x in the quarter. In the quarter GBS segment margin was 18.6%. This was up 470 basis points year-over-year and 220 basis points sequentially. This margin improvement reflects the impact of cost takeout actions, including the reduction of management layers, improved utilization of project based resources and third party labor optimization.
In the third quarter GIS revenue was $3.145 billion. GIS revenue was down 4.7% year-over-year and was up 0.4% sequentially. In constant currency revenue was down 6.8% year-over-year and up 0.7% sequentially. GIS revenue reflects the continued management of headwinds in the legacy infrastructure business and client transformations leveraging digital offerings in cloud and security. GIS bookings of $2.245 billion represented a book-to-bill of 0.7x in the quarter.
Now in the quarter, GIS segment margin was 14.7%. This was up 520 basis points year-over-year and 120 basis points sequentially. This improvement reflects cost actions and as I said earlier, process automation.
In the third quarter, USPS revenues were $726 million and during the third quarter last year we had a large one time contract reset that provided roughly $100 million of revenue in the quarter. Now excluding this benefit UPS revenue was up 0.9% year-over-year and up 2.3% sequentially.
USPS booking were $527 million for a book-to-bill of 0.7x, reflecting the typical lumpiness of contract awards timing in the industry. The USPS segment margin in the quarter was 15.2%, which was up 350 basis points year-over-year and 210 basis points sequentially.
Now I’ll provide an update on the separation of the USPS business and the combination of Vencore and KeyPoint in a few moments.
DXC also in the quarter continued to expand its client base by adding 24 new logo deals greater than $1 million in total contract value.
Now let me move to our digital industry IP and BPS results. As we discussed, digital cuts across all three DXCs reporting segments of GBS, GIS and USPS and includes Enterprise Cloud Apps in consulting, cloud infrastructure analytics and security. Digital revenue was up 13% year-over-year and down 3.3% sequentially reflecting contract minestrone achievements in the second quarter. Year-to-date digital revenue was up 16% and the book-to-bill was 1.1x in the third quarter.
Enterprise Could Apps and Consulting revenue was up 25% year-over-year and book-to-bill in the quarter was 1.2x. The Enterprise Cloud Apps team continues to drive growth through an expanded portfolio of quick start offerings. These offerings allow us to rapidly understand the client environment and develop more impactful large scale transformations.
Cloud revenue was up 13% year-over-year and book-to-bill in the quarter was 1x. Analytics revenue was up 2.4% year-over-year and the book-to-bill in the quarter was 1x. Recent wins include a deal with large German Bank, as well as deals with two major automotive companies. The auto companies are leveraging our analytics capabilities to significantly shorten R&D cycles and to more effectively manage data and generate insights from autonomous driving programs.
Security revenue was down 3.5% year-over-year but was up 12% sequentially. As we’ve said before and we are continuing to invest to growth this business through the expansion of our security consulting capabilities. We also launched new offerings, including identity access management as a service, and a ransom where consulting diagnostic to address the increase in cyber security threats and the book-to-bill in security in the quarter was 1.1x.
Industry IP and BPS includes our IP offerings in healthcare, insurance, travel and transportation and banking, as well as our industry business process services businesses. Industry IP and BPS revenue was down 0.4% year-over-year and was up 1.1% sequentially. Book-to-bill was 1.6 in the quarter, including a large full service BPS life insurance deal. Industry IP revenue was down 1.8% year-over-year and was up 1.8% sequentially and the book-to-bill was 0.6%.
BPS revenue was up 1.4% year-over-year, roughly flat sequentially. The book-to-bill in the quarter 2.8x, again reflecting the large insurance deal as well as new logo contract with a state medicate agency which is as I might add, our 23rd State Medicaid account.
Now as I previously discussed on earlier calls, we formed a new digital business team to jointly develop digital transformations with our clients, leveraging assets from across the company and our partnerships, and we are scaling this model to more than 50 accounts over the next few months.
In our pilot accounts we increased digital pipeline by 30% and created several new opportunities valued at more than $200 million each. We also leveraged these initial engagements to develop a DXC Digital Framework which aligns DXC assets, capabilities and partner offerings to create a reusable digital transformation blueprint. This allows us to quickly shape modular transformation roadmaps by the clear business outcomes for our clients, while unlocking greater share of wallet and overall revenue growth for DXC.
