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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q4

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Operator

Good day. And welcome to the RLI Corp. Fourth Quarter Earnings Teleconference. After management’s prepared remarks, we will open the conference up for questions-and-answers.

Before we get started, let me remind everyone that through the course of the teleconference, RLI management may make comments that reflect their intentions, beliefs and expectations for the future.

As always, these forward-looking statements are subject to certain factors and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially. Please refer to the risk factors described in the company’s various SEC filings, including in the annual report on Form 10-K as supplemented in Forms 10-Q, all of which should be reviewed carefully. The company has filed a Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission that contains the press release announcing fourth quarter results.

During the call, RLI management may refer to operating, earnings and earnings per share from operations which are non-GAAP measures of financial results. RLI’s operating earnings and earnings per share from operations consist of net earnings after the elimination of after-tax realized gains or losses and after-tax unrealized gains or losses on equity securities.

RLI’s management beliefs these measures are useful in gauging core operating performance across reporting periods, but may not be comparable to other companies definitions of operating earnings.

The Form 8-K contains a reconciliation between operating earnings and net earnings. The Form 8-K and press release are available at the company’s website at rlicorp.com.

I will now turn the conference over to RLI’s Vice President, Chief Investment Officer and Treasurer, Mr. Aaron Diefenthaler. Please go ahead.

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Aaron Diefenthaler

Thank you, Lydia. Good morning. And welcome to RLI’s final earnings call for 2021. Joining us today are; Craig Kliethermes, President and CEO; Jen Klobnak, Chief Operating Officer; Todd Bryant, Chief Financial Officer; and Jon Michael, Chairman.

Todd will lead us off with relevant financial highlights. Craig and Jen will follow with additional comments on our product portfolio and the current market environment. We will then open the call to questions and Jon will close with some final thoughts. Todd?

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Todd Bryant
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Aaron. Good morning, everyone. Yesterday, we reported fourth quarter operating earnings of $1.26 per share. The quarter’s results reflect very low weather related losses in our property segment, modestly improved underlying loss ratios in our casualty and surety segments, and continued favorable benefits from prior year’s loss reserves. All in, we posted a combined ratio of 80.7 for the quarter and experienced continued growth in topline, which was up 12% in the quarter. On a full year basis, we posted an 86.8 combined ratio and grew premium 19%.

Investment income advanced 7.7% in the quarter and closed the year of 1.4%. Continued strong operating cash flow $104 million in the quarter and $385 million for the year have been additive to our invested asset base.

Realized gains were $12 million in the quarter, while changes in unrealized gains and losses on equity securities totaled $36 million, as the market rallies further to close the year. As mentioned on prior calls, large movements in equity prices between periods can have a significant impact on net earnings, which you can see in the comparative quarterly and year-to-date results. The combination of solid underwriting investment results pushed book value per share to $27.14, up 20% from year end 2020 inclusive of dividends.

Craig and Jim will talk more about premium in a minute, but at a high level all three segments experienced growth as we continue to benefit from favorable market conditions in most areas of our business.

From our underwriting income perspective, the quarter’s combined ratio, as I mentioned, was 80.7, compared to 88 a year ago. Our loss ratio declined 6.6 points, due largely to benign catastrophe activity during the fourth quarter of 2021.

From prior year’s reserves perspective, both four quarters benefited from a similar amount of favorable development, casually posted $26 million of favorable loss emergence across the majority of product lines and over multiple accident years, while surety posted $3 million in favorable emergence. Given the short tail nature of surety, the majority of favorable emergence was on the 2020 accident year.

Moving to expenses compared to last year, our quarterly expense ratio decreased 0.7 points to 41.5. This was, however, elevated from our trend through the first three quarters of 2021. The upward movement is largely reflective of increased performance and incentive-related amounts, which is discussed before are driven by combined ratio, operating return on equity and growth in book value. On a full year basis, our expense ratio declined 0.5 points to 40.3, reflective of improved leverage on our expense base, as net premiums earned rose.

Turning to investments, we realized 1.5% total return for the quarter and 4.7% on the year. Robust equity returns more than offset price declines in fixed income, which fell on a move higher and market yields throughout the year. We remain content to keep putting significant levels of operating cash flow to work, a strategy that helped turn the investment income tide in the quarter.

Apart from capital markets exposure, investee earnings were up considerably from a comparable period in 2020, with Maui, Jim and Prime contributing $3.1 million and $5.3 million, respectively.

On a combined basis investee earnings totaled $37 million for the full year and as we talked about before, well not core to operations continue to be a benefit to earnings. All-in-all, a very good quarter and strong finish to the year.

And with that, I’ll turn the call over to Craig. Craig?

