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Earnings Call Analysis

Q4-2023 Analysis
First Quantum Minerals Ltd

Company tackles production drop and high costs

The company faced a 28% quarter-over-quarter decline in copper production with a 40% drop in sales volume due to Cobre Panama disruptions. As a result, revenue fell by 40% this quarter to $1.2 billion, with net losses reaching $1.447 billion, partly due to a significant asset impairment. The cost of copper increased by $0.40 to $1.82 per pound, affected by low production and other factors like rising fuel costs. Net debt rose to $6.4 billion though liquidity was buffered by a $500 million copper prepayment deal. The company is now focusing on balance sheet strength and project completion, irrespective of Panama's dispute situation. Plus, the forthcoming election in Panama introduces uncertainties that may impact the company's contributions to the economy and infrastructure.

Navigating Headwinds with a Clear Strategy

The company, amid one of its most challenging periods, reported a significant 40% decline in quarterly revenue, ending at $1.2 billion, and a substantial net loss of $1.447 billion. This was in part due to pressures in the nickel market from increased supply in Indonesia, which has led to lower nickel prices and payabilities, resulting in a full impairment of the Ravensthorpe operation.

Rising Costs Amidst Operational Challenges

The business faced a 28% rise in Copper C1 costs, which reached $1.82 per pound due to reduced production and higher fuel prices. Notably, the Zambian operations expect some seasonal impact, which is included in the annual guidance, reflecting a prudent approach in financial planning.

Strengthening Financials for Future Growth

Net debt saw an increase of $783 million over the quarter, bringing the total to $6.4 billion. An essential component was the one-time $567 million tax payment to the Panama government, which was the country's largest tax payment to date and aimed at preserving strong arbitration rights under Law 406. The company has taken proactive steps to manage the balance sheet and improve liquidity, such as the suspension of the dividend, reduction in capital and operating costs, and optimizations in working capital. Additionally, a $500 million copper prepayment agreement with Jiangxi Copper helps boost liquidity for coping with current financial challenges.

Investing in Long-Term Value

Despite current hurdles, strategic investments like the $1.25 billion Kansanshi S3 expansion project are on budget and schedule for ramp-up in the second half of 2025. This project underscores the company's commitment to generating strong future cash flows and benefits from the stable investment environment in Zambia.

Potential Upsides and Risks to Monitor

Management expressed confidence in the company's resilience and the proactive approach being taken, even as the firm faces the potential risk of exceeding the net debt-to-EBITDA covenant ratio within the next year, which currently stands as a material uncertainty. Looking ahead, there are positive signs in discussions around preserving safe management plans with the Panama administration, which will be significant considering the upcoming elections and their impact on the regulatory and operational landscape.

Strategizing Amidst Uncertainty

With the power plant in Panama remaining idle, restarting it could offer relief against high power prices due to the low water levels in hydro dams. The company is hopeful about its contribution to the national grid, amidst Panama relying on expensive diesel power due to the lack of other resources.

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2023-Q4

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Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the First Quantum Minerals Ltd Fourth Quarter 2023 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Bonita To, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Bonita To
executive

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today to discuss our fourth quarter results. During the call, we will be making forward-looking statements. As such, I encourage you to read the cautionary notes that accompany this presentation, our MD&A and the related news release. As a reminder, the presentation is available on our website and that all dollar references are in U.S. dollars, unless otherwise noted. On today's call are Tristan Pascall, our Chief Executive Officer; Ryan MacWilliam, our Chief Financial Officer; and Rudi Badenhorst, our Chief Operating Officer. And with that, I will turn the call over to Tristan for opening remarks.