The recent Harvard business review survey found that more than a third of the companies do not believe their internal IT organizations are capable of executing their digital agendas. And as a result, digital transformations typically result in expanded revenue opportunities for IT services providers like DXC.
We also launched five digital transformation centers globally, including the recently announced New Orland’s Digital Transformation Center. And in the quarter we continue to expand our partner offerings, including digital insurances as a service on AWS, bundling DXCs industry leading insurance applications with business process and infrastructure services to create an integrated solution with a simplified consumption based pricing structure. This allows insurers to launch consumer oriented products quickly, while delivering a streamlined customer experience across new businesses, servicing and claims.
We also sold our largest Microsoft Azure deal today and expanded renewal with a major consumer products company that included transformation from legacy infrastructure environments to hybrid cloud. And we continue to focus on up-skill and training our workforce on digital capabilities. More than 105,000 DXC employees have completed training programs through DXC University, with a heavy focus on cloud infrastructure, cloud native application, DevOps and Agile. Overall our employees have competed 385,000 courses and programs so far this year.
Now turning to our fourth point here, we continue to achieve merger integration milestones and to execute on the bill sell deliver operating model we previously discussed. We are on track to deliver, 1.1 billion or more of year one cost savings and roughly 1.6 billion of run rate cost savings exiting fiscal 2018. The addition savings were primarily driven by workforce optimization actions including the acceleration of management reductions and the global deployment of our automation program Bionics.
We are underway on the operational separation of the U.S. public sector business to operate as a standalone company and the integration of that company with Vencore and KeyPoint. We’ve conducted a series of integration summits bringing together leaders from each part of the new company. The operating model for the new company is finalized and we also recently announced the senior leadership team and the Form 10 registration statement was filed today. And at this time we expect the deal to close in May based on the anticipated SEC review process, and as I said before, prior to the deal close we will have an Investor Day for the new company.
Now just to conclude before I turn it over to Paul, for fiscal 2018 we continue to expect revenue to be $24 billion to $24.5 billion in constant currency and we are increasing our target for non-GAAP EPS to a range of $7.50 to $8, reflecting the additional synergy realization this year and our adjusted free cash flow target remains 90% of adjusted net income.
So with that, and I’ll turn it over to Paul and then we’ll be back for any questions that you might have.
Thank you Mike and greetings everyone. Before I review our third quarter results, I would like to take a moment to clarify the basis for our financial presentation.
First, the pro forma results for Q3 of last year conform to the same methodology we used in the first two quarters and as such, all reference to the unaudited pro forma statement of operations for the prior year include the results of operations of CSC for the three and nine months ending December 30, 2016 and our HPES for the three and nine months ended October 31, 2016.
Also prior year pro forma non-GAAP results assume a flat quarterly tax rate of 27.5%. In addition, fiscal ’18 third quarter results reflect the impact of a differed revenue write down for purchase price accounting, whereas the prior year pro-forma does not.
Lastly, non-GAAP results exclude restructuring, integration, amortization of intangibles and one-time tax items consistent with CSC’s non-GAAP methods from prior years. And with that I will now cover some items that are included in our GAAP results this quarter.
In the current quarter, we had restructuring costs of $213 million pretax or $0.56 per diluted share. These costs represent severance related to workforce optimization programs and expense associated with facilities and data center rationalization. Also in the quarter we had $94 million pretax or $0.23 per diluted share of integration and transaction related costs. Year-to-date, restructuring, integration and transaction costs amounted to $879 million pretax or $2.23 per diluted share, which is in line with the $1.3 billion spend envelope we laid out for fiscal '18.
In the third quarter, amortization of acquired intangibles was $149 million pretax or $0.36 per diluted share. Pension and other post employment benefit actuarial and settlement gains were $17 million in the quarter.
Third quarter results include the benefit from the provisional impact of US federal tax reform, including the reprising of our differed tax liabilities, offset by tax accrual required under the new tax rules. We’re still awaiting further guidance from regulatory agencies on the interpretation of the U.S. tax reform provisions, including those related to global intangibles non-tax income and the base erosion anti avoidance tax. It’s still early to tell, but overall we expect tax reform to provide a moderate tailwind.
Now let’s turn to our third quarter results in more detail.
