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Earnings Call Transcript
2020-Q4

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Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to Q4 and FY2020 TAL Education Group Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.

I would like to hand over the conference over to your first speaker today, Echo Yan, IR Director of TAL. Thank you. Please go ahead.

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Echo Yan
Director IR

Thanks, Operator. Thank you, all, for joining us today for TAL Education Group's fourth fiscal quarter and fiscal year 2020 earnings conference call. The Earnings Release was distributed earlier today. And you may find a copy on the Company's IR website also with the newsletter. During this call, you will hear from Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Rong Luo; Linda Huo, Vice President of Finance; and myself, IR of TAL. Following the prepared remarks, Mr. Luo and Ms. Huo will be available to answer your questions.

Before we continue, please note that the discussions today will contain forward-looking statements, made under the Safe Harbor provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations. Potential risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, those outlined in public filings with the SEC. For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our filings with the SEC. Also, our Earnings Release in this call includes discussions of certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our Earnings Release which contains a reconciliation of the non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures.

I would like now to turn the call over to Mr. Rong Luo. Rong, please.

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Rong Luo
CFO

Thank you, Echo. Good evening, and good morning to you all. Thank you for joining us today on this earnings call. Before I reflect on our Company performance, please allow me to say a few words about the current extraordinary time in China and worldwide. We would like to express our sincere sadness for the great loss of life and our sympathy to those who lost their loved one and to all the others who have directly suffered from this tragic pandemic. But also extend our deep gratitude and appreciations to people from all walks of life, including our employees who has been working hard and doing absolutely everything to fighting against this epidemic.

Our first fiscal quarter revenue performance was impacted by the outbreak of COVID-19 in China and our precautionary measures with respect to the offline business. The negative impact on our offline business was partially offset by the growth in the student enrollments in online courses and related revenues for the quarter.

Net revenue growth in the fourth quarter was 18% year-over-year in U.S. Dollar terms to US$857.7 million and 21% in RMB terms, which is in-line with our forecast reflected in our pre-announcement on February 28.

After the outbreak of COVID-19, total normal priced long-term courses student enrollments increased by 56.6% year-over-year, mostly driven by online enrollment, as well as Xueersi Peiyou small class. GAAP loss for operations was US$41.3 million compared to GAAP income from operations of US$114.7 million in the same period of prior year.

Non-GAAP loss from operations was US$8.4 million compared to non-GAAP income from operations of US$157 million in the same year ago period. As we previously announced on April 7, we discover certain employee's wrong-doing in relation to [indiscernible] in our routine internal auditing process. There was a total revenue impact of around US$86.1 million, or RMB600 or US$2.6 million in the first three quarters of fiscal 2020, as well as corresponding impacts to stop other financial metrics after each quarter of fiscal 2020. The details are available with our Earnings Release published a few hours ago. I would like to reiterate that we will always follow the highest standards of corporate governance and always have zero tolerance for any illegal conduct.

I will now turn the call over to Linda Huo, our Vice President of Finance. She will give you update on our operational progress in the fourth quarter; next to Echo, our IR Director will review the fourth quarter financials. After that, I will update you on our business strategy and discuss our business outlook.

Linda, please.

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Linda Huo
VP Finance

Thank you. I will review the various revenue streams of our tutoring business for the fourth quarter. Let me start with small class and other business which consists Xueersi Peiyou small class, First Leap, Mobby and some other education programs and services. These are accounted for 68% of total net revenue compared to 76% in the fourth quarter.

The revenue growth rate was 6% in U.S. dollar terms and 9% in RMB terms. The lower than year-over-year revenue growth rate was mainly due to two factors: first, the pricing guide refund we offered in February where we had to migrate a new offline small class students to online small class; second, the impact from twin-terms with rescheduling. In this period, during the winter semester, we have migrated all our offline business to our online platform. As you know, Peiyou online average selling price or ASP is lower than that of Peiyou offline. We have offered our customers the pricing GAAP refund as compensation for not providing a perfect service on account after a brief transition, preparation and teacher training time available. Furthermore, we also changed the scheduling of our interim complex [ph] to fully comply with relevant education policies. As a result, Xueersi Peiyou small class' fourth quarter revenue reflects the impact of these factors. Let me emphasize that we are impressed by the immediate flexibility that our teachers, students and parents have demonstrated in the light of this urgent transition.

