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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q3

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Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Enterprise Products Partners Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]

It is my pleasure to introduce your host for today's call, Randy Burkhalter, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, you may begin.

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Randy Burkhalter
Vice President-Investor Relations

Thank you, Dylan. Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to the Enterprise Products Partners conference call to discuss third quarter earnings. Sorry, and apologize for the delay but we're ready to go now. Our speakers today will be Co-Chief Executive Officers of Enterprise's General Partner, Jim Teague and Randy Fowler. Other members of our senior management team are also in attendance for the call today.

During this call, we will make forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 based on the beliefs of the company as well as assumptions made by the information currently available in the Enterprise's management team.

Although management believes that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to be correct. Please refer to our latest filings with the SEC for a list of factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements made during this call.

And with that, I'll turn it over to you, Jim.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Randy. Our businesses continued to perform extremely well during the third quarter. We reported $2 billion of EBITDA even though we were impacted by $30 million of headwinds due to hurricane Ida. Cash flow from operations was a record $2.4 billion, which more than fully funded both our capital expenditures and our distributions.

Year-to-date distributable cash flow is almost $5 billion, which has provided coverage of 1.7x and $2 billion in retained cash year-to-date. As we head into the final quarter of the year, while we don't take anything for granted, it looks like our businesses are going to finish with another strong year in 2021.

Our results reflect the ongoing recovery in demand for crude, NGLs, primary petrochemicals and refined products as the global economy continues to recover. For 2022, most experts agree on continued strong demand and economic growth worldwide. We believe that economic backdrop plus the need to restock virtually everything will continue to provide strong demand growth for oil and gas, natural gas liquids and plastics.

In addition to the record cash flow from operations, we had record profits from our propylene business, which contributed to the record gross operating income for our petrochemical and refined product service sector. Our PDH and splitters complement one another in our value chain, and we were able to take advantage of strong propylene spreads. Long term, petrochemical fundamentals are very strong and U.S. petrochemicals have multiple competitive advantages compared to almost all of their global peers. And likewise, Enterprise remains strongly positioned to provide the petrochemicals midstream services, including feedstock, storage, distribution and exports.

It's a footprint that's not easily copied. Our liquids pipelines have substantially recovered to near pre-pandemic levels at 6.3 million barrels a day with gas processing volumes benefiting from higher prices for NGLs. Enterprise's natural gas pipeline and transportation for the third quarter exceeded pre-pandemic 2019 levels at a record 14.6 Bcf a day.

In total, our crude oil equivalent pipeline transportation volumes were 10.1 million barrels a day for the quarter. NGL fractionation volumes remained supported at 1.3 million barrels a day. Our propylene production for the third quarter of 2021 was 96,000 barrels a day. Liquid volumes handled by our marine terminals for the third quarter were 1.5 million barrels a day. We completed construction of approximately $480 million of organic growth projects.

These projects are in various stages -- varying stages of startup. The major projects include a natural gasoline hydrotreater, which reduces sulfur content and blend stocks used for motor gasoline and several petrochemical pipelines and natural gas pipelines that expand those integrated systems. We expect to complete the Acadian Haynesville and Gillis lateral natural gas pipeline expansions in the fourth quarter of 2021.

Our Acadian Haynesville gas pipelines are strategically located to move growing Haynesville and Cotton Valley natural gas supplies to growing and higher-valued industrial and LNG markets. We have developed a -- an impactful project to utilize hydrogen as a fuel at our PDH 2 plant. This project will provide significant environmental benefits as well as upgrade the co-product value of produced hydrogen.

The change involves adding the capability to utilize hydrogen produced by the facility is fueled rather than relying on natural gas. By modifying the design of the heaters for PDH 2, we will reduce the plant's absolute carbon equivalent emissions by almost 90%. Construction of PDH 2 remains on schedule and on budget with completion expected in the second quarter of 2023.