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Thank you, Bonita, and thank you, everybody, for joining our conference call today to discuss our fourth quarter results. Financial and operating results in the fourth quarter last year was significantly impacted by the situation in Panama. As such, the quarter was challenging, not just for First Quantum, but for our investors and our stakeholders in Panama, particularly our workforce, the local communities around us and our suppliers. However, we have a plan in place to address the challenges thrown up by the circumstances in Panama, focused on delivering the future positive cash flows from the Kansanshi S3 expansion, which will provide us the necessary time and space for resolution of Cobre Panama. We have made good progress on our balance sheet initiatives to deliver this plan, such as our announcement yesterday on a $500 million copper prepay. We are also well advanced in discussions with our lenders, and we will keep the market up to date on our progress. I will start today's call with an update on the current situation in Panama, followed by an operational update by Rudi. We will keep these updates brief as understandably the focuses on our balance sheet initiatives, which Ryan will review in detail. I will then close the call with our progress on the Kansanshi S3 expansion project before opening up the lines for Q&A. On our last conference call in October, our refreshed concession contract for the Cobre Panama Mine had successfully been passed into law and published in the official gazette. Soon thereafter, however, civil unrest gained momentum in the country with road blockages and protests against the government and also the mining contract. The road blockages impacted people and businesses across the country and also at Cobre Panama as a legal blockade at the port prevented deliveries of essential supplies for our power plant and eventually force the mine to ramp down and stop production. The blockades also prevented the shipment of concentrate to which both Rudi and Ryan will speak to shortly. On Panama Independence Day, November 28th, after 4 days of deliberation, the Supreme Court and Panama declared Law 406 unconstitutional. This was then followed by announcement on December 19th by the Minister of MEC that a temporary phase of environmental preservation and safe management would be established until June 2024 whilst planning audits and review activities are undertaken. This period will take us into the next administration in Panama with elections across the country to be held in May this year and the new President taking office in July. In addition, the minister noted that it could take up to 2 years to plan and perhaps 10 years or more to implement the measures required following the abrupt halt operations at Cobre Panama. In early January, the company MCE had discussions related to a formalized preservation and safe management program and the associated costs. At the government's request, we submitted our initial plan to address these critical activities on January 16th. As part of this plan, we have proposed the sale of a concentrate on site to fund the initial phase of this critical environmental stability work estimated at around $15 million to $20 million per month, and we currently await a response from MEC on this plan. There is currently no mining activity at Cobre Panama. However, blockades around the mine have dissipated, allowing for the delivery of critical supplies for the environmental stewardship of the asset. We have also commenced international arbitration processes, including notification under the free trade agreement between Canada and Panama and with the International Chamber of Commerce's International Court of Arbitration relating to the 2023 concession contract. That being said, arbitration is not our preferred outcome, and we continue to engage in constructive communication with the government as we remain committed to Panama and being a part of a long-term solution that delivers the best outcome for the country and Panamanians. As we navigate through this period of preservation and safe management at Cobre Panama, I want to reaffirm that our commitment to the environment is at the forefront. Cobre Panama has always operated under best-in-class environmental management and remains committed to this responsibility on a transparent basis, particularly with regards to tailings and water management. At all our mine sites, we implement best practices and here to stringent international standards to minimize our ecological footprint and preserve and restore the natural surroundings. Similarly, our reforestation efforts at Cobre Panama are also world-class and contribute to the livelihoods of many Panamanian farmers. We do acknowledge that we need to improve our broad-based communications, and we have made it a priority to address perceptions of mining by the public in Panama. This includes media campaigns to dispel the misinformation and fake news that gained traction at the close of last year. as well as direct engagement through tours to the mine site for government officials, civil society organizations and community members on an open and transparent basis to demonstrate our best-in-class environmental standards and the benefits of the mine to the country. Panamanians are curious about the mine with almost half of the people recently polled expressing an interest in visiting to understand more about copper mining. And so yesterday, we launched the Cobre Panama visitors and Citizen participation program. We look forward to welcoming some 3,000 people per month who want to learn more about this world-class project that is a huge part of the lives and economy of thousands of citizens and which is also a much-needed contributor to both the global renewable energy transition and to electrification in developing countries around the world. As we continue with our campaigns to inform the Panamanian people about the mine, we are seeing new space begin to open up in Panama in which a reason debate about the role of mining in the economy and society is increasingly possible. I would now like to hand the call over to Rudi, who will provide an update on operations.

