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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2024-Q1

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Operator

Good morning everyone. Welcome to Tecsys First Quarter Fiscal Year 2024 Results Conference Call. Please note that the complete first quarter report, including MD&A and financial statements were filed on SEDAR+ aftermarket close yesterday. All dollar amounts are expressed in Canadian currency and are prepared in accordance with International Financial Reporting Standards.

Some of the statements in this conference call, including the question-and-answer period, may include forward-looking statements that are based on management's beliefs and assumptions. Actual results may differ materially from such statements. I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded on Friday, September 8, 2024 (ph) at 08:30 Eastern Time.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Peter Brereton, Chief Executive Officer at Tecsys. Please go ahead.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Joining me today is Mark Bentler, our Chief Financial Officer. We appreciate you joining us for today's call. As many of you saw in our results posted yesterday, our company began fiscal ‘24 with another solid quarter led by record revenue and strong fundamentals, with 44% growth in SaaS revenue. We're seeing the results of our investments over the last several quarters in business development and R&D. We believe our continued momentum is a testament to our clarity of vision, sustained investment in technology and obsession with our customer success.

Our primary mission remains unchanged to empower supply chain users to perform their tasks efficiently and effectively. Done right, (ph) organizations running these supply chains are able to operate more efficiently, mitigate risk, adapt to market demands, differentiate themselves from competition and seize opportunities to grow. Our role at Tecsys is to provide the right combination of software, services, and expertise to meet those business objectives, and that's what we have been doing.

We have consistently demonstrated our ability as a technology partner to provide solutions that meet and exceed customer expectations. Much of this will be on full display in a couple of weeks, where we will be hosting the 2023 Tecsys User Conference, our first since the pandemic. With a high level of enthusiasm, we have higher registration numbers than any event in our 40 year history. We've been laying the groundwork for this event over the last few months and have been promoting a remarkable lineup of customers and strategic partners to help strengthen our base and put the spotlight on the business successes experienced by them.

From Werner Electric's journey of innovation and AI-driven augmented cluster building to insights at St. Luke's Health Systems, speaking about their visionary consolidated pharmacy service center. From Intermountain Health and Baylor Scott & White Health to [indiscernible] North America sharing their supply chain management stories. We are confident that the successes of our customers will create new market opportunities. And with AWS, Locus Robotics, Zebra Technologies, RiseNow and other partners, we have more partner representation than any other conference in our history as well, an endorsement of our strengthening global alliances ecosystem. We look forward to hosting an amazing user conference, where we have the opportunity to showcase innovation, best practices and knowledge sharing.

Turning back to the results. I'd like to take a moment to summarize the key events of the first quarter of fiscal 2024 and results of operations. Mark will then walk us through the financial results in more detail. And finally, I'll comment on our outlook, followed by Q&A.

Our company began fiscal ‘24 with sustained growth underscored by that 44% year-over-year SaaS revenue growth, a 23% increase in total revenue and a healthy RPO, up 36% over the same time last year. We added new logos across verticals and geographies. including two new healthcare networks in the quarter, one of which was in Canada. We also signed a new healthcare network in August, just after the quarter end. We again closed solid base business, including significant expansions across verticals and renewals that extended commitments from existing customers.

Our SaaS bookings of $1.9 million in the quarter were down compared to the same quarter last year. Q1 of last fiscal year was an unusual comp with pent up demand releasing post-COVID and an exceptionally large order in that quarter as well. Q1 of this fiscal year was a more normal Q1 with summer vacation impact. We remain encouraged by continued solid new pipeline creation and overall market activity. So as we close out another successful quarter, we're pleased that we continue to capitalize on the opportunities in front of us.

We continue to add new hospital networks and global brands to our repertoire of clients, and we enjoy an expanding pipeline of new SaaS opportunities, expansions and conversions. We see a solid path for shareholder value creation. As we continue to invest in the solutions we sell. And in the manner in which we sell them, Tecsys is proving to be among the best cloud-based solutions available in the markets we serve. And we have the people, the partners, the products and the plan to provide what the market demands.