Revenue in the quarter was $1.186 billion on a GAAP basis. Purchase price accounting reduced revenue in the quarter by $34 million representing a write down of differed revenue. For the fiscal year the differed revenue write down for PPA is now expected to be $214 million versus our prior estimate of $230 million.
All revenue comparisons exclude the impact of purchase price accounting and a one-time contract reset in USPS of $105 million last year. On that basis revenue was down 4% year-over-year and up 0.6% sequentially. In constant currency revenue was down 5.9% and up 0.8% sequentially.
EBIT in the quarter was $927 million after adjusting for restructuring, integration and amortization of intangibles. Adjusted EBIT margin on that basis was 15% compared with 13% last quarter, but that is after normalizing for the one-time catch up benefit of lease reclassification we recorded in the second quarter. This improvement reflects cost actions we’re taking to optimize our workforce, extract greater supply chain efficiencies and rationalize our real estate footprint.
In this quarter we continue to rebalance our workforce. We reduced our labor base by an additional 3% in the quarter through a combination of automation, best shoring and pyramid correction. We also continue to rebalance our skill mix, including the addition of 5,300 new employees and the ongoing retraining of the existing workforce.
In supply chain we’re extracting greater procurement efficiencies. We leverage our digital analytics capabilities to mine over $2 billion of statement of work spend data identifying specific opportunities to reduce demand, improve rate compliance and consolidate suppliers.
In real estate we eliminated 1.3 million square feet of space during the quarter and for the year-to-date we’ve reduced our total square footage by roughly 17%. In total we delivered $130 million of incremental cost take out in the quarter and are on-track to achieve $1.1 billion or more in in-year savings, which translates to around $1.6 billion of run rate savings exiting fiscal ’18.
Non-GAAP diluted EPS from continuing operations in the third quarter was $2.15 adjusted for one-time tax items, restructuring, integration and amortization of intangibles. Year-to-date our non-GAAP diluted EPS was $5.66.
In the quarter our non-GAAP tax rate was 28.7% reflecting our global mix of income and certain tax attributes in key foreign jurisdictions. Year-to-date our non-GAAP tax rate was 27.9%, which is in line with the non-GAAP target for tax that we have for the full year of 25% to 30%. Booking in the quarter were $6.02 billion for an overall book-to-bill of one-time. Year-to-date revenue was $18.26 billion, adjusted EBIT was $2.48 billion and bookings were $18.24 billion for our book-to-bill ratio of one-time.
Now let’s turn to our segment results. Global business services revenue was $2.3 billion in the third quarter. Excluding the impact of purchase price accounting of $6 million, GBS revenue was down 4.6% year-over-year and was up 0.2% sequentially. In constant currency revenue was down 6.6% year-over-year and up 0.4% sequentially.
In the third quarter GBS profit was $431 million and profit margin was 18.6% compared with 16.4% in the second quartet. This margin improvement reflects cost take out actions, including reductions in both internal and third party labor expenses. Our GBS bookings were $3.3 billion in the quarter for a book-to-bill of 1.4 times. Year-to-date BGS revenue was $6.9 billion, segment profit was $1.1 billion for margins of 15.9% and our booking were $8.1 billion for a book-to-bill of 1.2 times.
Turning now to global infrastructure services, revenue was $3.1 billion in the quarter. Excluding the impact of purchase price accounting of $26 million in the quarter, GIS revenue was down 4.7% year-over-year but was up 0.4% sequentially.
In constant currency revenue was down 6.8% year-over-year and up 0.7% sequentially. In the third quarter GIS segment profit was $463 million and profit margin was 14.7% compared with 13.6% in the second quarter, normalizing for the one-time catch up impact of lease reclassification last quarter.
The profit improvement reflects the impact of cost actions we are taking to drive greater operating efficiencies, including best shoring, labor pyramid rebalancing, benefits from our Bionics automation program and supply chain savings. Bookings for GIS were $2.2 billion in the quarter or a book-to-bill of 0.7 times. Year-to-date GIS revenue was $9.3 billion. Segment profit was $1.222 billion and margins was 13.2% and our bookings were $8.8 billion for a book-to-bill of 0.9 times.
Turning now to the U.S. public sector; revenue there was $726 million in the quarter. USPS revenue was up 0.9% year-over-year and up 2.3% sequentially. USPS segment profit was $110 million in the quarter and profit margin was 15.2% compared with 13.1% in the second quarter, normalizing for the one-time catch up impact of reclassification this past quarter.