We became very bullish on hydrocarbon prices on April 20, 2020. And at $80 a barrel, crude oil has increased in excess of $30 since the beginning of the year and propylene and natural gas prices have doubled since the 1st of the year. U.S. oil and gas industry is now in the hands of highly disciplined parties. We like to believe they prefer doing business with large and similarly responsible companies like us.

But now crude oil pricing remains on a path that is dictated by OPEC+, who need to receive higher prices for their products in order to balance their budgets and improve their economy. Clearly, they don't seem to be interested in any more price wars. OPEC is also signaling that they believe the world is going to need every barrel we can get our hands on in the future, including U.S. sales. We believe natural gas now has a sustained price up to $3 plus in order to encourage nonassociated production in places like the Haynesville and the lean Eagle Ford.

Likewise, we believe that all signs point to some level of staying power for the stronger price to WTI ratios we are seeing for propane and butane. Over the last 10 years, we've seen significant growth in global demand for U.S. liquids because of their price transparency, environmental attributes and transportability. We're very proud of what has evolved into a hydrocarbon franchise that has a strong domestic presence and a global reach. And with that, Randy, it's yours.

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Thank you, Jim. And good morning, everyone. In looking at the income statement, Net income attributable to common unitholders for the third quarter of 2021 was $1.2 billion or $0.52 per common unit on a fully diluted basis. This compares to $1.1 billion or $0.48 per common unit on a fully diluted basis for the third quarter of 2020. Net income was reduced by noncash asset impairment charges of $29 million or $0.01 per unit for the third quarter of this year, and this compares to a charge of $77 million or $0.03 per unit for the third quarter of last year.

Moving on to cash flows. Cash flows from operations was $2.4 billion for the third quarter of 2021. This compares to $1.1 billion for the third quarter of last year. It should be noted that the third quarter of 2021 cash flow from operations benefited by $648 million of net cash provided by changes in working capital accounts.

The swing in cash provided by or used for working capital accounts between the 2 quarters accounts for substantially all of the $1.3 billion favorable variance between the 2 quarters. Free cash flow for the 12 months ended September 30, 2021, which is cash flow from operations less investing activities less net cash flow to noncontrolling interest, our JV partners was $5.6 billion, compared to $2.1 billion for the comparable trailing-12 months in 2020.

We declared a distribution of $0.45 per unit with respect to the third quarter of 2021 to be paid on November 12. This distribution of approximately $1 billion for the quarter represents a 1.1% increase compared to the third quarter of 2020. During the third quarter, we repurchased approximately $75 million or 3.4 million EPD common units. In addition to these buybacks, EPD's distribution reinvestment plan and employee unit purchase plan purchased a combined $36 million or approximately 1.6 million EPD common units in the open market during the third quarter.

Our payout ratio, which we define as the sum of cash distributions and buybacks as a percent of cash flow from our operations for the 12 months ending September 30, 2021, as reported, was 51% and was 58% after adjusting cash flow from operations for cash provided by working capital changes.

This is consistent with the 55% to 80% payout ratio we have maintained over the past decade, throughout volatile business cycles and the pandemic. We are in the middle of our planning process for the 2022 budget. Our priorities for capital allocation are all-of-the-above approach with a goal to facilitate the long-term financial health of the partnership.

Our first priority is supporting and growing distributions to investors. Secondly, to support investments that complement our midstream system that have attractive rates of return in excess of our cost of capital with the objective of growing the partnership's cash flow per unit. Next is to maintain financial flexibility that enables us to weather business cycles and evolving legislative and regulatory risk to the energy sector.

Finally, it will be to execute buybacks on an opportunistic basis. As we have for the past several years, we plan to announce distribution growth guidance for 2022 in January. During the quarter, we issued $1 billion of senior notes at a fixed rate coupon of 3.3%, with the net proceeds to be used for general company purposes, including the repayment of our $750 million, 3.5% senior notes and our $650 million of 4.05% senior notes that mature in February 2022. We elected to issue during the third quarter rather than refinancing in 2022 to avoid interest rate risk. We were able to extend these maturities by 30 years while reducing the coupon of the debt by almost 0.5 percentage point. We would like to thank our fixed income investors for their continued support as this offering was -- had over $4 billion of demand on the busiest issuance day of the year.