Mark will now provide further details on our first quarter financial results, as well as financial guidance on several key metrics.

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Thank you, Peter. We're pleased with strong performance in our first quarter ended July 31, 2023. We had yet another record in total -- record quarter in total revenue at $42 million, that's 23% higher than $34.2 million reported for the same period last year.

As many of you know, a significant portion of our revenue, in fact, about 73% this quarter is denominated in U.S. dollars. As a result, movements in currency exchange rates have an impact on our reported revenue and growth. FX rates including the impact of hedging had a positive $1.5 million impact on revenue in the quarter compared to the same quarter last year.

On a constant currency basis, total revenue growth was 17% in Q1 of fiscal '24 compared to the same quarter last year. Total revenue, excluding hardware, increased 16% compared to the same period last year, or 11% on a constant currency basis. We continue to experience strong and steady revenue streams underpinned by a 44% increase in SaaS revenue up from $8 million in Q1 of fiscal '23 to $11.5 million in Q1 of fiscal '24.

On a constant currency basis, SaaS revenue was up approximately 38% compared to the same quarter last year. SaaS remaining performance obligation or SaaS RPO was $139.4 million at the end of Q1 fiscal '24, that's up 36% from $102.5 million at the same time last year. On a constant currency basis, SaaS growth was 33%.

Maintenance and support revenue for the three months ended July 31, 2023 was $8.3 million that was flat compared to the same quarter last year or down about 4% on a constant currency basis. Maintenance and support revenue generally follows the trend of license revenue and we expect that as current customers migrate to our SaaS offering, maintenance and support revenue will decline over time.

Professional services revenue for the quarter was $14.9 million, that was up 9% from $13.6 million reported for the same quarter last year, were up 5% on a constant currency basis. As we noted in the last few quarters, we're starting to see the impact of our transition to SaaS ultimately have on our professional services revenue line. That is, we're seeing a continued reduction in custom development work as customers opt for a more out of the box approach to platform implementations.

We're also continuing to experience the increased collaboration of our partner ecosystem in helping to implement our suite of solutions. While we expect that over time, these factors will continue to moderate our professional services revenue growth. We had another solid quarter of professional services bookings, which I'll speak to in a moment.

As we disclosed in our published MD&A, we expect total services revenue, so that's combined SaaS, maintenance, support, as well as professional services, ranging between $34.5 million and $35.5 million per quarter in the short term. Hardware revenue in Q1 fiscal ’24 was $6.8 million, up 77% compared to the same period last year.

As a reminder, we sell primarily third-party hardware to our customers for warehouse operations and in-hospital point of use, storage and tracking. While our hardware revenue can tend to be uneven, it is a key component of our market offering and thereby supports our recurring revenue business. Like last quarter, our hardware backlog remained strong, driven primarily by hospital network point of use orders.

Turning now to bookings. SaaS bookings are reported on an annual recurring revenue basis and as Peter mentioned, SaaS bookings were $1.9 million in the quarter, which is down 50% compared to $3.9 million in the first quarter of last year. Professional services bookings were $13.8 million in the quarter, that's up 42% compared to $9.7 million in the same quarter last year. Professional services backlog was a robust $40.2 million at July 31, 2023, that's up 31% from the same time last year.

For the first quarter, total gross profit was $19.5 million, that's up 32% compared to $14.8 million in Q1 of last year, and that's led by higher gross profit contribution from SaaS, maintenance, support and professional services. As a percentage of revenue, total gross margin was 46% in the quarter compared to 43% for the same period last year. Combined SaaS, maintenance and support and professional services gross profit margin for the three months ended July 31, 2023 was 50% compared to 46% in the same period in fiscal 2023. The main component of the increase in this gross profit margin was SaaS margin expansion. There was also some tailwind here from FX.

Switching now to our expenses for the quarter. Operating expenses increased to $17.7 million, that's higher by $3.1 million or 21% compared to $14.7 million in Q1 of fiscal '23. The increase was primarily the result of higher research and development costs, as well as higher sales and marketing costs.

