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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q2

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Mikko Helander
executive

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Kesko's Second Quarter 2023 Release Call. I'm Kesko's CEO, Mikko Helander. I have, together with me, our Business Division Presidents, Jorma Rauhala, Ari Akseli and Sami Kiiski, as well as CFO, Jukka Erlund, and Investor Relations, Hanna Jaakkola.Today's headline is strong performance on a challenging market and it describes well our second quarter overall. Now, I will first give an overview of our business performance in the first quarter -- excuse me, in the second quarter. After the presentation, we will be happy to take questions, both by phone and via chat.Key events in the second quarter. In grocery trade, sales improved compared to earlier this year. Kespro continued to perform well. In building and technical trade, results were down due to weakened construction volumes. In car trade, sales and profit were at a record level, thanks to deliveries of cars that have been ordered earlier. During the second quarter, cost efficiency improved, thanks to implemented efficiency improvement measures. Cash flow from operating activities was strong.Net sales were at the same level as the year before and in comparable terms, net sales were down by 0.8%. The net sales totaled EUR 3.1 billion. Net sales increased in grocery trade as well as in car rate. Rolling 12 months net sales were nearly EUR 12 billion. Comparable operating profit for second quarter was EUR 207.6 million. It decreased EUR 28.4 million. Operating margin for the quarter was 6.7%. Operating profit increased in car trade. The rolling 12 months operating profit was nearly EUR 770 million and operating margin, 6.4%.Return on capital employed, one of our strategic targets was on a good level, 15.1%. It decreased but was well above our strategic target level of over 14.5%. Return on capital employed increased in card trade year-on-year and decreased in building and technical trade as well as grocery trade. Our financial position is strong. Cash flow strengthened year-on-year as working capital management improved in all 3 divisions. Interest-bearing net debt increased as a result of investments in store sites and logistics acquisitions and growth in working capital. Net debt to EBITDA was 0.7. This key figure was also well below our strategic target of at maximum 2.5.In grocery trade, good result in food trade. Net sales totaled EUR 1.6 billion and grew by EUR 73 million. It was up by 4.7%. Net sales for Kespro's foodservice business grew strongly and sales to K Group grocery store chains grew too. In grocery trade, comparable operating profit for second quarter was EUR 118.4 million and it decreased by EUR 5.4 million. Profitability was 7.3%. Profitability in grocery trade was boosted by the strong sales growth in Kespro's foodservice business, but weakened as a result of price competition and cost increases due to inflation. Rolling 12 months operating profit was nearly EUR 460 million.Grocery trade key topics in second quarter. Market is still price-driven. Price inflation for groceries was 10.9%. Campaigns and other marketing efforts worked well, customer visits and sales in K Group grocery stores increased. Grocery sales in K Group stores grew by 4.6%. This fell short of the market, but less than in the first months of the year. Kespro sales were up by 9.8% and exceeded the market development. K-Citymarket's non-food sales increased by 1.3%. Online grocery sales was up by 3.8%. During the quarter, Norwegian online grocery operator, Oda announced that they will exit the Finnish market.In building and technical trade, profitability weakened but remains still good. Net sales decreased by 10.8% to EUR 1.146 billion. Net sales for technical wholesale increased by 3.8%. Net sales for building and home improvement trade decreased for both B2B and B2C trade. Net sales development in euro terms was impacted by currencies, especially by the weakening of the Swedish and the Norwegian currencies against the euro. The comparable operating profit totaled EUR 72 million and decreased by EUR 35.2 million. The comparable operating profit decreased in all operating countries as a result of a decline in net sales.Net sales in building and home improvement rate decreased in both B2B and B2C trade as the construction market was down compared to second quarter last year. The profitability in technical wholesale was also impacted by Elektroskandia acquired this spring where profitability was below that. Of the rest of the business, Elektroskandia's result was also impacted by a one-time expense to EUR 1.6 million related to fair value of inventories. I would like to underline that EUR 72 million in result and 6.3% operating market in this current operating environment is a strong result.Building and technical trade second quarter key topics for building and home improvement trade. Rising inflation and interest rates have affected the overall construction activities and it has clearly decreased in Northern Europe, especially in new building construction. Building and home Improvement net sales and profit decreased in all operating countries. Sales decreased in both B2B and B2C