The margin improvement was driven by a reduction in indirect costs and award fees associated with successful program executions and milestone achievements. Bookings for USPS were $527 million in the quarter for a book-to-bill of 0.7x. Year-to-date USPS revenue was $2.1 billion, segment profit was $296 million, margin was 14% and our bookings were $1.4 billion for a book-to-bill of 0.6x.
Turning to other financial highlights for the quarter, adjusted free cash flow in the quarter was $686 million or 110% of adjusted net income. This reflects ongoing improvement in working capital management. Adjusted free cash flow excludes proceeds from receivable securitization programs. Year-to-date adjusted free cash flow was $1.87 billion or 114% of adjusted net income.
Our CapEx was $481 million in the quarter or 7.8% of revenue reflecting the reclassification of operating leases to capitalize leases. Year-to-date CapEx was $1.29 billion or 7.1% of revenue, of which 1.7% was associated with the reclassification of operating leases to capitalized leases.
During the quarter we returned $51 million of capital through our shareholders and dividends. Year-to-date we have returned $189 million of capital to our shareholders in the form of $123 million in dividends and $66 million in share repurchase.
Cash at the end of the quarter was $2.9 billion. Our total debt was $8.5 billion including capitalized leases. Net debt to total capitalization ratio was 25.8%.
So in closing we continue to target revenue for the fiscal year to be $24 billion to $24.5 billion in constant currency. We are increasing our full year target for non-GAAP EPS from continuing operation to a range of $7.50 to $8, reflecting the additional synergy realization this year. Our EPS target continues to assume a tax rate of 25% to 30% for the full year. U.S. federal tax reform will likely provide a moderate benefit in the fourth quarter. We still expect the full year tax rate to be between 25% to 30%. Our adjusted free cash flow target for fiscal remains the 90% of adjusted net income.
And with that, I’ll now hand the call back to the operator for the Q&A session.
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Ramsey El-Assal with Jeffries.
Hi guys. This is Damian on for Ramsey. I just wanted to ask you. I know you had said you were going to wait to some guidance on tax reform before giving official guidance for the rate, but you mentioned that it was going to be a tailwind. So just on free cash flow then, can you talk about how we should think about your use of those proceeds from tax reform and the context of your broader capital allocation strategy you’ve already laid out.
This is Mike and then Paul, you can chime in here. The terms of the capital allocation model, that’s not going to change. So we’re going to continue to stick with that as we go forward here and conclude this year and get into our next fiscal year. Paul you may want to add something to that.
Yeah, well I think the tailwind that we expect is a couple of points. I think, so it doesn’t change the way.
Doesn’t change the capital allocation model.
Got it and just as a follow-up I wanted to ask, just on the runoff rate on the legacy infrastructure business, what are your expectations in terms of the long term rate of decline there? Should we expect the decline to moderate at some point as the sort of less sticky business falls off and it leaves a more harden book of business.
You know I think we have to be candid. We’ve seen a little less revenue dissynergies and we have been a little more successful than we had planned in terms of offsetting the decline in legacy infrastructure business. We’ve been more successful offsetting that with cloud and some of our other digital offerings. So that has gone in all candor a litter better than what we had modeled and what we had communicated.
Now as we look out into next year, we are going to run a lot of the same plates that we ran this year. So we are ramping up our investment in digital skills, both the retraining of our people as well as the recruiting of our people. We are significantly investing in the number of accounts we are trying to take to our digital transformation road map and blue print. So we are going to continue with the same plate that has given us some of the success around offsetting that decline in the traditional IPO business.
Thank you.
We’ll go next to Arvind Ramnani with KeyBanc.
Hey, congrats on another good quarter. Just had a couple of questions. You know kind of revenue just came in slightly above and bookings came in at $5.5 billion, which is an uptick from the prior quarter. You know is this reflective of a healthier demand environment or is it more to do with seasonality?
And also can you provide kind of a broader context to how the market is responding to the combined entity; including the partnerships we have been putting together and how you feel you are reshaping our capabilities relative to what clients are looking for?