During the quarter, we also renewed our 364-day and multiyear revolving credit facilities in September. In addition to extending the tenure of these facilities, we proactively decided to reduce the overall size of the multiyear facility by $500 million to $3.0 billion. Together with our $1.5 billion 364-day facility, we have $4.5 billion of borrowing capacity under these facilities. Over the past 2 years, we have proactively reduced Enterprise's bank credit commitments by a total of $1.5 billion or 25%.

This has principally been in response to our lower level of expected capital expenditures while also trying to be a responsible client to our bank, many of whom have been under investor pressure to reduce capital commitments to the traditional energy industry. Our total debt principal outstanding was $29.8 billion as of September 30, 2021. Assuming the first call date or the final maturity date for our hybrids, the average life of our debt portfolio is 16.8 years and 20.9 years, respectively. Our effective average cost of debt is 4.4%. Our consolidated liquidity was approximately $6.7 billion at September 30, 2021, including available -- which includes availability under our bank credit facilities and approximately $2.2 billion of unrestricted cash on hand.

This amount of cash on hand, while elevated by historical standards is primarily due to having already completed our refinancing and having cash available to retire $1.4 billion of senior notes in the first quarter of next year. It also provides us additional flexibility to respond to market opportunities.

Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2021 was $2 billion and $8.3 billion for the 12 months ending September 30, 2021. Our consolidated leverage ratio was 3.2x after adjusting debt for the partial equity treatment of the hybrid debt securities and reduced by the partnership's unrestricted cash on hand. With that, Randy, we can open it up for questions.

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Randy Burkhalter
Vice President-Investor Relations

Thank you, Randy. Dylan, we're ready to take questions from our listeners. [Operator

Instructions] Thank you. Go ahead, Dylan.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Shneur Gershuni from UBS.

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Shneur Gershuni
UBS

I was wondering if you can share your latest thoughts around potentially accelerating return of capital. Many of your peers are pursuing buybacks. Some have announced special increases and so forth, we're seeing positive stock reactions. A lot of the producer customers are electing to pursue buybacks instead of investing in growth. And so kind of wondering about your latest thoughts. In the past, you've mentioned some uncertainty with respect to Washington, but there's now a draft reconciliation bill out. Has that thought process changed at all? And if so, is there a preference towards buyback given where the stock is trading or would you be thinking about these distribution increases or special distribution increases?

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Shneur, I appreciate the question this morning. Here -- as we stated in prepared remarks, I think our -- when we think about allocation of capital, it's all-of-the-above approach. We have been deliberate on buybacks. And some of that is because of the legislative and regulatory uncertainty. And we -- as far as -- looking out, we're still working, you may see clarity in Washington, D.C, we don't. And I think we'll get -- will come in and get better clarity over the next few months.

On the buyback activity that you mentioned from, I guess, you were referring to Magellan and MPLX, I think we need to give a little bit more time to see market reaction to that. There were a couple of research notes that we saw was -- where -- what was it -- they -- during the time period that they did buybacks that Magellan actually underperformed in that August and September period during the point in time when they actually did buybacks. And then since the time they announced all those buybacks, they had pretty much performed in line with others. So I think -- I don't think we're ready to make a knee-jerk reaction to their performance or the outperformance as a result of the buyback. I would also note that if we go back and look at several years, we're allocating a good bit of cash.

In fact, we're one of the highest in paying out returning capital to our investors. And again, that's principally through distributions. Magellan has come in. I'll note, Magellan has come in, in the last year and really increase their payout ratio, but a lot of that has been as a result of proceeds from asset sales that they've been returning to investors, which makes sense.

