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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q2

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Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to AcuityAds' Second Quarter 2021 Financial Results Conference Call for 3 and 6 month period ended June 30, 2021.Before we begin the official remarks, I will read the cautionary note regarding forward-looking information. Certain information to be discussed during this call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable security laws, including among others, statements concerning the company's 2021 objectives, the company's strategy to achieve those objectives, as well as statements with respect to management's beliefs, plans, estimates and intentions and similar statements concerning anticipated future events, results, circumstances, performance or expectations that are not historical facts.Such forward-looking statements reflect management's current beliefs and are based on information currently available to management and is subject to a number of significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. Please refer to the cautionary statements and the risk factors identified in our filings with SEDAR for a more detailed explanation of the inherent risks and uncertainties that could affect such forward-looking statements. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.I would now like to turn the conference call over to Tal Hayek, the Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer of AcuityAds to update you on the operations of the business.

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Tal Hayek
Co

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our Q2 investor presentation. My name is Tal Hayek and I'm the Co-Founder and CEO of AcuityAds. This is the first presentation since we added a note on NASDAQ recently. So I would like to send a warm welcome to all our new shareholders from all over the world.Over the past few quarters, we talked a lot about Illumin and we talked about a -- lot about how Illumin going to work. Well, Q2 was all about execution. Our team did a tremendous job in getting more and more brands to adopt the Illumin and to benefit from being able to control the consumer journey and to send the right message at the right time to their consumers depending where they are on that journey. I'd like to say a special thank you for the Acuity family for delivering such an amazing Q2. A quarter of overall growth of 55%, a quarter of 75% constant currency growth, and a quarter of 60% sequential growth in Illumin. And let's not forget, a quarter of 154% growth in EBITDA, companies, great companies like New York Life, Sparkling Ice, Waterberg and Dell and many others has already begun taking advantage of Illumin and the consumer journey approach. And not only that they're getting a better success in their campaign, they're also learning a lot, because the kind of insight that they're seeing from it is absolutely second to none.We're so excited about Q2 results. Revenue was up by 55% year-over-year, which is tremendous growth rate itself. But on a constant currency basis, we were up 75%. Now constant currency basis are really the right indicators from a growth perspective. Why? Because most of our revenue is derived in U.S. dollars and the strong Canadian dollar understates our real true growth rate, so we were able to deliver $30.3 million in Q2. LTM adjusted EBITDA, let's talk about that for a second because this is something that we have been focused on giving a lot as a management team in the last few quarters. We made a decision that it's time to bring more profit from the organization and as you can see we were able to execute over the last 8 quarters, consistently, moving it up and to the right and delivering more LTM EBITDA. We have now reported $21.8 million LTM EBITDA for the quarter. CTV grew by 400% year-over-year basis. Tremendous excitement about the future of CTV, a great driver for the industry in general and for duty and we're really, really excited to see to that everything we talked about in the past regarding CTV is becoming reality and advertisers are moving more and more from traditional TV to Connected TV.Let's talk about Illumin, which is my favorite subject. From a revenue perspective, we saw an over 60% growth from Q1 to Q2. That is tremendous growth and we delivered $5.2 million in revenue. Clients, at the end of Q2, we saw 40 and 17 of them are Tier 1. And just to compare it, at the end of Q1 we had 17 and 9 of them were Tier 1. So we grew the client by 135%. Again, tremendous growth as it shows that our team is getting more and more of the brands adopted into Illumin. And the majority of revenue in Illumin came from brand-new businesses --. So we're very excited to see more and more logos coming, brand new logos coming into Acuity. And look, they're coming in because of Illumin and we'll have it. I think most importantly when you look at in the future and you look at what we predict to Illumin in the future, I can tell you, we're very excited about it. Everybody in the company, from the sales team, from the execution team to the tech team, marketing team, everyone is excited about Illumin. It gave really an amazing new life to the spirit of Acuity. Because we have something unique and differentiated and that really puts us aside and lets us excel in this world of programmatic advertising.So, what we're seeing is amazing amount of RFPs, lots of demos, lots of them are requests, lots of great conversations with major brands out there. And I'm happy to say that the pipeline is an all-time high for the second part of the year. So, we do believe the best is yet to come when it comes to Illumin. And now we have a few quarters under us, actually 3 quarters with Illumin, happy to show this graph. So in Q4, when we launched Illumin we did $1.5 million, in Q1 $3.2 million, and in Q2, $45.2 million. It's only 3 quarters in and we're very excited about where this is going to take us. A lot of the investors are always asking us, well, what makes you think that somebody else is not going to copy you? Well, I can tell you that I do feel that eventually somebody will copy the process because it just makes sense to do. But we have such a tremendous advantage over the marketplace that it's going to be very, very hard for them to catch up, and I do believe we have a lot of time ahead of us before we see anybody catch up. And don't forget that we are advancing all the time.In our latest release of Illumin, we've created a better journey, a better journey insight, the new insight, and access to more inventory. So this is just as been in the latest release and we have new releases coming in on a regular basis. We're also running some base on a regular basis, and every time we run a companion, we learn from it. When we learn from it, product makes changes, it improves the product as well and this is to say also the types of integrations that we're doing out there is creating a better product as well. And I think above all, is the acuity algorithm that we developed in our over the 11 -- the past 11 years is what makes all the decisions in the background of Illumin and that cannot be duplicated.What we're excited to share with you some data from actually what's happening when ironic campaign on Illumin. As many of you know, Purple has been a great partner for many years. They're all about driving value and they're all about ROI and they were nice enough to do a test for this. And what did we do? We took a campaign and we ran part of it as a company-connected journey and the other part is a conversion only, which conversion only what we call the bottom of the funnel, it's more like what other DSPs do like the -- all DSP of Acuity used to do. Next this journey is the campaign into awareness stage, engagement stage and conversion stage and you send business messages along the way which is what Illumin is all about. I'm very happy to report that after running both campaigns, we were able to deliver much better value on the fully connected journey. And Josh Park, the Director of Performance Marketing reportable was nice enough to share in his testimonial here. So as you can see, he's really excited about the results you see.I will now ask Jonathan Pollack, our CFO, to share some financial updates.

