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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q2

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Operator

Welcome to the Second Quarter 2021 Results Conference Call for Canadian Utilities Limited. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn you over -- turn the conference over to Mr. Colin Jackson, Senior Vice President, Finance, Treasury, Risk and Sustainability.

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Colin Jackson;SVP, Finance, Treasury, Risk and Sustainability

[Audio Gap ] 2021 conference call. With me today is Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Dennis DeChamplain; and CU Inc.'s Senior Vice President, Finance and Regulatory; Brian Shkrobot. Dennis will begin today with some opening comments on recent company developments and our financial results. Following his prepared remarks, we will take questions from the investment community. Please note that a replay of the conference call and a transcript will be available on our website at canadianutilities.com and can be found in the Investors section under the heading events and presentations. I'd like to remind you that all our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are subject to important risks and uncertainties. For more information on these risks and uncertainties, please see the reports filed by the Canadian utilities with the Canadian securities regulators.And finally, I'd also like to point out that during this presentation, we may refer to certain non-GAAP measures, such as adjusted earnings, adjusted earnings per share, funds generated by operations and capital investment. These measures do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS, and as a result, they may not be comparable to similar measures presented in other entities. And now I'll turn the call over to Dennis for his opening remarks.

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Good morning, everyone. Thank you all very much for joining us today on our second quarter 2021 conference call. Canadian Utilities achieved adjusted earnings of $115 million or $0.43 per share in the second quarter of 2021. This is $21 million or $0.09 per share higher than the second quarter of last year. The $21 million of growth in our earnings was primarily driven by strong performance in our Puerto Rico LUMA business, our Australian natural gas utility and our Canadian distribution utilities. Our Australian natural gas utility benefited from a rising CPI, which continued to trend upwards towards a more stable level during the second quarter. Economic activity in Western Australia has also improved in 2021, with mining activity, in particular, looking strong coming out of the pandemic. We're optimistic that these trends will continue through the remainder of 2021 and create momentum coming out of the pandemic.In Puerto Rico, we marked a significant milestone on June 1 with the successful completion of the 1-year transition period, which, on top of being completed ahead of schedule, it involves countless regulatory, operational, safety, financial planning and readiness activities. Following the successful transition, LUMA assumed 4 operation of the electricity transmission and distribution system, under a supplemental agreement. We will operate under the supplemental agreement until such time that PREPA has concluded its bankruptcy proceedings, at which point will move directly into the 15-year operating agreement.Since commencing our work in Puerto Rico, there have been challenges, some of which have been covered in the local media. And as with any undertaking of this scale, there will always be challenges and resistance to change, but we remain committed. We'll be putting our heads down and working to meet our commitments to all stakeholders, including the people of Puerto Rico.On the regulatory front, we have continued to gain more progress on prospectivity with several decisions received in the quarter. In mid-June, the AUC issued its decision on the ATCO gas transmission application to acquire the Pioneer pipeline. The commission ruled favorably and approved the application is filed. AUC also approved our application to transfer the 30 kilometer Western segment of the Pioneer pipeline to Nova gas transmission as this segment is located within NGTL service area. NGTL is awaiting approval from the Canadian energy regulator, and the transfer is expected to close in the fourth quarter of this year.Further direction on the 2023 cost of service application process for the Alberta distribution utilities was also received in June and came in largely in line with our expectations. Applications from both our electricity and natural gas distribution companies will be filed in the fourth quarter of this year. Following the 1-year 2023 cost of service period, the AUC has also approved a third PBR term to commence in 2024. A generic proceeding will be initiated in the third quarter of 2022 to outline the parameters of this third PBR cycle, including a review of the term, capital funding provisions, inflation and productivity factors and consideration of an earnings sharing mechanism.In terms of capital investment, we invested $430 million in our business in the second quarter of 2021. Of this $430 