First Time Loading...

Primo Water Corp
TSX:PRMW

Watchlist Manager
Primo Water Corp Logo
Primo Water Corp
TSX:PRMW
Watchlist
Price: 29.24 CAD 1.07% Market Closed
Updated: May 21, 2024

Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2019-Q1

from 0
Operator

Good morning and welcome to Cott Corporation's First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] This call will end no later than 11:00 a.m. Eastern Time. The call is being webcast live on Cott's website at www.cott.com and will be available for a playback there until May 17, 2019. This conference call contains forward-looking statements, including statements concerning the company's future financial and operational performance. These statements should be considered in connection with cautionary statements and disclaimers contained in the Safe Harbor statements in this morning's earnings press release and the company's Annual Report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and other filings with U.S. and Canadian security regulators. The company's actual performance could differ materially from these statements, and the company undertakes no duty to update these forward-looking statements except as expressly required by applicable law. A reconciliation of any non-GAAP financial measures discussed during this call with the most comparable measures in the accordance with GAAP is available in the company's first quarter 2019 earnings announcement released earlier this morning or on the Investor Relations section of the company's website at www.cott.com. I'll now turn the call over to Jarrod Langhans, Cott's VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

J
Jarrod Langhans

Good morning and thank you for joining our call. Today I'm accompanied by Tom Harrington, our Chief Executive Officer, and Jay Wells, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, we have also included a deck on our website at www.cott.com for you to follow along with while we go through the script.Tom will start this morning's call by providing his thoughts on our operational performance during the quarter relative to expectations as well as our full year outlook. He will then turn the call over to Jay for a discussion of our first quarter consolidated financial performance as well as the results of our key operating segments, and Tom will conclude with some of our recent initiatives before we move to Q&A.With that, let me now turn the call over to Tom.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Thank you, Jarrod, and good morning, everyone. With my first quarter as CEO of the company now in the books, I'm pleased to report that we delivered solid top line revenue growth despite higher-than-expected headwinds from FX. We remain confident we will deliver our 2019 revenue guidance of over $2.4 billion in addition to delivering on our free cash flow guidance of $150 million plus.Total company revenues grew 7% adjusted for FX and green coffee cost with route-based services, RBS, delivering 9% on an FX-neutral basis, a result of solid organic growth and the benefit of acquisitions completed by the team in 2018. Our coffee, tea and extract business delivered 6% coffee and tea volume growth and 4% adjusted revenue growth even with the previously announced revenue headwinds expected in the first half of the year. We did experience some incremental operating cost to support the increased growth.In our RBS business segment, the early results for customer-centric initiatives have manifested themselves in a number of ways - continued improvement in our service level to our customers, increased penetration of products solid in addition to our core 5-gallon returnable bottles as well as continued improvement in the churn rate of our customer base. During the quarter, I had the opportunity to visit a number of locations across our North American RBS business to see the progress we are making firsthand. I enjoy meeting directly with associates, whether it be early in the morning before our route sales representatives, RSRs, start their routes, or at one of our many plants across our production footprint. As my management team would tell you, I have a hands-on approach to our operations, as I believe it is important to communicate directly with our front-line teammates. It is a process that enables our associates to communicate directly with me about how we can improve the customer experience.In relation to our RSR staffing levels, over the last 18 months, we have refined our compensation plans to ensure we are competitive in each market and, more importantly, to ensure the RSR incentives and the growth initiatives of the company are aligned. Our RSRs can increase their compensation by supporting our customer experience initiatives, improving our churn rate, and driving revenue growth. As of the end of March, our efforts have resulted in approximately 100% staffing across our RSR positions. We are also focused on adding new products to our portfolio to support increased revenue per customer in HOD, such as LaCroix Sparkling Water, Polar Seltzer Water in the Northeast, and Sparkling Ice. Early results are positive in terms of both RSR execution and customer adoption. Moving to CapEx, we're pleased to see that the tariffs for bottled water coolers were rescinded during the quarter, although we are still waiting for the refund from the federal government. While the bottled water cooler tariff was removed, there are still tariffs on water filtration coolers. Even with the removal of the tariffs on bottled water coolers, we continue to focus on reducing costs relative to overseas equipment purchases by increasing the number of coolers we refurbish internally.Shifting to acquisitions, we remain pleased with the performance of Crystal Rock and initial performance of Mountain Valley. In terms of tuck-ins, we expect to execute at the high end of the range of $40 million to $60 million previously communicated.Moving to the quarterly results, revenue tracked better than expected as we over-delivered on growth even with the pressures we experienced in foreign exchange and coffee commodity pass-through costs. In looking at our route-based services segment, our FX-neutral HOD water revenue grew over 8%, 4% growth excluding Crystal Rock and Mountain Valley driven by an increased customer base, with customers up 1%, again excluding Mountain Valley and Crystal Rock; continued improvement in our retention rates; execution of our previously discussed pricing actions; and improving penetration of other products, such as cups and case-pack water as well as branded products like LaCroix, Polar Seltzer, and Sparkling Ice.As I mentioned earlier, our North American RBS churn, or quit rate, continue to improve and was better by another 10 basis points in the quarter, which continues to drive a 4.7 year-plus average customer life, which bodes well for our full year and long-term aspirations.In addition, as noted in our last quarter's call, we will have some pricing pressure during the first half of the year within our coffee, tea and extract solutions business, which will flow through price mix and other on the bridges within our press release. As we completed the quarter, we're pleased to see that many of our efforts began to flow through and were able to offset a good portion of the pricing pressures with increased coffee and tea volumes, which were up 6% in the quarter, in addition to our extracts division volume, which was up 10%. Our performance in coffee, tea and extracts indicates that we continue to improve our market-leading position in this segment.With this quarter behind us, our confidence has grown in our ability to deliver on our full year expectations. So on that note, I will pass over to Jay to cover the quarter's consolidated financial performance in more detail as well as our key operating segment performance.

