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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2019-Q4

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Operator

Thank you all for joining us this morning. Before I turn the call over, I need to advise that certain statements made during this call today may contain forward-looking information, and actual results may differ from the conclusions or projections in that forward-looking information, which include, but are not limited to, statements with respect to the estimation of mineral reserves and resources, the timing and amount of estimated future production, cost of production, capital expenditures, future metal prices and the cost of timing and the development of new projects. For a complete discussion of the risks, uncertainties and factors which may lead to actual financial results and performance being different from the estimates contained in the forward-looking statements, please refer to Yamana's press release issued yesterday announcing fourth quarter 2019 results as well as the management's discussion and analysis for the same period and other regulatory filings in Canada and the United States.I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay today at 12:00 p.m. Eastern Time. Replay information and the presentation slides accompanying this conference call and webcast are available on Yamana's website at yamana.com.I'll now turn the call over to Mr. Daniel Racine, President and Chief Executive Officer.

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Thank you, operator, thank you all for joining us, and welcome to our fourth quarter and year-end conference call. With me on the call today is Jason LeBlanc, our CFO. Other members of our great management team are also in the room and will be available for the Q&A portion of the call.2019 was, by any measure, a very strong year for Yamana. Production exceeded guidance, cash flow increased, debt declined, reserves grew, projects advanced, and Yamana was one of the top-performing stock in its peer group. These are just some of the highlights of the year, which I'll cover in greater detail but first look at our health and safety performance.Our total recordable injury frequency rate in 2019 fell to 0.57, a 5% decrease from 2018 and a 24% decrease over the past 3 years. El Peñón, I'm pleased to inform you, completed its second straight year without a lost time injury, marking 8.9 million work hour without a lost time incident. Yamana did not have any material environmental or community incident for the fourth consecutive year.Turning to our production results. We exceeded 2019 guidance for both gold and silver, with silver significantly outperforming its guidance. GEO production also exceeded guidance at 1.024 million versus 1.01 million. Cash costs of $667 per GEO and all-in sustaining cost of $978 were in line with guidance after the inclusion of adjustment noted during the year. Jason will discuss costs in greater detail during his remarks.Total debt decreased in 2019 by $711 million, and we nearly halved our net debt to $889 million, significantly strengthening our balance sheet and financial flexibility. And with greater financial flexibility, good things happen. One of those things was the 25% increase to our annual dividend announced in Q4. We now have cumulatively increased our annual dividend by 150% to $0.05 per share from $0.02 per share in less than 8 months.In September, we announced the discovery of East Gouldie, a new mineralized zone at Canadian Malartic. We said that drilling result indicate that Gouldie and East Malartic zone are converging at depth, increasing our confidence in the economic of the underground mineral resources at Canadian Malartic. The joint Yamana-Agnico Eagle partnership that owns and operate the mine is evaluating scenarios to optimize the project, which includes discussion with royalty holders and other stakeholders that enhance the economic of the project. Given Yamana robust pipeline of development project, we do not currently anticipate approving the project for development unless this discussion are successful and the project economic are improved.In addition to Canadian Malartic, we issued positive exploration update for El Peñón, Cerro Moro, Minera Florida and Jacobina in the second half of 2019. We also advanced phase 1 of the Jacobina optimization and we expect a prefeasibility study to be complete in Q1 that evaluates economic scheduling and expansion scenario for Phase 2. We increased mineral resources on a consolidated basis, with inferred mineral resources showing a substantial 27% increase. Jacobina was a standout in this