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Earnings Call Transcript

Earnings Call Transcript
2021-Q3

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Operator

Thank you for standing by and this it the confidence operator. Welcome to the Third Quarter 2021 Results Conference Call for Canadian Utilities Limited. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Colin Jackson, Senior Vice President, Finance, Treasury, Risk and Sustainability. Please go ahead, Mr. Jackson.

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Colin R. Jackson

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. We're pleased you could join us for the Canadian Utilities Third Quarter 2021 Conference Call. With me today is Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Brian Shkrobot; and Executive Vice President, Corporate Development; Bob Myles. Bob leads Canadian Utilities Nonregulated Energy infrastructure business. Brian will begin today with some opening comments on recent company developments and our financial results, followed by an overview of our energy infrastructure business and our energy transition strategy from Bob. Following these prepared remarks, we will questions from the investment community. Please note that a replay of the conference call and a transcript will be available on our website at canadianutilities.com and can be found in the Investors section under the heading Events & Presentations. I'd like to remind you all that our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are subject to important risks and uncertainties. For more information on these risks and uncertainties, please see the reports filed by Canadian Utilities with the Canadian securities regulators. And finally, I'd also like to point out that during this presentation, we may refer to certain non-GAAP or other financial measures such as adjusted earnings, adjusted earnings per share, funds generated by operations and capital investment. These measures do not have any standardized meaning under IFRS, and as a result, they may not be comparable to similar measures presented in other entities. And now I'll turn the call over to Brian for his opening remarks.

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Thanks, Colin, and good morning, everyone. Thank you all very much for joining us today for our third quarter 2021 conference call. Canadian Utilities achieved adjusted earnings of $88 million or $0.33 per share in the third quarter of 2021. This is $12 million or $0.05 per share higher than the third quarter of 2020. This growth in the third quarter earnings was primarily driven by our LUMA Energy investment and continued strong performance from ATCO Gas Australia. As we highlighted in the second quarter, LUMA Energy assumed full operation of Puerto Rico's electricity transmission and distribution system under the supplemental agreement on June 1, 2021. As such, marks the first full quarter of operations for our LUMA Energy investment, driving significant earnings growth for us when compared to the third quarter of 2020. As a reminder, we will continue to operate under the 18-month supplemental agreement until such time that PREPA has concluded its bankruptcy proceedings. At which point, we will move directly into the previous executed 15-year operating agreement. While the specific timing for completion of these proceedings is difficult to predict, we continue to expect them to be completed in 2022 and before the completion of the existing 18-month supplemental agreement. Despite taking on operation of the Puerto Rico electricity transmission and distribution system only 5 short months ago, we have already made significant and tangible strides. System service quality has improved, safety performance has improved, and we've begun significant system maintenance and repair work, which will help support the long-term stability of the system. There have, however, also been challenges. For example, there have been a number of power outages, particularly in August and September, associated with the lack of sufficient electricity generation. We continue to remind everyone that LUMA is not responsible for electricity generation and that the generation of electricity is the responsibility of PREPA. PREPA has had a number of unplanned and forced outages that unfortunately has resulted in the loss of power to many of our customers. As with any undertaking of the scale, there will always be challenges and resistance to change, but we remain committed to putting our heads down and working to meet our commitments to all stakeholders especially the people of Puerto Rico. Moving on to Australia. Our natural gas utility continued to benefit from favorable inflation trends that we saw in the first half of 2021. This upward pressure in CPI, along with a cool and wet winter in Australia that saw natural gas demand rise resulted strong third quarter earnings from the business. On the regulatory front, we continue to gain more certainty and prospectivity heading into the end of the year. In September, the AUC issued its decision on the ATCO electric transmission 2020 to 2022 general tariff application. This decision sets Electricity Transmission's revenue requirements through 2022 and provide greater certainty for the business heading into the year. Shifting over to the Pioneer Pipeline. As outlined in our second quarter call, the commission ruled favorably and approved our acquisition of the line. The AUC also approved our application to transfer the 30-kilometer western segment of the Pioneer Pipeline to Nova Gas Transmission as this segment is located within NGTL service area. NGTL is waiting approval from the Canadian Energy Regulator to complete this transaction. We had originally expected this approval to be received in the fourth quarter of this year, but now I believe it's more likely to be received in the first quarter of 2022. We do not expect this delay to have an impact on ultimate approval nor will it impact our earnings or cash flows related to the Pioneer acquisition. In terms of capital investment, we invested $252 million in our business in the third quarter of '21. Of this $250 million, $217 million were invested in our core utility businesses to ensure the continued generation of stable earnings and reliable cash flows. In our energy infrastructure business, we continue to invest in our energy transition strategy in the third quarter. This included an announcement in the renewable natural gas space with our future fuels opportunity and the acquisition of development rights for 3 solar developments in Alberta, our Empress, Deerfoot and Barlow projects. As we see these developments through to completion and the commencement of operations in 2022, we will simultaneously exploring further opportunities in both renewable energy generation and clean fuel streams of our larger energy transition strategy. To speak more to the strategy and our energy infrastructure business overall, I'll turn the call over to Bob Myles. Executive President, Corporate Development.