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

Thank you, Tom, and good morning, everyone. We saw good top line performance with revenues up 7% on an adjusted basis driven by our route-based services operating segment, which had revenue increase by 9% on a foreign exchange neutral basis. Revenue growth was driven primarily by the HOD water division of our route-based services segment, which grew over $20 million and included the benefit of around $11 million from the Crystal Rock and Mountain Valley acquisitions. As Tom noted, with this growth, we remain on track to deliver over $2.4 billion of revenue for the year.Excluding Cott Beverages LLC, which was sold in February, gross margin as a percentage of revenue was flat at 49.9% as the fixed costs leverage from revenue growth was offset by around $7 million of negative foreign exchange impacts and the increased operating costs Tom noted. Excluding Cott Beverages LLC, SG&A increased to $271 million compared to $258 million due primarily to the Crystal Rock and Mountain Valley acquisitions, partially offset by around $5 million of foreign exchange benefit.Other expense of approximately $6 million was driven by noncash items such as unrealized FX and the sale of Cott Beverages LLC. Adjusted EBITDA was $63 million compared to $64 million as the benefit of strong top line growth was offset by the negative impact of approximately $2 million of foreign exchange, around $2 million of increased operating costs driven by growth as well as the competitive pricing environment within our coffee segment. Adjusted free cash flow from continuing operations was $4 million in the quarter compared to $22 million as a result of timing of working capital as well as other income in the prior year. In terms of free cash flow cadence, we typically see free cash flow usage in the first half of the year as we build inventory and prepare for the busy summer season, and then we see good growth in the back half of the year. In addition, we will have 2 interest payments in Q2 with no interest payments in Q3. As we look at full year 2019, we remain confident in delivering $150 million-plus of adjusted free cash flow. On CapEx, we expect 2019 CapEx to be around $120 million.Turning to returns to shareholders. During the first quarter, we returned approximately $19 million to shareholders through $8 million in quarterly dividends and $11 million of share repurchases. Let me now cover the operating performance of our route-based services segment. The route-based services segment saw revenue increase 9% on an FX-neutral basis. The first quarter is historically a quarter where we focus on preparing for the summer selling season by setting up our marketing programs, implementing CapEx and cost reduction projects as well as implementing technological upgrades and rollouts in advance of the busier summer periods. With that said, we had good growth in our HOD water channel, where revenue grew around 4% on an FX-neutral basis and excluding Crystal Rock and Mountain Valley. This growth was driven by our pricing initiative, a strong customer base, which was up approximately 1% year-over-year, excluding Crystal Rock and Mountain Valley, and higher volumes, which included increases in 5-gallon bottles as well as greater penetration in other products, such as cups, case-pack water, LaCroix, Polar Beverages, and Sparkling Ice.Gross profit increased 4% to $243 million driven primarily by growth in revenue. Gross margin as a percentage of revenue was 57.7% compared to 58.4% as the leverage from revenue growth was offset by $7 million of negative foreign exchange and around $2 million of increased cost associated with adjusting production to support revenue growth. SG&A increased to $225 million compared to $215 million due primarily to the addition of Crystal Rock and Mountain Valley, partially offset by a foreign exchange benefit of $5 million. Adjusted EBITDA was flat at $60 million as revenue growth was offset by a $2 million negative foreign exchange impact as well as roughly $2 million of increased production cost previously mentioned. Let me now cover the operating performance of our coffee, tea and extract solutions segment. We continued to take market share in the first quarter with a 6% increase in coffee and tea pounds sold, which when combined with a 10% increase in liquid extracts, drove a 4% increase in revenue when adjusting for the change in average cost of coffee. Liquid extract growth in the quarter was lower than our 30% full year growth expectations as we were [ lapping ] 59% growth in Q1 2018 when we had a significant new customer pipeline fill. Gross profit improved to $40 million compared to $39 million driven by increased volumes. SG&A was $36 million compared to $34 million driven primarily by increased selling cost, which in turn resulted in adjusted EBITDA of $9 million compared to $10 million. All in all, we were pleased with the results of our coffee, tea and extract solutions segment as the business was able to generate significant volume growth to mostly offset the pricing pressure that was experienced as a result of the competitive environment. As we noted on our previous earnings call, this pricing pressure is expected to continue into Q2, but we will continue to drive volume growth to offset some of this pressure.I will now turn the call back to Tom.