Xueersi Peiyou small class which remains our stable core business represented 59% of total net revenue in the fourth quarter compared to 66% in the same year ago period. The lower revenue contribution from Xueersi Peiyou was mostly due to the faster growth of xueersi.com online courses, which we accounted for 24% of total revenue in the quarter compared to 17% in the same period last year.

Net revenue from Xueersi Peiyou small class was up by 6% in U.S. dollar terms and 8% in RMB terms. Well, our normal price long-term class enrollments increased by 37% year-over-year. In Q4, normal price long-term Xueersi Peiyou small class ASP decreased by 23% in RMB terms and 25% in U.S. dollar terms year-over-year. Also, mainly due to the pricing that we found we offered, were offline small class move to online small class in February 2020. During these and year-over-year circumstances, since we have all our business delivered via online platform, we will now separately disclose offline and online Peiyou performance until the period is over. And our offline business will have been resumed. Due to the impact of the COVID-19 outbreak Xueersi Peiyou small class revenue from the top five cities, which are Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Nanjing decreased by 3% year-over-year in U.S. dollar terms and accounted for 54% of Xueersi Peiyou small class business.

Revenue generated from cities other than the top five grew by 18% in U.S. dollar terms. The other cities or countries for 46% of the Xueersi Peiyou small class business.

Next, I'd like to briefly discuss our Tutor [ph] one-on-one business. This business sector achieved year-over-year revenue growth of 30% in U.S. dollar terms and 34% in RMB terms. Tutor [ph] one-on-one accounted for approximately 8% of total revenue in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2020, compared to 7%, in the same year ago period.

In Q4, normal price long term Tutor [ph] one-on-one causes ASP increased by 8% in RMB terms and increased by 5% in U.S. dollar terms year-over-year. Now, let me update you on our current capacity expansion strategy for the purpose of Pfizer dealing with the COVID-19 near-term impact we will temporarily slowdown how to spend our current offline capacity growth plan and mainly focus on improving the utilization rate and operational efficiency. However, we are fully confident with regards to the outlook of China's progress in work and school resumption in the China's education industry market potential. We will closely follow the government instructions of offline activity resumption and adjust our capacity expansion plan accordingly, and based on the market demand after these special period.

In Q4, we added net 77 learning centers mainly in December and January, before the epidemic outbreak. We opened a net of 73 new Peiyou small class learning centers and further one-on-one centers and the closed a net of 3 new First Leap, Mobby centers. During the quarter, we added 963 Peiyou small class classrooms. We did not enter any new cities in the first quarter. In all, by the end of February 2020 we had 871 Learning Centers in 70 cities, of which 69 China cities has one Peiyou learning center in the United States, of which 648 were Peiyou small class and international education centers, 95 were newly merged First Leap and Mobby small class and 124 were Tutor [ph] one-on-one.

As for Q1 on fiscal year 2021, till now is the gradual work resumption in different cities as ongoing digital workplace practice, we have conditionally granted 44 Peiyou r small class learning centers. And we expect to add a few more and close down some learning centers based on standard operations. These estimates reflect our current expectations, which is subject to change.

Moving now to our online business. First quarter revenue from yahoo.com grew by 68% in U.S. dollar terms year-over-year, and 72% in RMB terms where normal price long term classes enrollments grew by 96% year-over-year to over US$2 million. Online contributed 24% of total revenue and 44% of the total normal price long term enrollments this culture, compared to 17% of total revenue and 35% of total normal priced long term classes enrollments in the same year ago period respectively. The rapid growth in online business was supported by the current circumstances dropping the secular demand for online education, as well as sales and marketing efforts and retentions of the previous quarters.

In addition, in Q4, normal priced long-term online courses ASP increased by 15% in RMB terms and 17% in U.S. dollar terms year-over-year due to the mixed change of our diversified online course offerings.

With that, I will now turn the call over to Echo Yan for the updates on fourth fiscal quarter financial results.