Looking ahead to Q2 of fiscal 2024, we expect sales and marketing cost to temporarily increase, primarily due to added marketing program investment, including costs related to our user conference, which as Peter mentioned, is in September. We also expect that research and development costs will increase slightly in Q2, resulting from investment in our platform and product offering and the normal impact of our annual salary increase cycle.

Net profit for the quarter was $1.2 million or $0.08 per fully diluted share, compared to $40,000 or zero per fully diluted share in the same period last year. Compared to the same period last year, net profit was positively impacted by the higher contribution from SaaS and associated higher gross profit and favorable foreign exchange.

Adjusted EBITDA was $3.2 million in Q1 of fiscal '24 compared to $1.5 million last year. Net profit and adjusted EBITDA were both positively impacted by favorable foreign exchange of approximately $1.2 million compared to the same period last year. We ended fiscal 2024 with a solid balance sheet position. We had cash and short-term investments of $31.9 million and no debt. Q1 net cash used in operations was $6.9 million, primarily the result of normal seasonal working capital changes in that quarter.

Finally, with respect to financial guidance, with our growing SaaS revenue driving up recurring revenue, we have greater visibility into future revenue. As a result, recall that last quarter for the first time we provided financial guidance. We would like to reiterate that guidance for total revenue growth in fiscal '24 in a range of between 10% and 15%. Total SaaS revenue growth for fiscal '24 in a range between 35% and 37%. And in terms of profitability, we're reiterating financial guidance for adjusted EBITDA margin in fiscal ‘24, up 6%, and the fiscal '24 adjusted EBITDA margin in a range between 8% and 9%.

I'll now turn the call back to Peter to provide some outlook comments.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Thanks, Mark. Tecsys stable growth continues through the first quarter of fiscal 2024 with a strong balance sheet and a robust backlog and sales pipeline. We are seeing widespread buyer intent to cross target markets, solid opportunity cycles and a highly capable sales team with the tools and talent to capitalize on a market that is ready to invest in new technology.

We continue to solidify our leadership position in the healthcare market supported by a great partner network and rising adoption of the clinically integrated supply chain and consolidated service center model. The upcoming November 2023 compliance deadline for the U.S. Drug Supply Chain Security Act provides a favorable backdrop for our consolidated pharmacy inventory management solution.

With customer proof points from organizations like Parkview Health and St. Luke's Health System were well-positioned to be the preferred vendor to support this developing best practice. Our expanding -- our expanded healthcare sector offering and growing footprint gives us confidence that the healthcare sector will continue to serve as an important revenue stream (ph) for us.

Our converting distribution business continues to represent a massive market opportunity. We continue to hone our sweet spot there and carve out our share of that pie with rising market indicators driven by fundamental change to the supply chain industry. changes spurred by aging legacy systems, digital adoption and a realization that heightened consumer expectations are here to stay.

So, in summary, I want to remind analysts and investors of some key themes for fiscal 2024 and beyond. First, a sustained commitment to our expanding SaaS revenue model, which will drive changes in the way we deploy solutions and delight customers. Secondly, as continued strategic partnership approach characterized by deeper and stronger alliances. This will help us tap into new opportunities and fuels our scalability around the world.

Third, an emphasis on advancing and deepening our healthcare vertical covering -- our healthcare vertical covering both med-surge and pharma. We continue to solidify our position as the go-to-provider for healthcare supply chain solutions. Lastly, a continuous evolution of our distribution and omni-channel business platform that takes advantage of innovative technologies and the power of data.

And as a final point, I'd just like to stress across our markets that we will place emphasis on customer success. We have long stood by the philosophy of customers for light. A big part of that formula is to deliver value quickly, stay connected and then expand on the value delivered.

With that, we will open the call up for questions. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Amr Ezzat with Industrial Alliance. Please proceed.