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Rudi Badenhorst
executive

Thank you, Tristan. And thank you, everybody, for joining our call today. Copper production in the fourth quarter totaled 160,000 tons, representing a 28% decrease from quarter 3. Sales volumes were also impacted, representing only 80% of the quarter's production and down over 40% from the preceding quarter due to the poor disruptions at Cobre Panama. Copper C1 cash cost of $1.82 per pound during the quarter was $0.40 higher than quarter 3, largely as a result of the lower production volumes. At Cobre Panama, the port disruptions also prevented the delivery of critical supplies to operate the power plant and force the mine to ramp down production. As such, copper production for the fourth quarter was 63,000 tons, representing a decrease of 50,000 tons from the previous quarter. Copper C1 cash cost of $1.45 per pound was $0.26 higher than the previous quarter due to the lower production volumes and the lower byproduct credits. It is worth noting that prior to the disruptions at Cobre Panama, the CP 100 expansion facilities were operating very well, which speaks to the strong capabilities of our projects team and the operation achieved a monthly production record in October and was on track to achieve the top end of its guidance range, which is now suspended. At Kansanshi, the operation produced approximately 32,000 tons of copper, down from the previous quarter by about 8,000 tons due to mining constraints in Main 17 and the Main Pit that impacted mining rates. The latter relates to a mass fire that was experienced in one of the blasting blocks that restricted mining activity. This has been dealt with and is no longer a constraint. Production was also impacted by asset volume restrictions due to unplanned maintenance at the smelter during the quarter. Additional asset is being procured from the copper belt as we rebuild our asset stocks. Kansanshi's production for 2023 was 135,000 tonnes, well within the guidance range. Copper C1 cash cost of $2.43 a pound was $0.80 higher than quarter 3, mainly due to lower production and a onetime catch-up charge on new electricity rates. Production guidance for 2024 is expected to be 130,000 tons to 150,000 tons and 65,000 tons to 70,000 tons of gold. At Sentinel, the operation continued to be impacted by hard ore in the lower levels of Stage 1 and 2 pits. And as such, copper production was down quarter-over-quarter to approximately 60,000 tons. Finding productivity, however, improved over the course of the quarter with improved blast fragmentation and reduced congestion with the commencement of Stage 3 western cutback mining. Copper production for the year as a whole was 24,000 tons, falling short of the guidance. Copper C1 cash cost of $1.85 per pound was $0.20 higher than the preceding quarter, reflecting the lower production. Copper production is expected to be between 220,000 tons and 250,000 tons this year. With regards to the current rainy season, we have recorded more rain when compared to the 2019 to 2023 net season, but less than we experienced during the last wet season. at Sentinel, there has been significant work on weather preparations and store order management processes have been implemented to mitigate the risk of potential water accumulation that was experienced in the previous rainy seasons. That being said, there will be some seasonal impact on the Zambian operations in the first quarter, which is reflected in our annual guidance. Thank you. And I would like now to hand over the call to Ryan to review the financials.