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Jonathan Pollack
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Tal. Taking back to where we were this time last year, right at the heart of the COVID-19 Pandemic, and seeing where we are today is truly astonishing to me. I'm so proud of what the Acuity team has accomplished over this relatively short time period. Our year-over-year growth reflects not only the incredible bounce-back of our organization from the difficult challenges of last year, it also shows the resilience of the advertising industry as a whole, and we are thrilled to be one of the leaders in this mode.In addition to our results, we are also very pleased that we successfully listed on the NASDAQ exchange after raising $57.5 million, receiving incredible support from both our existing investors as well as an entirely new base of U.S. investors. Complementing this, we are continuing to see rapid adoption of our loan platform, which has become a strong catalyst for our future growth with revenue and pipeline growth well beyond our internal expectations. This growth is being driven by substantial inbound inquiries for the platform, some of which are from the largest advertising agencies and brands globally. We are ecstatic about the market opportunity that we are addressing with this innovative solution and believe this current momentum is truly just the beginning of this platform's full potential.With that in mind, I'd like to discuss the financial results from our second quarter 2021. Total revenue in the second quarter increased 55% year-over-year, $30.3 million compared to $19.6 million last year. With approximately 75% of our revenue derived in the U.S., a strong Canadian dollar understates our true growth. On a constant currency basis, revenue increased close to 75% compared to last year. In addition, revenue from Illumin this quarter totaled $5.2 million, an increase of 60%-plus sequentially compared to $3.2 million in Q1 2021. Gross profit or net revenue was $15.8 million in Q2 2021, a 56.4% increase compared to $10.1 million in Q2 2020. Our gross profit margin in Q2 2021 was 52.2% compared to 51.7% in Q2 of last year.Total operating expenses for the second quarter totaled -- million compared to $10.6 million last year, an increase of 25.5%. Q2 2020 expenses were obviously lower due to COVID-related reduction realized last year, including the shutdown in all travel entertainment expenses as well as the government warship were received during the 2020 period that was nonrecurring this year. Operating expenses as a percent of revenue was 93.7% for the second quarter, down from 54.5% in the same period last year. This improved operating leverage led to an adjusted EBITDA increase of 154% in Q2 2021 to $5.4 million, up from $2.1 million in Q2 2020. And lastly, net income for the same period was $3.4 million, up from a net loss of $1.6 million last year.Turning to our first-half results on the next slide. Total revenue for the 6 months of 2021 was $57.7 million, a 32% increase compared to $43.8 million in 2020. Revenue from Illumin for the first half of 2021 totaled $8.4 million. In addition, gross profit or net revenue was $30.2 million in the first half of 2021, an increase of 35.4% compared to $22.3 million for the same period last year. Gross margin for the first half of 2021 was 52.3% compared to 50.9% for the same period last year. Total operating expenses for the 6 months of 2021 totaled $25.4 million, up from $23.4 million during the same period in 2020, an increase of 8.7%. Adjusted EBITDA in the first half of 2021 was $10 million, up 153% from $3.9 million during the comparable period in 2020. Net income in the first 6 months of 2021 totaled $4.7 million compared to a net loss of $1.4 million for the same period last year.Turning to our balance sheet. Our working capital position continues to grow due to cash generated from the business as well as our recent financing completed simultaneously with our NASDAQ listing. As of June 30, our working capital position totaled $100.1 million, putting us in a very strong financial position. And as you'll see on the next slide, as of June 30, 2021, our cash balance stood at $93.4 million. In addition, on an LTM basis, in line with our growth strategy, we continue to generate strong adjusted EBITDA. As you can see here, our LTM adjusted EBITDA continues to grow, reflecting the strong operational leverage we continue to generate in each quarter. I'm incredibly pleased to announce that as of June 30, 2021, our LTM adjusted EBITDA stood at $21.8 million. An increase of close to 90% over the same period last year.Lastly, given our recent capital raise, we wanted to provide an update on primary and fully diluted shares of. At June 30, 2021, Acuity adds at 60.4 million primary shares outstanding and 63.6 million fully diluted shares outstanding. In addition, insiders continue to own a substantial stake in the company.That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the presentation back over to Tal before Q&A.

