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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q2

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

Thank you very much, and welcome to Better Collective's webcast presentation in connection with the Q2 2021 report covering the period from April 1 to June 30, which we released today. My name is Jesper Sogaard. I'm the Co-Founder and CEO of Better Collective. And with me today are CFO, Flemming Pedersen; and Head of IR, Christina Thomsen. Thank you for finding the time to join in today. I've been looking forward to share our Q2 results with you. Now let's get going. Please turn to Page 2, where we display our disclaimer regarding any forward-looking statements in this presentation. I ask you to please pay attention to this. Please turn to Page 3. The agenda for today's presentation is structured so -- is structured as follows. As always, we start by going through the business highlights for the quarter, hereafter Flemming will walk you through the Q2 financials. Following the financial review, I'll be reviewing our business and fill you in on progress and relevant updates. In the business review, I will recap the highlights from the acquisition of the Action Network that we completed in Q2 and which is by far our largest acquisition to date. We'll round the presentation off by highlighting key takeaways, which will be followed by a Q&A session. Please turn to Page 4. Following a strong performance in Q1, the second quarter marks yet an all-time high for Better Collective. As you shall see during this presentation, the continued strong performance has especially been driven by our U.S. business and our media partnerships, which saw breakthrough performance. Overall, we are very satisfied with the development of our business. Please turn to Page 5. Looking at the financial highlights. Growth in Q2 was strong, however, also against a weak comparison due to the significant effect on Q2 last year by the COVID lockdowns. Yet this quarter hit a record high revenue of EUR 40 million, which equates a 162% increase, of which, 47% was organic growth. Most profound in the Publishing business that saw 75% organic growth. Our operational earnings increased by 90% to EUR 13 million. Cash flow from operations before special items was EUR 11 million. Earning margins and cash conversion were all highly satisfactory and in line with our financial targets. For the number of new depositing customers in Q2, we established a new quarterly record, as we said, more than 197,000 NDCs to our partners, which equates a growth of 179%. Flemming will revert with more information regarding the financial performance, including some insights into the underlying performance of the business. Please turn to Page 6. Now let me share some of the business highlights with you. What really excited me in the recent quarter are the green dots on the slide. Peak was the acquisition of the Action Network that really cements our position in the U.S. I'll speak more about Action later, but we are all very excited to welcome Action's 100-member staff to the BC Group. The Action Network is, in my mind, the #1 asset in the U.S. sports betting industry, and I'm looking forward to see how we together can build this even further. We see strong performance, which exceeded our expectations, in our existing U.S. business. Even though Q2 is low season, we saw revenue and NDCs on par with the high seas in Q1. A real breakthrough was recorded in our media partnership business. We started this new strategic leg 2 years ago. And following last year's proof of concept, we saw the performance really taking off in Q2. The regulatory developments in new markets continued the positive trends. This will be a cornerstone for our future growth, and we are preparing for all new market openings, which I'll get back to. As a sports fan, the return of spectators to the arenas was in isolation, perhaps not so important for our digital business. But to me, it is the essence of the whole business of sports entertainment that we are part of. So personally, that was a big win during the past quarter. Moving down the traffic light. The Paid Media is performing well following the acquisition of Atemi Group in Q4 last year. However, we have made several changes to the business model seeking growth, while at the same time protecting profits and investing in sending players on revenue share contracts. I can say that we have a world-class team in place that have managed to grow the business and demonstrate that they can manage profitability, both short and long term. We have seen some challenges in the first half year, but we have managed and have big expectation that this can become even bigger and more profitable. Q2 showed the way. We continue to see good growth in July, even though the sports win margin was very low and even though it was on the back of a strong comparison last year, where the month of July was quite unusual as many of the big sports leagues have moved their season closings to July because of COVID. That said, it's been a satisfactory start to Q3 that we faced some headwinds given the low sports win margin and some comparison factors to take note of this quarter. As the last dot on the slide indicates, we're also facing headwinds in certain areas. In some mature European markets, we are seeing adjustments to existing regulation through higher taxes in Denmark, COVID restrictions on the gambling in Sweden and Spain. And in Germany, where a whole new regulation is positive, but may provide short-term market volatility and adjustments to the way we work. However, as mentioned, the new market openings by far exceed such challenges that have to be expected. So for the overall business, we're really favored by the general regulatory trends. Please turn to Page 7, where I'll pass on the word to Flemming.