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Thank you, Rudi. As Rudi noted, Cobre Panama was in the state of preservation and safe management for much of the fourth quarter. The blockades around the mine impacted our ability to ship approximately 121,000 tons of copper concentrate, which was produced prior to the Supreme Court ruling. Sales, therefore, fell by more than production. As a result, revenue declined 40% in the quarter to $1.2 billion. EBITDA decreased 72% to $273 million. Our net loss attributable to shareholders was $1.447 billion. This was due to a higher income tax expense from Cobre Panama and an $854 million impairment at Ravensthorpe. The nickel market is under pressure due to the continued ramp-up in supply from Indonesia. This has resulted in both lower nickel prices and lower payabilities for Ravensthorpe. With the muted nickel outlook, we have taken the decision to fully impair Ravensthorpe. Across Western Australia, multiple nickel miners have idle production, and it has been pleasing to see the government respond by designating nickel as a strategic mineral and providing royalty relief to support the industry. Moving on to costs. Copper C1 costs were up 28% quarter-on-quarter to $1.82 per pound, impacted by lower production, higher fuel costs and the impact of once-off adjustments due to the signing of the new power contract in Zambia. Remaining input costs were stable during the quarter. In December, Brent oil prices declined to around $76 per barrel, which should benefit costs in the coming quarter. On to the balance sheet. Net debt increased by $783 million during the quarter to $6.4 billion. Liquidity was $1.2 billion at the end of the year. This comprise of $959 million in cash and $250 million of undrawn revolver after we drew on the revolver through the quarter. There were two main drivers for the change to our debt and liquidity. Firstly, as mentioned in our Q3 results, during the fourth quarter, we made a onetime tax payment of $567 million to the government of Panama. This payment was made prior to the Supreme Court ruling. It was important to make this payment and meet the obligations of Law 406, which preserve the strong arbitration rights that we have under this contract with the government of Panama. This was the largest ever tax payment in Panama's history. And as a reminder for the contribution that the mine has made to the country. Secondly, net debt increased due to the disruptions to shipping at Cobre Panama and the subsequent preservation and safe management of the mine. As I noted earlier, the disruption of the port prevented us from shipping copper concentrate. The sale of this concentrate will provide important funding of approximately $225 million at current market prices. This is required for the implementation of essential environmental stability measures under the preservation and safe management plan at the mine. With Cobre Panama not in operation, our focus is on ensuring that we have a balance sheet that confidently supports the completion of the Kansanshi S3 expansion project, independent of the timing of resolution in Panama. As a result, we already have initiatives underway to strengthen our financial position. These include the suspension of the dividend, the reduction in capital spending and operating cost and working capital optimization. Liquidity has been further bolstered by yesterday's announcement of a $500 million copper prepayment with our long-standing customer, Jiangxi Copper at a competitive cost of funds, in line with that of our bank debt. This 3-year prepayment agreement for 50,000 tonnes of copper per year includes a 1-year grace period before periodic repayment commences. The price at which copper is sold under the agreement will reflect the LME copper price, subject to typical market terms. This prepayment agreement is a reminder of the strategic nature of copper in today's market and the value of stable supply, given the potential disruption to copper production across the sector. In addition to the prepaid, the process to sell our last cruises mine in Spain is well advanced and has attracted interest from a range of parties from various parts of the world, reflecting the strategic location and processing capabilities of this project within Liberian Pyrite belt. As we alluded to in our January guidance release, we've also received expressions of interest regarding our Zambian assets, and as a result, have commenced the process to evaluate the possibility of a minority investment by a strategic investor into this business. This interest is a reflection of the positive business and fiscal reforms that the Zambian government has delivered on in recent years. However, any such proposals received will be considered relative to other options available to the company and will only be pursued if we believe that they will deliver enhanced value and are in the best interest of our shareholders. The options that I have outlined are a subset of those available to the company. As we've mentioned for a couple of months now, we've been considering and pursuing a variety of balance sheet management initiatives across a wide range of finance providers from short-term trade to capital markets. The prepay is an attractive first step in this respect. And we will continue to deliver initiatives which position our balance sheet to support our business' potential to create significant value over the coming period. Lastly, I'd like to address the going concern references in our MD&A and financial statements. Current forecast in 2024 before taking into account future balance sheet initiatives indicate that the company may exceed our net debt-to-EBITDA covenant ratio threshold in the coming 12 months, resulting in a material uncertainty ongoing concern. This is similar to language that has been in our MD&A previously when we have worked through other challenging moments in our history. The nature of this analysis means that it does not factor in potential changes in the company's covenants despite the fact that we are in advanced discussions with our banks in this respect. There is alignment with our banking group regarding amendments to the facilities, to extend our debt amortization, and provide more headroom in respect of our covenants. We expect to conclude these changes in the very near term. This should remove the technical risk around the bank covenants when reviewed at the end of Q1. And that brings the finance section to an end. I'll now hand the call back to Tristan. Thank you, Ryan. The Kansanshi S3 expansion project remains on budget and on schedule to ramp up in the second half of 2025 and will return the company to a position of strong free cash flow generation. The $1.25 billion project is a key part of our ongoing commitment to Zambia, which is supported by the continuing stable investment climate in the country under the current Zambian government administration. Engineering work at the end of the fourth quarter was 80% complete with minor mechanical design left and the balance on instrumentation and control engineering. Deliveries of major long-lead items such as the mills, the primary crusher and process thickeners remain on schedule. Construction on the site continues across all disciplines and excavation of the primary crusher position commenced during the fourth quarter. Similarly, the advancement of the smelter expansion to 1.6 million tons per annum feed capacity and ramp-up of the enterprise nickel mine also remain on track. 2023 closed with the company facing one of its biggest challenges in its recent history. However, I remain confident in the resilience of First Quantum and the determination of the team to work through the current challenges. As Ryan discussed in his section, we are taking a proactive approach to manage our balance sheet and address our liquidity in a fulsome and disciplined manner. An important component to this fulsome solution is an amendment and extension of our loan facilities. We have a long relationship with our lending banks, and there's a high degree of alignment among parties, and we expect to provide an update to the market in short order. Whilst we address our liquidity, we remain focused on running our operations, executing our Kansanshi S3 expansion, and the safe and responsible stewardship of Cobre Panama. Thank you. Operator, I would like to open the line for questions now, please.