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Thanks, Jay. On that note, let me give you an update on some of our 2019 initiatives, including environmental, social and governance, or ESG; customers' experience, service and growth; progress on our U.S. route-based online marketing initiatives; and product penetration and channel expansion. Starting with ESG, as the Vice President of ESG, Shayron Barnes-Selby, mentioned during our Investor Day, we have become a member of the Alliance for Water Stewardship and are working through the latest release of their requirements with the intention of becoming compliant by 2025. We're also developing plans to achieve carbon neutrality certification in North America, which we will look to complete in 2021. As a reminder, we're already certified carbon-neutral within our European operations. These items as well as a number of other initiatives can be found under the Sustainability section of our website.In addition, we continue to benefit from the sustainability and sourcing programs within our coffee segment, as these programs have created a competitive advantage for us in terms of acquiring new customers and/or growing the product mix within our current customers as we can offer a program that allows our customers to market the fact they're utilizing sustainable sourcing programs that can be traced all the way back to the growers.Moving to our customer initiatives. During the quarter in the U.S., we began to see improvement within our route-based customer acquisition programs as we built headcount in our direct sales force, which is focused on small commercial businesses with 10 to 15 employees on location as well as our booth programs, ending the quarter in a good place for the summer selling season. In addition, we continue to progress on a number of online and social media ventures, including a recent marketing initiative that I will cover shortly. As it relates to service, our churn rate continues to improve. In Europe, we experienced positive activity in most of our markets, and I believe we are set up well in relation to our Q2 and Q3 customer growth plans focused in high-density areas. In addition, we continue to see good progress with the rollout of a number of other customer acquisition initiatives, and customer service continues to be a focus, resulting in customer lives and churn rate in Europe keeping pace with historical performance.In combination with these sales efforts, we continue to spend a significant amount of energy and resources on the customer experience, and we will continue to look at these programs as key areas of focus and investment, going forward, as these activities assist in driving a lower quit rate, longer customer lifecycle, and support our ability to drive organic customer growth and revenue per customer location. As we noted throughout 2018, we continue to see a historically low churn rate in North America, and we continue to make incremental progress in areas such as improved logistics and efficiencies within our call center. In addition, we remain on track for a second-half release of our new filtration unit, and we continue to anticipate seeing our new mobile app released in the back half of the year in the U.S., and then we will work to release a similar tool in the remaining RBS footprint.Turning to our online marketing initiatives. As many of you are aware, a large e-commerce company is working towards offering a recurring bottled water delivery service within its online home services platform. We're pleased to note that we would be test marketing this program in a limited number of zip codes during the second quarter. And once refined, we would expect to expand to other U.S. zip codes throughout 2019 and into 2020. We will provide more details as this program is fully launched.Moving to product penetration and expansion. Within our route-based services segment, we developed a number of new initiatives around driving additional revenue per customer through the utilization of well-known products such as LaCroix, Sparkling Ice, and Polar Seltzer. As I noted earlier, we've begun rolling out our updated compensation packages to encourage our RSRs to support further revenue growth per customer. We've seen incremental improvement in penetration each month this quarter, and we would expect this improvement to continue throughout the year. In addition, with the rollout of our mobile app in the back half of the year, we'll be introducing a tool that will assist in further penetration, as our customers will be able to easily order products on the app.In terms of product and channel penetration, our coffee, tea and extract solution segment continues to see growth in our liquid extract division, which has landed a number of new contracts and has acted as not only a way to further entrench the business into our customers' supply chain, but has also allowed us to profitably engage customers and channels that we had not targeted in the past. In addition, through our combination of sales efforts and our high-quality product and service offerings, we've been able to capture some market share by picking up volume from new customers that have previously been served by our competitors.Before moving to Q&A, I'd like to take a moment and thank all of our associates, without whom we would not be able to accomplish everything we intend on accomplishing in 2019. So thank you all for your efforts thus far, and I look forward to our continued success as we look to deliver over $2.4 billion in revenue as well as $150 million plus in free cash flow. I will now turn the call back to Jarrod to move us to Q&A.