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Thank you, Jesper. Now let's take a deep dive into the financials for Q2. So please follow me to Page 8. Revenue growth in Q2 was strong compared to the same quarter last year and marks a record high. Total revenue for Q2 was EUR 40 million, which is a 162% growth, compared to the same period last year, though as Jesper mentioned, Q2 2020 is a weak comparison due to the COVID lockdowns. The organic revenue growth was 47% and the split between Publishing and Paid Media was 65% in Publishing and 35% for Paid Media. Revenue share accounted for 47% of the total growth -- of the total revenue with 40% coming from CPA; 5% from subscription sales and 8% from other income. Overall, the income from revenue share increased to almost EUR 20 million in Q2. Adding to that, our U.S. business also includes increasing revenue from subscriptions implying solid growth in the total recurring revenue base. We saw an all-time high number of NDCs of 197,000 in the quarter, growth of 179%. An increasing number of NDCs are sent on revenue share and hybrid deals, including the NDCs that we sent from the Paid Media. And as Jesper mentioned, we saw a real breakthrough from our media partnerships where we sent more than 38,000 NDCs. Please turn to Page 9. Operational earnings in Q2 on EBITDA increased 90% to EUR 12.7 million. The group EBITDA margin was 32% compared to a margin of 44% in the same quarter last year. For 2021, the margin is affected by the addition of the lower margin in the Paid Media business that we added from Q4 last year. The EBITDA margin for the Publishing segment was 43%. And if we allow ourselves to include the first month of Action Network, it was 46%. Overall, the cost base is impacted by increases following the 2020 acquisitions of Atemi as well as the addition of the smaller Mindway as from January 1, and Action Network that was included from May 2021, so only 1 month. Excluding the acquisitions, the cost base was almost unchanged compared to Q1 with a small increase in Publishing and a corresponding decrease in Paid Media. Please turn to Page 10. Moving on to the cash flow and balance sheet. In Q2, operating cash flow before special items was EUR 11 million and cash conversion -- with a cash conversion rate of 93%. While acquisitions and other investments reduced cash flow with EUR 183 million in Q2, a capital increase covered part of that with EUR 146 million. By the end of the Q2, Better Collective's capital reserves stood at EUR 69 million, including cash of EUR 40 million and unused bank credit facilities of EUR 29 million. The ratio net debt-to-EBITDA ended at 1.85, well below our financial target of 3.0. Please turn to Page 11. Coming back to revenue and growth, let me take -- walk you through 2 of our internal key performance indicators. On this first slide, we look at the sports wagering, which is growth in the underlying betting volume on revenue share accounts. Here we have, as usual, added to the historical numbers from acquired companies and indexed them all with index 100 starting in Q1 2018. Please note that the figures represent Better Collective's aggregated data sources accounting historically for a certain percentage of Better Collective's annual commission earnings. As can be seen from the graph, the underlying betting volume in these revenue share counts increases over time with growth in recent quarters that we mainly attribute to the many NDCs that we have been sending in previous years. The COVID effect is notable in Q2 last year. In Q3 and Q4 of 2020, we saw high performance in terms of wagering in our European revenue share count and Q1 2021 landed on an all-time high. For Q2, we see a continuation of this upgoing curve, and Q2 landed again an all-time high of index 207, aided by the activity during -- we saw during the Euro 2020 tournament. This is very encouraging, and it is a strong indicator for the increased value in the player databases that we have built, and as mentioned before, reflected in the absolute income from revenue share count. Please turn to Page 12. In addition to the betting volume, our second internal key performance indicator is the average sports win margin in the same revenue share count. In other words, what percentage is paid out on the volume. We have used the same indexing as in the graph before. And what can be seen is that the margins fluctuate over the quarters and that Q2 was at index 84.8. The average index number in the quarter shown is 83.6, and as such, Q2 lands slightly above the historical average. The volatility in sports win margin is something we view as being transient, but it can, of course, affect short-term financial performance up or downwards. With this review, please turn to Page 13 and the word back to Jesper.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