Echo, please.

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Echo Yan
Director IR

Thanks, Linda. Let me now go through some key financial points for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2020. Growth profit increased by 7.5% to US$451.8 million from US$420.4 million in the same year ago period. Growth margin for the fourth quarter decreased to 52.7% as compared to 57.9% for the same period of last year.

Loss from operations was US$41.3 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2020 compared to income from operations of US$114.7 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2019. Non-GAAP loss from operations, which excluded the share-based compensation expenses was US$8.4 million compared to non-GAAP income from operations of US$137 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2019.

Net loss attributable to toll was US$90.1 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2020 compared to net income attributable to toll of US$99.6 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2019. Non-GAAP net loss attributable to toll which excluded the share based compensation expenses was US$57.2 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2020, compared to non-GAAP net income attributable to toll of US$121.9 million in the same year ago period.

From the balance sheet as of February 29, 2020, the company had US$1,873.9 million of cash and cash equivalents and US$345.4 million of short term investment, compared to US$1,247.1 million of cash and cash equivalents, and US$268.4 million of short term investment as of February 20, 2019. As of February 29, 2020, the company's deferred revenue balance was US$781 million compared to US$436.1 million as of February 28, 2019, representing a year-over-year increase of 79.1%. Deferred revenue primarily consisted of via tuition classes that yield one-off [indiscernible] small class, as well as different revenue related to other businesses.

Now, I will hand the call back to Mr. Luo to briefly update you our strategy execution and to provide you the business outlook of the next quarter. Rong?

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Rong Luo
CFO

Thank you, Echo. Let me update you our current base development strategy. First off, I would like to express my deep appreciations for the quick adaptations that our students, parents, teachers, technology staff and our employees demonstrated in this difficult time, which enabled us to bring all of our content services online and remain in business as much as possible.

In fiscal year 2020 despite of the impact of COVID-19 operates, we have realized a total net revenue growth of 27.7% in U.S. dollar terms, and 32.4% in RMB terms. Breaking down by per different business, total net revenue of payroll increased by 23% in RMB terms. Xueersi.com, our online business increased by 88% in RMB terms, while Tutor [ph] one-on-one increased by 39% in RMB terms year-over-year.

Our overall revenues, as well as the major benefactors have met our full year expectations. On January 26, KR announced the total encashment of RMB100 million special fund for the purpose of doing RMB in the whole of China's efforts to fight against COVID-19; of this RMB100 million, the RMB20 million is a direct donation to charity federations, and RMB80 million is for education-related investment to provide free technology, teaching and training and to other necessary support for the students and the set of partners in the industry in Hubei province and all over China to continue daily studies during this special time.

Xueersi.com, our own education platform, has offered free online courses to students all over China. In addition, we have opened our smart education and opened platform systems to public schools, and others small and medium-sized training companies. In this circumstances, some of our near-term visibility may still be less clearly than in the normal times; but no matter what we believe we have short-term impact on revenues and industry, and we encourage you to see the situation in China is getting materially improved, and the positive change is continuing day-by-day. We'll abide by all government policies and regulations regarding the protection of the national political house [ph]. We will always treat the safety of our students and employees as our first priority and operate our business based on these priorities. Despite a difficult current environment, I would like to emphasize that for the long term, our growth strategy remains unchanged. We will continuously invest to improve our all-around online and offline education technologies, further diversify our products and services offerings, as well as key optimizing all related promotional and operational efficiencies. All in all, as one of the leading companies in China's education market, with a long-term record in education, technology and services, we have full confidence in our future development.

On April 28, TAL's Board of Directors has authorized the repurchase of our two US$500 million of company's common shares over the next 12 months. In addition, the company's management informed the company of their intention to repurchase upto a total US$100 million of the company's common shares, subject to applicable rules under exchange acts. We will disclose further information on the share repurchases in accordance with the rules.

Let me come finally to our business outlook. Based on our current estimates, total net revenue for the first quarter of fiscal 2021 is expected to be between US$875.4 million and US$895.6 million, representing an increase of 30% to 33% on a year-over-year basis. It's not taking into consideration of the impact potential change and exchange rate between RMB and dollars; the projected revenue growth rate is expected to be in the range of 35% to 38% for the first quarter of fiscal 2021.