Yeah listen, I’m going to start with the back part of that first. Our partners have responded very well. So that means we are a large, independent, end-to-end services company. We are the ideal partner for many of our technology partners to get their technology and their solutions to market. So that is moving along at a very good pace and frankly those partnerships are deepening every week, every quarter as we go forward and it gives our clients unprecedented choice and the ability to avoid a lock in, which is increasingly important to them as they continue to progress through this next phase of the industry around digital capabilities. I would say in terms of the – so that’s the business partner side of this Arvind.
In terms of what we are seeing, to be honest with you, I just spent two weeks on the road. I was in Japan and I was in China and India and Singapore and I got to tell you, I have never in my life been. You know I could be downtown Tokyo talking with clients or Beijing the next day, they are all talking about the same thing. I have never witnessed this in my life. They all understand the impact of these digital technologies and how that is transforming their industries that they operate in front of their very eye. They all have plans to do this.
They all are very, cautious and skeptical as to whether they have the skills internally to do this and the Harvard businesses review study did nothing more than confirm that. We are seeing good growth in all parts of the world. I mean when was the last time you saw Europe and Japan and China and India and the U.S. all growing. So I’m pretty optimistic about the longer term demand profile.
Now there is a lot of work to do to capture that demand, and I don’t want to in any way shape or form minimize the amount of work ahead. But there clearly is a good opportunity and we are continuing to transition our business to much more digital, much more of our industry IP, and BPS businesses that we have been investing for some time.
That’s great to hear it and just a quick follow-up. You know clearly you are ahead of, kind of based on your cost targets and you had time to settle and really get this integration underway. Just trying to get a feel about the acquisition now versus a year ago, and specifically beyond the numbers can you qualitatively talk about the integration process and any lessons learnt on having owned the HP source of business for close to a year?
Well I think there is a lot of lessons to be learnt. One, we did a lot of upfront planning on the integration and frankly, that went well. Like every other integration, when you get into all the detail, there is a lot of things under the covers that you have to address as begin to integrate the company.
I mean for example, in March we’ll go to a consolidated workday platform or human resources. That is a very important next step in unifying all of our human resource systems, processes and just allow us to better serve and mange our employee base, and that will continue for the next several years as we integrate all these systems. But I think the biggest lesson learnt is that detailed planning and then sticking to a very disciplined integration processes is absolutely imperative and we are prepared to be able to force correct as we find new things and we are always finding new things.
But at the end of the day from my advantage point this was a merger than has not only generated significant synergies as we are witnessing in terms of the results that are being posted here, but really is allowing us to respond and scale, and scale not only for our partners but able to scale for our clients and we think that’s going to have a long term benefit.
Thank you very much, and good luck for 2018.
Thank you.
We’ll go next to James Friedman of Susquehanna.
Hi, its Jamie at Susquehanna. I’ll just ask Mike two up front in the interest of time. So now that we have three of the four quarters, it suggests that final quarter is going to grow year-over-year if my math is right. Could you just contextualize that and remind us what happened in the fourth quarter of last year; if there is any call out’s there; that’s my first one.
And then with regard to the Form 10, thank you for that. My recollection is the intended timing. I don’t mean to complain, but my recollection was original timing was the end of March. I know stuff happens Mike as you say, but why are we thinking May now instead of March. Those are my two, the year-over-year and then the timing. Thank you.
Yes. I will take the second one first. Yes, we had – I had communicated – we thought we had closed this transaction at the end of March, early April and that was the scheduled, and candidly we had some issues getting the accounting firm approved to be able to do an audit for all the numbers in USPS and we lost about 30 days in getting that accounting firm approved and we’ve completed that work now and that is about 30 days behind and we filed the Form 10 today and I am allowing you know the necessary time for the SEC to review and approval process. So that’s why I’m now saying the month of May.
Yes, I think on the other question about last year, you know I think you are absolutely right. I think if you look at it, we will – at this level we would posting some revenue growth on a year-over-year basis. And as you look back at historically HPES on there, their fourth quarter which usually is the November to January quarter for them, they typically saw a significant decline sequentially because at their quarter end of October you saw a lot of one time or accelerated revenue recognition and so you saw a price down or other kind of a decline sequentially. I think last year was close to a few hundred million dollars sequentially and this year I think as you could see, we have been able to mitigate those kind of declines about the project work and mitigating even…
And any separation in the digital offering growth; as we are seeing the digital offering growth.
And you are absolutely right, at these levels we would show growth year-over-year.
Thank you.