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Tal Hayek
Co

Thank you, Jonathan. We are so excited about Q2 results. The aggressive revenue growth, the Illumin growth and the constant increase in profitability just shows the leverage of the model that as we're increasing more and more revenue, and most of our expenses are fixed, we're able to bring in more profitability into the Illumin. Even more excited about the future, and you get it right, Illumina. Illumina is what I'm mostly excited about and allowed to see how Illumin is getting adopted out there. It's getting adopted by more and more brands that are really aligned with the way that they plan. Marketers plan a consumer journey. They always did. They just didn't have the tools to execute on it when it comes to programmatic and Illumin gives them that tool. And not only that it gives them that tool, it gives them the ability to see the types of insights they could never see before and that is extremely valuable for them.So I'm happy to report that the Illumin pipeline for the second part of the year is extremely strong and we're very excited about how it looks. And I would like to thank again the Acuity family for delivering such an amazing quarter. And before we said that we're very excited about the asset, now that we're on the NASDAQ, we are very excited to go out and tell the story to more and more new shareholders in the rest of the year. And I would like to say a warm welcome and thank you to all the new shareholders, from institutional shareholders to retail shareholders. I'd like to welcome you to the journey and the partnership of Acuity we could never do any of the things we do without our investors and our partners. So thank you again.Jonathan and I would like to welcome everyone to our Q&A section.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Laura Martin at Needham Co.

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Laura Anne Martin
Senior Research Analyst

So I got a couple. Let's start with CTV, very strong growth numbers on the CTV side of the business. Can you talk about -- I think we were estimating last year was about 5% of your business. As you think through the rest of 2021, how big do you think CTV could get? And what are its profit characteristics compared to the other channels of your ad revenue?

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Tal Hayek
Co

Yes. So let's start with the profit. I would say it's pretty aligned, the margins that we make on CTV. When we look at campaigns and it comes to Illumin, CTV is just a part of it, and it's an integral part of this. So when advertisers are running campaigns because we have Illumin, they can run it together with their display and whether other video campaigns or mobile or anything that's programmatic and they can actually see the -- how it affects the bottom of the final campaign as well. So, therefore, it's more or less part of the same profitability side of things. I can honestly say that the growth rates are amazing and we can see that going through the rest of the year and years to come, but I don't really know the specifical percentage of revenue on CTV and I really don't want to get.

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Laura Anne Martin
Senior Research Analyst

My second question and my last question is on Illumin. So we have about -- last year, around a number, 77% of your business was managed service and then Illumina is really driving our self-service part business. We as maybe that your managed service has over 50% gross margins, but your self-service, meaning Illumin, is -- has about 30% gross margins. And Illumin is growing a lot faster than the overall business. So can you talk about these margin profiles you're reporting today are excellent? Do we end up with downward pressure on our margin profile as Illumin becomes a larger and larger part of the business do you think?