regard, increasing mineral reserve by 19% from year-end 2018. I'll talk more about reserves in a moment.Another positive this past year was the progress on Agua Rica. Last March, we signed an integration agreement with Glencore and Newmont, under which Agua Rica would be developed and operated using the infrastructure and facilities of the Alumbrera mine. The agreement significantly derisked development with reducing the product complexity and environmental footprint. In July, we announced positive prefeasibility study result for the project that underscore Agua Rica as one of the longest life, lowest capital intensity copper project in the world. A feasibility study is expected to be completed by year-end or early 2021. We continue to advance studies to further enhance project economics.Finally, we completed the sale of Chapada mine in July, receiving upfront cash consideration of $800 million, in addition to other consideration.This next slide cover our fourth quarter highlights. I want to walk you through all the numbers, but I do want to highlight cash and liquidity. Our cash balances climbed by 59% to $158.8 million from $99.9 million at the end of Q3. This is yet another parameter of our improved financial flexibility and strong free cash flow, which climbed to $73.4 million in our latest quarter before dividend and debt repayment, up from $29 million in the third quarter. With that flexibility, we are not only able to do things like increase our dividend, we can also continue to reduce our net debt, which we did by nearly $60 million in Q4.This slide shows our Q4 production and costs. Jason will discuss costs in greater detail during his remarks.Looking at production. Jacobina posted an all-time high quarterly and full year production of 41,774 ounces and 159,499 ounces, respectively. Full year production was also well above our upwardly revised guidance from 152,000 ounces. The success of this operation is a testament to what can be done with planning, patience and great people, and there is more to come.Phase 1 of the expansion is on track for completion in mid-2020. This will bring total throughput to a stable and sustainable 6,500 tonnes per day. Average throughput in the fourth quarter was approximately 6,200 tonnes per day. The increase in mineral reserve that I discussed earlier will support phase 1 throughput but also support the potential for phase -- the second phase of the expansion. This phase calls for production to increase to 200,000 ounces per year at 7,500 tonnes per day and 225,000 ounces at 8,500 tonnes per day. A prefeasibility study is expected to be completed in the current quarter.El Peñón reported its highest quarterly and yearly production since we completed the rightsizing 3 years ago. Gold production in the quarter was 48,131 ounces, with full year production of 159,515 ounces. As with Jacobina, additional mine development has greatly improved production flexibility and the expectation for 2020 is to process ore -- the processed ore will primarily be from runoff of mine with reliance on low-grade stockpile as supplemental ore to the mill.Canadian Malartic produced 85,000 ounces on a 50% basis during the quarter and 334,596 ounces for the full year, in line with budget. The Canadian Malartic expansion project continues to advance as expected, with a modest contribution from Barnat of 3,137 ounces during the fourth quarter.Minera Florida had its strongest quarterly performance of the year in Q4, highlighted by an outstanding month of December, during which it produced 8,200 ounces of gold. Quarter-on-quarter, throughput increased as did grade and mechanical availability. We are very pleased with the mine performance, and we are confident that this is a sign of things to come.Cerro Moro produced 26,658 (sic) [ 26,568 ] ounces of gold in the quarter and 1.6 million ounces of silver. The full year production was 120,802 ounces of gold, with silver production coming above plan at 6.32 million ounces. While the strong silver production had a positive impact on GEO production, this was partially offset by higher GEO ratio caused by outperformance of gold versus silver. We expect silver to continue to be a more meaningful contributor to GEO in 2020.Taking a look at our gold mineral reserve. We replaced the depletion in 2019, exiting the year with 7.86 million ounces of mineral reserve compared to 7.84 million ounces at the end of 2018. Measured and indicated mineral gold resources were also increased year-over-year to 7.69 million ounces from 12.49 million ounces.Inferred gold mineral resources increased by 27% to 12.07 million ounces from 9.53 million ounces. As you can see