J
Jarrod Langhans

Thank you, gentlemen. During the Q&A, so that we can hear from as many of you as possible, we would ask for a limit of one question and one follow-up per person. Thank you for your time. Operator, please open up the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Amit Sharma from BMO.

A
Amit Sharma
Analyst

Jay, can we just go back into some of the issues that might have weighed on the EBITDA this quarter, right? Obviously, FX is one of them, and you also talked about higher operating cost. Can you provide a little bit more clarity on it? And then, just talk about how long will that be a headwind as you go through the rest of the quarters.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Amit, this is Tom. I'll take part of your question, then I'll ask Jay to cover the FX portion.What happened is, really in March, as our volume expanded, the tightening labor market, we had some unplanned openings that required us to use some temporary labor and unplanned overtime to ensure that we met our customers' need as well as the fact that we're enjoying higher growth in both business segments. So it was a combination of factors, the largest of which was production that experienced in the month of March.They are timing related. The teams are very focused on filling those positions and working market-by-market to put full-time associates on place so that we can reduce those costs on a go-forward basis. And it remains a work in progress.

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

And on the FX, the last call I believe I mentioned that the rates as we close the year, we in our forecasting have about a 1% FX headwind. When you look at the quarter, as the quarter went on, I would say the U.S. dollar strengthened against the euro, against the pound. So I would say FX was probably $1 million more of an EBITDA headwind in the quarter. We still are hoping that it will rebound back and we'll get back to more of an overall 1% FX headwind in the year, but we did see some additional FX toward the back end of the period as the dollar did strengthen against those foreign currencies.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Amit, this is Tom. Just 2 other points. I did note in my prepared comments that we are essentially 100% filled on the RSRs, which is an important component as we move into the summer selling season. And we're also essentially filled on the freight, or IBT, position. So we filled those open positions as we'd talked about in previous quarters.