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Unidentified Participant

Good morning. It’s Andre on behalf of Amr. Thank you for taking our questions. You're tracking above your guidance for top line and SaaS growth. Last quarter, you also had strong momentum. Just wondering, what's driving the outperformance relative to your initial guidance and do you foresee this momentum continuing?

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Peter Brereton
CEO

You want to take that one, Mark?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Thanks for the question. I mean, I think our top line revenue was really strong and when we provided the guideposts there for total revenue, we were thinking about a full year and that's the guidance we provided. I think the thing you have to watch pretty carefully in our numbers is that, that hardware number in our P&L, which can move around quite a bit. And we had a pretty robust hardware quarter.

This quarter, we also have a pretty good backlog, but if you look across last year, our hardware quarters range from $3.8 million to $6.9 million, so there's quite a bit of movement that can happen in there. So I think that, that provides a little color around that 10% to 15% guidance range that we provided and are sticking with for right now.

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Unidentified Participant

Got it. Thanks. And how much are you budgeting for your user conference later this month?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. I mean, that's we -- we haven't really disclosed that number, but I mean, in really rough orders of magnitude, that's roughly a $0.5 million, $0.5 million event for us.

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Unidentified Participant

Got it. Thanks. And one more for me. The last couple of calls, you noted that you didn't see many opportunities for inorganic growth due to rich pricing. Just wondering how that has evolved since the last call?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. There's no real change there. I mean, we continue to poke around and look at what's out there, but we have not, our focus at this point is on the organic side.

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Unidentified Participant

Thank you. I’ll pass the line.

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Thank you.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Thanks for the questions.

Operator

The next question comes from Gavin Fairweather with Cormark Securities. Please proceed.

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Gavin Fairweather
Cormark Securities

Hey. Good morning. Maybe just a quickie for Mark to start. Just looks like the CAD strengthened a little bit in the quarter. Can you just discuss the impact that FX had on ARR growth this quarter?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. The headline growth there, I mean, I think we, if you think about it, sequentially, we moved from like a 132 level last quarter to a 136 level. So I think there was about maybe 3 percentage points to 4 percentage points of tail in there.

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Gavin Fairweather
Cormark Securities

Got it. And then maybe for Peter. Just can we dig it a little bit deeper into the healthcare sales environment? How would you kind of describe buyer intent, obviously, saw a couple of new healthcare networks join in one subsequent quarter, but I guess when you look into the pipeline, how are you thinking about the number of IDNs and how are they moving and how are you thinking about your ability to increase the pace of IDN adds?

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Yeah. I mean, we're sort of waiting to see an actually fully pickup speed. It seems to be accelerating that team is, probably round numbers. That team is probably 30% larger. The sales team is right 30% larger than it was this time last year and yet they are very busy. The total pipeline sales in health care is up, measured by sort of SaaS -- potential SaaS revenue is up, over 50% from this time last year. So we're seeing a lot of excellent activity.

At the same time, we are seeing -- frankly, it seems like half of the management teams we were trying to close deals with -- we're in Europe for a vacation this summer. So it's, there everything's now returning as we get into September and things seem to be picking up speed. So we'll have to see how the year works out. But if I look at the sort of what we see on the dashboard, great sales team, significantly larger than it was last year in a pipeline up by, more than 50%. So we're feeling pretty bullish about the outlook in healthcare. That's for sure.

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Gavin Fairweather
Cormark Securities

Okay. Good to hear. I mean, maybe some of that will turn into a tailwind in the accordance ahead (ph) here. Maybe, just on maintenance, been holding pretty steady. I keep expecting a bit of a deceleration. Maybe you can update us on, the plan pace of migrations and how those conversations are going. I mean, you talk about maintenance kind of starting to moderate in the years ahead, but it seems to be holding studies. Maybe just unpack that a bit for us.