We -- but if you've noticed, we just not had much in the way of proceeds to asset sales. So we'll be coming in. We're going through our 2020 budget cycle. We'll come in and announce what our plans are for distribution increase next year in January. I would note that 2021 marks our 23rd year of distribution growth. I don't think any other midstream company can say that. And so it's our practice to return capital to investors and that includes both distributions and buybacks. And -- but we'll come in and we need to go through our budget cycle to come in and provide any more clarity on that.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

You did a pretty good job in your script laying out the priorities we look at, right?

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Right.

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Shneur Gershuni
UBS

Okay. I appreciate the color. I guess I was thinking along the lines of that you've got a $4 billion annual distribution and that if you reduce the unit count that it would actually fund more distribution growth in the future. But I guess we'll wait and see for the next update.

Maybe pivoting a little bit here. Your CapEx growth range for the next year, kind of -- you sort of tightened the range and you sort of seem to have a $1.5 billion cap, I guess, for next year. Is that the winning process of some prospects dropping off and if some ideas dropped off the table? Or is it a function of producers continue to remain disciplined on production and more focused on buybacks? Just kind of wondering on the tightening of the range there.

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Shneur, on that, not anything has dropped off the table as far as projects under development that really that we've been referring to the first 9 months of this year. It's more just from a standpoint of maybe timing of when some of those capital expenditures would hit in 2022.

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Shneur Gershuni
UBS

Okay. So -- but at the end of the day, the high end, right now, you're looking at is $1.5 billion for growth CapEx.

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Shneur, as we sit here today on November 2, our best estimate for growth CapEx in 2022 is $1 billion to $1.5 billion. That will be subject to change as we get into – as things develop.

Operator

I show our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet from JPMorgan.

Jeremy Tonet
JPMorgan

I just wanted to start off with the Build Back Better bill and just see if it's passed -- as it's written today, how that might impact Enterprise going forward, be it the higher 45Q levels, be it including renewables. Just wondering what impacts that would have -- could have on your business if it is passed?

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Jeremy, again, you guys in New York must have a better visibility to D.C. than what we see. Because I mean, from what we've seen, the Build Back Better plan is still a great deal of plugs and statements that have come out of the Senate, especially Senate Finance Committee, there -- it sounds like they are still pursuing some proposals there. So I think everything is really still in very much in a state of plug. So from the standpoint of first in Senate Finance Committee, you've got -- where they were looking to eliminate oil and gas tax preference items, which again includes the qualified earnings for MLPs attributable to fossil fuels.

The counter to that is on -- out of the house ways and means where you have -- they do not have the provision to eliminate the oil and gas tax preference items, which, again, are intangible drilling costs, cost depletion and MLPs. And in fact, they actually expand the qualified business activities for MLPs to pick up some renewable activities.

And you've got some saying that the legislation is going to go from the House to the Senate but then we're hearing that also in the Senate that they want to start in the Senate and move to the House. So again, you guys and on the East Coast might have better visibility, but that's sort of the last thing we see. As far as on the 45Q credits, it is encouraging that they are looking to come in and increase the amount of credits, I think, in order to come in and get carbon sequestration, whether it's sequestration or whether it's through EOR, I think the credits do need to be higher.

It's also encouraging to see a direct pay be included in that as well. But I think we -- right now, anything we would comment on would really just be pure speculation based on where the legislation is currently.

Jeremy Tonet
JPMorgan

Okay. Maybe just taking a step back, just curious, I guess, Enterprise in past years has been kind of a top performer in the space. This year has not as much. Just wondering what you think could be the driver of the relative performance this year? And could anything be kind of changed going forward to help that out?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

You answer that one.

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Jeremy, we're -- from a business standpoint, we're putting up good numbers. I would go back and we think we're doing our part as far as returns on capital, the cash flow that we're generating, the performance that we're recording throughout business cycles. As I said on the last call, when we come back in and look at probably our highest correlation is to the S&P energy sector. And I think that's the comp we're -- that's the comp that we track most closely. As far as coming in and comparing to various midstream companies, hard to say. Every dog has its today. And we're going to continue to execute on what we're doing well. And our allocation of capital strategy is going to be all of the above.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

And we just keep doing 1.7x coverage, keep retaining a lot of cash and sooner or later, it pays off.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jean Ann Salisbury from Bernstein.