Operator

We will now begin the analyst question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Greg Barnes of TD Securities.

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Greg Barnes
analyst

Tristan, can you talk a little bit about the damages of value you're seeking under the arbitration process. So I know you have a $10 billion number in the slide deck, but I'm wondering if that's something you're seeing, or is it something more than that?

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Yes, Greg. I mean, first off, we should highlight that although arbitration is in our preferred outcome, we do have a strong case in arbitration. But we would really rather come to a resolution with the state of Panama that results in the best outcome for the people and for the company. That being said, as part of the free trade arbitration that is between Canada and Panama and the free trade agreement. And as required under the process, we have provided a minimum value sought in those proceedings of $20 billion, reflecting an estimated fair market value of the initial investment. But in reality, with damages and interest, the award could be very much higher. There's been some figures quoted in the Panamanian media, which is several times higher. Alongside that, we do have the ICC arbitration process as well. That's under the auspices of the concession contract from 2023.

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Greg Barnes
analyst

And is it the same value under the ICC premises, Tristan?

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Tristan Pascall
executive

That's under a fair market value consideration. That is the termination cost in the ICC contract.

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Greg Barnes
analyst

And just as a follow-up, I'll just direct this to Ryan. On the copper prepay, how does the mechanics of the repayment of the $500 million actually work?

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Sure, Greg. So the prepay a sale agreement for 50,000 tons of copper over 3 years. And we sell copper to Jiangxi just as we've sold to them in the past as a regular customer at market-related terms. But also as part of the agreement, we received an advanced payment of $500 million with the interest rate on that payment and a floating interest rate forward in line with our bank debt costs. We then sold them the copper as per normal, no discount on LME price on market terms. There's a 1-year grace period. And then in years 2 and 3, we pay them back on that loan plus interest, and that payment is offset against what they would have paid us for the copper in years 2 and 3.

Operator

Our next question comes from Orest Wowkodaw of Scotiabank.

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Orest Wowkodaw
analyst

Ryan, do you have a target of debt reduction corporately in terms of what you're trying to get to with respect to the various transactions you're looking at?