Thanks, Flemming. As something new, we have incorporated a business review of our Publishing and Paid Media segmentation and offer a geographical split between the U.S. and the rest of the world. In the following, I'll walk you through updates, relevant news and regulatory changes relating to these 4 segments. At the end, I'll return with my perspective on the acquisition of Action Network. Please turn to Page 14. Our Publishing segment includes revenue from Better Collective's proprietary online platforms and media partnerships where the online traffic is coming either directly or through organic search results. Revenue grew 79% of which 75% was organic growth to EUR 26 million. The Publishing segment constituted 65% of the group's revenue in Q2 and 88% of the EBITDA. Q2 saw the expected strong performance, including the biggest sports betting event, Euro 2020, that took place following a 1-year postponement. The U.S. business outperformed our expectations as NDCs and revenue performed on par with Q1 despite Q2 normally being low season for U.S. sports. On top of this, the newly acquired Action Network was consolidated into the group with 1 month only, including revenue of EUR 1.8 million and 0 profit. The inclusion of Action reduced the EBITDA margin in Publishing by 3 percentage points in the quarter. Following the proof of concept for our media partnership strategy last year, we are now seeing very strong performance from this business area that includes partnerships with the Daily Telegraph, NJ.com, and 3 newly signed partnerships. As mentioned earlier, the partnerships delivered more than 38,000 new depositing customers in Q2, which is 42x over last year. Updates to search engines continue to favor branded assets with strong content and this trend is expected to continue. This trend supports our strategy of having a strong portfolio of media brands, including HLTV, Action Network, Vegas Insider, RotoGrinders, et cetera. And we are really experiencing the value of investing in brand building through relevant content and strong technology that facilitates the best user journeys. Please turn to Page 15. The revenue in the Paid Media segment was EUR 40 million in Q2 this year, with good growth following the acquisition of Atemi in Q4 2020. The organic growth for Q2 was 13%, where a very strong Q2 in 2020 for Atemi provided for a strong comparison. Note that Atemi historically was mostly focused on online casino that saw great performance during last year's COVID lockdowns. Paid Media segment is currently impacted by our decision to switch more indices from pure CPA to revenue share contracts or hybrid revenue models. Whereas the switch is expected to have a positive impact in the longer run, the revenue and EBITDA margins are impacted negatively in the short term with EBITDA for Q2 of EUR 1.5 million and an EBITDA margin of 11%. Paid Media delivered 35% of the group's revenue in Q2 and 12% of EBITDA. In Q2, we continued our efforts with Paid Media in the U.S. after having improved partner contracts following initial successful campaigns. Please turn to Page 16. The geographical segmentation is new from Q2 this year and is caused by the fact that the U.S. market isolated is expected to constitute more than 20% of group revenue on an annualized basis and is a key market going forward. Key U.S. brands within sports betting include Action Network, Vegas Insider and Scores and Odds, whereas RotoGrinders is focused on daily fantasy sports. The U.S. market overall delivered strong performance, even considering the low season and was especially driven by Vegas Insider and RotoGrinders. Revenue in the U.S. segment was EUR 6.9 million in Q2 this year, more than 5x the revenue in Q2 last year. The acquisition of Action Network is included as of May 29 and contributed with revenue of EUR 1.8 million and neutral EBITDA for the period until June 30 this year. Including the 1 month of Action Network, the EBITDA margin for the quarter was 36%. Regulatory updates for the U.S. The U.S. is a key market for Better Collective to expand our geography in the coming years and to establish a base from which to grow organically. Most of our business is based on the affiliate marketing model. And in recent years, we have started adding new revenue streams, making us a broader-based media group. Better Collective became a licensed vendor in New Jersey in 2014. And since then, our presence in the U.S. has grown tremendously. Better Collective is currently live in 11 states, while the launch in Washington, D.C. is in preparation. Arizona is expected to launch mobile online wagering on sports event in this year. With this regulatory structure, Arizona opens for a user-friendly market. And as a result of this liberal legislation, we see Arizona as an important state moving forward. Retail-only states, led by New York, North Carolina and Mississippi, will be looking to authorize mobile wagering, while Illinois is expected to permanently eliminate in-person registration in 2022. Given the continued pace of new states regulating, Better Collective expects the U.S. market to continue growing fast and U.S. revenues to surpass $100 million by 2022 with positive and increasing operational earnings. Market analysts expects the total U.S. sports betting market to expand more than 4x until 2025 and more than 20x in the next decade. Please turn to Page 17. The Rest of the world segment includes other markets of which the European markets are historically strong, but also more mature markets. New opportunities in focus include Latin America, Canada and the Netherlands as upcoming regulation of these markets offer new opportunities. Revenue in the rest of the world markets more than doubled in Q2 to EUR 33 million. As mentioned earlier, an interim regime to govern gambling in Germany was implemented in October 2020. And the new interest rate treaty on gambling came into force on July 1 this year, which runs in line with Better Collective's expectations. For more than a year, we've been preparing for the new regulatory framework and have been adapting our business model in collaboration with our partners to comply with the new regulations. While some market adjustments are to be expected in the short term following the implementation of the new interstate treaty, the overall commercial