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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q3

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Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the mCloud Technologies Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I will now turn the conference call over to Mr. Wayne Andrews, mCloud's Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

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Wayne Andrews

Thank you, operator. Today, we will discuss the audited results for the 3 months ended September 30, 2021. Presenting from mCloud is Russ McMeekin, our Chief Executive Officer; and Chantal Schutz, our Chief Financial Officer.Before we proceed further, please note that the remarks on this conference call may contain forward-looking statements about mCloud Technologies' current, future plans, expectations, intentions, results, levels of activity, performance, goals or achievements or any other future events or developments.Forward-looking statements are based on information currently available to management and on investments and assumptions based on factors that management believes are appropriate and reasonable in the substances. However, there can be no assurance that such estimates and assumptions will prove to be correct.Many factors could cause actual results, levels of activity, performance, achievements, future events or developments to differ materially from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. As a result, mCloud Technologies cannot guarantee that any forward-looking statements will materialize, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements.Except as may be required by law, mCloud Technologies has no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. For additional information on these assumptions and risks, please consult the cautionary statement regarding forward-looking information contained in the company's most recent MD&A available on SEDAR. I'm now going to hand the call over to Russ McMeekin, CEO. Please go ahead, Russ.

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Thank you, Wayne, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to our third quarter 2021 conference call. Operator, please move to the highlights slide. Q3 highlights. Our AssetCare Over Time recurring revenues were $6.6 million compared -- in the quarter compared to $3.6 million in Q3 of last year. Our total AssetCare revenues were $21.5 million compared to $12.3 million in the 9 months last year.We only added 945 connected assets, bringing us just under 64,000 connected assets. We are definitely focused on exceeding the 70,000. We will talk about backlog later. And pipeline, we have the backlog and pipeline to exceed 70,000 in fact, get to 100,000. We are at the mercy in Alberta specifically, not only the limitations imposed by the province, but by each customer's policy, we expect to see, at least in some customers' case, those restrictions to begin to lift here in December, and we'll start seeing some increased to -- back to prior levels of installations.Just recently, we completed the milestone of listing on the NASDAQ. We also completed an underwritten offering of USD 9.5 million. And we've commenced our first of very many installations in Saudi Arabia which will lay the groundwork for some very large growth starting in 2022. I will now turn the call over to Chantal.

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Chantal Schutz
Executive VP & CFO

Thank you, Russ, and thank you, everyone, for joining us here this morning. As Russ mentioned on the last slide, we continue to see good growth in our AssetCare Over Time revenue with an 85% increase year-over-year and a modest 3% quarter-over-quarter change. Operator, if you can move to Slide 4, labeled Q3 2021 versus Q3 2020 total revenue.Thank you. We see a healthy increase in total revenues when we look at Q3 2020 compared with Q3 2021 with a 19% increase. Notably, our AssetCare Over Time revenues have increased from only 58% of total revenue mix to 90% in the current quarter. We expect this to be rebalanced when we commence a more normal pace of new connected assets on a quarterly basis.Russ will be addressing several initiatives that will lay the foundation for this later in our presentation. AssetCare initialization is a modest 7% in Q3 2021 compared to 26% in Q3 2020. And this reflects the ongoing COVID restrictions in some of our key markets notably Alberta.Operator, please turn to the slide labeled first 9 months 2021 versus first 9 months 2020 revenue. Thank you. Shifting our attention now to the cumulative 9-month results, revenue grew 29% for the 9 months ending September 30, 2021, compared with the 9 months ending September 30, 2020. Consistent with the results we see isolated in Q3 2021 compared with Q3 2020, our AssetCare Over Time revenues have grown from 41% of total revenue for the 9 months ended to 84% of total revenue for the 9 months ended September 30, 2021.AssetCare initialization shifted from 28% of revenues in the 9 months ending September 30, 2020, to 10% of revenues for the 9 months ending September 30, 2021, further reflecting the fact that there were delayed installations resulting from the pandemic restrictions, primarily in Alberta. Q3 gross margins in 2021 were 61% compared with 63% in Q3 2020 and 64% year-to-date 2021 compared with 62% year-to-date 2020.Gross margins increased resulting from 84% of our revenues coming from AssetCare Over Time. We expect this to also rebalance as we commence to have more normalized quarterly connections in the 5,000 to 10,000 per quarter as the pandemic restrictions are lifted, mainly in Alberta.Operator, please turn to the slide labeled leveraging OpEx to create AssetCare growth. Thank you. Our ability to leverage operating expenses to create AssetCare growth continues to be a key indicator. As reflected in this slide, we continue to trend in a positive direction. Our goal is to achieve 70,000 connected assets, the point at which we estimate AssetCare Over Time recurring revenues will more than offset direct operating expenses. Russ will be touching on some of the key performance metrics later in this presentation in respect to this.Operator, please turn to the slide labeled expenses in Q3 2021. Thank you. Our operating losses were $8.6 million in Q3 2021 compared with $7.6 million in Q3 2020. This was largely driven by noncash increases in depreciation and amortization. Increased expenditures directly attributed to research and development work, offset by a modest decline in combined sales, marketing and other customer acquisition costs.Our loss before tax was positively impacted by a $1.3 million improvement in foreign exchange. The company also recognized a fair value on derivative -- fair value loss on derivative of $8.7 million. This is directly attributed to the IFRS accounting treatment of certain changes in terms of the 2021 debentures, including a reduced conversion price on certain tranches and the addition of a common share purchase warrant for each common share. Details can be found in Note 11(b) of the financial statements.Operator, please turn to the slide labeled updated performance metrics year-to-date 2021. I'll now turn the call back to Russ.