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

All right. Thank you, Todd. Good morning, everyone. A great quarter to finish a very good year. The RLI team delivered once again for all of our stakeholders. As Todd mentioned, we achieved an 81 combined ratio for the quarter and an 87 for the year. This marks our 26th consecutive year of underwriting profitability.

The consistent results and value that we’ve delivered to our shareholders is directly correlated to our customer focus, hallmark underwriting discipline and ownership culture. With this in mind, we delivered 12% topline growth for the quarter and 19% for the year. The quarterly growth we reported is more representative of the underlying momentum when taking into account the rebound of our public transportation business this year.

Growth in underwriting profitability were realized across all segments and all major products in our portfolio. Recent catastrophe activity, rising labor, material and social inflation, as well as rising reinsurance costs should provide continued pressure on rate levels going forward.

We believe this is the market we can thrive in. That’s rates are still moving up broadly, but requires good underwriting selection to differentiate and truly understand the risk reward equation. We think that the strong collaboration between our underwriters, claims and analytical teams results in some advantage in our favor.

I will now introduce Jen Klobnak, a 20-year veteran of RLI and our Chief Operating Officer who will provide more detail on our segment results.

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Jen Klobnak
Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Craig, and good morning, everybody. Starting with casualty, we produce an 87 combined ratio. Most of the products in this segment contributed to our topline growth of 9% for the quarter. Rates were up 6% overall. This is slightly lower than last quarter and it’s primarily driven by our executive products group, which is our D&O portfolio. Their rates are still up double digits, but the increases are more moderate than the significant highs in the last couple of years. In fact, nearly all casualty products are still achieving positive rate in the mid-single digits range.

Premium growth was most notable in our personal umbrella, excess liability and transportation lines. Personal umbrella continues to benefit from marketing and technology investments we’ve made, as well as annual filed rate increases.

Our excess liability product focuses on the construction space, which continues to experience project delays throughout the pandemic. We are benefiting from competitors continuing to provide lower limits than in the past, which creates opportunities for us to participate.

Transportation grew 10%, including a 6% rate change. We continue to see the exposure returning in the public space as school buses and charter buses come back into service. Transportation claims are also increasing, but they have not returned to 2019 levels. This is a trend we’re watching closely.

The casualty portfolio is performing really well overall. We achieved 16% growth for the year on an 85 combined ratio. On January 1st, we renewed reinsurance treaties that support much of this portfolio. We saw mid single-digit rate increases and we characterize the reinsurance market as rational.

Turning to property. This segment drove the difference in our results due to the lack of catastrophe losses in the fourth quarter of 2021 compared to the prior fourth quarter. The segment produced the 69 combined ratio and grew by 23%. Rates were up 7% for the quarter. The market in this segment continues to be challenged by losses, which we believe will support continued rate increases. Competitors are selling shorter limits than in the past, which creates room for us to participate on the insurance seller.

E&S property premium grew by 34% in the quarter. We realized increase rates, witnessed rising building valuations and saw reduced capacity from our MGA and carrier [ph] competitors. All of these changes improve our opportunity in this space. All products in this segment saw an increase in submissions this quarter and for the full year. All of the products also contributed to the 29% growth in premium for the year.

To support properties growth, we purchased $100 million of additional catastrophe reinsurance limit effective January 1st. Reinsurance treaty structures are largely the same as prior years. Although, we did see mid single-digit risk adjusted rate increases on the renewal. We have made active use of reinsurance in the last couple of years, so we expected to see these cost increases.

Finally, surety produced a very positive quarterly result with a 71 combined ratio. Premium grew 7% with all products contributing. The small miscellaneous business is very competitive as other sureties are decreasing rates and increasing their commission. Our focused on service and technology has helped us win and retain business.

The larger commercial business grew organically, the result of strong producer relationships and a consistent appetite. For contract surety, labor shortages and material delays are lengthening projects, and reducing the near-term need for bonds to support new project. Here premium grew by 3% in the quarter.

After recognizing some loss activity earlier this year, strong fourth quarter resulted in a really good 80 combined ratio for the year for this segment. Overall, very strong underwriting performance for the year and I want to thank our underwriting, claims and support teams for their outstanding efforts.

And now, I’ll turn the call back over to Craig.

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

Thank you, Jen. I want to thank all of our associates for delivering differentiating results once again. Our portfolio of products is in good order and our specialty footprint is broad. We are ready and willing to continue growing profitability where disruption and opportunities exist.

I want to close by recognizing Jonathan Michael, who’s very special to our organization. Jon retired at the end of 2021. These results represent his last quarter at the helm and are also emblematic of his track record of success during his 21 year tenure as CEO. Jon has provided exemplary leadership to RLI, to our industry and our community. I would like to recognize just a few milestones during his tenure.