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Jean Ann Salisbury
Bernstein

In the release, you note that your major Permian and Rockies NGL pipelines were down $31 million versus 3Q 2020 due to lower fees and volumes. Can you expand on what's happening? I had thought that NGL pipelines were kind of relatively safe from rate competition. And I'm not clear also if that $31 million is related to the Hurricane Ida impacts that you referenced.

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Brent Secrest

Jean Ann, this is Brent. There's volumes in the Rockies that continue to decline. We started to see a little bit of rig activity up there, but for most part, volumes are declining. Also the fee structure up there has declined in the third quarter.

In terms of the Permian, we offered some incentive rates in the short term on transportation to help entice volumes. And then, Tug, I'm looking at you on impacts from the hurricane, I don't think we had any big impacts from the hurricane as it relates to MAPL.

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Jean Ann Salisbury
Bernstein

Okay. That's helpful. And my follow-up is on the Texas Intrastate, kind of a similar question. There was a $34 million decrease from 3Q '20 based on lower capacity reservations. I think that makes sense because overall utilization on gas pipelines, Whistler kind of started, but it feels like it should improve from here. There's no more new pipelines coming. Is that kind of what you're seeing as well? Or do you think that you could see Texas Intrastate go lower in the next few quarters as more contracts roll?

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Brent Secrest

Okay. I think going forward, Jean Ann, you're going to see those volumes increase and those margins get better.

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Jean Ann Salisbury
Bernstein

Okay. That makes sense. And then I guess just like quickly following up on what you said about -- sorry, the answer to my first question about the incentive rates from the Permian. Is that like a competitive situation, I guess, where that plant has multiple pipelines and you're trying to get them to use Enterprise instead of a third party.

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Brent Secrest

That’s it. At the end of the day, if we can cover our costs and make some money, that’s what we’re going to do. But ultimately, a lot of these processing plants in the Permian, it’s a very efficient market, and we just have to compete harder.

Operator

I show our next question comes from the line of Chase Mulvehill from Bank of America.

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Chase Mulvehill
Bank of America

I guess first thing I wanted to follow up on was the propylene business. Gross margin was pretty strong coming in at $260 million, and this was despite 34 days of unplanned downtime on PDH 1. So I guess maybe could you just talk to that a little bit, what drove that? And then how sustainable on a go-forward basis, do you think this $260 million gross operating margin number is?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Chris, do you want to take it?

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Chris D'Anna

Sure. Chase, this is Chris D'Anna. Overall, we have several -- actually a significant number of contracts that are structured in a way that it's a fixed fee, but when the spread blows out, we participate. So a lot of what you saw this quarter is some of that benefit. And as to sustainability, I think you just look at the global supply chain issues across many industries. And when that gets solved, maybe we return back to some normalcy and spreads. But until then, I think we'll continue to see wide spreads.

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Chase Mulvehill
Bank of America

Okay. All right. On a follow-up, just kind of thinking about ethane and LPG exports as we kind of move into 2022, kind of what underlying trends are you seeing today? And what do you expect to see in the 2022 for LPG and ethylene exports.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Did you say ethane or ethylene or both?

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Chase Mulvehill
Bank of America

I said ethane. Well, you can talk to both if you want to. I'll slide that in there as well.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Justin? And then Chris.

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Justin Kleiderer
VP of NGL Marketing & Supply

Yes, Chase, this is Justin Kleiderer. With respect to ethane and LPG, I mean, ethane is probably more of a domestic story versus LPG. But I think both the case remains, which is demand will continue to outstrip the pace of supply growth as we forecasted. So we feel good about our LPG export dock continuing to remain at full regardless of how it's contracted today, and we continue to feel good about ethane prices as a whole because domestically, we still think demand is going to outstrip supply.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

And what you -- how full are you on ethane exports, right now?

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Justin Kleiderer
VP of NGL Marketing & Supply

November should be a record month.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Chris, ethylene?