That concludes my prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Alex Xie from Credit Suisse. Please ask your questions.

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AlexXie

Hi management, thank you for taking my questions. Hopefully, would you please share more details about your guidance for the first quarter of FY21 in terms of outlook in different business lines? And secondly, what will be expectation for the margins in the first quarter of FY21? And we have seen massive investment in online, I think in the fourth quarter, what do you plan for the first quarter of FY21 for online investment plans? Thank you.

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RongLuo

Thank you, Alex. Just as we know, Q4 is a very difficult time and even coming closer to Q1, like March and April today, still that's no good time for us. I think all of our current business is under high pressure, same as our counterparts in this industry. Let me try to give you more clarity on my Q1 guidance. I think I tried to split into three segments; number one, the Peiyou small class business. I think right after Q4 -- our Q4 in February, we are -- you know, the up rate is totally -- that's surprise to us; so we have very few time to move the students from offline to online. But coming to Q1, we do a much better job than what we did in Q4, so we work in [indiscernible] Q1, the Peiyou small class still will maintain our wide healthy growth in the range of 20% to 30%. And the one-on-one business which is also quite impacted by the uprate of COVID-19; so we also moved them from offline to online by the growth off the one-on-one things they have is less than before, I think Q1 in general, we can only grow maybe high single-digit.

And the number three segment is our Xueersi Online school. Xueersi Online school-- actually their growth has been accelerated by this kind of tough situation, because the online became only available offering to the students if they want to continue to study. So Xueersi.com, the online school business, will continue to grow. I think it can grow maybe in triple digit, which can provide us some upsets over there. And so our Q1 guidance today have reflecting all of these key information from our mainstream business, and this guidance does not include anything from acquisition or other activities. I think the reason we give guidance still based on our mainstream business. Number two, I think-- about your question, about the margin, our counterparts, what they experienced in this quarter, our Q1 margin is also under pressure.

And let me try to give you a more clarity over there. Number one, in Xueersi Online school business, I think we are continuously offering the free course to K-12 students all over China. And this has started from February and will continue maybe in March and April and even today. So these are free classes to all students. And we believe that's a very important move for an education company. That's something we should do, but, of course, this will cost some money. And, you know, second place, I think we see more and more students moving from offline to online and the numbers of online students has a huge time spike, they also require a certain level of investments from different perspective. Number one, we need to invest more money and more energy on the teaching quality. We need to invest more on our teachers, we need to train our teachers, we need to have enough teacher assistance; and we need to make sure we spend enough time on the teaching qualities to make sure this can satisfy the parents and students. The teaching quality is always the key and the first priority no matter if it's offline business or online business.

Secondly, we also need to optimize our online teaching technologies and enrich the products and contents. I think a few years ago, we only had maybe less than 100,000 students so the pressure is much less. But today we have millions of students studying our platform, I think the difficulty and technical challenges will hugely improve. So we have to make investment to make sure the quality of the platform and the interactions of the platform can be a mix; we can't rely on what we invested before, we need to continue to invest in major technologies and platforms can be one of the best in this industry. And in the third case, we also need to invest some money on the selling -- in the promotion and marketing strategy because you know, right before this period, most of my students [indiscernible], they come from Tier one and Tier two cities, but today we're finding more and more students coming from the low Tier geographies, and even from some places they don't know us in before. So we still require a certain level of sales and marketing invested over there to make sure we can capture the market share.

And lastly, you know, share stock, the first online school business in Q4 is already a 24% of my total business, but margin, I think in Q1, more or less, we have some chance to make sure that we can run the online sector and almost breakeven, but still compelled to our Xueersi Peiyou business, I think our probability is much less. And even today, we believe Xueersi Online, the most important priority for them is to get more market share, to have more students, to teach more students, and even can offer our paid services or free services to students all over China, so the market share is still a key. In the second place, we also have some challenges coming from Peiyou part. You know, we moved all of Peiyou offline students to online, we still -- we also gave some of the promotions or coupons to the Peiyou offline students when they moved from offline to online. So this will lead to Peiyou ASP will drop a little bit. I think Q4 the product is inferior because we moved them from offline to online, the Peiyou ASP dropped 23%. In Q1 it will be better than Q4, but still the churn of Peiyou ASP is still dropping. And this kind of dropping will lead to the reducing our revenue and will also lead to the pressure to our bottom line.