trade. Operating margin for building and home improvement rate was at a good level of 6.1% despite the weakened market. Operating margin in the biggest market, Finland was at a good level at 8.3%. Market share continued to strengthen further.Key topics for technical wholesale. Net sales were up by 3.8%, but in comparable terms, net sales were down by 5.3%. Sales grew in Norway, but were done in the other operating countries. Operating margin declined to 5.5%. The most significant reason behind the operating margin decline was, as I said, the fact that the profitability of Elektroskandia in Norway was lower than the margin of the rest of the business. However, integration is proceeding according to plan. Acquisition is expected to bring significant synergies and strengthen Onninen's profitability in Norway in upcoming years. Operating margin in Onninen's biggest market, Finland is at a good level at 8.2% and market share continued to grow further in the second quarter.Strong result in car trade. In car trade, net sales for second quarter grew by 25% and was EUR 338 million. Net sales grew in all car businesses, but declined in sports trade. Rolling 12 months net sales were nearly -- sorry, over EUR 1.2 billion. These figures include also sports trade starting from the beginning of second quarter. The comparable operating profit totaled EUR 24.3 million and decreased by EUR 9.2 million. Operating margin was 7.2%. Profitability improved, thanks to strong sales growth and division's recent transformation.Car trade key topics. New car deliveries increased significantly year-on-year and thanks to that, net sales and operating profit increased. Sales development was good also in used car sales and services. Order book for new cars remained above normal levels but due to weakening market, new car orders have decreased clearly compared to second quarter last year. Sports trade is part of the car trade division as of 1st of April. Sales in sports trade decreased due to weakened consumer demand.EBIT of EUR 208 million can be considered a strong performance in a challenging market. As you know, current operating environment is challenging for -- is challenging companies. Inflation is high. Interest rates have risen resulting in a weakened purchasing power. On the other hand, employment is high and there is a shortage of skilled labor. The whole energy market has faced a transformation and not to forget Russia's offense war in Ukraine and geopolitical tensions.The importance of good strategy growth in a challenging market. Kesko is in a good shape to generate profits also in the current situation. We have a good strategy focusing on our own strengths. Strong customer relationships, some 2 million daily customer visits as well as ability to respond quickly to changes in operating environment. We are continuously improving our efficiency and managing cost ratio. Our balance sheet is strong and we use efficiently our capital. We continue the investments in growth and efficiency as well as also acquisitions and their successful integration and continue to be important also in future.Also in this stage, I would like to underline we have succeeded well in improving efficiency and managing our cost ratio. Fixed costs are down by EUR 5.5 million despite high inflation. We have cut costs and carried out saving measures in all divisions and group common operations. There is a 2.6% reduction in personnel expenses despite significant wage inflation. We have also realized significant savings with improved management and decision-making practices. Also, foreign exchange rates have had some positive impact on our cost development. As a result, all of that and as a result of our strategy execution, profit generation is strong also in a weaker market.And lastly, outlook and guidance for 2023. Outlook. In the grocery trade division, B2C trade is estimated to remain stable and the foodservice market to grow. Inflation will increase sales but also causes cost to rise. Operating profit is expected to remain at a good level. In the building and technical trade division, the market is expected to decline compared to 2022. New building construction is estimated to decrease but renovation building grow slightly. Operating profit is expected to remain at a good level.In the card trade division, car availability has improved, but orders for new cars are expected to remain below last year's level. Demand for used cars and services is estimated to remain at a good level. Profitability is expected to remain good also in car trade. And then guidance for 2023. Kesko estimates that its comparable operating profit in 2023 will be EUR 680 million-EUR 760 million. Before the company estimated that its comparable operating profit would be in the range of EUR 680 million-EUR 800 million. The specified guidance is based on developments in the first half of the year as well as updated estimates on weakened development in the construction market. Key uncertainties impacting Kesko's outlook are developments in inflation and interest rate levels and Russia's ongoing offensive war in Ukraine.Ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Thank you, Mikko, for the presentation. And now it's time for questions. [Operator Instructions]

Operator

The next question comes from Anna Schumacher from BNP Paribas Exane.