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Robert J. Myles

Thank you, Brian, and good morning, everyone. As Brian indicated, energy transition is a key component of our growth strategy and the driving force behind many of our recent project announcements. Before I jump into the specifics of some of these recent announcements, I wanted to provide a quick overview of our energy transition strategy. This strategy can be broken down into 3 key components: renewable generation, clean fuels and energy storage. Overall, our energy transition strategy is focused on increasing Canadian Utilities prominence in the transition to cleaner, lower-emitting sources of energy as part of global decarbonization goals. This includes actively seeking out opportunities that capitalize on the key trends shaping global energy markets, notably decarbonization. Our knowledge and experience across the energy value chain and our strong commitment in corporate values provides us to drive value for our customers. As Brian alluded to in his capital discussion, we made significant progress on the renewable generation leg of this strategy in the third quarter with the announcement of 3 new solar developments. Once completed, these developments are expected to generate enough renewable electricity to power more than 29,000 homes and offset 111,000 tonnes of carbon a year. Acquiring these shovel-ready projects allows us to quickly execute on low-risk solar developments, establishing credibility with our customers and generating cash earnings starting in 2022. Collectively, these projects represent a significant step forward in the build-out of our renewable generation portfolio and more importantly will help our customers decarbonize their own operations through improved access to renewable energy in the Alberta market. While these specific investments are located in Alberta, our renewable generation strategy is global, and we continue to assess similar investments in other jurisdictions. Additionally, bite-sized and rapidly executable projects like these provide near-term earnings and cash flow growth while we continue to pursue larger and longer lead time initiatives including commercial scale hydrogen production. Shifting to the clean fuel component of our strategy, we continue to view hydrogen and renewable natural gas as critical players in the successful decarbonization of our energy system over the longer term. In addition to their primary emission reduction benefits, hydrogen and renewable natural gas have the potential to utilize existing natural gas infrastructure in North America, reducing both the time and cost requirements of decarbonization and the energy transition. Many of you will recall us speaking about our renewable natural gas project near Two Hills, Alberta. This facility will utilize organic and agricultural waste from nearby communities to produce approximately 230,000 gigajoules per year of RNG, enough renewable natural gas to fuel 2,500 homes. While the scale of this project is smaller than some of the hydrogen opportunities we're pursuing, and we'll discuss momentarily, this project and others like it are critical to our larger clean fuel strategy. It serves as a blueprint for other rapid executable projects in various jurisdictions and similar to our solar opportunities provides near-term earnings and cash flows to support the ongoing development of larger initiatives. Pushing further on to the horizon, we continue to advance our previously announced hydrogen projects in Canada and Australia. This includes both our near-term blending projects and the longer-term development of our hydrogen production facilities. While we can't provide specific details at this time, planning and early engineering for the development of our clean hydrogen production facility at ATCO's Heartland Energy Centre with Suncor continues to progress. We are also working closely with provincial and federal governments to explore de-risking opportunities for this project and to ensure that sufficient support structures are in place for a project of this scale to be successful. This project will significantly advance Alberta's hydrogen strategy in Canada's net zero ambitions as a whole. Once completed, this world-class project is expected to produce more than 300,000 tonnes per year of clean hydrogen and reduce Alberta's CO2 emissions by more than tonnes per year. In Australia, we continue to advance Western Australia's first commercial scale green hydrogen production facility in conjunction with our joint venture partner, Australian Gas Infrastructure Group, referred to as the Clean Energy Innovation Park. With the planned 10-megawatt electrolyzer, this part will be capable of producing up to 4.6 tonnes of hydrogen per day and will utilize renewable power from an existing co-located 180-megawatt wind farm. This park will also house related storage infrastructure and provide delivery to the natural gas system injection points and developing transportation and power applications. Lastly, I wanted to briefly touch on the importance of energy storage in our existing portfolio and our overall energy transition strategy. While energy storage is critical to the existing operations of our energy system, we believe its importance will grow as the world decarbonizes. Energy storage is a key piece of the puzzle as we look to develop industrial scale clean hydrogen. It supports the diversification of industry with province, including support for our critical petrochemical industry, and it helps support peaking electricity demand as intermittent renewables make up a larger and larger component of our generation systems. I'll now pass the call over to Brian for any final comments.