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Tal Hayek
Co

Yes. I think in the long run, it's -- that's what we can expect. We can expect as the souths of Illumin numbers grow, the overall margin will gradually go down. But the numbers, the revenue numbers are going to go up substantially. Therefore, the net revenue will go up. And naturally, when running to observe, you have less expenses in the back end and it should be more profitable as well.

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Laura Anne Martin
Senior Research Analyst

And the EBITDA line will be more profitable?

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Tal Hayek
Co

Yes.

Operator

Our next question comes from Darren at ROTH.

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Darren Aftahi
MD & Senior Research Analyst

So just on the 17 kind of as we referred to Tier 1 clients, can you talk about like revenue concentration among Illumin there? And then my second one is the clients that have been on since the fourth quarter, how have -- how has the spend trended, if any? And how it kind of relates to customers that are coming on today? Said another way, like our new clients that are coming on that are Tier 1 spending more with you than when they came on in the fourth quarter.

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Tal Hayek
Co

So yes, Dan, I would say the -- I mean, Jonathan talked about concentration. I don't believe we have much. But I would say that what we're looking. As you know, in Q4 and this was that we will see the becoming in this year. So we were very surprised at what we said there was really 2 types of clients. The clients that are using Illumin already and spending a few hundred thousands on it per quarter or so. And they're gradually increasing their numbers, and they're happy with they're getting results. And the bigger clients that are spending also amounts, but it's more testing for them. But these types of clients are the one that takes a long time that for a long time. So generally speaking, the retention to make it extremely high. I think it's almost 100%. And the spend trend is looking very, very good, and we still expect bigger deals to close later on. Obviously, we'll be -- we will communicate what that happens.

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Jonathan Pollack
Chief Financial Officer

And Darren, with respect to the customer concentration of the $5.3 million in the quarter, the largest customer represented about 600,000 of that. The next customer is about 350, 250, 200. So there are many, many customers, but the largest being about 13%, 14%, nothing greater than that.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jacob at Lake Street.

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Jacob Michael Stephan
Research Analyst

Just going back to Illumin, how has the Illumin spend been trending among your current installed base between Q4, Q1, and Q2 now?

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Tal Hayek
Co

So the current install base of Illumin or in general?

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Jacob Michael Stephan
Research Analyst

So your current customers?

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Tal Hayek
Co

Okay. So from current customers, most of the revenue that's coming into Illumin is from brand new customers. So it's not taking customers from our existing business moving them over to Illumina. And from the Illumin customers, it's been trending very well. As I said, is port, mostly. We have 2 groups, one that are spending very nicely and we're seeing increasing spend over time. And then the other ones are really taking a very close look at it. Really excited about it. And would like to become a much bigger partnership in the future.

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Jacob Michael Stephan
Research Analyst

Just switching over to kind of your onboarding process. How are you guys able to ensure that customers coming online with this brand-new platform are successful?

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Tal Hayek
Co

That is actually a very, very good question. And that is also one of the reasons we don't want to go too fast on it because when you launch a brand-new platform that's never been tried before, you always want to make sure that this is perfect before you hit the gas better a lot. So we have -- in our sales process, we have sales engineers that are very close to the customers and to the sales process and very close to the time when you need to launch a campaign. And we also watch over what the customers are doing on a regular basis, making sure they're doing the right thing. Remember, Illumin is very intuitive to begin with, but the success of the initial customer is so important to us that we have to -- I won't say, we want a baby system to make sure that it's successful. So we do that and we're finding great results. And most of the time there's no issues. Sometimes there are issues and that's the beauty of it because we're very, very close to the feedback back to the product and product comes in and makes changes, and technology gets involved and makes changes. We are many iteration of Illumin already into it and it's all because we're becoming more and more experts on it. A lot of the assumptions we made in the beginning to this platform were not necessarily optimal. And so then it was all about getting that feedback, making changes, and it's all about how to be more intuitive, so it's easier to use, how to make fast or even to set up campaigns. Remember, on other DSPs, it takes hours to set up a campaign, on Illumin, it will take a minute to somebody without any experience. But we want to make that even better. So -- and performance, I mean Acuity has always been about performance. It's always been about driving our ROI to our customers. And Illumin drive even more ROI as a completely connected consumer campaign.