A
Amit Sharma
Analyst

So if I'm -- understanding is right, so you have more visibility on this unexpected cost that we saw in 1Q, along with better absorption as volumes pick up in the stronger summer quarters. Is that fair?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

I think that's fair.

A
Amit Sharma
Analyst

And just last one, Tom, if you look at the stock today obviously things are, on a top line perspective, moving along, I think ahead of our expectation for sure, anything that you can do from management perspective or board perspective to like temper some of this volatility in the stock?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Clearly, early on, and I haven't obviously looked at the price in the last half hour, would be the reaction to the EPS miss. And we beat revenue. We're pretty happy about where revenue is. We'll deal with these operating costs, which are a result of some open positions and the growth of the business. So we think the business is in a pretty good spot as we enter the summer selling season.

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

Yes. When you look at the EPS miss, Amit, you really have to look at other income, which are other expense technically, which the new lease accounting rules, the fact that we ended up closing the sale of RCI in concentrate in January versus December, the lease accounting rules basically changed that transaction from about a $5 million gain to about a $5 million loss just because we had to book some assets, take some deferred gains off. So without the lease accounting rule, I would say we would have been almost spot-on to EPS expectation. So that was unfortunate on the timing of that close, but that's what I think might be pushing our stock price where it is today.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Derek Lessard from TD Securities.

D
Derek J. Lessard
Research Analyst

Maybe if you can just talk about the pricing or competitive dynamic that's going on in the coffee segment, and perhaps more specifically on the rationality of it all.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes. Most of the coffee pricing occurred last year. As we've mentioned in the past, we don't have any pending RFPs or new bids for the couple years, and it really is the overhang of that pricing pressure on our business in the first and second quarter of the year. We're really happy with the performance of the coffee volume growth at 6%, and then 10% on extracts, and that 10% on extracts is on top of 59% growth last year. So we're pretty happy with the performance of the team offsetting the impacts of that super-competitive market last year.And as I said, we have nothing on the near-term horizon, which to me is a year or 2 in terms of RFPs coming our way.

D
Derek J. Lessard
Research Analyst

Has that competitive environment eased up?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes. We haven't had any attacks against our business because we don't have RFPs open. And I know there's RFPs that'll come up later this year. We do gain extract business as a regular basis.

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

The key thing -- and the one thing that I did mention, though it is a competitive pricing, our quality, our ability, what we offer our customers, with 6% growth in coffee and tea pounds, we're definitely taking market share from our competitors. So even though it might be a competitive environment, I think we're performing very well in that environment.

D
Derek J. Lessard
Research Analyst

Yes, absolutely. And maybe just a follow-up on the extract business. 10% is pretty solid considering the tougher comp. But you also mentioned that you're looking for 30% growth on the year. Just wondering how your confidence is still with that growth objective.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes, Derek. We have a high degree of confidence we'll make that 30% number.

D
Derek J. Lessard
Research Analyst

And what's giving you that confidence? Just on new growth, new customers?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

We have increases in sales cost and a developing pipeline that indicates that -- and we have a high degree that we'll make that number. So we see what's coming pending, on its way.

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

Yes. I mean, you look at the first quarter. We're talking about quarterly growth. So you want to break it down to periods. In the first and second period, we did see that type of 30%-plus growth. In period 3, we were lapping 129% growth in extracts last year in period 3. But if you look at the other 2 periods versus prior year, we were seeing that growth. It was just the one period comp where, like I said, we had a very large pipeline, so last year. But in the other 2 periods of the quarter, we were seeing that type of growth.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Nik Modi from RBC.