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Thank you, Bob. As these ongoing initiatives highlight decarbonization, not only for our operations, but for our customer operations through improved access to clean energy is a key growth area for our business. Across our segments, we're investing in projects now that allow us to further expertise and expand our market reach as energy transition objectives globally continue to mature. This will help us ensure that we continue to be leaders in the key energy spaces, including hydrogen and renewable natural gas and that we have a seat at the table on key energy transition topics moving forward. All in all, Canadian Utilities carried momentum from the first half of 2021 into a strong third quarter, and we'll continue to drive for top-tier performance as we look to close out the 2021 year. That concludes my prepared remarks, and I will now turn the call back to Colin.

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Colin R. Jackson

Thank you, Bob and Brian. [Operator Instructions] I will turn it back over to the conference coordinator now for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Maurice Choy with RBC Capital Markets.

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Maurice Choy
MD & Analyst

My first question is just picking up on the solar development projects. You've announced 3 so far. Can you help us quantify what the total construction cost is? And more broadly, as Bob has alluded to, there's obviously a wide-ranging amount of opportunities and transition. Is there a preferred level, let's call it, percentage of earnings that you like these renewables between fields as well as energy storage to represent in your total earnings?

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Thank you, Maurice, for your question. Maybe I'll start it off and I'll turn it over to Bob. As for capital investment, I think Bob would allude to that we're just in the stages of completing our -- more of our detailed engineering and assessments. And in the terms of earnings, as I mentioned before, we look to contract a good portion of our production out of these facilities. And that kind of alluded to the type of returns we're looking for. We're looking for stable earnings, less exposure to merchant. So when you look at our utility earnings in terms of risk levels, obviously, these solars might carry a little bit more risk. But with the merchant exposure low, again, it would be kind of comparable to what we would have in our utility space. And maybe with that, I'll turn it over to Bob just to give a little more details on the capital, where they're at in terms of the project execution and then kind of how that fits in the overall strategy.

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Robert J. Myles

Sure. Thanks, Brian, and thanks for that, Maurice. A couple of comments I'd make. One is just strategically, what we're trying to do is in our energy transition strategy is keep a balance between those 3 pillars, being energy storage, renewables and clean fuels. But the -- what we're seeing is that the size of our clean fuels, hydrogen projects are significantly more than in some of the other pillars. So we're going to see over the longer-term horizon, probably the earnings driven from our hydrogen projects will drive higher earnings just from the size of the projects. With regards to specifically on these solar projects, we're still in the development of our capital estimates. So we're still a ways away from finalizing that, but we're having pretty extensive discussions with off-takers for the solar power from these facilities. So it's been very, very encouraging discussions to date.

