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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q1

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Fung Leng Chen
executive

At this juncture, I would like to introduce the team today. We have Richard the CEO of the Manager, Audrey, the Chief Financial Officer; and Colin, the Head of Investment and Asset Management. So let me invite Richard to bring us through the first quarter highlights of our business update. Richard?

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Richard Ng
executive

Yes. Thanks, Fung Leng. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. And first and foremost, a very happy new year. Hopefully, Rabbit year has started off well. Okay. Let's get on to the first part of our presentation, Fung Leng. Okay. Just give you a very quick overall highlights of what was achieved during the first Q4 of FY '23. Firstly, in terms of occupancy, we continue to see improvement. We have grown now up to a healthy level of 98.4%. And shopper traffic, retail sales have also grown. Tenant sales is three 13.4% year-on-year. And if you look at comparing with pre-COVID level, the year-to-date average is about 12% higher. Shopper traffic, it's about 38% year-on-year, even though it's not back to pre-COVID, but I think it's at a level whereby it is actually -- should be helping us with the sales and the productivity of customers is actually improving as well. For that part, Fung Leng will run through in more detail later on. Couple of things that have also happened in terms of looking at hedging strategies, especially financing is one area that I believe everybody is focusing on. We are now at about 73% of our total borrowings of being hedged. Next up is in terms of energy purchase. We shared this a couple of rounds before. What's happening is our hedges is only coming in towards the second half of FY 2023. So at the moment, we are continuously monitoring the market. It has been pretty positive as far as we are concerned because the rates, if you compare to probably June last year, it has come off quite a bit. So we're continuing to monitor. And as I've shared before, we have full flexibility in terms of how we intend to hedge our energy purchases. It could be short term, free float, et cetera. One important area to also highlight is Hougang Mall has also been awarded BCA Green Mark pattern. What that means is all 10 of our buildings, including Central Plaza now has been certified at least go plus and above and about 50% of them, in fact, are actually platinum-rated. There's a little bit about the market. I'm not going to go into the economy of the market as a whole, but more so in terms of what we are seeing in the retail sector. The sales of -- retail sales continue to improve. If you look at for the November numbers, it's up 8.7% year-on-year. And also certain elements or certain component, in fact, has more impressive growth of 24.7%. Notably also from the CBRE research report, we can see that from the rental perspective, there's a recovery from both the Orchard prime area as well as suburban prime for averment prime rents has gone up 1% quarter-on-quarter and 2.3% year-on-year. And CBRE expects the overall rent to continue recovering in 2023. Next up, I'll hand over to Audrey to take you through the financial position. Audrey, please.

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Loo Ming Tan
executive

Thanks, Richard. Okay. Our rent through of capital management. Aggregate leverage as at first quarter of FY '22 is about 33.9%, relatively similar to last quarter level. Average cost of debt is at -- for the quarter is at 3.5% higher with the higher interest rate environment. Our average debt maturity is about 1.8 years. 73% of our borrowings are hedged to interest rate. And 31% of total borrowings is actually relating to green loans. So in terms of facilities wise, we have about close to $600 million, undrawn RCF facilities and rerated by S&P BBB stable and also by Moody's BAA2 stable. So with this, I will hand over to Pauline to on operational performances.

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Pauline Lim
executive

Thank you, Audrey. Good morning, everyone, and [Foreign Language] to everyone. I'm very pleased to update you on our results as well as the developments to portfolio in this segment of the presentation. This is for the first quarter of our new financial year. And I think it actually shows a good start to the Rabbit year, right?