S
Sunil Harshad Modi

Just a few questions. Jay, maybe you can just help us understand, when you talk about some of these higher operating costs, it seems like it's onetime, but it doesn't feel like it's going to be onetime just given what's going on in the labor market, how human intensive your business is. So maybe you can talk about how Cott can think about managing that risk, going forward, whether it be through pricing or other actions.And then, Tom, I guess the question for you, now that you've been in the CEO role, getting your legs under you, how do you think about -- I guess to the earlier question about stock volatility and just general communication to the investor community regarding Cott's near-term results just as you try to build a track record as an incoming CEO. Thank you.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

In terms of the operating cost, the good news is we have the prior headwind of freight better under control. The team took the actions to fill the positions. We reference our investment in direct sales force, so we have confidence that in both the coffee side of the business in terms of their efforts against the pipeline as well as in RBS in terms of the commercial sales headcount and the sales headcount associated with the booth program, that we're in a good place in terms of arms and legs to get that done. Our RSRs, for the last time I can remember, essentially 100%, and that is the single-most important position we have.And then, we got caught late in a quarter with this production opportunity. We lost some people. We had the growth, so it forced us into overtime and temp costs. The teams are diligently working branch-by-branch, right, production branch, to address those openings and fill those. We're confident that, as the year progresses, is that we'll adjust the workforce, it's just another lever for us, and that the team has to focus on adjusting that. They're working on that now to get the headcount in place.In terms of my first 120 days here, I'm quite pleased with the top line performance of the company. It's higher growth than we'd previously communicated, and FX was not our friend in the quarter. It's higher in the first quarter than our full year forecast. That's created a further headwind. And I view these costs as short-term and that the team will get them in place so that we can consistently deliver on our commitments. We remain committed to over $2.4 billion in revenue for the year and $150 million plus of free cash flow.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Peter Grom from JPMorgan.

P
Peter K. Grom
Analyst

So I was kind of hoping you could elaborate on the tuck-in commentary. If tuck-ins are expected to be at the high end of the range, does that imply the tailwind from tuck-ins for free cash flow and EBITDA is also at the high end? Or are valuations higher than we have seen historically? And if it is at the high end with free cash flow guidance reiterated, does that imply any change to your previously outlined underlying growth or synergy assumptions?And maybe this builds on the last portion, but if those underlying assumptions are unchanged as we look ahead, it seems to imply more like high single-digit EBITDA growth in the balance of the year. I guess what kind of visibility or confidence do you have that your business can accelerate meaningfully from here? And just last, from a phasing standpoint, anything we should think about from a Q2 or back-half EBITDA? Thanks.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Well, that was a couple of questions. Let me sort through those. In terms of tuck-ins, the high end, we have visibility on small deals in process. They will be back weighted, so we continue to work through their execution. They have always been part of our plan in terms of -- we've said 2% to 3% organic, 4% to 5% in total when we add those acquisitions. First quarter was better. And we see the tuck-ins phasing later in the year on both sides of the Atlantic at this point. So that was, I think, one question.We don't see any changes to our guidance at this point in time, so our focus on delivering our original commitments of the $2.4 billion and the $151 million-plus in terms of free cash flow. As those tuck-ins come in later, we don't enjoy a full benefit to really have that -- similar to our pricing initiatives last year, you get a little bit of benefit in 1 year, and then you get the flop benefit in 2020. That's how I think about the tuck-ins and their impact on the algorithm.

P
Peter K. Grom
Analyst

And then, nothing changed from an underlying growth, so I guess it was $10 million to $15 million, or synergies $7 million to $8 million standpoint?

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

Nothing different on the full year, the same cadence we discussed on the last earnings call.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes, similar to what we presented on Investor Day, which provided the clarity on how we build free cash flow.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Derek Dley from Canaccord Genuity.

D
Derek Dley
MD & Consumer Products Analyst

Just a question on you extract capacity. Where are you guys at today in terms of capacity utilization? And do you have enough capacity online or coming online to support that target of 30% growth?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

The answer is yes, right? So we have capacity for the next year or 2 at that 30%. So we're confident we can deliver what we need this year, and if it grew more, we could deliver that, as well.