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Orest, the focus is really on having the balance sheet that confidently delivers S3 because it's S3 that delivers Zambia back to being a strong cash flow producer, and then we'll naturally deleverage from there. So we have a clear plan in place. It's a holistic plan. It's well advanced. We announced two important step forwards in that plan today, which is the copper prepay and alignment on the bank covenants, and we'll keep the market updated in short order on further progress.

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Orest Wowkodaw
analyst

Does the prepay qualify or is it considered debt under the covenants? Or was that considered not debt?

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Yes. So from an accounting perspective, it will be deferred revenue. But from a debt perspective, from a covenant perspective will likely be included in the covenant calculation.

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Orest Wowkodaw
analyst

I see. So it's still -- it helps you with liquidity, but not with your debt covenants?

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Correct. The focus on the debt covenants has really been that discussion with the banks. And I'd just like to note, appreciation for the supportive and constructive approach that our banks have taken in the discussions with us to reach alignment on new covenants.

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Orest Wowkodaw
analyst

Okay. And can you give us an idea, how much of a minority interest are you considering in Zambia in terms of a potential sale to a strategic?

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Orest, I wouldn't get too much into the specifics at this stage other than to say we've received interest from a number of parties in respect of Zambia and stakes within our business. I think that's a function of it being a high-quality copper business in Zambia and also the real improvement we've seen in Zambia, which has attracted a variety of parties also to make other investments in Zambia, and we'll explore those discussions in a disciplined manner. And if there's a transaction that makes sense for shareholders, we'll progress with that transaction. If not, we're comfortable with the existing ownership structure in Zambia.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jackie Przybylowski of BMO Capital Markets.

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Jackie Przybylowski
analyst

I just wanted to ask you about the unsold copper concentrate that you have in Panama, 121,000 tons. If you could tell us -- I know it hasn't been sold yet. If you could tell us maybe if you expect it will be sold in the first quarter or if we should assume that's a second quarter transaction. And as a follow-up, I guess, it'd be helpful just given the law 406 has been overturned. If you could talk a little bit about what like taxes and royalty rates and things that you're expecting you would owe on that sale, if and when it happens?

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Sure, Jackie. Yes. So there's 121,000 tons sitting in the shed and it's clear from our perspective that was mined and processed prior to the Supreme Court decision, and that provides the pathway to ship it out. We'd like to press for that. So certainly, we submitted the preservation and safe management plan on the 16th of January. And in conversations with the ministry, a key component of that plan and how to address the environmental stewardship of the site, which is needed as to how those costs are met. So the concentrate is an important part of that. In addition, we don't want to see any gassing or anything coming off that concentrate. So there's a strong argument to move it. We would like to press that as soon as possible. And in regard to the royalties and so on due, look, that's yet to be resolved with the government. But looking at the way the current mining code works, we would expect that the mining code royalties would apply to that. We don't see that the minimum tax, the previous arrangements under the Law 406 we do, and we'd be looking at royalties under the current mining code.

Operator

Our next question comes from Dalton Baretto of Canaccord Genuity.

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Dalton Baretto
analyst

Tristan and team, just I'm wondering if I could ask you about the situation around the election in Panama right now. I understand Martinelli has been disqualified and running. So I'm wondering what the Board looks like to you right now and how you're thinking about both the election as well as your actions post the election.

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Yes, sure. So I think there's two parts. The first is that, as I was saying there, it's important that some activities commenced on the site, and that's really to address the environmental stewardship requirements right now, and we're seeing positive signs in terms of framework around the preservation and safe management plan that is in discussion with the current administration. The election is in May. There's some 8 candidates running for that. I think, Dalton, what we'd say is whoever comes in the solutions that are provided by the mine in terms of contribution to the economy, contributions to employment, social security, social infrastructure are extremely important and can't be ignored in the context of the challenges that Panama is experiencing in terms of lower growth rates and also the situation with low water and so on. So we're seeing very high-power prices in the country, getting the power plant running would provide an active contribution to support high power prices for people in their homes in Panama. These are the issues that the incoming administration will need to deal with whichever the successful outcome of the democratic elections is.