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Mark Bentler
CFO

I think, the conversions from on-prem to SaaS, they do continue. And if you look at our pipeline there, the activity there, it's actually -- the pipeline is actually ahead of where we expected it to be right now in terms of addition -- additive conversion opportunities. But you raise a good point, like, we're expecting that number to go down and it doesn't. Our retention rates are super high. In fact, they tick -- we measure those LTM and they ticked up to like 97% gross retention in this last 12 month period ended, July 31, 2023. So really solid retention is helping, support that number a bit.

The other thing is, some of our other businesses, in particular, that hardware business and that proprietary technology business that we do. It does attach some maintenance and support to that business. And so that's conspiring also along with price increases and strong levels of retention to kind of moderate the decline there. But we do see that conversion pipe building and expect that, that it's going to continue to head down rather than out that total maintenance and support line.

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Gavin Fairweather
Cormark Securities

Got it. And then maybe lastly, before I requeue, just on SaaS gross margins, you provide that kind of illustrative walk over the next two years on kind of services gross margins and SaaS gross margins. I'm curious how the back end optimization work is progressing in that deck. You kind of have assumptions around 75% incremental gross margin on SaaS. I'm curious if that kind of incorporates some of efforts you're making on the back end, and if there's also an opportunity to kind of improve the existing SaaS base as well?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. It does incorporate that, but I mean, I think the more we scale there and the more we scratch and invest there, the more efficient we become So we're making -- we continue to make progress on the key metrics in there for us, our public cloud infrastructure costs as a percentage of revenue. We continue to make progress there, that's with, with platform optimization and overall infrastructure efficiency, how we set up the platform and utilize public cloud infrastructure. So we continue to make progress there.

And the other vectors are, the other main vectors are cloud operations, costs and our ability to execute there. So we measure that metric as internally as cloud operation costs, X public cloud infrastructure costs and monitor that as a percentage of revenue. And we see that still doing interesting things as well as we scale and continue to leverage our technology, our platform and external technologies that we use to monitor, et cetera., that help us manage that metric. So, I think there's more goodness to continue to squeeze out of that margin as we move forward and continue to scale.

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Gavin Fairweather
Cormark Securities

Great. I’ll pass the line. Thank you.

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Thanks.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Many thanks.

Operator

Our next question comes from John Shao with National Bank. Please proceed.

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John Shao
National Bank

Good morning, guys and thanks for taking my questions. I also have a question on gross margins. So you guys definitely have a decent margin expansion this quarter driven by the SaaS business. So from a modeling perspective, is this improvement permanent? And also how we should think -- how should we think about the margin profile in future quarters?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. I mean, I think we -- I would direct you to our investor deck there, John, and we provided some kind of projection numbers, I hesitate to call them forecast, but sort of projection numbers based upon some assumptions. And we saw -- we started publishing those a couple of quarters ago. We outperformed what we expected there in Q4, slightly. And I would say, right now, we're tracking with our expectations and I would leave it at that.

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John Shao
National Bank

Okay. Thanks. And in terms of ARR, how should we read into the Q1 number given it's just sequentially flat, is also because of the timing of deal lumpiness?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. I mean, the ARR number being sequentially flat. I think we had -- we have that -- one that, the 1.9 million SaaS bookings number, which was not a fantastic quarter. So that didn't drive up that ARR as much as it otherwise would have increased. So I think that's probably the main driver for the sequential flatness there.

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John Shao
National Bank

Okay. Thanks. Last question is to Peter. So Peter, you mentioned your sales team is 30% larger than compared to last year. So my question is around your plan to continue to grow the headcount for the rest of the year?

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Yeah. I was specifically, first of all, I was specifically referring to the health care side of the sales team. So that, that's where the bulk of the growth has gone, and that's where we've seen this potential increase in the size of that team. We do plan to continue to invest in the team. I mean, when you look at our LTV to CAC numbers, general guidance in sort of best practices in the SaaS world. If your LTV to CAC is above 3, you should be pouring more money into sales and marketing. And, if you look at our general trend over the last, four quarters or eight quarters or whatever you -- whatever time frame you want to pick, we're well above that number. So we continue to, invest more in sales and marketing. You'll continue to see that number rise.