D
Derek Dley
MD & Consumer Products Analyst

And then, on the sort of growth split within the RBS division, in the past you guys have helped us quantify the breakdown between consumption, customer growth, and pricing. Can you do that again this quarter?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes. So the drivers were obviously the pricing and customer base, which was good performance in increase revenue per customer plus tuck-ins. And you can refer to the...

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

I really think that, if I can, we posted on our deck, the presentation deck, and Jarrod's looking at the slide, a bridge of our growth within HOD water that...

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes, so it's Page 6 of the deck we prepared, and you can see the impact of customer and volume. And this is narrowly HOD water, right? Customer and volume at $4 million, price mix at $5 million, and then we call out specifically Crystal Rock and Mountain Valley, and then the negative impact of FX on HOD water during the quarter.

D
Derek Dley
MD & Consumer Products Analyst

Right. So the first line there, the HOD water, I'm just a little confused on what that represents.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Confused about what? So it's the HOD water revenue inside of RBS, excludes retail, excludes filtration, excludes OCS and a bit of Other. And you can see that on the press release on Page 2 in terms of what's not in, may be better asset.

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

Yes. On the percentages, I called out about 1% on new customers. You look at price, and you look at the graphed on the price, I said around 2% on price, and then the remainder would be on volume, to kind of break it down and I think in the percentages you're looking for.

D
Derek Dley
MD & Consumer Products Analyst

Yes, that's perfect.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mark Petrie from CIBC.

M
Mark Robert Petrie

Wondering if you could just give a bit more clear picture in terms of the organic core gross margin and SG&A percentage performance in route-based services, and I guess the HOD business specifically. And I know, broadly speaking, you've talked about this business as being a sort of $10 million to $20 million EBITDA margin leverage business over the course of time. At what point do you think that it's realistic to be delivering that kind of stability and that kind of result? I mean, is that a back half of the year sort of aspiration, or when should we expect to see that kind of result?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Well, we'd like to see stability start in the next quarter and on a go-forward basis. We enjoy the top line growth. As I said, the teams are working on managing the operating cost. I can't control FX, but you know that, and FX did hit us more than we had anticipated in Q1. And we would expect to build stability in the RBS business on a go-forward basis, and the revenue growth is going to help us do that and create some leverage.

M
Mark Robert Petrie

And then on the coffee, tea and extract business, is it sort of just getting through the noise of Q2 and the pricing pressure there, and then it's a back-half…

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes. We previously shared that Q1 and Q2 we'd have that pricing pressure from prior year RFP. The team did a fine job, frankly, with volume, 6% volume growth in the base coffee business, and we expect that to stabilize as we move through Q2 and get to Q3 and Q4. So it's back-half-weighted for sure.

M
Mark Robert Petrie

And when you look at the back half, I mean, what would be the biggest risks to delivering that kind of stability at this point, I mean, outside of things like FX that obviously are just out of your control and transient?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

We don't see huge risk, coffee commodity cost to the side. We exclude that. Is there any other pressure in the labor market that comes our way in terms of RBS? We think we're in a good spot. We have some work to do, but that's the unknown, excluding FX from our view.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Moore from CJS Securities.

D
Daniel Joseph Moore
Director of Research

On free cash flow, about a $4 million delta between adjusted and actual in the quarter. Just as we look out to the full year, Jay, what other sort of nonrecurrings might there be in the adjusted guide versus expectations for actual free cash flow for de-levering?

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

In the adjusted guide, there really isn't any onetime items within our guidance. What you see within are scheduled for adjustment, really what we're just adjusting out is any incremental acquisition integration costs we occur. That's really the only thing that's in that, but other than that, there's no onetime items within our guidance like the things we might have had in last year, like the working capital benefit we saw at the end of the year or some other income benefits like we saw in this quarter.