Thank you. Our next question will come from Brian Essex with Morgan Stanley.
Hi, good afternoon and thank you for taking the question. Congrats on the quarter. I just wanted to address maybe you know tax reforms and maybe if could parse those comments on you know USPS versus DXC pro forma post spend. Any consideration for you know post spend with DXC be a meaningful beneficiary tax reform and then as a part (b) to that question, does it impact at all the amount of synergies that you anticipated long term understanding that you know maybe some decisions around transfer pricing and taking advantage of low cost tax jurisdictions may have played a part in some of those numbers?
So those are very good questions. So I would like to break it into its pieces. For USPS obviously they would be a U.S. tax filer and they will benefit from the new tax reform there. The rates will be about 21% federal and then maybe about four or so percent for the state and local. So in total they would be at a 25% versus otherwise they would they would have been closer to the 39% rate. So for them that’s a good deal for the new gov.
For DXC we are certainly are going to be benefiting from a lower tax rate as we said. There are other things in the tax reform that play into it. There are some taxes on foreign earnings, a minimum tax on foreign earnings. There are also some minimum tax on payment to non-U.S. subsidiaries. That’s kind of our contra bailing type of forces there. So it’s a balancing act. We are revisiting many of our tax position to make sure how do we optimize in the current environment.
In fact what’s really interesting is now our foreign taxes are higher than in the U.S., expect for the UK. So we have to rethink a little bit more the enter transfer pricing as you well correctly point out and – but net-net at this particular point in time is still a tailwind overall for DXC Remain Co.; if you think about it, the company on the commercial side.
And Paul, I’ll just add one other thing is that I think longer term is there a tailwind associated with it. But I do think it will allow us to simplify our structures. So over the years we have created a lot of legal entities and other structures to try to optimize tax on a global basis and I do think this tax reform is one of the benefits that will be the ability to simplify that structure and that has a lot of downstream benefits when you are running a large global corporation that has, that is dependent on the number of people and employees that we have in so many other countries. So when you add that all up, I think it’s definitely going to benefit DXC post the spin and as Paul said, there is question that it’s going to help the USPS businesses and Vencore and KeyPoint.
Right, and are you seeing any of that on the discretionary side of customer budgets at this point, just to kind of follow up on that?
No, I’m not saying that. But I want to tell you, I was – I was interested. I mean you know even in visiting with clients on a worldwide basis, many have indicated to me that they see it as positive. That it will actually help their businesses as well. So you know overall, I’ve got nothing but positive feedback from clients on a worldwide basis.
Very helpful. Thank you.
One second, I was going to build on that, because I think there is actually part of the tax reform. There is the immediate opportunity for some of our customers to expense qualified PPNE expenditures. So for some of them it maybe just really an encouragement and it’s because they could get in 100% depreciation on some qualified...
That’s yet to play-out.
Yes.
We’ll take our next question from Rod Bourgeois with DeepDive Equity Research.
Hey guys. Hey, I want to talk about digital mix aspirations. It’s encouraging in addition to all of the synergies on the cost side that you guys have multiple efforts internally to drive more digital sales. So my question is, do you view acquisitions as a major avenue to drive your digital mix higher going forward or are you feeling like your organic sales efforts are looking sufficient to keep moving the needle on the digital front?
Yeah, that’s a good question Rod. I think we will probably continue to acquire, to build out that capability. We did that this year with Tribridge and some other service now acquisitions that we’ve done. So within our capital allocation model we’ve always said that we’d like to buy 1% or so of revenue growth around acquisitions. And those acquisitions have been targeted in the digital areas. So that will continue as we go forward.
So I mean we are pleased with the organic. We are seeing good growth in some areas. I mean we are seeing 24%, 25% growth in our enterprise cloud apps business, so that stuff is like service now and Microsoft and SAP and Oracle, we are really pleased with that. We are seeing good growth in our cloud infrastructure business that gets masked a little bit with the headwind associated with the traditional ITO businesses.
We are investing big time in the cyber security businesses prior to the merger there and a disinvestment in that, and we are reinvesting in that and we are also really investing. This is more an organic basis where we’re investing in our existing clients. So we are appointing what we’re calling digital account teams. So we are actually beginning to move in the direction of having one team responsible for the legacy or the run environments that we have and then a separate team that is focused in many cases on dis-intermediating and driving a digital platform growth. And we’ve concluded that this digital business requires a different mindset.