Now this slide shows the committed occupancy of our portfolio. On a quarter-on-quarter as well as year-on-year basis, it has actually been improving. It stands at 98.4% for the entire portfolio as at 31st December 2022. So it's a picture of robust as well as a resilient performance coming out from the pandemic, right. I wanted to highlight a few key takeaways from this slide. We see that 2 of the malls in our portfolio mainly Northpoint City, North Wing as well as Hougang Mall is actually achieving -- has achieved 100% occupancy. And on top of that, there are a few other malls, in particular, the larger most like Causeway Point, Waterway Point, Tampines 1. These have actually achieved occupancy that is near to 100%. So touching 100% above 99%, right? The other point to note is also for malls that were more impacted over the pandemic period due to where they are located or a function of the lease expiries is also demonstrating good traction in terms of recovery. And we see that Changi City Point has actually improved in terms of occupancy by about 4.1% points over the quarter. And also for Century Square as well, the occupancy has improved. There is advanced negotiation ongoing for the anchor space, the cinema space. That 8% is not reflected in this 89% occupancy. Next slide, please. I think we are quite familiar with this slide. I think there are a few key takeaways from the footfall trends as well as the sales trend. We see that after the reopening of the Singapore economy in May 2022, the footfall has actually recovered to about 80% compared to pre-COVID and it's maintaining at that level over the past few months. And we believe that this is a function of the fact that our malls are actually very well located near to the transportation hubs. So there is a certain proportion of the footfall going through that is transient footfall. People going to work or coming home from work, right? And with the hybrid work arrangement, some of that transient footfall has actually fallen away. However, if we look at sales, it shows a very, very positive trend. Across 2022, calendar year 2022, we see the sales performance, our total sales performance, actually exceeding pre-COVID by about 12%. And that is a very consistent trend for the past year or so. Yes. And we do attribute this to the fact that our malls are very integral part of the hard lenders, lifestyle and everyday living. Next slide, please, summary. Now this slide shows the WALE at about 1.8 to 1.9 years. And it's a healthy WALE, has been increasing or improving over the past quarter and over the past year is also reflective of the fact that our average niche tenure for the retail leases is about 3 years or so. And also the fact that we have actually leased out or we committed some of the bigger spaces over the past financial year and in the first quarter of this year. If I may draw your attention to the 2 bars sitting on top FY '23, you see that the drop in the bar from the gray bar, 28% to 20% reflects the leasing activity or the commitments in the first quarter of this new financial year. So that is a good -- that demonstrates a good traction in terms of renewals as new lease tick up. If we look beyond FY 2023, there is actually no concentration, no concentration in these expiry over the near term. Next slide, please. funding. All right. A key focus on our mix of our retail strategy is to continuously refresh the retail offering in order to excite our shoppers. This slide shows a few things. I think, firstly, the retail team in Singapore remains active, very vibrant across various trades, not just SMB, across different aspects of retail as well. We see new entrants coming to the market. Existing retailers also reinventing themselves, rebranding themselves. We also see brick-and-mortar complementing, right? So there are retailers that have tried on e-commerce are also coming out venturing out to brick-and-mortar. And an essential part of our strategy is to actually cultivate some of these new retail concepts. And if they are proven successful, we will then bring them to the rest of our portfolio, right? Next slide, please, Fung Leng. Now our malls are all mainly located in the heart of the Heartlands. So the focus on place-making and being integral and relevant to our community is an important aspect of our management strategy, our retail management strategy, right? And with the reopening, we are able to then bring back some of these nature events and programs to our malls to activate and attract the footfall back to the malls and remain relevant to the community. So our malls become almost like a third place for the Heartlanders and our shoppers.