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Jacob Michael Stephan
Research Analyst

Now with 94 -- $93.4 million on the balance sheet, what kind of M&A are you guys targeting? Is it going to expand your base business? Or are you going more towards expanding Illumin even faster?

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Tal Hayek
Co

Yes. So we're not very happy about the 0.5% that we're getting from the bank on as I can tell you that much. So obviously, we're looking at M&A. We've been looking at a lot of companies lately. For me, this -- Illumina is definitely our focus for the future and for the presence and that's where our focus is. And we have many elements, new elements, that are on the plan in the pipeline for -- on the product road map for Illumina, and it could be things that are not programmatic. So things like search and social and out-of-home signs and influence marketing and there's a whole bunch of other ones that we want to integrate into it. Now we're specifically not experts in it. So we would love to acquire companies that are experts in it. We can integrate a ready product, run into Illumin, and bringing the talent that can help us. And obviously, if it comes with revenue and we can find some synergies and make it the whole thing very profitable. That, for me, is the ideal company that we're looking for.

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Jacob Michael Stephan
Research Analyst

Just going to the verticals, travel, hospitality, and entertainment. Have you seen a recovery in those? Or are they kind of still a little softer than you'd like?

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Tal Hayek
Co

They're softer than we would like for sure, but we're starting to see the signs of recovery. Obviously, with all this -- the pandemic is over. I know it's not over kind of situation. It's really, really frustrating because we want to see all those coming back. But even the ones that are not fully back from a business perspective, they're starting to communicate with the consumers because they have to and we're seeing some adults slowing there as well. So I think it's pretty encouraging fine. And eventually, it has to come back.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is going to come from Daniel Rosenberg at Paradigm.

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Daniel Rosenberg
Analyst

I had a quick question on the cost structure. So you guys have navigated COVID, really focused on keeping costs contained and are benefiting. Just wondering how you think about the opportunity ahead, whether it's worth kind of pausing the increases in profitability and really focusing on the growth opportunity? Or do you still prioritize EBITDA expansion as you see the near-term business?

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Tal Hayek
Co

No. Well, I'd say, obviously, we're prioritizing the growth of Illumin. That's definitely our focus. And we can do it in a number of different ways. I mean, there's M&A, and there's an investment in product and sales and marketing. And we're doing our strategic planning, and I think it's going to be a combination of all those things. We're going to stay profitable. There's no doubt about that, but maybe we will give up some of the profit in order to move faster. It's all in the planning right now over the next few weeks. And once we have a better idea of how to proceed, we'll be able to communicate it. But for me, it's an investment on both sides.

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Daniel Rosenberg
Analyst

And then in terms of the teaching initiatives that you put out there for Illumin, I know you invested in creating some programs. So I was wondering if you could just share any do you see Illumin so starting to become more self-sufficient? Are you still -- or are they really enjoying having you by their side in designing campaigns on the Illumin platform?

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Tal Hayek
Co

It's a mix of both. I mean, obviously, the education program that we're running is very good and it's really creating customers for the future. It's more the juniors that are taking it, I would say, and the van and creating -- and it's not only juniors, but obviously, I think it's creating our customers of the future. And it's also educating the market about advertising, automation, the connect consumer-driven and all that. So we're happy with that. We're happy with the leads we're getting from us and the amount of customers and sign-ups that we're getting from it and the conversations we're having. And on the other side, it's also, like I said before, we don't really want to go too fast with the Illumin because we're learning from it all the time. So it's definitely a mix. But over the next few quarters, there's going to be way, way more self-serve than managed, and we will definitely encourage customers to do it more on the tougher side.

Operator

Our next question comes from Kevin Krishnaratne at Desjardins.

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Kevin Krishnaratne
Research Analyst

A really good results, guys. I have a question for you following up on previous questions on the gross margin, the net revenue, whatever you want to call it. Tal, you mentioned over time, there'll be a skewing back down. It will move closer and closer below the 50% mark, I guess, as you get more of the self-serve business in. But even if you think about yourself serve take rate, it's sort of -- I think you've indicated 30%, 35%, that is quite high relative to what you see in the industry. And I know that we've talked in the past on the pricing power that you have there, just given the strong ROI that you deliver. As you're going to market with Illumina and you're getting in front of larger clients, more global clients that might be having more spend, they might be used to other DSPs that have lower take rates. What -- how do you think about that longer-term? In the past, you have sort of given up a little bit of margins to win bigger deals. Just wondering longer term, how do you think about take rate?