also, Canadian Malartic was a big contributor.Silver mineral reserves ended the year at 63.82 million ounces. Measured and indicated came at 44.63 million ounces, up 22 million -- 22% from 2019, while inferred silver came at 45.42 million ounces.The gold and silver resources and reserves show our success in exploration. The increase in gold and silver show our success in exploration. At Canadian Malartic, with the discovery of East Gouldie and East Malartic below 1,000 meters, we increased the mine inferred mineral resources by 111% in 2019. On a 50% basis, East Gouldie added 12.8 million tonnes at 3.34 grams per tonne for 1.37 million ounces. The zone continues to be open in all directions. With the resource defined to date, the potential underground is impressive. But like I mentioned before, the different scenarios need to be optimized, and the partnership do not anticipate approving the project for development under the current economic results.Last year, the El Peñón mine replaced gold and silver mineral reserves above and beyond depletion by 15% and 21%, respectively. It was the third straight year that El Peñón increased mineral reserves for both metal well beyond depletion. The operation gold measured and indicated mineral resources increased by 66% from year-end 2018, with silver rose 70%. We recently indicated the new structural interpretation of faulting in the Deep Orito vein at El Peñón is helping to define new high-grade mineralization, with potential to increase mine life. I hope the message is clear: El Peñón to continue to show a remarkable ability to grow mineral resource -- reserve beyond depletion, and we are confident that it has plenty of mine life ahead.Measured and indicated mineral resources increased modestly at Cerro Moro in 2019, while gold and silver inferred mineral resources rose 25% (sic) [ 29% ] and 10%, respectively. Exploration will continue to be focused on drilling high potential target, including Naty.For Jacobina in the midyear exploration update for the mine, we announced that mineral reserve increased by 8.6% from year-end 2018. We continue an improvement to Jacobina's cost structure and development productivity. The operation was able to incorporate ore previously categorized as mineral resources into mineral reserves. The inclusion of the supplemental ore, which is in counter as halo, to the core mineral reserves slightly decreased total mineral reserve grade but significantly increased economical mineral reserves ounces. We have effectively and profitably mined some of the supplemental halo over the past few quarters.We are prioritizing the mining of core mineral reserve with a grade of 2.4 grams per tonne and deferring the majority of the mining and processing of the supplemental halo until late in Jacobina's mine life.At Minera Florida, the result last year on the consolidated property included new veins at better than life of mine grades, underscoring the potential that we see at this operation. The increase in mineral reserve reflect positive result at Pataguas, Don Leopoldo, Fantasma and PVO Sur, amongst others, along with block models revisions. I would also like to highlight gold and copper mineral reserve growth at Agua Rica last year. Gold mineral reserve increased 13% from 2019 to 7.1 million (sic) [ 7.4 million ] ounces and copper mineral reserves rose 21% to 11.8 billion pounds.This slide shows our 3 years' production guidance along with our cost guidance for 2020. We see growth in gold production over the next 3 years with 2020 production at 557,000 (sic) [ 857,000 ] ounces; 2021 at 873,000 ounces; and 2022 at 885,000 ounces. Silver production will be 11.5 million ounces this year; 11 million ounces in 2021; and 10 million ounces in 2022. GEO production of 990,000 ounces this year and 1 million ounces in 2021 and '22. Our guidance for both metal and GEO is plus or minus 2% for 2020 and '21 and plus or minus 3% for 2002. We are confident to achieve and exceed these numbers.As previous year, production will be stronger in the second half of the year with approximately 54% of the production in the second half. Cost of sales for 2020 will be between $1,130 to $1,170 per GEO ounces. Cash cost this year will be between $640 to $680 per GEO, and all-in sustaining costs between $980 and $1,020 per GEO.While we are forecasting a marginal increase in sustaining capital expenditure, we do not anticipate any impact to margins. With the higher production waiting in the second half of the year, the company anticipate unitary cost to also trend lower in the second half in relation to the first half of the year.I will now turn it over to Jason to discuss the financials.