Next slide, please. All right. So very, very happy to share the much-awaited news of the asset enhancement of Tampines 1. As we have shared previously, growth through value enhancement is very, very important or integral part of our portfolio management. And I'm very happy to update that we will be commencing a $38 million asset enhancement initiative on Tampines 1 in the second quarter of this year. Now the target is 8% ROI on an unlevered basis from the enhancement CapEx that we would be spending for this AI. And this is on the back of very rigorous and diligent retail as well as financial visibility. Now there are a few key areas of value enhancement. One is the higher rental productivity for our asset. We are looking at increasing the NLA by 8,000 square feet. And this is actually leveraging various bonus GFA schemes, including the CSF scheme as well as the recent participation in the distributed district cooling initiative that has actually given us some bonus GFA as well. So we will be deploying this additional GFA to the prime areas within the mall, namely a basement, Level 1 and Level 2. And that will then give us the rental -- higher rental productivity as well as higher rents from the additional NLA as well as the enhanced real estate through reconfiguration. Tampines 1 have not undergone any major refurbishments over the recent past years. So this is an opportunity for us to also refresh the retail experience for our shoppers. And Tampines 1 is enjoying -- as well is located actually enjoys a very, very strong catchment. It has a somewhat differentiated concept or retail positioning from its sister mall Century Square as well as the competitors within that -- the trade cost as position as more of that offering more of that trending and contemporary fashion as well as F&B to the catchment. So we'd like to take this opportunity to also refresh the offering and also deepen and strengthen its positioning as well. We want to upgrade some of the key shopper touch points, including the entrances, some of the common ways as well as toilets and car parks such that shoppers will actually enjoy a more refreshed shopping experience in addition to the new offering that we have curated -- the new retail offering that we have curated. And in terms of the leasing momentum as well, that has actually garnered a pretty good traction prior to -- even prior to commencement of the AEI, we have achieved -- committed as well as advanced leasing negotiation level of more than 70%. So more than 70% of the spaces that is impacted by the AEI have been precommitted or are in advanced negotiation, right? And some of the retailers that will be bring to the more post AIE are homegrown favorites like Love, Bonito, Tiong Bahru Bakery are new to the suburban space. Some of these brands are relatively new to the suburban space. So we're very excited. The AEI boat take place in phases. We're not closing the mall. The mall will continue to operate in phases from the second quarter of this year and complete in the third quarter of next year. But of course, a lot of the higher-yielding spaces, the commercial spaces will actually be front-loaded to be completed earlier, right. Yes.

So next slide, please. yes. So that is what I have to share with everyone. Thank you.

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Richard Ng
executive

Right. Thanks, Pauline. Let me just do a quick roundup of our presentation, and then we can move on to Q&A. So first and foremost, you could see from the set of business update that we have shared with you, we are riding on the momentum of a recovering retail market. Our occupancy continues to improve. Tenant sales improving, shopper traffic has gone up marginally, pretty much what we have been seeing for the last couple of months, if you compare to pre-Covid and Pauline has actually explained the rationale behind not getting 100% traffic volume back to pre-COVID level because of the proportion of people are still working from home, and this is likely to be the new norm, that's what we are seeing. So first Q operational performance also continued to remain strong with the healthy demand as what Pauline has also shared with us. So the other aspect is definitely despite whatever that we are seeing right now, retail sector remains an attractive asset class. And if you look at what CBRE research report has alluded to, rentals are recovering, and we are expecting this to continue with the momentum that we are seeing right now. The AEI at Tampines 1 is one that we have actually been talking about without going into details because we have shared with you guys that we are looking at AEI opportunities we are waiting for approvals. We are getting some of the plans done, et cetera. And we are very happy that finally, this has come to fruition, and we're going to start in the second quarter. However, in between the period of time where we are going through the works and getting all this ready, the team has been working very hard on the ground. And as what Pauline shared, about 70% of the areas that are up for AEI has already been either precommitted or in advanced negotiations. So that's actually a very, very encouraging number. Very good demand. And we are seeing pretty good brands that's coming through, and that will bring Tampines 1 to the next level. And as you are aware, for shopping malls, we always need to refresh, need to reinvigorate bringing new tenants to again give whatever that -- our community is looking for. So we are very excited. Very happy to see this is finally getting off the ground. And definitely, when it's really -- or along the way during the progress of the AEI, we'll continue to update all you guys. And similarly, as I've shared before, AEI comes in all ships and sizes. Some of them are smaller, some of them are bigger. And the team will continue to work hard the asset management together with the property manager. We're continuing to look hard to look for opportunity for us to continue to add value to the portfolio. And last but not least, just a couple of points to recap about where we are, who we are. And definitely, in terms of from STT perspective, you can see the competitive advantages that we have. Our assets are located in a good location, well connected. We have the scale today to benefit from economies of scale. We have the scale to also do certain things, have a larger network of retailers, et cetera. Fundamentally, we continue to focus very much on essentials. That's our bread and butter, even though we may bring in new brands, infuse new types of trades, but fundamentally, we are still very much on essentials. Omnichannel is something that we continue to pursue to work with our retailers, and that's something that we believe is going to grow and continue to grow because it benefits everybody. It benefits the retailers, it benefits the shoppers. And definitely, as landlord, it's actually benefiting us as well. And last but not least, in terms of sustainability is something that we continue to be part of our strategy as we embark on achieving our net 0 carbon by 2050, and that comes as the umbrella of the entire Frasers Group. With that, I will end the presentation for the first section and happy to take questions. Fung Leng, back to you.