million, $412 million was invested in our core utility businesses to ensure the continued generation of stable earnings and reliable cash flows. This investment does include the Pioneer pipeline acquisition that I noted earlier.In our energy infrastructure businesses, we continue to invest in our clean energy strategy in the second quarter, exploring opportunities in both the renewable energy generation and clean fuel streams of the strategy, including our recently announced collaboration with Suncor to pursue a world-class hydrogen production facility in Alberta. In line with this clean energy strategy, I wanted to highlight that we released our 2020 sustainability report in May of this year, which included key information on how we're positioning our business for a lower emissions future. Notably, this report highlighted the 90% reduction in scope on emissions that we achieved against 2019 through the sale of our fossil fuel generating business, along with the 17% reduction we've achieved since 2019 in our retained portfolio.Hydrogen, a clean fuel that is part of our larger clean energy strategy will play a critical role in affordably decarbonizing the production and delivery of heat to our customers. Amongst other benefits, it has the potential to utilize existing pipeline infrastructure, which will greatly reduce the transition time and costs necessary to move closer to a lower emissions world. We believe that hydrogen will become an important source of revenue and profitability for Canadian utilities into the future, and that's why we've continued to take steps to maximize our presence in this market globally.In early May, we announced our plans to develop Western Australia's first commercial scale green hydrogen production facility called the Clean Energy Innovation Park in association with our joint venture partner, the Australian Gas Infrastructure Group. This project leverages the learnings from our clean Energy Information hub in Australia, which was focused on investigating the potential role of hydrogen in Australia's future energy mix and has been successfully blending hydrogen into our gas system in Australia. Not only is the clean Energy Innovation Park, a significant step forward for commercial hydrogen in Australia and for our own aspirations in the hydrogen market. We have also been successful in securing AUD29 million in funding from the Australian Renewable Energy Agency, referred to as Arena to kickstart this initiative. With the planned 10-megawatt electrolyzer, the park will be capable of producing 4.6 tons of hydrogen per day and will utilize renewable power from an existing co-located 180 megawatt wind farm. The park will also help related storage infrastructure and provide delivery to natural gas system injection points.In May, we announced that we are working with Suncor to design a clean hydrogen production facility at ATCO's Heartland Energy Center near Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta. This world-class project is expected to produce more than 300,000 tons per year of clean hydrogen and reduce Alberta's CO2 emissions by more than 2 million tonnes per year. This hydrogen project with Suncor will significantly advance Alberta's hydrogen strategy and Canada's net 0 ambitions as a whole, generating substantial economic activity and creating jobs in the process. While it remains early days for this project, and there is significant technical development work to do. We're working with the provincial and federal governments to ensure that sufficient support structures are in place for a project at this scale to be successful.I also want to take a minute to highlight our recently announced renewable natural gas or RNG development with future fuel limited that is located near Two Hills, Alberta, which is about 1.5 hour drive just Eastern Edmonton. The facility will utilize organic and agriculture waste from nearby communities to produce approximately 230,000 gigajoules per year of RNG. This is enough renewable natural gas to fuel 2,500 homes and will lead to the avoidance of up to 20,000 tons per year of CO2 equivalent emissions. While the scale is much smaller than the hydrogen opportunity we discussed a couple of minutes ago, this project and others like it that we intend to explore in the near-term are critical to our larger clean fuel strategy. This project serves as a blueprint for other rapidly executable projects and will provide near-term earnings and cash flows to support the ongoing development of our larger and longer lead hydrogen initiatives.And lastly, I wanted to mention ATCO Energy's June launch of Rumi. An innovative start-up aimed at providing homeowners with solutions for everyday household challenges by connecting them with trusted professionals. Rumi offers smart home technology products and repair and maintenance services to the Calgary and Edmonton markets in addition to a wealth of general home management advice. All in all, Canadian utilities carried the momentum from the first quarter of 2021 into a strong second quarter, and we'll continue to push hard heading into the second half of this year. That does conclude my prepared remarks, and I'll now turn the call back over to Colin.

Operator

Our first call comes from Maurice Choy, RBC Capital Market.