It is a different culture; it’s a different thought process. And most of our teams are fully employed, busy and just maintaining and running the systems that we have responsibility for. So we are making a big organic investment around trying to ignite those digital sales and we are beginning to see some results.
I think I said in my commentary, we are going to scale that to 50 accounts. We are seeing good pipeline growth now. Pipeline growth has to get converted into revenue, don’t misunderstand me, but that all of those are encouraging signs as we look out.
Great. Hey, so on the related note; do you have a good metric to track progress in cross selling to your existing clients, particularly in the digital arena? I guess what I’m getting at is you had still some compression on traditional work that’s going on across the industry, but you are also pursuing scope expansion as some of that legacy work runs off. Is there a metric to track that and if there is, is it tracking right now in the right direction amidst all the cost savings that are going on?
Yeah, that’s also a very good question. We track something called ABR which is Annual Billed Revenue and we stated that this year. It really is around our new offerings, so I think of this primarily as our digital offerings and also around incremental project work that we are trying to drive within our existing base.
Now that ABR metric is still immature. So I am not ready to report publically on it, because I am just not ready to do that, because I want to see a little more history in data points. What I will tell you is that that ABR has been increasing now three quarters in a row. So we saw really sort of a base line in the first quarter and we are seeing good growth in the second quarter and we saw good growth again in the third quarter. But I am not ready to report that as a metric yet until I’m comfortable that that ABR can be linked to what we see running through the P&L.
So we’ve done some initial work on this and we think that in the first quarter what we sold in ABR, 90% of that has actually shown up in the P&L in the second, third and fourth quarter. The ABR that we sold in the second quarter, we are seeing a yield of seventy some percent and so on and so forth, but it’s not ready for primetime yet. But those are encouraging for us internally and organically encouraging sign posts for us.
Alright, well that ABR has a nice ring to it and the three quarters in a row trend, that sounds great. Look forward to hearing more about that later. Thanks.
Thanks Rod.
Thanks Rod.
Our next question will come from Jim Schneider with Goldman Sachs.
Good afternoon and thanks for talking my question. Maybe just kind of stepping back on the cost synergy side for a second. Can you maybe talk about out of the broad buckets that you’ve identified, obviously it’s very good to see the overall aggregate number go up and guide up the synergy number for the full year. But if you look at the individual buckets, clearly some upside in the headcount and workforce rebalancing piece of it. But can you maybe talk about some of the other buckets and where you are running ahead of plan and where you think you could end up with a little more synergies on a longer driven basis and where I wonder this might be actually a little bit behind plan.
Yeah I think let’s start with where we are behind. Where we are behind a little bit is in the supply chain, that procurement savings and not that we aren’t going to get them, but they were a little more delayed than we thought. So the aggregate number we are still very comfortable with, but the realization of that is coming a little later, so we’ll continue to see some of that flow through next year. We still have quite a bit of work to do with our subcontractor base and how we manage that contingent labor force. So I’d say there we are behind.
An area where we are ahead and are very pleased about is Bionics and that’s our automation, our lean methodologies and our sort of advanced analytics. That is having a bigger impact on the business than what we had anticipated, a positive. And we frankly see that continuing and I see this continuing not through the fourth quarter, just through fiscal ’19. I see this as a long term trend and we are really getting comfortable with that.
So that was probably the biggest over achievement. It was an investment we made; it’s the best of our delivery organization. Early in the year we sort of put a lot of money behind it and it has paid off handsomely and we are going sort of full speed ahead.
The other thing we have done is our whole agile process methodology. As we are using internally to reengineer some of our processes and then we’ll take that methodology externally and pack the set up as an offering for our client. We see that as very promising.
So I think the big area we are behind was around procurement, not that the absolute number isn’t there, but the timing was more skewed to the right than what we had anticipated and then on the automation or Bionics side we are clearly ahead. I’d say from a real-estate standpoint and fiscal asset standpoint we are probably slight ahead of where we thought, but not materially and then in the harmonization of policies and all that stuff is pretty much what we thought it would be. But we are seeing a little better yield on the synergies and that’s why we increased our end year synergies and we increased our exist synergies rate existing fiscal ’18.