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Fung Leng Chen
executive

Right. Thank you, Richard, Pauline and Audrey. So we are now ready to take questions in relation to the first quarter '23 business update. So the first questions that we have in the queue comes from Terence Khi of JPMorgan.

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M. Khi
analyst

Just 2 quick questions from me. I wanted to ask on expected interest costs for this FY, noted that it's gone up from 3% to 3.5% for the quarter. What is the outlook for the full year, especially with that 21% of debt expiring this year? And second question I wanted to ask on when should we expect Century Square banker needs to be backfilled? That's all.

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Richard Ng
executive

Right. I will start off and then maybe Audrey or Pauline can jump in later on. In terms of the expected interest cost, we have stated in the presentation that it's -- this quarter is at 3.5% compared to 3% in the last quarter. And you also rightly pointed out that we have some refinancing coming up longer year as well. So this is where we are continuing stream monitoring the market. The rate is still a little bit volatile. We are seeing some signs that it's actually coming off. But then again, that is something that we are watching. We are monitoring. So we're continuing to do this until it's time for us to look at our strategy, whether, again, what kind of proportion are we looking going to lock in, going to hedge? What kind of tenure are we looking at whether are we going to consider having secured unsecured? So all those flexibilities that we have today will vary the rate. So Terence, I can't really crystal ball and tell you what is going to be like. But I think it's fair to say that likelihood is going to be on the high end of the 3% potentially. If the rates continue to come down, we are keeping our fingers crossed that can then bring it back to closer to where we are today. But from where we are seeing right now being a little bit conservative, we feel that probably it's on a high 3% for the year. So that's for the interest rate. For Century Square, we are currently in talks negotiating with an operator to take over the cinema space. So a lot of progress has been made. So we're just fine-tuning certain aspect of the negotiation. And if that's done and when that's done, that would take us by increasing the occupancy by another about 8 percentage point to about 96-plus percent, right? So once that's done, I think Century is going to in terms of occupancy will be pretty much back to about 96%, 97%.

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Pauline Lim
executive

So Richard, I may add on -- so Terence, this is an anchor space, right? The cinema space in an anchor space. We are very careful or very careful and considered in terms of leasing up the space. We look for strong operators that will actually work with us to activate the mall and also to draw strong [indiscernible] quarter loan. So I appreciate your patience. I think there is good traction. We hope to actually have the deal committed within the second quarter of this year.

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Fung Leng Chen
executive

All right. Thank you, Pauline, and Richard. I'll move on to the next question from Geraldine, DBS.

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Geraldine Wong
analyst

Happy Lunar year. So I think I just have one question. So for companies on post the 8,000 square feet A, are we moved the needle for passing rent?

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Richard Ng
executive

Yes, Pauline, you go ahead.

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Pauline Lim
executive

Yes. So Jordan, I think I mentioned in my presentation earlier that the focus is on improving the rents as well as the rental productivity because what we are also doing is to update the space configuration as well as the physical real estate to actually make the mall more relevant for the retailers, some of these fashion retailers and so forth. So definitely more rents and also higher rent for us. Did I answer your question?

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Geraldine Wong
analyst

Okay. [indiscernible] transactor can be higher rents there.

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Fung Leng Chen
executive

Right. Thank you. Moving on to the next question from Joel, DBS.

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Joel Gindill
analyst

I just had 2 questions. Firstly, happy New Year. Yes. The first question is regarding the AEI at Tampines 1. I'm just curious on like how would it impact the current occupant? And is there like some slight impact on rentals? And then my second question is I noted that gearing rose slightly to 33.9%. I don't think you closed on the additional 10% on Waterway Point. So was curious what caused this increase?