And I also want to talk about our Pre-K business, because when the students are moving from offline to online, especially for Pre-K business for the students aged from three to six, it's very tough. It's really tough. I think they, our Pre-K, they expect more time and then our normal K-12 sectors to persuade the students moving from offline to online, ensure they're making progress. But compared to the other sectors, they're still a little bit behind, which will also create some kind of pressure to the bottom line. This is not only for us, if you're going to see some other companies in this area, they also share the same pain.

Lastly, we're also doing the small education and the open platform business while willing to open our platforms and support more public schools and small and medium sized training companies to make sure that we're helping them to move offline to online, and also this will cost us some money. Today we are supporting many more times of the customer today than the number we had right before the virus. So this is also kind of challenge in the cost side to our total P&L. And so, all in all, I think we have some challenges coming from Xueersi Online, can pay us [indiscernible] business, and this -- all of this will lead to some pressures of my bottom-line in Q1. But again, we still believe that's a very good -- that is some necessary costs and natural money we have to spend. And that's also the short-term impact if we put them in one year or maybe three years' time, it will be beneficial from there.

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Alex Xie
Credit Suisse

Just a quick follow up. Do you think the online investment in the missing two quarters front-loaded or do you think online investment in the whole year of FY21 just increased?

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RongLuo

Can I clear your question; do you mean the investment in Q1 will lead to…

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Alex Xie
Credit Suisse

Because I think in this year, the promotion schedule of Xueersi Online school was earlier than before; so is this front-loaded schedule ending or the whole budget is more than before?

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RongLuo

Okay. Number one, I think if we can recap story last year, last year actually if you can go back to my screen, maybe last year, Q1 or Q2, with me -- at that time actually we were in a rush mode to do that kind of promotions on the -- go into the war. But this year, I think we are much more prepared than before, and because of this special time -- and even today, a lot of schools are still closed in China, online we can only offer for the students, so we spend the money accordingly to measure and capture opportunity. And but today, I think a little bit too early to judge what the full-year number will be because, you know, the situation changes every day. And we're seeing China's getting maturely better and better. So today, I don't have a kind of a full-year view on this. All I can say is we believe Q1 is the right time to invest, and we believe Q1 can help us to grow our online much better than before. I think last year in January we saw 88% in Q1 is triple digit growth; so we'll try to capture the market share and all the new opportunities we have today. And -- but we will worry cautiously to bring to my investment or marketing quarter-over-quarter, so I can give you some kind of colors for the next quarter but I can't give you for the full year. And let's keep our eyes open, and the Q1 is positive from what we have seen, anything materials or anything we can come up with your numbers.

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Alex Xie
Credit Suisse

Thank you.

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RongLuo

Thank you, Alex.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Li from Citi. Please ask your question.

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MarkLi

Hi, management. Thanks for taking my question. I want to ask, actually, I think for this quarter, the online revenue growth is a little bit slow. Could you share any reason for that? And I noticed for the upcoming quarter, there seems to be some price adjustment or higher prices for the One-South [ph]. So what is your strategy and how much does it help, do you think, going forward? Thank you.

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RongLuo

Okay, I think Q4, Q4 online school gross is around 70% plus minus. And that's part of-- that's because, you know, last year Q4 actually was also a big year, a big quarter class if we put them into maybe at quarter three. And come into Q1 and show us online gross was accelerated because of special time which is also quite normal across the board if you're going through some counterparts in these areas for like the South [ph] companies. And so, we believe for the whole year, we have chance to grow Xueersi Online school and kind of the way a healthy growth and accelerate a little bit which is a very good opportunity for us to gain more market share.