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes. Looking at performance metrics. Obviously, we're operating in a pretty captive market. So our win-loss ratio still remains quite high at 78%, which we're quite pleased with. We had good leverage and productivity of our sales expense, our 3.7x LTV to CAC ratio, a pretty robust number. And our combined pipeline and backlog here is at $178 million, and that provides us very good air cover or coverage for 2022 to provide us the growth engine we need to keep this machine going.Operator, please move to the next slide. Business update continues here. We announced last week that we were Deloitte Tech Fast 500. We were #57th in North America and #2 clean tech company from a growth perspective in Canada. We received a Ministry of Investment, which is MISA license in Saudi Arabia. In fact, I was in Kingdom 3 weeks ago. We are the first company to receive a MISA license for cloud, AI, analytics and a number of other tech things that allow us to be a unique supplier in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. We will be announcing sometime hopefully before year-end or early next year that we are running in a fully endorsed cloud by the Kingdom, in fact, largely owned by Saudi Aramco cloud. So that will put us in a very unique scenario in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. I was at a ribbon cutting in a first installation of a major owner of quick-serve restaurants and another -- a number of other retail operations, primarily in shopping malls and other locations. We went live on the first 2 of 175 locations in the Kingdom and we're moving at a pretty good pace in the Kingdom to be up and running in as many places as we can.The restrictions there are pretty limited now that they have pretty robust policies for workers. So we're able to do some pretty good things in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Next slide. We also announced following the closing of our underwritten -- announcing the underwritten transaction that we were able to our ATB credit facility for an additional $5 million. There are certain criteria we additionally need to make, but we're very pleased to have that additional accordion getting us to $10 million of availability. We're now moving from only working on 3-year contracts to large master service agreements with licensing components. This is for all of AssetCare, AI, 3D digital twin, connected workers. We have 4 of these underway, 2 of them in North America, 2 of them in the Middle East and these will move beyond our traditional 3 years. These will definitely be significant number of connected assets. These will be working very collaboratively. In the case of 3 of these companies, they're mega companies, and this will put us in a really good position going forward to not only have large footprint within large operators, but big referenceable locations that we can use to expand to other places.Next slide. In summary, we had 75% AssetCare revenue growth in the first 9 months. That's compared to last year. We have ongoing adoption from our existing customers, adding assets to their fleet. We saw in the quarter some pretty nice pickup in revenues in Asia Pacific. We continue to see restrictions in Q3 that hampered implementation, but we still build -- continue to build good backlog, and this move to this master service agreement will add even more significant backlog going into 2022 and throughout the year of 2022.For Q4 and 2022, our priorities are, obviously, in Alberta fully functioning, which we are on track to do starting later this month. Saudi Arabia, as I mentioned already. And we have activities, a lot of in oil and gas starting in the lower 48 states, and we'll see a lot more -- we'll be talking a lot more about that in 2022. Growing our business in Saudi Arabia is obviously oil and gas with some of the largest operators in the world. We will leverage our MISA license, but we will also be connecting a lot more buildings. I had a great meeting with the health minister in our Health Ministry in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia so some good policy setting going on in the Kingdom. That will be a good example of how AssetCare for indoor air quality will be used.In North America, you'll start seeing some larger deals that combine HVAC and IAC (sic) [ IAQ ] combined. We'll be announcing those shortly here some very large deals as people get back to work. So now we'll end the prepared remarks and turn it over for some questions -- analyst questions. Back to you, operator.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question does come from Brian Kinstlinger from Alliance Global Partners.

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Brian David Kinstlinger

So in reviewing the Alberta COVID restrictions, I read by showing you're vaccinated, wearing a mask and distancing you are able to work in offices, I believe. Is that -- first, is that accurate?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes, it is.