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Maurice Choy
MD & Analyst

My first question relates to all the clean energy initiatives that you've announced. Obviously, you've got the hydro that you previously announced in Australia, the renewables in Chile, RNG in Alberta as well as the hydrogen production facilities that may come online in Alberta and Australia. If you were to draw a spectrum of returns and compare these initiatives against perhaps the 8.5% base allow ROE you get for Alberta regulated utilities. How would that spectrum look like? And how would you rank these initiatives?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Maurice, I hope you're staying safe. Yes, the utility returns would be, we'll say, at the far left of the spectrum with the lowest risk and therefore, the lowest return. The other projects that you've outlined, be maybe I should check that. Right now, we're seeing solar returns, returns for solar projects coming in lower than in the utility returns right in around that area in terms of an equity return on equity returns. The other projects, we really do need to look at them on a project-by-project basis. Our method of operating, we prefer long contracted assets with credible counterparties, also with partnering with like-minded firms that share our values as we go to derisk the investments. I can't tell you for certain, whether the Central West pump hydro would be more or less risky than the hydrogen project, it depends on the long-term contracted outputs, the inputs, what kind of backstops you may have from counterparties and what have you. But we do -- because of the additional risks, those returns are north of the utility returns, let's say, kind of somewhat obvious. But I'm not prepared to get into specific returns for specific projects due to commercial reasons.

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Maurice Choy
MD & Analyst

That's fair enough. Maybe as a follow-up to that, would it be fair to say that you wouldn't enter into these initiatives after considering the government funding or subsidies that you may receive, that you wouldn't enter into these initiatives unless it's at least in line, if not better than the Alberta returns, again, recognizing that you do outperform in Alberta as well?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Well, we need to take a look at the projects. We -- as we scan the environment, the utilities, I'm going to say, are at the far left of the spectrum. So if we can't completely derisk it down to the utility level, then yes, we would be expecting higher returns. But you do hit on a good point of kind of the approved return versus the achieved returns coming out of our utilities, which we do take into account as well.

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Maurice Choy
MD & Analyst

So when you look at your far left of the spectrum, is that the 8.5%? Or is the 8.5% plus outperformance?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

There's a range there depending. You know the -- given the regulatory resets and what we have achieved over the last decade of north of 200 basis points outperformance. We get asked what are you going to do for me next year? And how are you going to restock those saving shelves? We do continue to outperform. It's a challenge to management, and the teams do a great job of doing it. So I'll say we do bank on some outperformance. And the exact amount, I'll say, we don't have an exact amount. And it's a bit of a range given the regulatory pressures and our views going forward.

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Maurice Choy
MD & Analyst

Understood. And then my second question, maybe take a few years forward into the Suncor clean hydrogen project that you're considering. Could you -- if you were to FID this later this decade, could you help us understand roughly what type of investment your share would be? And would you consider bringing on a partner alongside yourselves and Suncor?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Well, never say never with another partner. We do think between ourselves and Suncor, we have the capacity and the skills required in order to execute the project. Suncor brings hydrogen production experience, large project management experience. We're in the storage and piping business. So we believe that we have the capability required and the capacity required to do the project on our own. In terms of capital costs and economic return details, I mean, those are still being worked out. Given that it's a world-class scale, there's great long-term potential for the project, and we're continuing to work through those details.

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Maurice Choy
MD & Analyst

I guess would it be fair to look at the balance sheet capacity that you have, in particular, using the proceeds from the recent asset sales. Would you say that what you have today is enough to fund these and all the other initiatives that you've announced so far?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Yes. We've looked at the stacking of opportunities, and we wouldn't have pursued the hydrogen production facility with Suncor. If we didn't have the ability to pursue the financial capacity and ability to proceed with it. And we've been, I think, relatively clear on our strategy with regards to clean fuels and renewable energy. The pace and Quantum can flux with opportunities. But we do have that capacity to execute on all the initiatives in our strategy.

Operator

Our next call comes from Andrew Kuske, Credit Suisse.

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Andrew M. Kuske

Maybe I'll start with a narrow question first. And obviously, we're seeing some pretty robust inflation numbers around the world and various regions is a bit different. But could you maybe just address any near-term positive impacts you have from the inflation data, just by way of the regulatory mechanisms you have? And then the flip side of that is, are you experiencing any cost pressures in any of your assets?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Sure. Maybe I'll start, and then I'll ask Brian. Shkrobot, who heads up the finance and regulatory from Celink to talk about the Alberta utilities. I mean, we are seeing the positive impacts from the inflation in Australia. Last year, I think we had recorded in the first 6 months, about to 0.3% in inflation. And this year, it's been 1% inflation. So that additional 70 bps accounts for about $7 million in adjusted earnings coming out of Australia. So a great benefit in terms of the adjusted earnings coming from Australia. We do see cost pressures in Australia along a lengthening of some lead times in order to get materials, pipe, in particular, into Perth to execute on our projects. But that -- it's all very manageable right now. The other elements will maybe turn it over to Brian for some color on the Alberta regulatory environment and impacts on PBR under costs, Brian?