We limit our investment there largely just to manage productivity. There is a point to which you grow that organization too quickly, and you can actually end up with declining sales results to do. Just too many new people, not enough sort of in-depth knowledge of the marketplace, you start blowing opportunities and so on. So with that, the practical considerations of growing an excellent sales team are what limit the investment there because the underlying financial metrics that we track and the KPIs we track tell us that we should be continuing to expand that team quite rapidly.

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Hey, John. [Multiple Speakers]

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John Shao
National Bank

Okay. Thank you. I’ll pass the line.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Yeah, John. Just going back going back to your last question about ARR, I failed to mention, but I should have -- the FX impact, the sequential FX impact from the end of Q4 to the end of Q1 was actually a negative drag on that ARR number. So that kind of offset the gains of the increased narrow from the SaaS bookings.

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John Shao
National Bank

Okay. Thanks, Peter. That make sense.

Operator

Thank you. Our next comes from Suthan Sukumar with Stifel. Please proceed.

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Unidentified Participant

Hi. Daniel on for Suthan today. Good morning, Peter and Mark. My first question here is on your EBITDA beat this quarter. Can you speak to what drove to be at -- was it, due to the pace of timing of growth investments or are you seeing early leverage benefits in the business?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Daniel, can you repeat that question? I didn't quite hear the beginning of kind of broke up a little bit from me at the beginning.

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Unidentified Participant

Yeah. Sure. On your EBITDA beat (ph) this quarter, can you speak to what drove the beat? Was it due to the pace or timing of growth investments?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. I mean, we -- our OpEx was up, pretty significantly in the quarter, but the big contribution -- the big change was a contribution, the contribution margin in the quarter which was really, really solid, as we mentioned, driven mostly by SaaS expansion. But also with a little bit of FX tailwind in that number.

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Unidentified Participant

Okay. That was good. On professional services revenues, growth appears to be quite healthy again this quarter. Is there anything specific to call out? And can you speak to how much partner engagement there was during the quarter?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah, I mean, I think the thing to call out there, Daniel is our backlog heading into this quarter was very large. We did actually quite a bit of bookings in the quarter as well. So it continues to be over $40 million of backlog, which for us historically is still a very robust, a very robust number. So we think that probably bodes pretty well for the upcoming quarters.

In terms of partner engagement and partner involvement, I guess Peter mentioned, we've got a whole, we've got just a great stuff happening on that front. We continue to add interested SI partners. They're more and more involved in our deals. They're more and more involved even on the front end, on opportunities, and that gang is getting, yeah, it's getting -- the names that are in that group are getting bigger and the participation is getting more fulsome. So we're pretty excited about what's happening there.

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Unidentified Participant

That's good to hear. Now just to quickly recap in case I missed it, I think you mentioned that you guys, one, two additional IDNs wins this quarter. What are your expectations for the year? Is it still around 12?

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Peter Brereton
CEO

That's good question. We debate that all the time. I mean, we're seeing -- we are seeing [indiscernible] larger opportunities. At the same time, we are seeing quite a large number of opportunities. Average deal size continues to sort of slowly increase. So where that number will end, it's hard to call. We certainly are investing in the sales organization, and structuring the sales organization to continue to drive that number up, and we would like to see us get in the 12-ish range for the year and, continuing our mark up. Our plan is still to get to the point where we can add, 20 networks a year, which we'd like to get to within a couple of years. But, we're not -- that's not a firm forecast. That's just what we're trying to accomplish.

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Unidentified Participant

Okay. Last one for me. Can you just update us on the current demand environment for the complex distribution side? And have you seen any changes in urgency from a customer at this quarter?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

No, there was really a change in urge see. We are seeing deals starting to flow on that side. We've got, -- I think we'll see more signed deals probably in this quarter on that side. We'll -- we did see some activity in the first quarter on that side. So it seems like that marketplace is starting to get out of panic mode. The inventory is flowing. The ports are wide open. Factories are open, the things are just generally returning to normal.