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Maurice Choy
MD & Analyst

And just to follow up on that question. So is there like a targeted mix between utilities and, let's call it, energy transition type investments that you're targeting over the long term?

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Yes. I guess in terms of targeting, we're looking to diversify, and then clean energy and energy transition is definitely part of our long-term growth strategy as we look to diversify. And we see, Bob mentioned in his opening remarks, there are significant opportunities for Canadian Utilities to play a lead role in the energy transition. And that -- I think what you see in the third quarter, some of the projects that have kicked off is just an example of us executing on that strategy. We have a number of bite-sized projects that are shovel-ready that, as Bob mentioned, is nicely fitting into the gap between our longer lead projects such as the hydrogen development and Central West Pumped Hydro. So it's a balance, and we'll be offered to be optimistic as well as opportunities arise. But again, other than the guidance to say that I think we would look to continue to expand the clean fuels and renewable energy part of our portfolio and have the proper balance between, I guess, long-term contracted opportunities, longer with that longer lead and green development projects.

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Maurice Choy
MD & Analyst

Understood. And maybe just to finish off, I suppose as I think about the vast opportunities that you obviously have, are you funding everything pretty much just on your balance sheet? Or are you seeking to say, recycle some of the capital in the assets? Or you finding other ways to fund this? Like how should I think about how big of a capital you seek to invest here?

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Yes. Great question. And in the short term, we'd look to kind of balance sheet finance these projects. But we would look to wrap it up later on with some other financing vehicles once we get some scale and look to project finance a good chunk of these projects. In the meantime, we'll -- we have ample cash balances to deploy to and credit facilities to fund the short-term nature, but yes, we would look to find financing vehicles that would kind of marry up with the long-term contractibility of these projects.

Operator

The next question comes from Ben Pham with BMO.

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Benjamin Pham
Analyst

One -- a couple of questions on the carbon project. Do you think the carbon opportunity in Alberta, the whole value chain, it's just going to be so robust that it's mostly a winner's market share situation, you expect winners and losers out of this? And how do you or someone else differentiate that project for setters?

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Yes. Great question, Ben. And maybe what I'll do is I'll pass that first question over to Bob.

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Robert J. Myles

Thanks, Ben. My views on that is I think there are significant opportunities in Alberta. But as we indicated in our announcement back in May with our partnership with Suncor, there are a number of things that have to happen and get resolved, whether it's the regulatory environment, the carbon emissions, regulations, things like that have to occur to allow these projects to proceed. So I think that's the first thing that really has to get resolved, and we're spending a lot of time working in that area. I'd say the other thing is, we, as an industry, really have to come together and partner on some of these opportunities. I think you're seeing a lot of that happening now. I think you need to see more of that going forward. So I think there's great opportunities, but there's still work to be done.

Operator

The next question comes from Linda Ezergailis with TD Securities.

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Linda Ezergailis
Research Analyst

Just a follow-up question on your partnership with Suncor, Is it possible to provide realizing that there may be a very large range? What the bookends of the size of the investment might be not just as a function of the project itself, but also maybe what, depending on what level of ownership range you would consider, whether it be solely with Suncor or potentially bringing other partners in including potentially the government? Can you talk about what might be possible in terms of magnitude? That would be very helpful.

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Robert J. Myles

Sure, Linda. I'll take that. Bob here. I think you hit exactly on the points that we're pursuing within industry right now. And this project we announced with Suncor is a multibillion-dollar project. But we're already having discussions with other priorities around how we can combine it with other initiatives that are being pursued in the industry. And that, to me, is very encouraging that we're working together. I can't tell you that we have anything fully defined as of yet, but discussions are occurring as we speak.