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Chris D'Anna

Yes. The same for ethylene, November is going to be a record month for us. And we’re 95% contracted to the nameplate, but we’ve demonstrated we can run much higher than nameplate.

Operator

I show our next question comes from the line of Keith Stanley from Wolfe Research.

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Keith Stanley
Wolfe Research

I think I recall there might have been -- just following up on propylene. There might have been a local press article saying the company was considering adding another splitter. Is that something you'd be exploring with the market conditions very strong and I guess how do you think about the economics for that? And then relatedly, the potential upside to CapEx for next year going to $1 billion to $1.5 billion, is that tied to a particular chunky project or several smaller ones?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

As far as a splitter, I think some of the projects we're working on that we haven't finalized, we'll dictate whether we look at another splitter. Do you have anything on that, Chris?

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Chris D'Anna

And Graham can comment on this, but we have a pretty standard process for projects and the tax piece is the first step of that. So that's probably what you saw in the press.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

What was the rest of the question?

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Unidentified Company Representative

The $1 billion to $1.5 billion.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

I think we're working on -- as Randy said, we're working on some projects that if they come about, well that could see a little bit of an upturn in that CapEx. Right, Tug?

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Michael Hanley
SVP of Pipelines & Terminals

That's right.

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Yes. And Keith, that's just not one chunky project. That's several projects.

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Keith Stanley
Wolfe Research

Okay. Okay. Got it. And then -- just a clarification question on the special distribution concept, which you referenced MPLX. I don't think Randy, that was in your list of options, but is a special distribution something you would think about and consider next year if you had excess cash and just how you think about that versus buybacks? I'm assuming it's more efficient in your view to do a special if that was an option.

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Keith, I think our focus would really be more on regular way increasing the base distribution, and then we’ll see what we do on buybacks. And the buybacks, obviously, all depend on opportunistic buybacks, market conditions and also business opportunities at the time.

Operator

I show our next question comes from the line of Michael Blum from Wells Fargo.

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Michael Blum
Wells Fargo

I just want to talk a little bit about the Haynesville. You've seen a little bit of an uptick in your systems around there. Wondering if you can just give us an idea of if you're seeing producers -- increased producer activity there. And what's sort of driving the uptick in volumes on those systems?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Do you want to take it?

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Unidentified Company Representative

Yes. So we're seeing increased activity from our existing producer customers. But not only that, we're seeing new opportunities arise from potential new customers, some hit in the Cotton Valley but all from a gathering, treating and processing perspective. I'd say, we're working on a project to expand Acadian one more time, adding 400 million a day. So by the time that's done, Gillis will add 1.025 Bcf a day of takeaway to LNG markets, and then we'll add another 400 of Acadian capacity after that.

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Michael Blum
Wells Fargo

Got it. That's helpful. And then an interesting announcement around hydrogen for PDH 2. Just curious, is it feasible to look at PDH 1 and like trying to retrofit it effectively for the same hydrogen application? Or is that not possible?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Graham or Angie?

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Graham Bacon
Executive VP & COO

Graham, I'll take that. I think to a limited extent we can, but the technology lends itself better to the technology we've used for PDH 2. There's a lot more technical hurdles to overcome on PDH 1.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

What about other plants that your contracts roll up, Graham?

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Graham Bacon
Executive VP & COO

I think we've got other opportunities where we can -- where our contracts roll off, and we've got optionality on how we look at hydrogen, versus the market, how we consume and as well as the consumers in the facility, there's some options there. Some of the other units that are probably more suited to hydrogen than may be even PDH 1. And we're taking a look at all of those right now.

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

We've been -- Michael we've been selling our hydrogen, what I think Graham is saying is, as those contracts roll off, there ought to be other opportunities for us to use that hydrogen.

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Graham Bacon
Executive VP & COO

And you’ve got that option. We’ve got that option to the market or internally.

Operator

I show our next question comes from the line of Michael Cusimano from Pickering and Partners.