And your question [Technical Difficulty] online schools price; let me give you a more color over this. Number one, the reason why we want to do Xueersi online school is because we wish for it to online operate to serve more people, more students. At the same, that's why I said before in earnings call, a similar purpose for Xueersi Online school is to provide affordable solutions to the students, as many as possible. Affordable means we don't have any intention to say we want to make the shots only offering us kind of over-- high-priced product. No, we want to give them fair price and affordable price to all students. So we have some product in the price maybe few thousands per year, we also have some product in the price few hundred a year. So specific to this -- maybe particular products at the price up and down I don't have too much common about that. But what I can say is actually in Q4 if you can see that my online ASP is dropping, and my Q1 and even in the coming year what we want to do is recover more students.

So all in all, we believe the key is to take care of more students in an affordable way. We don't have any intentions to make a high-priced product or high-profit products. We wish we can insert more people, as many as possible.

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Mark Li
Citigroup

Okay, thank you. Very clear.

R
RongLuo

Thank you, Mark.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Yuzhong Gao from CICC. Please ask your question.

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YuzhongGao

Hey, management, thanks for the opportunity. So my question is on your offline business. So given that 73 of Peiyou learning center were added during the quarter, which was a meaningful acceleration, so how should we think about your offline strategy in 2020 or 2021? Particularly on your capacity expansion plan, I wonder if you are being more optimistic about this, given there seems to be a bigger offline and market consolidation opportunity. Thank you.

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LindaHuo

Thank you. As for the capacity plan, as we have just mentioned a bit, that we're in a current special period that temporarily slowed down and suspend some of our current learning centers, as well as classroom expansion plan. Our team will be focusing more on optimization work of internal operational efficiencies, and controlling of the unnecessary offline cost during the COVID-19 impacts period. Our company has many years of execution experience of capacity expansion. We have the capacity and we have the capability to make impact adjustment of our near term and long term capacity expansion rate based on the actual market needs and seek the best balance of online and offline investment. I believe now, we all share the same wish that this epidemic can be completely controlled worldwide, and the normal life can be completely resumed. China has achieved great progress and we will closely follow the government instructions of offline activity resumption and take our actions accordingly.

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RongLuo

Let me try to add more color about this. In the first place, frankly speaking, we don't want to be optimistic or maybe pessimistic on when we can go back to our normal offline business. We have no idea. All you need to do is we're 100% applying the government's policy integrations and make meaningful preparations. In the second place, I think after this virus, a lot of students are forced to study online. After that some of the students, they would choose to stay in online environment, and some of the students, they will decide to go back offline but no matter what I think a certain percentage of the students who get used to the online offerings will get to use online more often than before. So seeing our perspective today in the short term over low down the new learning and expansion pace. Also, we're looking into more spaces to optimize the network. For learning centers with low efficiency, we'll follow our standard operation procedures to close them, or maybe in some area, we'll try to optimize and improve the efficiencies. When the things become more clear, maybe next quarter, or maybe the next two quarters, when things become more clear, we're in the same market, whatever you can see, that's something we can see. When things are more clear, we'll decide it. We're also fully prepared, how we can leverage our advantages in the offline operations in the past 17 years to do our right business. Today, what I can say is, we prefer to take a relatively conservative approach in a network development temperately and we'll wait and see what will happen in the coming one or two quarters. With things getting better we will react quickly. Thank you, Yuzhong.

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YuzhongGao

Thank you, very helpful.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sheng Zhong from Morgan Stanley. Please ask your question.

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ShengZhong

Thank you for taking my question. I want to follow up about the share stock comp pricing question. You mentioned that you have more diversified courses. Can I confirm whether it includes your pre-K new program as a whole or [indiscernible]? And if so, can you provide us some color on how big is the program now? If we look at the Xueersi courses on the website, in the summer is to go the price up about 10% for primary school and middle school and up a little bit more for high school courses. Wondering if we see surprise trends or do you still think that for the overall blend, how should we look at this? Actually, if we look at summer cost price, it looks like the share stock comp price is very close to Peiyou online price already. So also wondering if management can give some strategies on how the company position xueersi.com and Peiyou online? Thank you very much.