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Jason LeBlanc
Senior VP of Finance & CFO

Great. Thank you, Daniel, and good morning, everyone. I'll start off with a quick recap of some of the financial highlights of the year. Revenue in the fourth quarter was $383.8 million compared with $483.4 million in the same period of 2018, the decrease reflecting that the company's current portfolio comprises 5 mines compared with 7 last year. Despite the lower volumes though, gross margin was flat as metal prices were up significantly year-over-year.Net earnings attributable to Yamana equity holders in the fourth quarter were $14.6 million or $0.02 per share compared with a loss of $61.4 million or $0.06 per share last year. The current quarter includes certain items that may not be reflective of current and ongoing operations totaling $12.1 million. On an adjusted basis then, earnings were $26.7 million or $0.03 per share or flat with last year. During the quarter, we also had our lowest cash cost performance of the year at $656 per GEO, even compared with earlier in the year when we owned Chapada. Jacobina and El Peñón, in particular, had a great Q4.Our Q4 results were best characterized by the strong cash flow and free cash flow performances that we had been expecting to end the year. Cash flows from operating activities increased 75% in the latest quarter to $201.7 million from $114.8 million (sic) [ $114.7 million ] a year ago, while cash flows before net change in working capital were $176.6 million compared to $115.8 million. Free cash flow before dividends and debt repayments during the quarter increased to $73.4 million, up sharply from $9.5 million a year ago. This drove a commensurate reduction in our net debt of about $60 million during the quarter to $889 million, which is our lowest aggregate net debt level since all the way back in 2013. At the time last year, we said to expect our inflection point on free cash flow during Q2 after an investment cycle of several years. That would lead to sequentially increasing free cash flow in Q3 and Q4, which was all the case. We will be generating free cash flow and further reducing both gross and net debt during 2020. We have a scheduled debt maturity of about $56 million in Q1 this year that we'll repay from cash balances at year-end of $159 million plus free cash flow generation.Along with our financial results last night, we also released guidance information, including those on capital for 2020. Expansionary capital spending of $89 million in 2020 is down about $6 million from last year. Sustaining capital of $164 million is up about $18 million from last year, mainly attributable to Cerro Moro as we concentrate more on underground development there. Total exploration spending of $84 million is up from $68 million last year. About $20 million of the total exploration spending will be expensed with the balance capitalized in 2020.With respect to the exploration spend, we are allocating $14 million of our total this year to our generative exploration program to advance many highly prospective opportunities in our portfolio. The program will target the company's most advanced exploration projects while gaining flexibility to prioritize as merited by our drill results. For the increased budget that we are targeting over the next 3 years, we expect to use the proceeds from the monetization of nonproducing assets to fund this budget. This will create a better balance between investing in new projects and maximizing sustainable free cash flow from our operations. While we have a number of prospective land packages, the program is mainly focused on projects in Canada and Brazil.As you can see here, production will be weighted towards the second half of the year, representing 54% of the total. Costs will also follow this profile with lower costs as the year progresses from the unit cost benefits of the higher back-end loaded production. I also wanted to reference back to the strong free cash flow generation we saw in Q4 of 2019, which is our strongest production quarter of the year. With the production and cost profile just mentioned for 2020, free cash flow will follow a similar trend this year, with second half free cash flow above the first half.On average, though, for 2020, we expect to generate quarterly free cash flow during the year that would conservatively approximate our experience in Q3 and Q4 of 2019 on average at spot prices. So that's to say, a very healthy free cash flow profile, which we're quite excited about. With that profile, we can reinvest in our business, continue to improve our balance sheet and target higher sustainable dividends and dividends per ounce for our shareholders.Yamana has positioned itself as a dominant gold company with a portfolio of high-quality assets, providing stable and increasing cash flows, optionality, growth and prospects for additional monetizations. With an American focus, we operate in the best mining jurisdictions in the world.And with that, I'll turn the call back over to Daniel.

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Thank you, Jason. Last year, our slogan was The Beginning of What's Next. Given our progress, it makes sense to revise that to The Beginning of What's Now. And what's happening now is that our free cash flow has grown to a point where we are able to reduce debt significantly using cash from treasury while supporting higher dividend and continuing to grow the business. We are confident that this sustainable -- this is sustainable. As our free cash flow profile continue to improve, we will be in an even better position to advance our growth project and exploration program while further reducing debt and increasing shareholder returns.And with that, I'll be happy to answer your questions. Operator?