outlook is slightly better than anticipated for Better Collective. We have included a more comprehensive description of the new German regulation in our Q2 report. Zooming in on the Netherlands, the Remote Gambling Act of the Netherlands legalized online gambling in the country and entered officially into effect on April 1 this year. The online gambling market in the Netherlands is expected to officially go live on October 1. Better Collective is in dialogue with relevant operators and is preparing a number of products for launch. With a population of more than 17 million people, relatively attractive regulation, high GDP and high interest in sports, we believe that the Netherlands will become a very large market for Better Collective in the years to come. On Canada, following the approval of the new legislation legalizing single-game wagering, Canada's first provinces and territories are expected to allow online betting from the end of the year this year. Better Collective is preparing to roll out key U.S. and international brands in Canada as soon as regulation allows. In Spain, the Royal Decree came into effect on November 5, 2020, imposing limitations on the advertising of gambling activities, including a ban on customer acquisition promotions, i.e. sign-up bonuses. Some aspects of the decree have different implementation timing. For instance, the banner on sign-up bonuses came into force in May this year, meaning that our future advertising activities on the Spanish market will be evaluated and implemented in the coming months. Similarly, in Sweden, the regulators are restricting bonuses to SEK 100 and applying weekly deposit limits for casino games at SEK 5,000. The duration of these restrictions is currently on debate, but is expected to be lifted in November this year. Please turn to Page 18. Now I'll finalize the business review with a brief look on Action. Building on our U.S. success and the large potential in the continued regulation, we have completed our largest acquisition to date. The acquisition of Action consolidates Better Collective's leading position in the affiliate and customer delivery verticals within online sports betting enabled through these strong product platforms and their market-leading reach. In a highly competitive landscape and with the vast growth scenarios that we are looking into, adding a content-rich household media brand gives us a unique and market-leading position. The acquisition of Action Network creates a strong foundation for benefiting from the continuous regulation of the U.S. betting market, and the performance of Action since the time of consolidation has been strong across KPIs including a significant audience growth. But most of our business is based on the affiliate marketing model, and in recent years, we have started adding new revenue streams, making us a broader-based media group. This transition signifies an increased focus on our branded products and ongoing changes in how we interact with our users. Adding Action, which we deem to be the absolute best and most complete product for the U.S. market, clearly strengthens our position and secures market leadership. Since the foundation, we have aimed to make sports betting and gambling entertaining transparent and fair for the global network of online betters, which aligns very well with Action's mission to make sports fans smarter about betting through credible sports betting products and information. Please turn to Page 19. Founded in 2017 and launched in 2018, Action is uniquely positioned in the U.S. market as the premium sports content and product destination for U.S. sports betters. A trusted source for sports fans, Action's media platforms provide an enhanced experience for its users through original sports news content, premium insights, deep menus of odds and proprietary betting tools and data. Action is the premier content and product destination for U.S. sports betters and does this in 2 ways through, one, award-winning content and media assets built across audio, video and award-winning apps and platforms; technology with assets around informing U.S. sports betters and allowing them to track their picks, follow us and engage in content. Combined, these 2 anchors produce the most qualified and highest intense sports betters in the United States. Action's diverse revenue model includes a rapidly grown affiliate marketing business focused on customer acquisition for betting operators in the U.S. as well as subscription products anchored by Action Pro, Action Labs and Fantasy Labs. I'm truly looking forward to present the performance of Action in the coming quarters. And as our team said, there are only 17 days to the NFL kickoff. Please turn to Page 20. We have now reached the end of our Q2 presentation. Please turn to the next page and I'll walk you through our takeaways for Q2. Q2 delivered strong performance with a record high revenue and a record-high number of new depositing customers. In Q2, we saw a real breakthrough as our media partnerships delivered more than 38,000 new depositing customers, while we also landed 3 new media partnerships. Additionally, I would like to mention that we currently are preparing for more of such partnerships. I'm particularly proud of welcoming Action to the BC Group, and I'm happy to see how the 2 organizations already have created an infinite pool of knowledge and industry know-how. Looking to the U.S., we saw an unexpectedly strong growth during the quarter, and we predict an even stronger growth followed by many more opportunities in the U.S. affiliation business. I'm happy to see that the momentum in regulatory developments all over the world currently are favoring our business, and as such, will enable us to power Better Collective's future growth. Q2 has indeed been a fast paced and game-changing quarter, and I would like to thank all employees across the group who again have raised the bar for performance, which lays the foundation for a promising and exciting future for Better Collective. This concludes our webcast presentation for Q2 2021. And I'll now pass the word back to the operator and open for questions from the audience. Thanks for listening in.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We are taking our first question from the line of Erik Moberg at ABG.