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Michael Cusimano
Pickering and Partners

So the press release mentioned lower NGL marketing activities as an impact of hedging. I was hoping you could talk about the significance of those hedges as well as how it affects 4Q and then moving into '22?

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BrentSecrest

I think in terms -- I'll talk -- this is Brent. In terms of the margins on NGLs, it's more a function of contango storage place that we had in the past. And in terms of the hedging aspect, Justin?

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Justin Kleiderer
VP of NGL Marketing & Supply

Yes, I think any hedges you see there are -- will be realized when physical delivery of product is made. So I would view those as transitory. And I think to Brent's point, the second half of 2020 saw a significant storage revenue as a function of April of 2020 in COVID.

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Michael Cusimano
Pickering and Partners

Okay. So it's less of a -- there's not much like NGL equity exposure that you've hedged away that would be impacting that?

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Justin Kleiderer
VP of NGL Marketing & Supply

We have very little processing exposure hedged.

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Michael Cusimano
Pickering and Partners

Okay. And then staying on the NGL segment, it looks like the ethane rejection from higher natural gas prices negatively affected the NGL segment, like looking quarter-to-quarter. Can you talk about what you're seeing today relative to 3Q? And then also if that rejection in the NGL segment improved what you saw in the natural gas segment for 3Q?

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Brent Secrest

I think in terms of what we see going forward, so you’re accurate in terms of the rejection that was going on within our system. In terms of going forward, we’re going to have to watch to see how fast producers get back. But I think ultimately, it comes a point in time, and we’ll see when it happens where the demand of the petrochemical sector is going to outstrip supply. So we’ll see how far away ethane has to be to get recovered from places that aren’t nearly as close to the Gulf Coast as the Permian or the Eagle Ford or Haynesville or some areas like that. I think that answers your question.

Operator

I show our next question comes from the line of Ed Siegel from Siegel Asset Management.

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Ed Siegel
Siegel Asset Management

I just have 2 questions. I guess I'm only allowed 2 questions, but in terms of growth going forward and capital expenditures going forward, what are the areas that excite you in terms of the opportunity set and could M&A be part of that? So that's one. And then the second is on inflation. And Randy, my crystal ball is pretty bad. But to the extent that we see inflation, what's the philosophy around the distribution regarding inflation? And are you focusing any inflationary pressures in the business right now?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

I'll take the first, Randy, you take the second one. In terms of what we -- some of the things we are -- we would like to do, Yves, is we've been pretty good at repurposing pipelines. So you can probably assume that we're looking at repurposing pipelines. And as far as M&A, I love what Randy has said all along where M&A is concerned, price matters, and we kick a lot of tires. And if the right price comes along, we're not going to -- we're probably going to have a look at it.

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Ed Siegel
Siegel Asset Management

And can I just interrupt right there? Has there been a subtle shift in terms of how you think about M&A? I mean, from a -- and I get what you said about price. But strategically, is M&A becoming a little bit more interesting to you?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

I don't think anything's changed, Ed. By the way, that's your second question. I don't think anything's changed. I think maybe some valuations are little more -- are a little better. And that's what price matters means.

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Randy Fowler
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Yes. And Ed going to, I guess, what is now your third question. On inflation, I want to say over 90% of our revenues have some sort of escalation mechanism in there, which are benchmarked to various indices. So we feel like we have a pretty good protection from inflation. I think Graham and his team have done a great job on our capital projects. As far as on long lead items, we've really been in pretty good shape as far as not seeing cost creep on those projects.

As far as how we think about the distribution, we said -- really what we're trying to achieve is trying to keep to, what is it, purchase power parity. And so we would like to come in. And with the increased inflation, have an increase in the distribution growth rate compared to what you've seen over the last 3 or 4 years.

And really, if I could use this just in terms of that, and this might get back to Jeremy's question of as far as recognition of the progress we've made and not showing up in the unit price. Some of it may be, what have you done for me lately? And we came in and we shifted our posture in 2017 to come in and be able to finance the business better rather than coming in and relying on both the debt and equity capital markets, I think we were the first mover in coming in and self-financing the business.