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question is from Fahad Tariq from Crédit Suisse.

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Fahad Tariq
Research Analyst

At Jacobina, can you maybe walk through the reason for including the lower supplemental ore in the reserves? And was this the only kind of reason for the reserves increasing 19% year-over-year?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

I will -- Luke Buchanan, our Senior -- our VP of Technical Service will answer the question, Fahad.

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Luke Buchanan
Vice President of Technical Services

First of all, we did increase the higher grade reserves as well, as you saw in the middle of the year, and then we replaced depletion again by the end of the year. In terms of the lower grade, we previously took a conservative approach to downgrade those reserves to measured and indicated resources. But by demonstrating over the past several quarters that we can sustain the low operating cost, we're confident that we can include these in reserves in the later part of the mine life. One of the key improvements was the internalization of development over the past year, which has resulted in improved productivity and lower cost. So we just think now is a good time to add those lower grade reserves back into reserves and include it in the mine plan.

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Fahad Tariq
Research Analyst

And just as a follow-up, can you remind me what the CapEx would be for the Phase 2 expansion in 2021 and 2022?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

In 2021 and 2022. If we go ahead right now, we have said many times it's going to be below $50 million. So we'll complete the study this quarter. We're going to comment in April with the exact numbers. But for now, it's going to be below $50 million and you can assume a split, so $25 million in '21 and in '22.

Operator

The next question is from Ralph Profiti from Eight Capital.

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Ralph M. Profiti
Principal

Firstly, Daniel, when we talk about primary development versus secondary development at Jacobina, can you help us with how far ahead you are on development? And maybe put that in context by comparing to, say, where you were, say, a year ago. And I'd also like to get a sense of how many zones you have open now. And how many are going to be required if you hit the upper end of that expansion phase, let's say, 8,500 tonnes a day?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Thank you, Ralph. I'll let Yohann answer this question.

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Yohann Bouchard
Senior Vice President of Operations

Just to answer your question here, I mean last year, we were doing about 1,500 to 1,800 meters of development per month. This year, we see a development in a range of 1,200 to 1,300. So we already decreased in our, I would say, expansionary CapEx of next year. We indeed put some more development because we believe that the Phase 1 expansion may yield a little bit more throughput than has been previously thought. So I mean to make sure that we're going to be able to support the Phase 1 expansion in case that we're -- I would say in case that we're being a little bit more higher than the 6,500 tonnes per day targeted, we decided to put some more CapEx in our budget this year in that aspect.

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Maybe to answer your first part, Ralph. 5, 6 years ago, we were just in time in development. We are now about 18 months ahead in the development. And the production of the next 6 to 9 months is already all developed and ready to be mined. So that's adding a lot of flexibility to the Jacobina mine. And like Yohann just mentioned, I think when we have completed our 6,500 tonnes per day, they might already think that with the new equipment we will install, we might be able to process more than 6,500 tonnes per day.

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Ralph M. Profiti
Principal

Okay. Got it. Second question is on Argentina export tax. Jason, can you help me maybe reconcile this new regime that talks about sort of fixed percentages as opposed to the 4:1 ratio? And going forward, until this expires, is that going to have kind of around the same impact, sort of $60, $70, maybe $80 an ounce impact?

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Jason LeBlanc
Senior VP of Finance & CFO

Ralph, yes. So we mentioned the 12% tax, which has been announced. It's not approved and finalized yet, but we've assumed that 12% tax prospectively in our planning for the next 2 years. And really, it's -- the easiest way to do it on a per ounce basis, 12% times the gold price, and that will give you the per unit impact at Cerro Moro. Or take that number, divide through by our 990,000 ounces guided to get the consol impact?