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Linda Ezergailis
Research Analyst

And just to understand the time line of milestones, recognizing that it would be great if you could get FID by 2024. When might we see certain milestones have to be met in order to achieve that time line? And if you could give us any sense of what you think might be possible in terms of getting regulatory certainty from the governments. For example, when might you need to potentially lock in those commercial attributes even just conceptually in order to reach that realizing there's a lot of complexity in the various work streams? Any sort of understanding of how this might progress would be very helpful?

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Robert J. Myles

Yes, Linda, we have a very detailed plan for this project. But you're absolutely correct as 2024 is when we set -- beginning 2024 for when we need to have our final investment decision. And that's just to allow us sufficient time to have construction completed by the end of 2027. That's the time line we have. And so I do think it's achievable. But from now to 2024, we've got a very detailed plan of things that have to happen. We're working with other parties. Going back to your first question, one of the challenges around trying to involve too many parties in a project is we have to lock down the project and the design in order for us to hit our 2027 construction date. So that's one of the challenges we have. We've had a lot of great discussions with governments. I think there's a lot of support. Obviously, the election that we had federally kind of put things a little bit on hold until the outcome of that happened, but discussions are already happening again with government. So I'm encouraged that we're going to be able to do that. But we have decision points. It's not just waiting until 2024. There's things that are happening throughout that process that we want to be able to determine before we proceed. So hopefully, that helps, Linda.

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Linda Ezergailis
Research Analyst

Yes. It gives us some better understanding. And as a follow-up question, more broad beyond that specific project. I'm wondering how you might think of accelerating potentially your energy transition journey by considering acquisitions, whether it be to acquire certain capabilities and certain new technologies or geographies or just outright achieving scale? And I guess it's a bit of a allude to an earlier question around a business long term what might be possible.

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Robert J. Myles

Linda, Bob here again. I agree that that's something we're definitely evaluating as acquisitions. I would say, just though with regards to technology, we are really agnostic on technology. We want to be open-minded to all different technologies. And whatever the best technology is we'll pursue it. Even if you take a look at our project with Suncor, we're very willing to look at different technologies as long as it's providing clean hydrogen at the end of the day. So -- but with regards to advancing our energy transition strategy, we are considering acquisitions in that process as well.

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Linda Ezergailis
Research Analyst

Any sort of guardrails around what might be possible in terms of scale or risk attributes?

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Maybe I'll take that one, Linda. In terms of scale, in addition to pursuing organic growth, I think opportunistic M&A is helpful. I think for scale, we want to make sure it's balanced with our overall portfolio of investments. So I don't know if it can give you a lot of guidance on that. I don't think we would be looking at large acquisition. It would have to be something very strategic, but we think there's a lot of bite-sized M&A out there that could be very supportive for our strategy.

Operator

The next question comes from Mark Jarvi with CIBC Capital Markets.

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Mark Thomas Jarvi
Director of Institutional Equity Research

Maybe let's continue on with the clean energy initiatives. So we talked about the acquisitions the ongoing efforts in Alberta. Just updated views in terms of organic growth opportunity in clean energy, whether it's renewables, RNG outside of Canada, whether it's Australia or the U.S. or Latin America, Like is that something we should be anticipating there will be more announcements in coming quarters? Or is that something you feel like it's going to take a while to sort of bring about?

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Maybe I'll start off and I'll turn it over to Bob. But yes, we are looking at other jurisdictions. But with that, we want to be very focused. We don't want to spread ourselves too broad and really focus on those markets that we see value and support of regulatory and government support. So maybe with that, Bob, any further to add?

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Robert J. Myles

Sure, Mark. I agree totally with what Brian just said. We really need to stay focused, but we're spending a lot of time right now, not only looking at come on to call it our own backyard here in Canada, but also in Chile and in Australia. So a lot of efforts are going into evaluating our energy transition in the areas of clean fuels and renewables in both of those jurisdictions.

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Mark Thomas Jarvi
Director of Institutional Equity Research

Got it. And then maybe just a more detailed question on the Australian distribution utility. You highlighted a couple of factors that drove the year-over-year results. Can you kind of split that apart in terms of inflation adjuster impacts versus sort of volume unfavorable weather? And then maybe just broadly, how you're seeing that business evolve? Like it seem it's slowing a little bit, but now just curious on connections and growth outlook for that business on top of ROE potential?