As they return to normal, we're kind of back to where we were in 2019, which is that whole sector realizing that they're running platforms that were implemented in time for Y2K. And it's, they're not they're not really designed for today's world at all. So we are seeing action on that side. And I think, as I think I said in the spring, we kind of expected that it would be sometime this fall that the deal flow would actually begin and I think we're still tracking to that.

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Unidentified Participant

Thanks for taking my questions. I’ll pass the line.

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Great. Thank you.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Stephen Lee with Raymond James. Please proceed.

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Steven Lee
Raymond James

Thanks. Hey, guys. I may have missed it, but the SaaS growth of 40%. Did you say how much came from the current customers and how much from new logos?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. We didn't say that, but in the quarter, the bigger driver there this quarter was expansion, expansion business.

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Steven Lee
Raymond James

Okay. That's fine. And also on your bookings, what would be the split between health care and complex?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. I don't -- we didn't. We didn't really disclose that one either, Steven. But it would have been, actually, it would have been tipped, it would have been, it was actually pretty even because the expansion deals had included some nice complex distribution, some nice complex distribution customers. So those, I think it would have been, it would, in fact, it was slightly tipped towards health care, but complex was definitely contributing to that one as well, but slightly more than 50% healthcare.

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Steven Lee
Raymond James

Okay. Got it. And then, and when you -- when we're talking about bookings here, it applies to both ARR and TS, right, Mark?

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Mark Bentler
CFO

No, I'm talking -- I'm talking SaaS.

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Steven Lee
Raymond James

Oh, you're talking SaaS, okay. Got it. Okay. And then just Peter, your comment earlier, I heard you say your total pipeline in health care is up 50% but then the number of IDNs you one versus two (ph). Does that mean conversion is very lumpy? Can you talk about conversion rates?

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Yeah. I mean, conversion rates are not only lumpy. There's -- in health care, we don't have that much conversion left to do. I mean, most of the -- maybe not most, but I mean, a significant portion I'm trying to think now off-the-top of my head, but Mark, we're probably at this point where, what, 75% of our health care clients are already on SaaS.

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. Even more.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Something like that, even more. So there's not that much conversion left to do there. What you're mainly seeing there is that the expansion in existing SaaS hospital clients is continuing to be quite strong. So, when we look at our -- when we look at our pipeline, our pipeline includes some very significant opportunities, but that are from existing customers. So they don't become, they don't show up as new customer wins in the quarter, but they might still show up as very substantial additional SaaS bookings in the quarter. And, I mean, to me, it just underscores the value of building out the SaaS customer basis. You see that, sort of, for one of these networks becomes a great opportunity in and of itself.

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Steven Lee
Raymond James

Right. And -- but when we think of significant opportunities with existing customers, is the cycle quicker, shorter?

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Yeah. For sure it is. For sure it is. I mean, we already have a relationship. We've already got trust built up. They've already got a good understanding of our platform and how to use it and how to deploy it. They've usually built up an internal team that knows how to sort of, support our platform internally from an end user standpoint. So it's definitely quicker. I mean, there's agreements. I'm just thinking, like, in Q1, for instance, we signed a fairly substantial expansion and extension of contract, SaaS contract and that will process to less than 90 days.

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Steven Lee
Raymond James

Got it. And last one for me. And again, I probably missed it, but did you say how much is your partner influence deals in the quarter? Thanks.

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Mark Bentler
CFO

Yeah. What we did -- what we did disclose there, Steve, is the percentage of our pipeline that that's partner influenced at the end of the quarter and that number was 30%.

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Steven Lee
Raymond James

30%, perfect. Thanks, guys.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

All right. Thank you.

M
Mark Bentler
CFO

Thanks for the questions.

Operator

Gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time.

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Peter Brereton
CEO

Okay. Well, thank you everyone for joining us. And, as usual, if you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to Mark or I, and we will talk to you at the end of Q2. Thanks again for your time and bye for now.

Operator

That does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and ask that you please disconnect your line. Have a great day, everyone.