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Anna Schumacher
analyst

I have a couple if that's okay. First one, Although, food inflation is still high, we are starting to see reports that food inflation is coming down. Is this something you are starting to experience with your suppliers? And if so, is it being passed on to your customers? My second question, sorry, my second question is you shortened your guidance range for implying operating profit for 2023. Are you able to comment more on the specific drivers that made you realize you should shorten it?

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Could you please repeat the first question? It was -- line was a bit bad. You talked about the OpEx or please...

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Anna Schumacher
analyst

Sorry, my first question was on food inflation and that although it is so high, it has started, you started to see reports that food inflation is coming down. Is that something you're starting to experience and discuss with suppliers? And if so, is that being passed on to customers?

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Food inflation.

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Mikko Helander
executive

Let's start first from first question. And you are right, absolutely right that finally, we can see some positive development in food inflation. Anyhow, we should remember that still inflation is unusual high, but we can see now some positive development. All in all, when inflation will go down, it is definitely very positive development for Kesko for our B2C business as well as for B2B business. We are extremely happy that even in current situation, when inflation has been unusual high, we have succeeded so well and we have succeeded to grow and maintain high profitability in our grocery division.But Ari, maybe you can continue and open more detail this outlook and development from your business point of view.

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Ari Akseli
executive

And it's exactly like Mikko mentioned earlier that food inflation is clearly coming down. And it's always positive sign for the point of view of the Kesko, because when market is very much price driven, when it's usually the case when it's high inflation, it's more difficult to Kesko to gain market share. Now, it's getting better and all the estimates coming from Europe is that it will keep on going down to prices. Good example is, for example, toilet papers have come down already about 15% of the price of them.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

And then Ana was asking about the guidance for 2023, a little bit more about the drivers behind the guidance.

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Mikko Helander
executive

As we mentioned, we have updated our guidance, especially because outlook in construction industry is now more negative. But all in all, we are extremely happy that in current circumstances, we are maintaining such a high profitability in all our 3 divisions. And we believe and we feel that this is extremely strong message that Kesko is on the right track and we have rock solid strategy and strategy work in all divisions. And due to that, we can maintain, as I mentioned, good profitability. Our updated guidance, I see and I feel is very strong message from that.

Operator

The next question comes from you to Jutta Rahikainen from SEB.

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Jutta Rahikainen
analyst

I have 2 questions, if I may. So, the first one is on the building and technical trade. Now we are seeing the cyclicality hitting the top line and also the bottom line the earnings. So, could you enlighten us a bit about your actions mainly in our cost to battle this new and tougher business landscape? So that's the first one. And then maybe I'll take the second one. Also now, so on the grocery trade, EBIT, it remains still very good and just slightly below last year. I'm reading your report here, and it says that Kespro was still doing well. So, should I read it that Kespro actually improved EBIT still in this quarter year-on-year? And then also on the grocery trade EBIT, how is the key retailer during these days on the profitability?

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Mikko Helander
executive

Let's start from the first question. And as you know, market in building and technical trade is challenging, but despite challenging market, despite the declining demand everywhere, we are performing extremely well, especially because we have such a good business platform. We have strong position in home improvement, building and home improvement business as well as we are one of the leading players in Northern Europe in technical trade as well as we operate strongly in Finland, Sweden, Norway. Those are wonderful countries and markets. As well as we should remember that steadily year after year also this year, we have succeeded improve our internal operations, operational performance, cost efficiency and that helps us also to maintain a good profitability in current circumstances.We can see and we feel strongly that we are in excellent position to expand and make even better profit in future when one day market will come back to normal and recover. And of course, sooner or later, we will see also this positive development. Before Jorma's comments, I would like also to stress that the current situation offers us also great opportunities to maintain growth in building and technical trade. We are seeking all options to maintain organic growth to increase our market shares as we did also in the first half of this year as well as, of course, acquisitions are very interesting opportunities for us also in current circumstances, especially in Scandinavia.But Jorma, please continue.