D
Daniel Joseph Moore
Director of Research

You mentioned e-commerce opportunity, kind of early days of the opportunity here in Q2. Any color at this stage in terms of regions where you're rolling out and kind of the structure of that relationship?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes. I won't reference who it is, but everybody has a good idea. We're working on a small number of zip codes. Frankly, it's in the Southeast United States. We're happy with the current state of the economics, but we want to get through the test and make sure that all the parts and pieces work together. There is some IT investment required so that we can communicate with the online retailer, and that's what's behind the test. The economics are solid.

D
Daniel Joseph Moore
Director of Research

More to come, I'm sure.

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes, absolutely more to come. But remember, it's the sixth or seventh way we get new customers, right? So it's the way we'll use our sales reps for commercial, the booth program, other online initiatives. This is another way for us to drive organic growth.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Faiza Alwy from Deustche Bank.

F
Faiza Alwy
Research Analyst

I just wanted to talk about the e-commerce opportunity again. I know you said you'll give us more color later, and you just mentioned there are some incremental costs. Could you talk about -- dimensionalize those costs for us and perhaps discuss the timing of those costs?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes. They're in our run rate costs, so it's incremental. It's just worth to make the connection between us and them with existing headcount, technologies, and make sure we can effectively communicate. But this is just about making sure that those pieces work together with the e-commerce provider and that we deliver on the commitments to the customer service experience as those customers are on board. And that's really what the test is, to make sure that all the component parts are aligned and working appropriately before we announce an expansion. But again, we're happy with the economics, and we're happy with the current state. We expect to get started sometime in the second quarter.

F
Faiza Alwy
Research Analyst

And then, I know you haven't provided an EBITDA guidance for the year publicly, so I was wondering why there is a little bit of hesitancy to do that and if you're maybe more willing to give us an update on how you're thinking about EBITDA for the year?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes. We have not historically given EBITDA guidance, and right now our position is we'll continue to give revenue and free cash flow guidance. I've certainly gotten a lot of input about providing EBITDA guidance. I'm not prepared to change our position at this point in time in terms of that guidance.

J
Jay Wells
Chief Financial & Administrative Officer

Yes. I mean, keep in mind, we have given our free cash flow guidance of $150 million-plus. We have given CapEx guidance of $120 million. Cash taxes will probably be about $5 million. Interest will be about $70 million. And we should see about $5 million to $10 million of working capital benefits. And those are the items we've talked about. And we currently don't give guidance, but I think that is a significant amount of guidance that we've given, and triangulation is doable.

Operator

And our final question today comes from the line of Amit Sharma from BMO.

A
Amit Sharma
Analyst

Thank you so much for taking the follow-up. Jay, just wanted to follow up on the last thing you said. Clearly, there is enough to bridge for full year EBITDA, right? But I think what we are seeing in the market today, even small deviation on EBITDA line on a quarterly basis leads to this type of stock.So keeping that in mind, can you just look at the second quarter and see if there are any factors that we consider as we model for second quarter and third quarter? Like first quarter, FX showed up, higher temporary operating costs showed up. Are there any of those things that we should be considering as we model the quarters?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Well, you have the tail-down -- FX is FX, right? We know it was higher in the first quarter. It'll still probably be higher than we anticipate. We have the existing headwind, as previously communicated, on coffee. We're -- referenced labor, so we're working hard to mitigate that, as we shared. So those are really the 3 drivers.We're confident in the top line. We're confident in the coffee volume. But those are the 3 areas that we think about as we enter the second quarter.

A
Amit Sharma
Analyst

And just on that, Tom, the RBS top line, I don’t know, organic basis on a pretty good trajectory, you think that can continue?

T
Thomas J. Harrington
CEO & Director

Yes. I see no reason for that to be different in Q2 than Q1, frankly. And we're quite pleased with the component. The only difference is Crystal Rock is no longer a cycle, so we'll talk about excluding Mountain Valley only. But we think we're going to continue to have good organic growth, better than that 2% to 3% based on what happened in this quarter.

A
Amit Sharma
Analyst

That makes sense. Thank you so much.

Operator

I'll now turn the call over to our presenters for closing remarks.

J
Jarrod Langhans

Thank you all for joining us today.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.