First, it was providing our own sources of equity capital. And this year, our cash flow from operations is going to cover all of our CapEx. So I think we made that shift. And to a degree, it may come down to a long-term view and the -- and maybe because the feedback that we get from our long-term investors, they are quite pleased with what we've been doing. And it -- versus short term. And I think a good bit of the liquidity in the stock market these days is high velocity, short-term-oriented money, and which may not align with how we've been allocating capital over the last couple of years.

But we think the way that we're progressing here is best for long term -- best for the long-term financial health of the partnership. We've been -- I go back. During this time period, you had a lot of MLPs, 150-plus, come in and cut distributions, and we did not. So as a result, they actually decreased the amount of capital they returned to their partners over the last 3 or 4 years, while we continue to increase ours. But now we're at a position of what have you done for me lately. You've got some people that might have a little bit more [indiscernible] in short-term gains that they can do because they cut their distribution so deeply.

So again, we're running a long race here. We're mindful of returning capital. Again, we're going to come in and do the all-of-the-above approach. And -- but that's sort of a follow-up on Jeremy's questions without charging you an extra question, Jeremy.

Operator

I show our next question comes from the line of Colton Bean from Tudor, Pickering, Holt.

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Colton Bean
Tudor, Pickering, Holt

So a couple of follow-ups here. Following up a $1 billion to $1.5 billion range. Can you clarify what level of spend was contemplated for SPOT? Or was that not one of the development projects in there?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

That's not in that number.

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Colton Bean
Tudor, Pickering, Holt

Got it. So that would be incremental to the range?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

Yes.

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Colton Bean
Tudor, Pickering, Holt

Understood. And then maybe sickling back to NGL marketing. I can appreciate on a year-over-year basis, the impact of contango. But I think on a sequential basis, it also looked like there was a pretty material step down. So just trying to better understand what changed from Q2 to Q3 in the NGL marketing business? And then again, what the expectations are as we move towards the year-end and 2022?

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Justin Kleiderer
VP of NGL Marketing & Supply

Yes, Colton, this is Justin Kleiderer. I mean I could sum it up pretty simply. It's just timing of spread capture, and that's going to change based upon markets.

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Colton Bean
Tudor, Pickering, Holt

Okay. And also then I have a final one here. Brent, you talked on or touched on how far away ethane might need to be pulled from? I guess as you look across your system, whether it's ATEX or MAPL, are there any opportunities that you all see from increased extraction?

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Brent Secrest

I think there's -- Rockies volumes, ATEX to some extent. There's not a whole lot of capacity left on there, but we do have some. And then ultimately, I think the bulk of the volume could come from the Permian, the stuff that's being [reshifted] up there currently.

Operator

I show our last question comes from the line of Michael Lapides from Goldman Sachs.

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Michael Lapides
Goldman Sachs

Congrats on a decent quarter. Real quick, just curious how you're thinking about the battle between Corpus and Houston for crude export volumes. Obviously, export volumes have been pretty weak for the last couple of months. But just curious how you're thinking about the share over the next quarter or so and maybe even over the next 12 to 18 months?

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Jim Teague
Co-Chief Executive Officer

I don't know about the next quarter. I think ultimately, it becomes a battle between Corpus and SPOT. Brent?

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Brent Secrest

Look, to me, what's going on is something that we have preached for a long time about Houston being a market and Corpus being destination as some people get tired of hearing that, but I don't think in terms of the export business, they're one. I think it's just a function of where the pipelines end up and what they have to do.

Ultimately, the value of the barrel is worth more domestically than it is across the water. So that's what you're seeing going on in Houston which -- frankly, we've got customers that have take-or-pay contracts and ultimately, what their netback is, is quite a bit higher domestically across our system in the Gulf Coast. Where we want to be long term is going across the VLCC dock. And ultimately, over time, we think that SPOT can pull the barrels away that want to go to the export markets.

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Randy Burkhalter
Vice President-Investor Relations

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Operator

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