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Brian David Kinstlinger

And if it, why aren't installing? Is it customers are closed and not letting you install? Or what specifically is it that's not enabling you to install in Alberta?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes, pretty much. I was in office buildings last week, which were pretty empty. So that's one. On the industrial side, it's their own policy. So yes, you can have -- so first of all, they're not insisting on employees having a vaccine yet, so you don't know if they do, if they don't. And it's the employer's policies. So I think they're going to start modifying their policies to allow people to be more functional, do more things.But your interpret -- but I think the other part you're missing in that policy is and only -- with all that, only 30% of the fire-rated capacity is allowed. So yes to those 2 things, they're not mandating yet checking that you have in the workplace, everyone has their vaccines, you do in restaurants, you do in sporting events, you do with casinos. But also, you're limited to 30% of the fire-rated capacity.

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Brian David Kinstlinger

So is it that the employers right now are more restrictive, if not policy of Alberta. It's more the employer restricting you from coming?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes. The employers, for sure, but I think the restriction that I actually sent to you shows you in there, there is a 30% capacity as well. So that makes for a pretty dysfunctional operation. I know in our own office, we can even have more than 30% of the fire-rated capacity that makes for a pretty dysfunctional operation.

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Brian David Kinstlinger

Got it. And so I know last quarter, you talked about connections in Alberta -- Europe for a couple of months. in October and November, are they still close to 0?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes, close to 0. But now we started some -- you will see some announcements soon started some. So in December, that 0 is picking up. So yes.

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Brian David Kinstlinger

Okay. And then can you quantify -- I know you give a pipeline/backlog. Can you quantify the number of -- sorry, the total number of assets in signed contracts as well as the backlog that signed for TCV?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes. So a very specific number of assets is about close to 90,000. And TCV not $80 million. We said we'd try to get to $80 million by year-end. We're not there yet, but I think we'll see a number of deals that will get us to that $80 million of that pipeline of $178 million. We went...

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Brian David Kinstlinger

I think you were at $45 million last quarter. Are you higher than that right now? Are you lower than that?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes, that's what I said. We're higher than $45 million. We're not quite at $80 million yet, but we said the last quarter, by year-end, we expected to have signed backlog of close to $80 million. So we're not quite there yet. There's still another month to go, but we're tracking to that end of the $178 million.

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Brian David Kinstlinger

Okay. And then in this current environment with a new COVID variant, what geographies do you see the most opportunity to actually get assets connected? Where are these restrictions not impacting you as much? And then how much TCV do you have in those regions?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Obviously, Saudi Arabia, which I talked about, Southeast Asia and parts of Asia. So that -- you asked me how this new variant will impact? I think word of it came out Friday. So I don't know that I have an intelligent answer around the new variant. Where do we have backlog? I can just tell you we have some Middle East, we have lots and I don't know that this new variant is going to cause any major changes in Alberta to be quite honest with you. I think they're going to impose that you have to have a vaccine and put some tight employer policy rules and get back to work is what I think they'll actually do versus just tiptoeing around it. And we're starting to -- I mean, I'm on my way to visit some customers on the Redeye here soon. And that was before this new crazy variant. So I assume they're ready to roll, and that's here in the United States.

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Brian David Kinstlinger

Okay. Two more quick ones. First of all, how, if at all, is impacting the sales process for getting installations? Are you able to travel? Are you able to visit customers? Is it mostly remote sales right now? Talk about how the sales process is being impacted right now?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes. So there's 2 dimensions that I am primarily in the United States. I was in Alberta for 2 weeks, but I have 2 passports. So with my American Passport, I can fly to the Middle East and so on. So I've been able to personally fly our Canadian people coming to the U.S. until recently. That hasn't been easy. As you know, we've -- our Canadian U.S. cross-border and the predominance of our expertise today is in Alberta around oil and gas.For buildings, we're pretty self-contained in the U.S. So they've been -- that's pretty much a drive to customer site. So that hasn't been impeded much in the last month. So the selling process both in California and New York has been pretty good. And also within the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, we have our own kind of operating people there, so they're able to travel within the country without much restrictions.So cross-border travel has been a bit cumbersome. I travel on 2 passports, so it makes it a little bit easier. Within, call it, the city areas where we have people, it's been pretty much unrestricted for the last month.

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Brian David Kinstlinger

Okay. And then lastly, on the balance sheet, your accounts receivable went up significantly in the September quarter compared to June despite similar revenue. Are customers struggling to pay as their businesses struggle or what might be behind this trend?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

I'll let Chantal address that. I think it's not struggling to pay. It's just timing of paying, but go ahead, Chantal.

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Chantal Schutz
Executive VP & CFO

Yes, that's exactly right, Russ. It's just timing of paying. We don't foresee any issues around any of our customers' ability to pay.

Operator

Your next question comes from Jack Vander from Maxim Group.