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Ralph M. Profiti
Principal

Right. And have you had discussions with the government sort of face time with them to discuss sort of the impact on how they're thinking about it?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Yes, Ralph. We did that discussion with the government. Peter, our Executive Chairman, was there 2 weeks ago, 3 weeks ago to discuss directly with the President of the country. And they understand that we just built Cerro Moro. We spent $330 million to build it, and then we got it with these taxes. I think there's -- they understand. They're listening. And then there's this -- there's going to be a follow-up on this regarding what should be the right level of tax as we have a stability agreement tax of 5% at Cerro Moro. So we're still contesting each time we pay the tax, but we're contesting this tax saying we should pay a maximum of 5%. So we're going to see what will happen in the future. But right now, we say we should pay a maximum of 5%.

Operator

The next question is from Mike Jalonen from Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

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Michael Jalonen
Managing Director

Just had a question on East Gouldie. That's an impressive start there with the resource, I guess, 2.8 million ounces of gold with your partner share. I guess Dan, just on the minability, would you access -- it looks pretty deep. Would that be accessed by a decline ramp from the Canadian Malartic pit or a new shaft? And it looks pretty good thickness. Would it be mined like Goldex for economies of scale? And that would be my first question. I have a second one on East Gouldie.

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Yes. It's quite impressive to have already resources of 2.8 million ounces on 100% after only 1 year of exploration. You're right, it's quite deep right now at between 800 meters to 1.5, 1.6 kilometers below surface, but it's open going towards surface, going east, west and at depth. And I think this is our main goal this year is to find how close to surface it's going and then east and west and deep. Also, it's quite interesting what you saw as resources. We think it's going to be a lot higher than that in the future, but we have just to continue to drill it. It's going to be a similar type of mining than Goldex now with [indiscernible] sitting in the stove. They're quite wide stove and big.We're studying right now, as you know, to start the ramp. We were studying to start the ramp to go to East Malartic and Odyssey. Right now, East Gouldie is a bit too deep to be accessed by ramp. But again, if we find that the zone comes closer to surface, then we might access it by the ramp. This is why we have also delayed the ramp last year. And I was clear 2 times this morning that we have no intention to start to ramp this year as we want to understand better where the East Gouldie zone go up to surface. But also, we have some issues paying higher royalty for underground mines.

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Michael Jalonen
Managing Director

Okay. I guess that's my second question. It says here, Page 23, the Agnico release just include discussions with the royalty holders. Have the discussions started yet?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Yes, they have started. They have started before Christmas. They are still ongoing with the main royalty holder. And then it's progressing. So we're going to see what will happen in the next weeks and months. But for now, for us, nothing has really changed. We're going to continue to drill. We have quite a big exploration program. It's about $20 million, so $10 million or half of it for East Gouldie this year. So we believe in the potential. But as you know, and it's clear in our press release, we use $1,200 per ounce gold when we do our study in our resources and reserve at Malartic, and that -- using that number, the economic is not really good. All the cash flow is going back to the royalty holders.

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Michael Jalonen
Managing Director

Yes. I guess, well -- obviously, I guess Osisko has their 5% NSR. Does Abitibi have a 5% NPI. Is that correct?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

No. The Abitibi has a lot smaller percentage.

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Michael Jalonen
Managing Director

All right. So the main one is just gold royalties and their 5% NSR?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Yes.

Operator

Your next question is from Carey MacRury from Canaccord Genuity.

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Carey MacRury
Analyst of Metals and Mining

Maybe just another question on Malartic, now that you've got East Malartic, obviously, East Gouldie. Just wondering what sort of development options you're thinking about in terms of tonnes per day or size.

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Right now, there's no -- we're doing a study, as we mentioned, last year. So 2018, we started a study on East Malartic and Odyssey alone. The discovery and then -- with the discovery of East Gouldie at the end of 2018, it completely changed our plan to look at the underground projects. So we have restarted. We're just restarting the study right now to -- with the 2.8 million ounces we just announced in resources, we can start to look at a PEA study, internal PEA study to see how we can integrate the 3 zones into mining, but we're just starting. So at this time, we don't have any indication on tonnage and stuff like that. We'll come later this year. I think both partners, we agreed that we would come later this year and then show our plan for Malartic, what we think it would be, but it's too early to say now.