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Brian. P. Shkrobot

Yes. Thank you, Dennis. Thanks, Andrew, for your question. Yes, as Dennis mentioned in Alberta, we do the PBR mechanisms for the distribution utilities adjust for inflation so to the extent that we have higher inflation, that gets adjusted into future rates. That said, similar to Australia, we are seeing some inflationary pressures on our materials, but not too significant, very manageable. We have really long -- good long-term relationships with our suppliers. We're not seeing any issues in terms of getting that material at reasonable rates, continue to monitor through that, but nothing of significance to Alberta for the inflation at this time.

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Andrew M. Kuske

For a second question, a little bit different. It really relates to PREPA. And you've Dennis you mentioned this in your prepared remarks, just a bit of the resistance change that's been documented and that you're committed to making the situation there better. And not to belittle the dynamics are as difficult, but you're very capable. And I'm not trying to be patronizing about this because you've got a very extensive track record of doing these kinds of things. But is this just a function of time to win hearts and minds? And just delivering what you promised to deliver on the front end in a very public process through the whole dynamics around PREPA and how you wind up with the contract.

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

If you look at the vested interests in PREPA for us going in and I'll say, versus what's in the hearts and minds of the people of Puerto Rico, I think there's general consensus overwhelming consensus that a transformational change is required. There was a JP power customer satisfaction survey and out of 50 companies, PREPA was number 50, and they had a heck of a long way to get to number 49 on the list. And that wasn't any of the, call it, the stakeholders with the vested interests in PREPA. That was the customers. And that's been our focus going in, winning the hearts and minds of customers. We had -- there was a large fire on June 11. It knocked out about 1 million customers. We had them all back online within 26 hours, I think, just over a day. And I know you weren't belittling at all in your comments. But the way our teams worked through it and the methodical, safe, efficient manner. It just exudes that operational excellence and the pride that we have in the people down in LUMA, some of the management stocked from Quanta and from ATCO and the boots on the ground coming from ex PREPA employees was just wonderful to see. We're not out of the woods yet. There's a lot of work to do. But as we continue to perform and execute, we hope the public sentiment will help turn the vested interests and the noise will quieten down and let us get on with giving the Puerto Ricans the electrical system that they deserve in the years coming forward.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mark Jarvi, CIBC Capital Markets.

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Mark Thomas Jarvi
Director of Institutional Equity Research

I wanted to start with RNG, and you talked about sort of an announcement earlier a couple of months ago or last quarter. I don't believe that initiative will be sending the RNG and renewable natural gas into your own utility and those to some other customers. Just curious when you think you'll start to introduce RNG into your own gas distribution utility in Alberta, what you need to see from regulators and policy before you can start to make those types of investments and integrate insuring utility?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

One of the elements that we're pursuing with the government in relation to hydrogen, but it's also applicable to RNG. Right now, the gas Utilities Act does not allow for or permit the injection of clean fuels in order to lower the CO2 impact compared to natural gas. We are working with the provincial government in order to try to get them to amend the GUA in order to allow for that. All of the discussions so far have been very receptive and have gone in a very positive nature. I ask afterwards, Brian, if you've got anything to add, you're closer to that than I am. But that's what we need in order to inject that blending up to potentially 20% to help lower the emissions for our customers.

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Brian. P. Shkrobot

I'll Just to add on, yes, the provincial government is we are working with them directly, and they're very open to it. It's in the works per se in terms of allowing the hydrogen or RNG into our systems. That said, we've also introduced new producer rates that would also facilitate the connection of the RNG into our system. So we've laid the foundations there, and we expect in short order to have those approvals.

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Mark Thomas Jarvi
Director of Institutional Equity Research

And then would you envisage yourself being a producer yourself or some part of can you tell is ATCO in terms of supply of RNG? Or is it more likely to go to third parties?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

No. We are investing in RNG production as part of our clean fuels initiative. The first project out of the hopper is the Two Hills RNG project, a 230,000 GJs. But that would be -- because of the small capital costs and associated earnings impact, we're looking to build a portfolio of the RNG production facilities in Alberta and also outside of Alberta, our customers are looking to help decarbonize on their efforts. So -- and that's not just in Alberta.