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Erik Moberg
Research Analyst

Just to start off on the trading update. I mean given the dynamics with the sports calendar and the year-over-year comps, the July performance should come as no surprise to anyone. And you also reiterated your full year guidance. But could you just perhaps explain the dynamics you foresee for the remaining part of the quarter when it comes to activity levels?

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

Yes. And as you rightly point out that in July, we had a very low sports win margin. And on the comparison, we had the postponement of tournaments last year, leading to quite a lot of activity in July last year, which we didn't see to the same extent this year. Now sort of here in August, we have all the leagues running again and activity levels coming up. So there will be a pickup in the quarter and especially September with the start of the NFL will benefit our U.S. business a lot. And then finally, sort of in terms of activity levels, Q4 will be the main quarter with full sports in both Europe and the U.S.

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Erik Moberg
Research Analyst

Understood. And just to get a better sense of the underlying performance, is it possible to sort of give an indication of if you sort of normalize the sportsbook margins, how much you grew in July then?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes. I think on the sportsbook margin, if we sort of look to historical average, we are looking in revenue terms, between EUR 1.5 million and EUR 2 million lower because of the margin itself.

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Erik Moberg
Research Analyst

Okay. Understood. All right. And on the European side of the business, just curious to get a better understanding on Germany and how it developed during Q2. And also, what do you see there for Q3 and Q4? And whether or not we should expect Q2 to be the low point here when it comes to contribution from Germany?

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

I think that it's important to understand there is, of course, a pretty big change in the way that we can monetize now that we've crossed the 1st of July. So on new players, we were not able to work on revenue share anymore. So that is being shifted to CPA, still with ongoing conversations as to how we can actually build new potential models of partnership, which is more related to actually the performance of players. But that's ongoing conversations also but depending on the regulators in the German market. But our assets are still sort of from a traffic perspective, they are strong and very powerful in the German market. So we see a lot of traffic. We have strong rankings. So in terms of the product we can offer to our partners, it's still great, and we experienced a strong demand. But as I said, the models are being shifted due to the change in legislation.

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Erik Moberg
Research Analyst

Got it. And in regards to the Netherlands, this will obviously be a tailwind for Q4. Could you perhaps just give your thoughts on what you expect from this market, both in terms of the underlying affiliate market in itself as well as what sort of position into grab?

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

Yes. So it's going to be very interesting with Holland because of the starting 1st of October. It will be sort of a slow start because there will be approximately 6 or 7 operators getting a head start. And then 6 months later, we'll see more operators coming into the market. But what we know is that affiliation will be available from day 1, and that is what we are preparing for. It's a market, especially on the sports betting side, where we think there will be really a land grabbing because very few players, they hold and have been able to hold accounts with private operators. So we're doing our utmost to be ready with our products and services in the Dutch market. And we view that long term as a big opportunity for Better Collective and that it should also have a short-term impact.

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Erik Moberg
Research Analyst

Understood. And on the U.S., I mean we all understand the potential here that lies ahead, and we -- and expect a further ramp-up now when we're embarking on the peak season for U.S. sports. But it would be interesting to get a sense on what you see when it comes to demand for more mature markets such as New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

What we have experienced this year, I would say is very positive about New Jersey, where there is strong growth in that market. So based on market numbers, as I recall, we were at more than 40% growth year-on-year in New Jersey in the early months sort of not affected by COVID-19. And it's a similar picture that we see in our business that New Jersey performs well. We have the partnership with NJ.com and that is performing very well. So there's really no signs that we should view the early states that regulated as mature states. They are still growing quite rapidly.

Operator

We are taking our next question from the line of [ Galmer Albert ] at Redeye.

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Unknown Analyst

Maybe first a question on the inclusion of Action Network and the cost base there, just to understand how to look at this for Q3. So you had the personnel and other costs basically included for 1 month. So basically, the increase from Q1 to Q2, you should take that times 3 to get through Q3 level. Is that a similar -- is that a fair approach, you would say?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

If I understood the question correctly, we have -- as you said, we have only included Action with 1-month performance in this, you can say, low season basically, EUR 1.8 million, and as we say, with 0 profit. Action is, you can say, forecasted to turn profitable and as we have also communicated later this year going into the high season of Q3. So we expect to see strong growth in Action and also when it comes to profitability. So that has been -- is the business case we're looking into. And of course, also fueled by the fact that the U.S. board, as Jesper mentioned, starts the high season here in -- with the preseason in late August and then, of course, with the NFL starting in September. So we expect growth from here.