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Yes. Certainly, I could do that. And I think we referenced that in our second quarter call where we saw the, I guess, positive development on, I guess, return to more stable levels of CPI and -- for Australia. And just for information, every 10 basis points translates to about $1 million. And I think year-to-date, I think we're up about $6 million related to the kind of the positive CPI development. And the rest of the earnings increase is really driven by that low growth. Yes. And we are seeing very favorable growth in demand for gas in Australia. I think beyond that, I think we're going to continue to see, hopefully, continued gas growth in terms of demand. We have an access arrangement that's coming up in a couple of years that we'll have to pay attention to including a cost of capital review. And that's a lot of part of our business right now is going to be focusing on getting prepared for that next access arrangement.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Andrew Kuske with Credit Suisse.

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Andrew M. Kuske

I know it's a small part of the business, but it's a big opportunity and you've got an interesting position in both Australia and Canada on the hydrogen side. And so maybe you could just give us a bit of perspective on the framework positioning that both of the countries have, and maybe this applies to both baseball and cricket. So what inning do you believe each country is in for development of hydrogen strategies? And really, how does that translate through to see you at the end?

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Robert J. Myles

Andrew, Bob here. That's a very interesting question. I have to think about it. But I would say that Australia has been pursuing the -- and I'm going to use the renewable generation. I know that wasn't your question, but I'm going to start with that because they've been pursuing renewable generation much longer than we have in Canada. And with that comes clean hydrogen in the form of green hydrogen. And so they've -- I'd say they're probably more -- they've been looking at this longer than Canada has. But I would say from what I'm seeing is Canada is going a lot faster than Australia is right now. So part of me feels that we're actually pulling ahead in Canada. Also spending a lot of time looking at different export opportunities for hydrogen, for ammonia and looking at Southeast Asia. And if you're not to get into the weeds on this, but when you look at Australia, it's definitely closer to Southeast Asia. But there's incredible amounts of interest from Southeast Asia into the Canada hydrogen market right now. And I think a lot of it is because of the pace at which we're developing hydrogen projects here in Canada. So I'd like to think that going back to your baseball -- I'll use baseball, not cricket, but use your baseball analogy, I'd say that Canada is probably getting into the later parts of the game. And I'd still say Australia is still early on with regards to larger projects. Hopefully, that helps.

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Andrew M. Kuske

That does. That's very helpful context. And then the follow-up is really to Brian. And from a top of the house view, when you think of some of these energy transition business opportunities that exist, generally, from a market standpoint, they garner a higher multiple. So how do you think about just this dynamic of these businesses, providing incremental growth where growth hasn't really been there in the last few years from a top-of-the-house perspective to the same degree as it was in the past? But it also has higher multiple growth. So I guess, how do you think about just capital being allocated to these businesses in that kind of context?

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Brian P. Shkrobot
Executive VP & CFO

Yes. No, great question. And I agree with you that we do see these opportunities attracting higher multiples. And I think foundationally, we keep house clean in terms of we have a very strong, stable and foundational business and the utilities that drive good returns and cash flows that give us the opportunity to invest in this energy transition. And as Bob alluded to, again, I think there's ample opportunities. We're going to stay very focused and make sure that we approach these opportunities with the balance. And when we look to contract some of the production that we have a right balance of long contracted offtakes and really see us conserving cash but have decent growth in our utility business, but really put that growth into these energy transition. And again, I think there's ample opportunity there. And I suggest very similar to what you see it. I think there's, it drives higher multiples down the road. And I think there's great opportunities in front of us for Canadian Utilities.

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Colin Jackson for any closing remarks.

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Colin R. Jackson

Thank you, operator, and thank you all for participating today. We appreciate your interest in Canadian Utilities, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon. I will turn it back to the operator.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.