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Mark Thomas Jarvi
Director of Institutional Equity Research

Got it. And then I wanted to go into the segments a little bit. One is about corporate you brought up for Rumi a new initiative that you've launched. Is there any upfront costs noting mindful of might be a bit of a drag in the next few quarters as you start to build that? And then the second, it looks like the ATCO Energy business seems to be turning forward here and doing well and contributing. Is there anything special about the contribution in this quarter, Q2 or seasonality?Or do you think that, that contribution seems to have a positive impact this quarter should persist.

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

For the first part, is there going to be any drag from Rumi? No, we don't see the -- much of a drag. We're continuing to expand our products and services into, first, the Edmonton and Calgary markets. Should it go -- should it be successful? Yes, it's successful, we could be looking to expand that outside of the -- of Alberta borders. So there's a potential there. So there may be some costs, but that's -- there's nothing in the near-term that would -- that should impact the corporate results, the results in Q2 and year-to-date for ATCO Energy buried in the corporate segment. There's nothing unusual or onetime nature in those results that would cause that to be blip or we're looking for continued performance at ATCO energy as they continue to build their market share here in Alberta.

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Mark Thomas Jarvi
Director of Institutional Equity Research

Last one is just on the Alberta distribution to the gas and electric seem to have fairly strong results year-over-year improvements. There was a mention for the gas about some timing of costs. Is that sort of a retrospective or is that that you deferred some costs that will show up next quarter? And then on the electric side, is that just stronger industrial load as activity picks up in the oil and gas space? Or is there sort of a weather factor there around residential rolls in the quarter?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Yes. In terms of gas, and then I'll -- I don't know the answer to the second question, so I'm going to pump that one over to Brian to. In terms of gas, that's in your timing. So there's some expenses in the first half of the year that we expect to incur in the second half of the year. So there's -- that's the timing that we're referring to. And Brian, on your -- on the load for the first bit weather impacts?

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Brian. P. Shkrobot

Yes. Just on electric and growth in earnings at in Canada it's mainly driven by the continued operating efficiencies that we have implemented over the years, and we continue to see the compounding effects of those benefits. As for the load, yes, we do see strong growth in our customers. We are not impacted by weather per se too much, but it's really driven by strong customer growth and again, mainly due to the cost efficiencies and programs that our people have implemented for the benefit of customers and shareholders over the years.

Operator

Our next question comes from Matthew Weekes IA Capital Markets.

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Matthew Weekes
Equity Research Associate

I was just looking for a little bit of clarification. So you talked about economic growth. [Technical Difficulty]

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Sorry, Matthew, we're having extreme difficulty hearing you. [Technical Difficulty] Now I can't hear you at all.

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Matthew Weekes
Equity Research Associate

Sorry, can you hear me better now?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

Much better. Thank you, Matthew. Sorry, about that.

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Matthew Weekes
Equity Research Associate

So yes, I was just wondering if you'd be able to comment on kind of separating what the impact in the quarter was from the settlement that occurred in the Australian gas business, which was mentioned in the MD&A as providing a tailwind versus recovering economic growth and inflation.

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

I mean we talked about it a little bit earlier with regards to inflation when I was answering Andrew's question, the impact from inflation in the first half of the year is about $7 million uplift on the results due to CPI. But the settlement that we had related to back when we bought ATCO gas Australia, which it just happens to be the 10th anniversary today that we acquired Western Australia gas network or wagon. That settlement added about $2 million to the Q2 results for Australia. And that's included in those results, and that gives you most of the uplift in Australia's earnings.

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Matthew Weekes
Equity Research Associate

Okay. So it doesn't sound like it was really too material overall?

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Dennis A. DeChamplain
Executive VP & CFO

No. They're continuing to perform and execute. And the -- as I referred to in my opening comments, the economic activity is really picking up there. And we've got -- for now, being able to manage the impact of inflation on their performance. So they're continuing to perform extremely well.

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Colin Jackson for any closing remarks.

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Colin Jackson;SVP, Finance, Treasury, Risk and Sustainability

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for participating today. We appreciate your interest in Canadian Utilities, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon. Thank you, and goodbye.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.