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Jorma Rauhala
executive

What we are doing on those circumstances, I would say that we continue to implement our strategy and we have 2 main topics. First is customer. We have to be very active and very proactive with customer sales and sales management because someone will get -- also gain market share also in these circumstances. And we have managed to gain all of those big market share. And the second thing is expenses. And we have also managed to reduce our expenses second quarter quite nicely despite of this quite high inflation. Those 2 topics are in our agenda.

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Mikko Helander
executive

Exactly. And then second question was grocery related. And before Ari, I would like to stress that, once again, that we are extremely happy. Personally, I'm even impressed how well our grocery division has succeeded in current difficult market situation, as we mentioned already. This climate is probably a worst climate, but we could have in our business. And despite those challenges, we have maintained high profitability. My understanding is that still today, we are a more profitable grocery trade company in Europe. We have extremely well maintained this high profitability. We are doing extremely good job with consumers, but also our B2B business is growing and gaining market share. And again, we can see clearly that when climate will get better as the first signs, we can see already today, we are in excellent position also in grocery trade business to expand and improve further profitability.But Ari, please open more detail.

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Ari Akseli
executive

First, whole Finnish grocery market, we estimate that it will continue in both sides of the businesses. Also for the customer side, it will continue to grow and also in the foodservice side. In the foodservice side, there is strong megatrend but people eat more and more outside the home. And that's very good for us because we have very high market share in B2B side of the businesses. And at the same time, you also asked about the profitability of the K retailers, if I remember right. It was hurt because of the difficult market environment during the last year because generally, gross margins come down and all the costs go up. But now the situation is much better.We have been able to execute lots of savings, especially with the energy cost, also with the labor cost and in several areas. And at the same time, also the sales mix is getting better. Customers are not anymore so worried than before. They also buy more premium products now and for example, the berry season has been quite good currently. And we see a lot of positive signs in the market. And like Mikko mentioned earlier that when market is getting more stable and people are still looking some happiness to the life, they buy more premium, we can see better in sales mix. And also, we can see strong development in the visits in the stores. More and more customers are visiting, numbers are increasing. So it's getting better. And also, we are losing a little bit market share. Situation is much better than before.

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Mikko Helander
executive

And Jukka, add something.

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Jukka Erlund
executive

Just add to it. Regarding the question regarding Kespro's profitability. So, as you noticed the numbers, Kespro improved its top line close to 10%. So that also impacted the profitability, which improved during the second quarter.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

And I think there's no more questions on the conference call line. So, I will go to the questions that we have received through the chat function.First, Calle Loikkanen from Danske Bank is asking how much lower are the margins in Elektroskandia compared to the overall building and technical trade division? And when do you think the margins could be at the same level as the rest of the business?

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Mikko Helander
executive

I can start, much lower because when we acquired Elektroskandia, we knew, and it was obvious that Elektroskandia was quite badly underperforming in Norwegian market. But Jorma, you can continue, anyhow Elektroskandia will be fully integrated to Onninen Norway.

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Jorma Rauhala
executive

First, all in all, I think acquisition of Elektroskandia was a very, very good move because now we are a clear market leader when it comes to Norway electric market. And also, we are very strong in all segments; contractor, utility and industry. And as Mikko mentioned, Elektroskandia was performing much lower than Onninen, but now we have started a full integration process. We will integrate it all actions, what comes to IT, what comes to organization and sourcing everything. And next year, we will have only one company. We will have Onninen and we will gain that nice synergies from that acquisition.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Svante Krokfors, Nordea, asking food inflation is coming down, but what is the price picture within building and technical trade, building and home improvement and technical trade?

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Mikko Helander
executive

All in all, we can see already first signs that the inflation coming down. And of course, that is extremely positive news, especially even when this development will continue and that we need, all in all, in economy. Jorma, my understanding is that also in building and technical trade, we can see first signs that prices are coming down, but how you see this developing.