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RongLuo

Thank you, Sheng Zhong. Let me try to capture three questions. Number one, I think we have a huge maybe the normal price student enrollments in Xueersi online in the main subjects like math and Chinese and English so we are able to develop some other offerings on top of that. I think the shareholders mentioned just now that actually is a very early stage product and we need to be patient about all of these products divided into a meaningful business. Today is still in a very early stage and they have a lot of space they need to improve. Besides that, I think previously we were also adding for example in the online coding products and some other products. Yes, your mention is quite right, we're also adding some pre-K products on top of Xueersi online platforms. With all of these products in place, our purpose is very simple. We try to leverage online technology to serve more people in a more affordable way. The price for all of these products are quite different. We decide the pricing, not because we want to charge high price. That is because we want to serve more people. The pricing strategy of online will serve our purpose to get more market share, to serve more people and to make people more satisfied.

The second question about the price increase in the specific products, I think on one side we pay the price a little bit high but on the other side, we also give a lot of promotions and coupons and incentives for the parents and students if they can finish the work. All in all, actually, and as you've studied in Q4 you probably see that we dropped by around 10%. In Q1, more or less, we will consider seeing the change we made continue. In general, we believe online the price is now the key priority we want to persuade. What we try to do is we measure a product. The product portfolio is better and better and more and more and we can accept more people. That still is a market share again. Number three, you're asking the question about the Peiyou live. How to position the Peiyou live and the Xueersi online school. The Xueersi online school is actually the broad strategy. We try to use this product [indiscernible] from all over China and their level of difficulty will relatively lower the other Peiyou products. We wish that it can cover more people not only from tier one, tier two places but also coming from low tier cities. We're also very happy to see when we start to offer free classes to students in China in the past two months, we have seen more and more people coming from the low tier geographies in the countryside, has tend to rush in our performs.

That's good things we want to see. We want to have more people. Peiyou live actually is highly connected to the Peiyou mainstream business. They will more localized content. They were running in that depth strategy. They were more localized and they will try to provide more tailor-made products to the students in that local city. Even today, we don't make it perfect, but that's our key directions. So online school is a broad strategy while Peiyou live is highly connected to the local content depth strategy. That's the positioning for our products in this market.

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ShengZhong

That's very clear. Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Felix Liu from UBS. Please ask your question.

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FelixLiu

Good evening management. Thank you very much for taking my question. My question is a follow up on the online strategy. First, you previously mentioned several areas of investments such as teaching quality, technology and selling and marketing. I'm wondering between those three, what are your priorities in Q1 and maybe for the rest of the year how should we rank in terms of the amount of spending? Secondly, I think as you mentioned, there is a shift in our user base in terms of xueersi.com. I'm just wondering what that means? Any shift in our selling or marketing strategy going forward? Thirdly, I'm wondering if you could share the size of the teaching staff for xueersi.com such as the instructors and tutors. Thank you.

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RongLuo

Okay, so let me try to recap your question first before I answer anything. Number wise, what's my priority of investment in different areas for Xueersi Online School, right?

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FelixLiu

Yes.

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RongLuo

What's number two question?

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FelixLiu

Number two, is there any change in selling and marketing strategy given we now have more customers in lower tiers today? Number three is the size of our teaching staff in terms of number of instructors and tutors.

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RongLuo

Okay. I think for the Xueersi online school actually is not-- sometimes people will say that online is a new animal in this space but frankly speaking when we're running this model for a few years we treated Xueersi online school as a normal business already. In the last Q4 is around 24% of revenue and 44% of enrolments already. Almost half of the enrolments coming from the online space. The investment of priority we'll be saying number one is investment in the teaching quality. That's always the key. We need to make sure our contents and services we deliver to our students can meet their needs. Especially when the number of students has quickly increased from 200,000 to a few millions, the challenge will totally differ so we need to make sure our content development team and the teacher team and all can work together to make sure we deliver high quality. Quality is everything.

Second is the product and technology, especially technology. I think probably you guys can remember a story in the very beginning right up to this outbreak of the COVID-19. Online platform will actually be crushed because they can't bear the high pressure from the markets. We are one of the platforms who are doing a little bit better than the other one. We're not perfect, but we are a little bit better than the other one. This kind of level of quality requires a significant level of investment all the time. I think in the first priority definitely we need to spend the relative level of certain marketing to measure our product and reach more people can improve our awareness. Let more people know us. Same as we'll see the other counterparts in this sector, what they did in the past, and most recently, so we need to maintain we are still competitive to this market in selling and marketing status.