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Jack Vander Aarde
Senior Technology Analyst

Okay. Great. I appreciate the quarterly update. Congrats on the recent uplisting as well. Just a couple of more questions from me. I think a lot of mine have been asked, but Russ, just another question on combined backlog plus pipeline. I think it was on Slide 8, maybe in the presentation, totaled CAD 178 million. Can you just remind me how you classify or to find backlog versus pipeline? Or if there is much of a difference just nuances there?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

The nuance is ink versus high probability of ink. So pipeline is high probability of ink, but not inked yet. So per Brian's question, how much of it is inked? I think I answered that question. And how much of it is of high probability proposals, contracts being drafted, but no ink yet. So that's the combination. So the nuance is ink, that's it.

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Jack Vander Aarde
Senior Technology Analyst

Understood. Okay. I appreciate the color. And then just as a reminder to you then, of those assets in that pipeline, can you just talk about the mix maybe in terms of what types of assets could -- right now, I still think it's like mostly smart buildings and HVAC?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

The building sizes that we are signing now and you'll see some things coming soon are significantly bigger than we've done in the past, like very much bigger than we've done in the past. So there's a heavy skew of number of assets that are building centric. But oil and gas is pretty strong in terms of number of accounts.And it's nicely -- so there's a lot of questions here about Alberta. So when Alberta was kind of ignoring COVID, and we were rocking. Everybody loved Alberta. Now Alberta is like tightened up and everybody seems to have a heartburn with Alberta, but they'll be back again. But now everywhere else in the world, where they're pretty much unrestricted, have a lot of oil and gas, and we're signing some pretty good contracts. So you'll see a good distribution, first of all, oil and gas and buildings and geographic distribution.

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Jack Vander Aarde
Senior Technology Analyst

Got you. And then how about just on a global basis, an update on maybe potential new wind turbines that are being connected or in the pipeline?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

[Indiscernible] primarily in Europe, just like I kept Asia quiet and then you saw the revenues creep up. Let me keep Europe, win quiet, and then you'll see the revenues creep up. I didn't do a bunch of handwaving about Asia last quarter, and I think you saw a nice material increase in revenues there.Let's apply the same principle here to Europe and wind, and I think you'll be pleased with that. China is a weird one this side. I don't know how they're going to react to this new variant. I don't know. There's a lot of wind opportunity in China, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

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Jack Vander Aarde
Senior Technology Analyst

Okay. Got you. And then maybe just 1 more on -- maybe more in Saudi Arabia. You've clearly -- there's been a ton of press releases on it. You spent a lot of time talking about today. Congrats on updating the license by the way. It seems like you've made a lot of moves clearly building momentum over there since receiving that license. Can you just talk about maybe in 2022, just what does Saudi Arabia as a whole? What does this represent to you in terms of maybe new connected assets next year? Like how many connected assets -- what portion of your 2022 assets will be in Saudi Arabia and also the AssetCare revenue from those? Is it a similar unit economics elsewhere?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Identical unit economics. It could be quite significant. I'm reluctant to give kind of any numbers because it's not -- once we start installing them, and we're fully functioning, then I would be more than happy to be more clear about kind of the cadence of installations. As an example, our customer there, one of our customers there is larger than Exxon and Shell combined. So there's no lack of ability in footprint and desire and appetite. We just need to get running on the cloud there, which should be done before year-end. We'll announce something there. And then connect the first, call it 100, 200 assets, get that functioning and then we can start speaking very precisely about the cadence of connections, which will be quite significant. I mean it's a huge market. So...

Operator

And your last question comes from Martin Toner from ATB Capital Markets.

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Martin Toner
Analyst

Just wondering any plans for the cash you guys just raised. What are proceeds likely to be?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes, they're defined in the prospectus. They're defined in the prospectus, but Saudi Arabia, obviously, we discussed it continue to -- we have been making a lot of progress with regulators around the ESG technology to make sure it becomes a standard. Our software become in the decarbonization movement largely in oil and gas. We have some money to spend on development there and general working capital. But again, it's -- there'll be a -- at close today, there'll be a filed prospectus or supplement prospective updated. The use of proceeds will be those 3 buckets.

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Martin Toner
Analyst

Great. And are you still confident in reaching EBITDA breakeven level?

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

In 2022?

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Martin Toner
Analyst

Yes.

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes. Yes.

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Martin Toner
Analyst

Fantastic. Any issues with customers in any locations putting the subscription on hold? If they -- for example, areas where they are unable to operate.

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Yes, they were put on hold a couple of small locations, de minimis to numbers. So we backed this up you're talking like less than 100 in terms of numbers, I think less than 100. And I think they're back on track now, so they're back on anyway. So within a 90-day period, but very, very de minimis.

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. You may please proceed.

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Russel H. McMeekin
Co

Okay. Well, we thank everyone for joining the call, and we'll speak at the next year-end conference call. Thank you.

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Chantal Schutz
Executive VP & CFO

Thank you.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you very much for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.