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Tal Hayek
Co

So I think we still have the luxury of getting more take rates because we have something -- 2 things are very unique. #1 is the Illumin. Again, this is a platform that nobody else out there has it's very unique and it's very desirable. At the end of the day, this is what marketers dream of. This isn't what they plan. They always plan consumer journey and they didn't have a way of activating it up to now. And now they have that system, so we do have the luxury of that. Couple that with an algorithm that delivers a better ROI, and ultimately, what customers care about is their ROI. And if they spend a little bit more on margin to us, but make more ROI when they spend less with other players, then that's a better deal for them. So I do believe we will have the luxury of taking our take rate to be higher. Look, when you think about deals that are very big in the tens of millions of dollars a year revenue, we will probably be more flexible, but the net revenue that we're going to have in the system is going to be much higher, and therefore, our profits will show that as well. So I think at the end of the day, it's going to be a win-win.

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Kevin Krishnaratne
Research Analyst

As others have mentioned on the call, travel, and entertainment is still a little light, but you did see signs of recovery. I think the results you put in Q2 were quite strong in light of that, even though you've got a pause on the business there. Can you remind us historically what that business represents in a Q2 and Q3 in terms of the percentage of revenue?

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Jonathan Pollack
Chief Financial Officer

Historically, travel, entertainment, and things related to travel entertainment were about 20%, 25%. As you mentioned, we've been able to get that revenue back from other verticals. Tal mentioned auto has been something we've invested in over the last 12 months. That has performed extraordinarily well. Our team focused on auto is really hitting out of the park. But we are seeing some small increases in certain travel and entertainment, and we do see that coming back. As Tal mentioned, obviously, airlines are up and running again and spending marketing dollars, and we hope that that will continue. But you'll also see hotels, cruise ships and other ways of travel spending money. And we're not expecting that to be a big part in our internal budget, but if it does, it will definitely allow us to outperform.

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Kevin Krishnaratne
Research Analyst

Last one for me is just on profits. Again, a very impressive EBITDA profile. You mentioned that the focus is on Illumin. Can you talk about any sort of spending plans internationally when you think about the ad market and even CTV, there's a lot of opportunity in international markets? You've got presence in Europe through a prior acquisition. Can you talk about maybe the resources that you've got internationally? And any thoughts on using some of that cash on the balance sheet to increase your presence in international markets. Thinking of that in the context of, again, with Illumin, you presumably you're carving larger rands or global in nature that might want to run global campaigns.

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Tal Hayek
Co

So from a technical perspective, we are international the exceptional data. We cannot run any campaign there just because it's a matter of having data centers, which, by the way, it's not that difficult to do if we decide to do it. For me, that area is more tough from a sales and marketing perspective. But the rest of the world technically were there and we can run. So international pension is something that's part of the -- it's on the table from the strategic plan point of view, and we will be slowing it I am birthing a fan of it. And I do believe the rest of Europe is something we should pay attention to and some other areas of the world that are up and coming as well. So -- and we can do that from an M&A perspective or from a hiring perspective as well. And all that is part of the strategic planning for the future.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Jonathan, Tal it looks like we have no more questions at this point. I'll hand it off to you two to close up the call here.

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Tal Hayek
Co

Well, thank you, everyone, for joining our call. As I said before, we truly value all the investors that are joined the journey all the time and like from a while ago and but recently as well. And you all matter and we couldn't have done it without you. I would like to share one quick story that I heard from the sales team when it comes to Illumin. And there was -- there was a sales meeting with a major agency and a major executive, but originally did not even feel that you want to take that meeting. In the middle of that meeting, he was so excited about it, and he shared with everyone that everyone from the beginning of times of programmatic marketing and been talking about the consumer learning. And we are the only one that actually provided the tools and activation, meaning that you can plan your campaign and activate it from our system. And that is something that he claims is huge, which obviously we think so as well. So that is the we're getting from the street from very, very large advertisers, and that's truly excited to be part of Acuity today as we're getting more and more people to adopt. So thank you, everyone, on our call today. And -- on the next quarterly call.

Operator

Thank you, everybody. Cheril, you may go ahead and end the call.