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Carey MacRury
Analyst of Metals and Mining

Okay, great. And then maybe on Cerro Moro. I know you guys had a target of 1 million ounces of gold equivalent over some time period and reserves came down this year. I'm just wondering how you're -- what's the outlook now on exploration at Cerro Moro? Are you still comfortable you can get there? Or is your view changed there?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Henry, you want to answer this one?

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Henry Marsden
Senior Vice President of Exploration

Yes. We talked last year really about increasing our sort of inventory of targets, some at Cerro Moro. We haven't done that over the year. We've had a very strong and aggressive exploration program. We've seen some new discoveries. And we're starting to see small but significant contributions to the inferred resource at Cerro Moro. So by the end of 2020, we should start to see some of those converting into measured and indicated. And we'll see this gradual growth much like we do at Peñón at the Cerro Moro site.

Operator

The next question is from Tanya Jakusconek from Scotiabank.

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Tanya M. Jakusconek
Analyst

I have just a couple of questions, one technical and then just one for you, Jason, on the capital side. Maybe just, Daniel, starting on the technical side. Just looking out for the 3-year guidance, when you provided the 885,000 ounces in 2022. What have you assumed in that guidance for Minera Florida, Jacobina -- and Jacobina?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

As you know, we don't provide mine by mine guidance after this year, but assume that Jacobina, we have already said what will be the production with the increased throughput. Florida will be -- we have always said it's going to be stable for the next 3 years, so the 80,000 to 90,000 ounces.

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Tanya M. Jakusconek
Analyst

Okay. And then when you say Jacobina with the increased throughput, are you implying the 6,500 tonnes per day?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Yes.

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Tanya M. Jakusconek
Analyst

Okay. So you have not built...

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

No. There's no -- in our capital that Jason discussed earlier, there's 0 money for an expansion at Jacobina. Like we said before, we want to wait to see the study coming this quarter. And then we're going to decide if we go ahead. We're going to tell the capital needed to do it. But so far, the 3 years is assuming 6,500 tonnes per day.

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Tanya M. Jakusconek
Analyst

In the production profile and in the capital?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Yes.

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Tanya M. Jakusconek
Analyst

Okay. So -- okay, that's good. And then maybe just on the capital front and maybe this moves over to Jason. We -- I think Daniel mentioned under $50 million if we were to go to the 7.5 million tonnes a day at Jacobina. When you look out the next year, few years, is that really the only -- to 2022, is that really the only development capital you see in your portfolio right now?

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Jason LeBlanc
Senior VP of Finance & CFO

Yes. I know -- Tanya, we'd referenced that to, we call it that bucket of $50 million to $75 million, which we would say a steady state. So we're a little above that this year. The primary difference is spending on Agua Rica with feasibility and some of the stuff. But really to your point, after we get out past this year, that capital drops off pretty significantly. There's no -- there's some odds and sods across the portfolio, but it's a fraction of what we're going to spend this year, in 2021 and '22, at least what we see on paper right now. So when we do come to that decision on Jacobina story, assuming that will be spent over multiple years, we'd be well within that $50 million to $75 million bucket.

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Tanya M. Jakusconek
Analyst

Okay. And then the sustaining sort of in that $165 million range?

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Jason LeBlanc
Senior VP of Finance & CFO

Yes, that's a pretty good number.

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Tanya M. Jakusconek
Analyst

Okay. And then maybe just on the -- you mentioned that this year's capital expenditures doesn't include the development of the exploration ramp at Odyssey and East Malartic. Is that because you're not going ahead with it? Or is that just another number that -- sorry, what is that capital number maybe? And where is it being allocated?

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Jason LeBlanc
Senior VP of Finance & CFO

No. So there's no capital allocated, Tanya. And as I think what Daniel had mentioned is we're still wrapping our arms around the project to find out the best sequencing of everything. So we're not at the point of approving and developing that underground ramp yet.