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Dalton Baretto
analyst

Okay. And then I think you said earlier in your comments that you're seeing new space for responsible debate on the role of mining. What does that look like in Panama right now? And what's the plan post the election to address sort of the social license.

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Sure, Dalton. So I think the decision by the Supreme Court last year was understandable in terms of a release valve and a lot of emotion in the country. What was a surprise was that they stopped operations. And that needs to be dealt with because stopping things in such a hard stock can be very detrimental to the environment. And so that's the reason why the preservation and safe management framework is important that those activities can get underway. I think there's an understanding that mines can't stop dead and there needs to be a fulsome work out of that solution. So we've seen MCE talk about developing a plan over 2 years, and it may perhaps take up to 10 years to resolve that. In terms of opening further space, we acknowledge there was a lot of emotion. We need to do more in terms of broad-based communication in speaking to people. I think Panama is interested to learn about in the mine. If you ask them, what should happen from this point that's challenging for people to answer. And I think that is a space, but a lot needs to be done in terms of this time in front of the election and then into the run-up to the new administration coming in.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ralph Profiti of Eight Capital.

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Ralph Profiti
analyst

I just have one. The MCE delivery of this preliminary draft on January 16th include proposals for cost sharing of the $15 million to $20 million a month after successful monetization of those inventories. Just wondering how we should think about sort of who fits the bill in that medium term.

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Sure, Ralph. So what happened is that MCE had asked for us to submit a plan. That is the say this needs to be addressed. How will you address the safe environmental management of the site. So they called for a plan. And so it was our submission, a preservation and safe management plan that dealt with the topics of the environmental stewardship that is required. It dealt with the topics of the welfare of employees and how they would be looked after given the circumstances. Security of the asset, safe maintenance that is keeping the assets in good standing, and then also the costs. And certainly, there's an understanding in terms of that framework that the cost of that environmental stewardship do need to be met. So the concentrator is available for that. It also eliminates potential environmental degradation on the concentrate itself. And that would address that $15 million to $20 million per month. that's the necessary level in order to ensure environmental stewardship. That's at a level of about 1,400 people per site, which is about the right level. Beyond that, the ability to operate some of the machinery there would give us greater ability to ensure that PH in the tailing dam is held within compliance, and that is there is no degradation in terms of downstream environmental impacts, and we've seen that all the way through Panama. It really has been operating as a gold standard environmentally, particularly in regard to discharge of water from the tailings dam, all our independent audits to return those very high standard results. And for that to continue, those costs do need to be addressed, and that was part of the plan that we put forward.

Operator

Our next question comes from Bryce Adams of CIBC Capital Markets.

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Bryce Adams
analyst

Firstly, just noting the Ravensthorpe impairment. It might be difficult with so many unknowns, but what are the triggers for an impairment test on Cobre Panama? That test, is that something that's being considered? Or was arbitration initiated it's not required. Just wondering what the trigger might be for the testing there.

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Yes. Sure, Bryce. So we do look at impairment triggers across our assets. That included Ravensthorpe, included Cobre Panama, and you then consider a variety of scenarios going forward at Cobre Panama as you work through that impairment analysis. And I think it's important to note that you also consider potential arbitration outcomes when you conduct that analysis. And on the basis of that, we were comfortable with the book value we have for Cobre Panama.

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Bryce Adams
analyst

Okay. And for a follow-up, I'm going to go back to the copper concentrate at Cobre Panama. Do you feel successful in shipping out cone, do you expect that all of the net revenue is available for care and maintenance costs? And in that scenario, is there a potential for a write-down to the amount of the cost of the inventory?