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Unknown Analyst

Got it. And maybe a follow-up kind of on the seasonality for U.S. and Action Network. As you said that U.S. was outperforming your expectations. I guess, I mean, you had a $40 million guidance for Action for 2021. And I guess, Q1 was a strong quarter for them, then Q2 a little lower and then Q3 and Q4 should be higher. If you look at the seasonality, is that correctly understood?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

I think you cannot look at Action as sort of a linear case. It is an asset that is -- that we have acquired and, you can say, where they are supposed to be on a strong growth trajectory from here. So you're right that the -- of course, the seasonality favors Q1 and Q4, and to some extent, in Q3. But Action in itself, I mean, is an asset that is fundamentally growing and has been on a growth trajectory. So it's -- we don't expect it to be sort of a linear case.

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Unknown Analyst

Got it. And regarding the media partnerships, looks to yield really nice numbers in terms of NDCs. Could you give any indication of how the commercial terms for these partnerships look?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Sorry, on the conversion -- commercial terms?

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Unknown Analyst

Yes. Is it like -- do they get the revenue share from you? Or how does that work?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes. I mean it is so that Better Collective holds all the relationship with the operators. So all the accounts basically are managed and owned by Better Collective. And depending on which media partnership it is, we either pay a fixed fee or if pending performance, we also share some of the revenue. So we have not given the exact commercial details for each partnership for competitive reasons, but they are organized in that way.

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Unknown Analyst

Got it. And maybe just the last question on if you compare the Publishing business and Paid Media. You are transforming the Paid Media core revenue share and the EBITDA margin is a bit lower. Longer term, would you expect similar profitability in the 2 segments? Or will it always kind of be a bit lower in the Paid Media segment?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

You can say, by nature, it is a lower-margin business in Paid Media because of the high acquisition cost. So it is a quite different business model. So I mean we would aim to get back to the 15%, 20%. Also, you can say, when revenue share starts to be more meaningful, you saw an uplift in the margin in Q2 from Q1. So we are starting to see some effect from the revenue share databases. But the Publishing, with the organic traffic, clearly normally would have a much higher profitability and you can also see that historically.

Operator

We are taking our next question from the line of Erik Lindholm at Nordea.

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Erik Lindholm-Rojestal

So I guess looking at your full year targets here, I mean, the revenues need to be almost 40% higher for the coming months compared to July and the rest of the year in order to meet sort of the target of EUR 180 million. I guess what gives you confidence that you can reach this level. And do you think there's any risk that you need to lower those targets?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes. Of course, if you take July, it is the absolute low month of the year. So we certainly don't expect that to be the normal and that is normally not the case. We have tried to give some flavor as to the comparison towards last year, which was -- there was some, I can say, Q4 lows and high in July. But clearly, now we are moving into the higher season and especially Q4 is normally our peak season. And also adding to that, as mentioned earlier, the growth in -- continued growth in U.S. and especially Action is also, you can say, built into the forecast. So that's the expectation and we don't expect to make any changes to the guidance.

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Erik Lindholm-Rojestal

Perfect. The Paid Media business, it's had a bit slightly lower revenues sequentially compared to Q1. Is this mainly an effect of seasonality? Or is there any other drivers behind this?

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

We mentioned we have seen a few headwinds in the business to mention, one is that we experienced a customer in the U.K., that due to regulatory effects on that particular customer, had to reduce the spend with us. And at the same time, we're also managing from the margin perspective to sort of control short-term margin not too much at the expense of long term. So it's that balance was striking. And with the few headwinds in the first half of the year, we sort of -- we moved further a bit from the gas pedal in Q2. But now we are actually -- especially in July, felt that we're regaining momentum for the paid business and look optimistically at the second half of that segment.

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Erik Lindholm-Rojestal

All right. Perfect. So you expect a sequential improvement here in Q3 in Paid Media then, I guess?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes, we expect continued growth. It is so that also when we do Paid Media campaigns initially, they are costly to run. And when we sort of have a grip of a new campaign or a new market, then we optimize the commercial terms with our partners and basically demonstrate the value of the traffic. So it is a bit, you can say, when we are growing the business initially, it comes at an expense. And then once it's manageable, then we give it more speed. So we expect growth also in the Paid Media going forward in second half, definitely.