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Tanya M. Jakusconek
Analyst

Okay. So just the $10 million on exploration was the only expenditure that you're going to have in there, and that's going to be coming through the exploration budget?

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Jason LeBlanc
Senior VP of Finance & CFO

That's right, yes.

Operator

The next question is from Anita Soni from CIBC.

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Anita Soni
Research Analyst

I just wanted to ask a question on El Peñón. I think you touched upon most of it. But just can you delineate where -- I noticed you had some good exploration success there. And could you just delineate what the go-forward plan with El Peñón is?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Henry will answer the question on exploration. But you know El Peñón, you saw last year was an amazing year. The last 3 years, there was an increase in gold production, and then they maintained silver production. I think what we saw last year, it's a good number of what we guided for this year. It's a good number for the coming years for El Peñón. But as we drill and discover more gold and more silver ounces, El Peñón has potential to grow production in the coming years. As you all know, we have a 4,000 tonne per day mill at El Peñón. We're processing around 2,800 -- 2,700, 2,800 tonnes per day. So we have extra mill capacity at El Peñón. Once in a while now, we're processing some of the stockpile as incremental ore. It's bringing ounces to the mill and then at cheap cost. So there's huge potential at El Peñón, but I'll let Henry answer the question on the potential on the exploration.

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Henry Marsden
Senior Vice President of Exploration

Sure. Thanks, Daniel. Yes, Anita, we had a very strong year last year. And I think, as we mentioned, we combined some sort of new techniques, including the machine learning at El Peñón. That developed some strong targets. And we were able to chase some of the principal veins like Orito to depth, and we'll be continuing to do that in 2020, combined with looking at some of the secondary veins that have been very productive for us in the past. And we've also stepped out of the core mine. And we're going to put a significant budget this year into some follow-up drilling on targets, looking for new veins that could extend the mine life beyond what we're seeing currently. So we're really on a very similar program. We just plan to keep on showing a growth in resources there and to continue replacing depletion on an annual basis ongoing.

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Anita Soni
Research Analyst

Okay. And then maybe you could talk a little bit about the generator program that you have going forward? So you said $14 million budgeted for this year. And then going forward, you guys are planning to fund that plan. Is that in a similar level that you said you're going to fund it based on asset sales, I guess noncore assets or things that are more tied up in the balance sheet, not generating cash flow? Like could you talk about that plan and how you see that going forward?

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Yes, Anita. The total is around $53 million for the next 3 years, so $14 million this year. As you can see, it will increase in 2021 and 2022. Henry will give the detail out of it. And then you're absolutely right. All the funding for this will come from the nonproducing assets. So either the royalty portfolio, sell -- some selling of our Brio Gold shares or money coming from Agua Rica. We don't intend to use cash flow from operation to provide that exploration that's already a generative program in the past few years. So for this year, it was easy. The $14 million was already mostly in the budget we had already. It's just we move the money that was going somewhere else to generative exploration program in Canada and Brazil. But Henry can give more detail.

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Henry Marsden
Senior Vice President of Exploration

Yes. Certainly, what -- we've built a very strong portfolio of properties particularly in Brazil, and we've been slowly moving those ahead. What we'd like to see with the use of the monetization fund is a very stable exploration program. It's independent of gold price, independent of some of the cash flow restraints we've seen in the past. So we'll be basically moving ahead our internal projects aggressively this year and then with increasing budgets over the next 2 years with, as Daniel mentioned, about $53 million total budget over 3 years.

Operator

There are no further questions registered at this time. I'd like to turn the meeting back over to Mr. Racine.

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Daniel Racine
President & CEO

Thank you, operator. Thank you, everyone, for joining our call, and stay tuned for our Q1 release in April and our continued cash flow, free cash flow generation in the coming month and quarter. Thank you, and have a wonderful Valentine day. Bye.

Operator

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