RLI produced an underwriting profit in every year he was CEO and reported underwriting profits in 81 out of his 84 quarters as our leader, which is a remarkable 964 batting average. This has translated into total shareholder return over his tenure of over 2100% or approximately 16% annually, which far exceeds any comparable benchmarks.

I know Jon would agree that good consistent results don’t come without having great teammates, with common goals, shared values and an ownership mindset. I want to thank Jon for his stewardship of our culture and leading our evolution from a contact lens insurance company into one of the most unique and successful companies in the specialty, property and casualty insurance industry.

Time changes, but some things remain constant, Jon built upon and proved and evolved what our founder Jerry Stephens created. As we move forward, we will continue to hold true to what differentiates and makes RLI special, while adapting to changing market and customer needs to remain competitive.

Our commitment to providing great service and building relationships with our customers, while maintaining our underwrite discipline will not change and we will never be complacent or satisfied with the status quo. Rest assured we will continue to evolve our company while staying true to the thing that makes us different, because being deferred works.

Thank you, Jon, and thank you everyone for joining us this morning. I’ll now turn it over to the moderator to open up for questions.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from Cullen Johnson of B. Riley Securities. Your line is open.

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Cullen Johnson
B. Riley Securities

… the property is still mid single-digit in casualty and surety, would you expect property to kind of continue to be the leader here at least in the near-term?

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Jen Klobnak
Chief Operating Officer

Cullen, this is Jen. I think the beginning of your question was cut a bit. I’m assuming you’re talking about growth by segment and premium or just to clarify?

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

Cullen, maybe you can…

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Cullen Johnson
B. Riley Securities

That’s right. Rate increases?

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Jen Klobnak
Chief Operating Officer

Oh! Rate increase.

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Cullen Johnson
B. Riley Securities

Sure. Sure. Yeah. So with rate increases in property kind of being the highest, but still solid in casualty/surety, do you expect that trend to kind of persist in the near-term?

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Jen Klobnak
Chief Operating Officer

Cullen, this is Jen. I would say that, a lot of it’ll depend on how everyone reacts to the January 1st reinsurance renewal. Obviously, a lot of people place their renewal January 1st, and I’m sure there was a lot of change in what people purchased and how much they paid. So my expectation would be that property would continue to have some support, because I know, obviously, we paid a little bit more and I respect their real estate as well.

On the casual side, that market seems to be a little more reasonable, but yet, the reinsurers are charging more for specialty auto access coverages. So there should be some support there as well. So we’ll see how it plays out.

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Cullen Johnson
B. Riley Securities

Okay. Great. Thanks. That’s helpful. And then, I’m looking at the surety segment, as a strong quarter of underwriting, could you talk about maybe just what drove loss expense, or perhaps, the lack thereof this quarter?

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Todd Bryant
Chief Financial Officer

Cullen, this is Todd. Really if you look at and I talked a bit about it, and you’ll see really from a prior year reserve perspective, there was some added benefit there. So I think we had three quarters this year where it was favorable, we had one that was unfavorable. But often it’s the more recent view as the actuaries are taking a look at things. So I don’t think there’s really anything outside of that. That I would say is of note.

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Cullen Johnson
B. Riley Securities

Okay. Thanks. That’s helpful. Those are all my questions.

Operator

Our next question today comes from Meyer Shields of KBW. Please go ahead.

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Meyer Shields
KBW

Thanks. My first question is actually also on surety, I just want to make sure that there’s no adjustments to prior quarters in the surety loss ratio when we take out the reserve move?

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

It’s really reserved released driven.

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Meyer Shields
KBW

Okay. I know with prior year, not prior quarter?

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

Prior year, correct.

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Meyer Shields
KBW

Okay. Perfect. I was hoping to get a sense of what you’re expecting for seating commissions on the reinsurance you buy for casualty?

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Jen Klobnak
Chief Operating Officer

So, our casualty reinsurance that we purchase is generally on excess of loss basis. And so, when you look at the rates that we’re paying in 2022 relative to 2021, we have a few treaties in play that renewed on January 1st, and I would say, the rate change there was between 5% to 10%. Because they cover a lot of different products, the actual amount that we will pay will vary depending on mix change. So depending on which products within casually grow or shrink, that cost is going to vary.

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Meyer Shields
KBW

Okay. That’s perfect. If I can throw one more in, I just -- I’m curious about the accident years contributing to the casualty reserve releases?

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Todd Bryant
Chief Financial Officer

Meyer, it’s Todd. It really was pretty widespread. I mean, if I look at, if we looked at GL, it’s really 17 to 20. You had a decent amount from EPG similar years. So, I mean, it’s pretty widespread, but I would say, the more recent, probably, four years had the larger amount.