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Erik Lindholm-Rojestal

Perfect. And then I guess, this update to search engines, as you mentioned, favors branded assets mainly. I mean I guess this is a long-term trend that's positive for you guys. But has this, I mean, just started to have a positive impact? Or is this more something you see sort of accelerating going forward?

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

And there's no doubt that looking at the last 12 months, that development is ongoing. And as said, we have assets that are better benefiting from this. We also have the media partnerships where we believe that they are being favored by this. We also have sort of a commercial part of the business that has been slightly negative impacted. But overall, and long term, this is a positive development for us on a net basis.

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Erik Lindholm-Rojestal

Perfect. And then, I guess, the increase here in operating expenses compared to Q2 last year. Is this mainly an effect of sort of temporary cost coverage savings coming back now and then also Action Network being included, of course? Or is there any driver behind the increase in operating expenses here year-over-year?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

I think comparing to the same quarter last year is almost -- yes, it doesn't make any sense because we basically cut a lot of cost because of the lower activity in Q2. It's perhaps more relevant compared to the previous quarters, Q4 and Q1, where we have seen a moderate growth in the cost base again. We have communicated that for Publishing, we want to be at above 40% EBITDA margin. And in the previous quarters, we were actually above 50% . And that's slowly coming back where we are investing again with -- when we have seen the revenue base coming back with strong growth. So that's basically it. But it has been, you can say, quite moderate growth of cost in Publishing from Q1 and a bit of reduction actually in Paid Media netting out. The rest of the cost increases come from acquisitions of Atemi and also now with 1 month of Action.

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Erik Lindholm-Rojestal

All right. And I guess a final question here. So just on July, I mean, many operators have actually seen quite a strong sportsbook margin in the last game of the Euro 2020. Can you elaborate a bit more on why sort of the sportsbook margin was low for you guys? And yes, have you seen any change here into August?

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

Yes, we can't really like the numbers we see and also get from the operators were not good for July. So to be honest, it's a bit hard for us to comment on that because it was a low sports win margin for us in the revenue share accounts in July. And like -- we don't comment on August since it's, yes, it is still ongoing.

Operator

There are no more questions on the line. Please continue.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

We also have some questions online. The first question coming from Matthias Bart. Raketech recently announced the acquisition of Onlinecricketbetting.net, India's biggest affiliate asset targeting cricket. How do you review the Indian market and especially the higher potential in the cricket vertical? Best regard, Matthias. I think we look globally at attractive markets and sports. And as the question alludes to, cricket is a big global sport, and obviously, therefore, of interest to us. So fundamentally, it's a market where we would like to get involved long term. The next question from [ Thomas Best ]. The Q2 statements are all very impressive. However, the current stock rate outcome of today and year-to-date is a disaster. The shareholders' investments are significantly diluted. Can you explain further why should investors keep the hard-earned monies in your company? I myself is one of the largest shareholders in Better Collective together with my co-founder, Christian Rasmussen, and we fundamentally believe long term in the potential of Better Collective.

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Just to put the record right, I think we started at a share price of EUR 150. I haven't looked at it this morning, but it's a bit down. But year-to-date, actually, it's up. But of course, it's fluctuations that we are not, as a company, in any control of.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

The next question comes from [ Carlos Serene ]. Why 0 profit for Action? What was the revenue growth of Action? What is outlook for EBITDA margin of Action short and medium term?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes. Flemming here, I can take that. I can say Action is, as we have communicated earlier, it's a company that has, you can say, during its previous ownership come through, I can say, all the development and buildup of the business. Now this year, we are turning into profit. And you can say with second half, Action is expected to become a profitable business. You can say June is a low season for Action. But moving forward, we definitely have high expectations for that Action will be one of the strongest assets in the U.S. margin and basically performing on par even above the earning margins of the rest of the Publishing business in Better Collective.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