The second question, you're asking about what's the policy change for sales and marketing. What I can say is actually we have running some promotions in the past two to three years. We get a lot of lessons. This year, we have some kind of new opportunities and we provide a lot of free courses to online students, which lead to more students come to rushing my platform. This is something new; even today, we cannot figure out what's the maybe significant difference from this approach to the traditional investment approach. What we are doing today is carefully go into every channel and use very cautious AI model to look into that efficiency. We'll also go through the channels we have, the new channels who just happen in the past few months to make sure our investment philosophy is similar. Even today, if you ask me what's the best way to spend the money I don't have perfect answers, but what we can say is we try varied cost to every channel including maybe CPS [ph] channel or maybe the printing channels. We closely look into the results and make necessary adjustments accordingly.

Number three; the size of our instructors, the teacher assistance. What needs re-emphasize is it's very important that we have the qualified and the good quality teacher systems in this model that teach assistance cannot betray only part of the machine in this model. They are real people and they're real teachers. They have received good enough training and they're also taking care of the students very carefully. When they talk to the parents and talk to students, they are giving a lot of knowledge and a lot of help to the students. We as management we cherish all of their efforts very much so we'll continue to increase the size of the teacher assistants in our Xueersi Online platform, based on the needs from the students. If you asking me the detailed numbers of how many teacher assistants we need, what I can say is we need to balance between the efficiency and we need to balance and the final result satisfaction for the parents. If you ask me to pick one side, one is efficiency, the other one is the students' satisfaction rate; I'll pick the latter one. We treat the parents' and students' satisfactions more than efficiencies.

So we need to run in a company because today we have served more than millions of students, we need to run this platform in a much more balanced view. Thank you.

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FelixLiu

Thank you very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Alex Liu from China Renaissance. Please ask your question.

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AlexLiu

Thank you, management. I have two questions. The first one is on the Peiyou online. Obviously right now, virtually everybody study online right now but as things go normalized, how should we think about the standalone margin for Peiyou online? As Peiyou online grow bigger and bigger, how does this business impact over long term Peiyou small class business margin target? This is the first question. The second question is for the xueersi.com business, how important does maintaining the number one in the market mean if everybody in the market is losing money? Thank you.

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RongLuo

Okay, I think the Peiyou live because most Peiyou online students actually they already come from Peiyou offline before, so they don't need to spend that much money on marketing spending to acquire new students. So the margin outlook for the Peiyou live is much better than the other one. With the contribution from Peiyou live gets bigger and bigger more or less we'll have some kind of leverage in my perspective coming from there. But most recently we moved all the Peiyou offline to Peiyou online so we have running the Peiyou small class and the Peiyou flat means [ph] now. So all of these we need to base on the reaction of the students and the parents and make necessary adjustments over there. So, I can't call my wife thedirection for that, my wife will say it's -- we are seeing more and more students and parents they're finding these offers much more than before so we -- we're also seeing well healthy growth coming from Peiyou live; we are confident about that.

And the second question is asking me is it important to maintain number one, in the online education sector, is it important to be the first players in this market? Frankly speaking, in our company, we have one very important values called [indiscernible]; being stronger is much more important than being bigger. Personally we don't have any kind of intention to say we need to maintain number one in this market because number one, saying number one means the size, the volume. What we care more is the quality. We strongly believe if we can serve the students well we can let all the parents feel satisfied and we can use our online products and offerings with more automation and even more impact products with the needs that we can bring in the end. For the short term or maybe even long term rather than the volume or the actual size is number one. I think that care less to us. So far because we are the first movers in this market, so we still have some advantages. We are still bigger than the other one in this market. But again, being bigger is not our priority. Being stronger and being more competitive and being better to the students and the parents, that's our key priority. Thank you.

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AlexLiu

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Unfortunately, we have run out of time for any further questions. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.