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Meyer Shields
KBW

Okay. Perfect. Thank you very much.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question today comes from Mark Dwelle of RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

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Mark Dwelle
RBC Capital Markets

Yeah. Good morning. One of the questions we’ve been getting a lot from investors relates to inflation, could you talk about which lines of business you’re most exposed to inflationary pressures on?

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Jen Klobnak
Chief Operating Officer

Sure. Mark, this is Jen. So looking in the property segment, obviously, material costs have some inflation. That varies quite a bit. So depending on the individual material you’re looking for in a construction project, some of them up earlier in 2021 and come back down, others seem to be spiking more towards the end of the year. So it’s a varied impact depending on the actual project.

But, obviously, the cost of materials and property is up a bit, and we see that both in the building valuation component as we’re doing the upfront underwriting, as well as, as we’re doing claim handling at the fact.

I would say, on the life -- in the casualty book, obviously, we constantly deal with medical inflation, but if you look at other types of inflation, the construction projects we work on, so the revenues that we’re looking at to base our premium on are up. We’ve got labor issues, but payroll can be up too, which can be a basis for premium.

As you’re looking at auto, sometimes it takes longer to repair things in that, so we have some business interruption both from a rental car standpoint or rental vehicle standpoint, as well as business interruption back on the property side as we’re trying to replace the location that was impacted.

So it’s somewhat widespread, but it varies as to the impact in the different places then and it’s definitely moving. So we’re watching those trends. We don’t necessarily see a numerical impact in our reserving data. So it’s a little bit more of a story at this point from the claim department, but it is something we’re watching and we’ll continue to monitor in 2022.

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Mark Dwelle
RBC Capital Markets

Thank you. That’s good thorough answer. Same question I have, it’s a little bit of a numbers question. In the -- when I look at the other income line, the Maui, Jim and Prime, when you look at the two individual pieces, the $3.1 million and $5.3 million, it doesn’t -- it adds up to more than the $7.6 million of overall reported other income. What was the other piece?

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

Yeah. There is a little bit on the tax credit side there. It’s not a real large number, but it does have a little bit of an impact.

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Mark Dwelle
RBC Capital Markets

Okay. All right. And then last question I had was just in terms of exposure to cyber and cyber liability in general. Is that something you guys are specifically writing and you talked about what you’re seeing both from a loss standpoint, as well as from a pricing standpoint?

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Jen Klobnak
Chief Operating Officer

Sure. Mark, this is Jen. So, we do write cyber. We had a portfolio that targeted large account cyber within our executive products group, our D&O portfolio. We wrote that business for a few years and earlier this year we decided to exit that line. So we’re actually in runoff at this point and so you’ll see a little bit of impact on that through 2022, was not a large portfolio, but we are running off that part of the book.

We also write for small professionals some cyber coverage. So as part of our package approach to architects and engineers, for example, and other miscellaneous professionals, where we offer property liability, auto, et cetera, we do offer a small bit of cyber as well. These are targeting smaller insurance, smaller accounts, smaller limits, non-targets, hopefully, in the cyberspace.

And so we asked a fair amount of questions of those folks as to how they try to control that exposure and we provide some services to them. And again, we’re -- that’s a fairly small piece of the overall portfolio, but that is an exposure that we do provide coverage for.

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Mark Dwelle
RBC Capital Markets

What kind of limits are you normally writing particularly on the large, I imagine, it’s like $1 million limits on the small even that much, on the large -- larger account, there’s stuff that’s in runoff, what will be the limits on those just in general.

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Jen Klobnak
Chief Operating Officer

So we did write -- so we would be underwriting $5 million limits. I mean, we got up to $10 million before when we started the segment, but now we were down to $5 million at the end. So we have a handful of policies that will runoff over the next year.

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

This is Craig.

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Mark Dwelle
RBC Capital Markets

Okay.

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

If you recall, I think, on previous call we talked about, we heavily reinsured that portfolio. I think we reinsured like 85% of that exposure and is in runoff. So it’s relatively small…

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Mark Dwelle
RBC Capital Markets

Okay.

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

… the overall size of the portfolio.

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Mark Dwelle
RBC Capital Markets

I appreciate the color and thanks. That’s all my questions.

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Todd Bryant
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Mark.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We have no questions in the queue at this time. So I’ll hand back to Mr. Jonathan Michael for some closing remarks.

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Jon Michael
Chairman

Thank you. An excellent quarter and year, and thank you, Craig, for those kind comments. We’ve got a great team here at RLI and it has great strength. I have every confidence in their ability to continue and to deliver even more positive results in the future. Thank you all for attending today’s conference and we’ll talk to you next quarter. Thank you.

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Craig Kliethermes
President and CEO

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to access the replay for this call, you may do so by dialing 1-866-813-9403, with an ID number of 859639. This concludes our conference for today. Thank you for participating and have a nice day. All parties may now disconnect.