And the next question comes from [indiscernible]. In the longer term, i.e., 2025, what split would you like to have between revenue share, CPA and subscription services? I think ballpark figures would be revenue share of about 50%, potentially slightly higher, but about 50%. CPA around 30%, I would reckon, and subscription services then including also fixed fee selling for the remainder. And the next question from [ Carlos Serene ]. Where do the NDC revenue contribution of the Paid Media show up? If I understand the question in the right way, we have part of the revenue stemming from CPA payments, which is immediate. So include them immediately. But then we also have, to a growing extent, revenue share, which is over the lifetime of the players where we get monthly payments. And the next question, again from [indiscernible]. How much do you need to recruit in order to keep up with your growth pace? What is your view on BETCO's level of OpEx and scalability in the coming years?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes, I can try to answer that. We are basically scaling with growth. We are -- as we have communicated now for more than 3 years, we are very focused on maintaining an operational margin above 40% in the Publishing business. And that basically has, at least until now, allowed us to do the right investments in our technology and our brands. So I think, really, you can say the cost base is a reflection on also how we monitor growth in the business and scaling the business. You can say we have added both organically and through M&As, a lot of new talented employees to the company. So we definitely expect strong growth in the organization and also growing the top line and, of course, to some extent, the cost base will follow, but with the margin guidance that we have followed now for more than 3 years.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

And the next question from [indiscernible]. Following the large acquisitions, how are you working to retain the BETCO culture? Are you measuring employee satisfaction by Net Promoter Score or similar? We actually work a lot with sort of the integration of the different teams and bringing them together. And then on top of that, we have for both founders and directors in the various acquired businesses, we host summits where we bring them together in order to share best practices and really try to build the BETCO values into all employees and how we run the company. HR is being managed centrally from Copenhagen with sort of the practices that we then implement in most of the acquired businesses. There are a few on a stand-alone basis, for now Action an example of that. But long term, we work closely together to develop the HR practices and also fundamentally the values that Better Collective stands on together. And a question from [ Carlos Serene ]. Acquisition projects for the rest of the -- of this year. Acquisition is part of the strategy and that hasn't changed. So we have a dedicated team working with that, and we have a pipeline that we work with. Acquisition is, of course, opportunistic by nature. So timing is not something we can really comment on, but it is something we work on, on a daily basis basically. And the next question is from [indiscernible]. You raised EUR 145 million overnight to finance the acquisition of Action Network with a big discount in the marketplace at SEK 218. It seemed as too many short-term speculative investors got stocks, and afterwards, slaughtered your stock. What is your own comment on that? And what have you learned? Did you use the wrong broker?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes, I can try and answer that. It's, of course, not for us to speculate and be you can say what investors do with the stock when they buy it. We basically use advisers that we think are professional and good in this space. So it's difficult for us to comment on any individual investor's behavior afterwards. So what we have learned from, you can say, advisers and others is that we saw a quite normal picture. But of course, we, as also being shareholders, we also like to see share price increases. But I think we also have to even say manage the company's balance sheet, and we thought this was the right time to take in funds. So for us, it's more long-term thinking here.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

And a question again from [ Thomas Best ]. I previously submitted a question with regard to the stock market reaction of the quarterly results today. Would you kindly comment on future expectations for existing investors?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Again, it's not for us to comment on share price reactions. As we all know, we are also shareholders in the company. Management Board are pretty big shareholders, management are the biggest shareholders in the company. So we also expect our value to increase as we have seen over time. We will, of course, see volatility and ups and downs as all companies. But I don't think we can give any guidance for how the share price will react and move in the future.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

And then a question again from [ Carlos Serene ]. Is there a different value for an NDC client from Paid Media compared to your old business? No, we actually expect, depending on the niche and geography that often paid acquired customers could be of higher value than Publishing, at least we know to a more granular level what the value of such players are. And again from [ Carlos Serene ]. Your capital placements in 2020 and 2021 have been very poor. Why? What can you do to improve for future placement success? I think the one in 2020 was actually not -- it was a secondary sale by Christian and myself predominantly in a secondary transaction where at least now the share price is still significantly higher than when was sold and Flemming has already commented on the most recent one. And a question from [ Florienne Liante ]. Would you please explain why the cash flow increased only 7% while EBITDA increased over 90%, how to explain this weak cash conversion?

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes, it's a good question. It's actually not a weak cash conversion. But for the last year, we had in Q2 an exceptional cash conversion due to the COVID lockdowns where a lot of, you can say, first and foremost, accounts receivable went down significantly with revenue. And also, there was a lot of payments that were, you can say, postponed by law. So it is not really a good thing to compare the 2 quarters, I would say, this quarter, it's normalized. Last year, it was really an abnormal situation where we had an exceptional high cash conversion because of the COVID situation.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

Yes. I think to give an example, we had postponement of tax payments from various states.

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Flemming Pedersen
CFO & Executive VP

Yes, yes. And of course, the revenue down, reducing accounts receivable. So this time, this quarter is normal. Last year was abnormal.

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Jesper Sogaard
Co

And that was the last question. Thank you very much for listening in, and have a nice day.

Operator

That concludes the call for today. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.