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Jorma Rauhala
executive

We can see that second quarter, the prices were kind of flat, maybe some 1% increase or something like that. And I think that will kind of continue that situation. In some categories, there are increases and some yes, some negativity, for example, timber, there was quite a big decrease in prices.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Svante Krokfors continues. Can you please elaborate on volume development in building and technical trade product categories, including green transition products?

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Jorma Rauhala
executive

All in all, as was mentioned, the price was kind of flat. So the volume is very similar, but as is our sales. But still, this green transition is doing better than average, our sales, for example, solar panels and heat pumps, there is still a nice increase on those product groups.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Very good. I am getting information to my microphone that there's a question on conference call line. So please, conference call line.

Operator

The next question comes from Miika Ihamaki from DNB Markets.

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Miika Ihamaki
analyst

This is Miika from DNB. Could you elaborate your car trade outlook? So you still have order book above average, but maybe a bit on the mix. So, kind of the profitability drivers there. Are we seeing kind of a lot of growth in your aftermarket activity? Is the charging contributing to your profits? How should we think about the sort of profit outlook for the division for the remainder of the year?

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Mikko Helander
executive

I can start and then definitely Sami will open more details. But all in all, our situation is good in car trade especially because today, we are in a strong position in all businesses; new car, second-hand car, services and all businesses are expanding and improving operational financial performance. Order backlog is unusual big also in new cars. But of course, order intakes are now low everywhere, not just in Finland, but everywhere in Europe in car trade. And as long as order intakes are low, order backlog is shrinking. But once again, I remind that we have very strong development in used car business as well as in services and that will help us also in case if new car order intakes will remain longer time lower level.But Sami, please open it. I believe that especially people are very eager to hear from you how you can see this new car business -- new car business outlook in mid- and longer-term.

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Sami Kiiski
executive

Yes, of course, new car business, like Mikko also said, according to industry, the market new orders are intake is soft. It's low. It's minus 50% according to Association of Automobile Finland, and that is clearly what we can see also in other countries in Europe. But we still have a good strong order book and that will last until end of the year, until the end of the Q3 at least. And -- but like Mikko said, there also -- we have strong business areas like used car business and there the demand is good level and we are outperforming the market clearly during the used car market. When it comes to service, I believe you asked also the service business. There, we have also made a lot of investments and improvements. And there, for example, the [indiscernible], we are investing and the network is national-wide and we see there also strong development and good profitability.

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Mikko Helander
executive

Yes, exactly.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Thank you. Any further questions Miika?

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Miika Ihamaki
analyst

Yes, is the K Charging and contributing to our profits, let's say, still this year? And sort of what's the outlook for that?

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Mikko Helander
executive

K Charging is already profit-making business. But of course, we should remember that K Charging is a relatively small business still today, despite the fact that business is now expanding and we are today one of the leading charging network operator in Finland. But all in all, services K Charge -- Charging, but also all other spare part services and repairs and all that kind of things are extremely important part of our card trade division and those businesses are also developing very well and generating also a nice profit for Kesko.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

No more questions from the conference call and I suppose. And then there's a similar question from Joonas Hayha from OP regarding car trade. Order intake has been weak for some time, but the backlog has provided support recently. How long is the order book? And when do you expect that to be cleared? And actually, you guys already kind of answered the question. You would like to elaborate something else?

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Mikko Helander
executive

We mentioned already that the backlog is unusual big and maintains high invoicing up to end of third quarter still inversing coming from backlog in the last quarter. But of course, the orders we need to maintain good profitability in 2024. But once again, I remind you that part of the profit coming from new cars, but extremely important profit generators services and used car business and those businesses performing also very well. But all in all, we can enjoy this high backlog almost full-year 2023.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Very good. Thank you all. I don't have any further questions. Do you have any other comments for upcoming summer weekend or any other thoughts and feelings?

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Mikko Helander
executive

The weather is nice in Helsinki, almost sunny day and economy, we hope and we believe slowly going to the right direction. But maybe most important to wish you pleasant summer day, and thank you very much for your active participation. Thank you.

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Hanna Jaakkola
executive

Thank you.