Great, thanks and then maybe kind of building on some of the questions that were asked early on digital. I mean if you look and combine all those targeted focus areas for you, industry IP, BPS, Enterprise Could, Analytics, Securities etcetera, as you look into next year, can you maybe give us some kind of sign post as to how much of the mix that might represent based on all the trends you are seeing underlying in bookings today?
Well, we’d like to see the digital business begin to approach you know a 17%, 20% sort of range of our total business. The IP business, I don’t have a number right off the top of my head, but somewhere…
15% to 16%
15% to 16%. The BPS business, particularly insurance is growing. We just signed another major deal in the third quarter and we’ve gotten most of the accounts that needed some remediation. That is almost completely behind us now. If you remember last year, we talked about the investment we needed to make in the insurance BPS business to remediate and get some more solid methodologies. We made that investment and that too is beginning to pay off for us.
Thank you.
Let’s just take one more.
We’ll go now to Jason Kupferberg with Bank of American.
Hey guys, how are you?
Alright Jason, how about yourself?
Good, good. I wanted to ask a question about Margins. Real strong in the quarter, 15% adjusted EBIT. I’m guessing you probably had your call at 1% help from the lease re-classes, so maybe I’ll call it 14%. You know I think the fiscal 20 guide from last year’s Analyst Day was you know to get to 14% to 15% in that [inaudible] and so your kind of there if my math is right. So I just wanted to see if there is any other considerations we should be thinking about as far as you know where that multi-year target could go?
Well yeah, I think one, you’re accurate. We are seeing a little bit better margin expansion this year than what we had anticipated and that’s largely due to the increased synergies that we got and also the fact that we had a little less revenue run off than we had expected this year. So those are the two factors that conspire to expand the margins a little faster this year.
I am not ready to update the model. What I am going to be taking a look at pretty carefully is what we think the impact of automation is going to be longer term and that’s a wild card, because frankly it’s something I am excited about, because for the first time in a long time I am seeing operating leverage in this business. I have not seen – I have been in this business for 30 years, services business and I have never really seen true operating leverage and we’re beginning to see some of that operating leverage being reduced into a labor based business through automation.
So I think that, I think the investment we’re making in re-skilling our people are all critical factors in helping to expand the revenue attainment, as well as drive incremental synergies which then results in a better margin performance.
Okay, I just want to ask a quick follow-up on digital too. I mean since you broke it down in a helpful fashion, I mean analytics and security I guess are maybe the [Achilles][Ph] heel right now relative to some of the other areas of digital. What’s the outlook there? Is that where you’d maybe focus some of the M&A energy?
Yeah, I mean the cyber business, I’ll tell you when I look back at it that that business was dis-invested in prior to the merger and that was one of the things we discovered post merger and we have been working pretty hard to reinvest in that and we are beginning to see sequential growth, so I am pretty confident that that will come back. We are definitely attracting now some really good talent in the cyber business.
The analytics business, I think we see some very strong capabilities. We were – you know I was in India last week looking at some of the innovation coming out of our analytics labs there. In my opening comments I talked about some of the things we’re doing with the auto companies and a lot of this analytics capability really scales across many accounts and many industries.
So we’re in the process of what I’ll call harvesting some of the unique one-off things we’ve done and now packaging up those one-off things so that they can be scaled across multiple industries and multiple accounts. And in many instances, many instances, the analytics business is sort of an entry point into other digital offerings that can be solved, and it’s instructive because we’re using some of that analytics capability ourselves as we take a look at metrics around our delivery business, particularly infrastructure business.
We’re using some of these analytics capabilities to better understand our business, which is then driving greater insights into where we can add automation and where we can do other things, lean out the business, etcetera and we’re applying that analytics also to our own business process.
You know while we’re doing all this, we’re re-engineering some of our most fundamental business process; how we hire? How we recruit? Are we onboard? Are we trained? How will we retain? That whole end-to-end process around people is absolutely critical to a business that is people based. The way we procure. I mean we’re doing thousands of transactions now that are smaller volume that require a complete rethink of our procurement process and how we manage to hire a number of low value transactions, and we’ve used our own analytics capability to try to understand that so we make more prudent decisions. So you know I am confident those businesses are going to perform better as we move forward.
Okay, good color. Thank you.
And that concludes today’s question-and-answer session. Mr. Ford at this time I’ll turn the conference back to you for any additional or closing remarks.
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