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Yes. So Bryce, the way it would work is we would sell that copper concentrate that would generate around $20 million $20 million of cash, around $160 million of EBITDA. So that normally would have been EBITDA that would have flowed into Q4, that would then flow in Q1. And that cash amount would, we expect broadly, fund the preservation and environmental work at sites for the most of this year.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ioannis Masvoulas of Morgan Stanley.

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Ioannis Masvoulas
analyst

First question from me, going back to the prepayment agreement. Could this deal in any way restrict the pool of possible bidders for a minority stake, given that you have to sell 50,000 tons per annum to join for the next 3 years? And then within that, do you have capacity to do more of these deals, for example, at Sentinel?

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Sure, Ioannis. So to your first question, no, the contracting added entity is our marketing subsidiary and it's a small percentage of the overall copper production from our Zambian business. In terms of your second question, yes, there is potential for future agreements like this one. We'll assess them on a case-by-case basis, just as we do all our financing options and where we feel they are at competitive terms that make sense for us, we'll enter into them.

Operator

Our next question comes from Lawson Winder of Bank of America Securities.

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Lawson Winder
analyst

Great. I just wanted to get a little bit of clarity on the prepay. I wasn't 100% clear that there are no caps or floors.

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Ryan MacWilliam
executive

Correct, Lawson, it's at LME prices. So there's no implicit hedging agreements locked into the prepay. It's just about purely selling physical copper at market-related prices. And as part of that, there's also a loan agreement to First Quantum.

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Lawson Winder
analyst

Okay. Perfect. Also wanted to ask about potential asset monetization or minority sales. So I mean, through your consistent communication with the market and with us, Taca Taca has never been mentioned as a possible asset that could be monetized to help with liquidity and strengthening the balance sheet. Is that something you guys talk about internally?

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Sure. Lawson, we certainly looked at that. Taca Taca is a great project. We think it hangs together really well. The question -- the current stage of the asset is we need to address two questions; one, the environmental social impact assessment approval and secondly, the investment climate in Argentina. And at this stage, we think both of those, particularly the investment climate, although we're seeing with the new administration, there certainly intent, but it's really yet -- we're yet to see implementation that would, we think, impacted the way in which a process would go forward. Certainly, as we look at that asset, the potential for partnership and so on in the future, we've been open to say we would look at that. I think it really needs to get to a shovel-ready position, Lawson, before we could look further into that.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ian Rossouw of Barclays.

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Ian Rossouw
analyst

Just one question on this preservation and safe management program. Does any of your proposals include producing new copper to help fund the ongoing program going forward? And maybe just as part of that, you mentioned that now that the blockades have cleared, have you been able to restart the power plant and selling into the grid?

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Rudi Badenhorst
executive

Sure, Ian. At this time, no, the power plant is still idle. We'd like to see that happen. Producing that power would certainly have a very positive impact for Panamanians in terms of reducing power price in the grid. It's currently at a historical high because of low water in the hydro dams in the country. And this time of year is always a low because of rainfall normally and because of low wind and solar. So currently, Panama is running a lot of diesel power, which is very expensive and certainly, the power station can contribute to the national grid. In terms of running operations and generating new copper, that alternative is available in that turning the mill and producing on one train as we were during the care and maintenance stage during the COVID period. We're certainly able to hold the environmental stewardship, particularly around the tailings dam in a very strong position. And ultimately, it's the buffering from the lime addition, the buffering from the processing in the milling trains. And certainly, you could achieve that by some level of operation. It really holds things steady and holds things constant. It would also provide the sand that's necessary for the ongoing cycling sand construction on the tailings dam. Without that, you're challenged around erosion, your challenge around long term on those issues on the tolling stand because all of the long-term planning was there. But in the interim, there is ongoing construction that is required on the dam and to manage PH in the tolling -- in the facility itself.

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Tristan Pascall for any closing remarks.

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Tristan Pascall
executive

Thank you very much, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. We certainly appreciate the support, and we look forward to talking to you again soon.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.