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Richard Ng
executive

Okay. Let me take the questions on AEI first. For AEI, of course, what is going to happen in certain parts of the mall will be impacted at different junctures. So as Pauline mentioned, we're going to start in the second quarter and complete in 2024. And this is going to be done in phases. So we are not closing the mall. The mall will continue to operate. So we would do it in phases section by section, even, let's say, for example, you take Basement 1. It's not the case of doing the entire basement at one point in time. we will work on it portion by portion. So that will allow the mall to continue to operate and also our retailers to continue to operate. So definitely, there will be some impact in terms of occupancy along this way. And also, I think we have shared before and that's something that we have done before that during AEI, if there's any disruption to our income, we will be looking at asset management fee as one means to actually patch the impact to the overall performance of the mall during this AEI period.

And this is something that we will be evaluating as well for Tampines 1 AEI. In terms of the slight increase in gearing that is a result of the funds that we require for payment of our DPU. So when we do that, there's a little bit of a bump up in terms of gearing percentage.

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Loo Ming Tan
executive

Just to add on what Richard, it's also working capital requirements. So as we do so, it's right because that in the first quarter, you do see increase in terms of the debt versus the full year.

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Fung Leng Chen
executive

Moving on to Terence Lee from UBS. In the interest of time, we will move on to the next session after the current Q.

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Terence Lee
analyst

Got it. Do you mind sharing the reversions and occupancy costs for the last quarter and also your outlook ahead?

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Richard Ng
executive

Terence, okay. Unfortunately, for business update, we don't go into specific. What I can say is that the reversion continues to be in a positive position. But it's only first quarter. So not a lot of leases are up. So 2 things, right? Not a lot of leases up for renewal, only a proportion of it. It's still in positive. We still see the positive trend continuing. In terms of occupancy cost, again, it's only a quarter. So seasonality plays a part. Sales definitely is higher during this period. So occupancy cost for the first quarter, typically, it's actually lower than the annual average.

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Terence Lee
analyst

Got it. And also, do you mind sharing the cash ROI for the excluding the valuation gains?

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Richard Ng
executive

This is excluding the valuation team. This is just strictly on the incremental income that we are generating. If you include the valuation gain, you will be higher than that.

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Pauline Lim
executive

Yes. And this is on an unlevered basis. Also just to add on in terms of the revaluation gains, it will be in the positive territory. The net revaluation be.

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Fung Leng Chen
executive

Moving on to the last question in the queue from Vijay, RHB.

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Vijay Natarajan
analyst

Happy New Year. Just a few quick questions. Can you give us some color in terms of what is the variable trends as a percentage of overall in some of the new leases you have signed at this point of time? And also, can you name some sectors where you are seeing strong tenant demand in some of your malls? Has there been any changes in post-COVID? And one last question is that has there been any impact from GST hike so far? I know it's still too early, but is there anything which you see in the malls so far?

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Richard Ng
executive

Okay. Vijay, let me try to get this through as quick I can. In terms of variable rent, typically, our variable rent is about 4% to 5% of revenue. That continues. We're still seeing that same trend moving forward. The sector that has been doing well, a couple of sectors, notably beauty, health, fashion. So those are some of the sectors that has been doing well, partly also maybe perhaps more people are also going back to work. It's a combination of also seasonality due to festive period. And this year because Christmas and Chinese New Year was very close, right? So you can expect some pent-up spending as well during this period. So those are some of the sector. F&B, of course, continue to be one of our key contributor. So those are some of the sectors that has been doing well. Impact to GST, not significant. I don't believe that for our malls will be significant because again, it's -- firstly, it's only 1 percentage point different. And secondly, because we have basically essential product that we are having most of our space actually for essential products, so against bread and butter. This is something that we feel that consumers will continue to come to the mall to purchase, right? So we don't see a significant impact on GST.

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Fung Leng Chen
executive

All right. Thank you very much for all your questions for the first quarter update.

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